“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*
A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.
The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.
He needed something for show and tell before applesauce and naptime.
Yeah it was his kid's "career fair" day at school so he wanted something representative to show to the class
What? No still beating heart? That is seriously low effort parenting.
Yep, and he didn't even drop his phone doing it.
And this guy apparently does fire arms training. God help anyone getting lessons from this ass hat at the range.
It’s weird that they’d release it.
Her last words were something like “I’m not mad” and his were “fucking bitch”.
I think these people are so far down the rabbit hole that they don't even realize that their narrative is bullshit. Nobody in the Administration looked at that video and said "shit, we have a problem" because they're all True Believers and think they are right about everything.
Some people need an enemy or they can't make sense of the world. I'm not talking about a run of the mill competitive streak, they simply can't understand society as anything other than a struggle for dominance. If they don't have some sort of conflict to focus on, they make one just to quiet the cognitive dissonance they're feeling.
I don't know if it's learned or innate, but it makes people easy fodder for conspiracy theories and the sort of high-functioning sociopaths we've been electing recently.
Or course they don't. The only consistency in their narrative is their incessant need to be right. They say she tried to run ICE over, you show that's not true. They pivot to she shouldn't have been running away from the scene of the crime. You tell them there was no crime, they pivot to ICE had a right to detain her. Tell them ICE actually has no right to detain citizens they'll say how they don't actually know the law, they can only give their opinion and then loop back around to "she tried to run them over" so she's in the wrong.
They're not interested in getting to the truth, they're only interested in being right. Since they only care about being right they also don't care about being internally consistent. They will accept whatever contradictory bullshit as long as it means they're right.
And bots, and Russians.
They're only allowing their flaired bots to post in that thread. But I have no doubt magat trash see what they want to see.
They're literally in a death cult.
Yes, they are 'true believers', if you wanna phrase it that way.
Thats... how fascism works, you make up what functionally constitutes a religion, based on mythic narratives revolving around blood and soil, which mentally place the adherent into the role of a religious extremist, fighting for their perverted idea of 'justice'.
I saw a video recently covering the proliferation of body cam YouTube. A side-conclusion was that in most of the most viral "Karen does xyz," the "Karen" is a racist conservative that voted for Trump, sometimes they even inform the officers of their voting choices. A person like that freaks out because the system they voted for is affecting them, when they thought it affect the "bad people," of which they, of course, aren't. They're good, they don't have a previous criminal record, unlike those "other [colored] people." Some of them even said that part out loud.
It was obviously said better in the video, but it made a lot of sense to me, and it makes even more sense when we see these peoples' role models doing the exact same thing; insisting they're right when they clearly are not.
These morons think this proves they’re right. Vance retweeted the video as said this
"Watch this, as hard as it is," Vance wrote. "Many of you have been told this law enforcement officer wasn't hit by a car, wasn't being harassed, and murdered an innocent woman. The reality is that his life was endangered and he fired in self defense."
I've never wanted to punch someone square in the face quite as much as Vance while watching his press conference. The level of disingeniuty and vileness from these people is somehow still shocking, and I didnt think I could be surprised by how low they could go anymore
Yup, they don't even see the same reality we do. As if his camera shaking was proof he was in danger.
It's not hard for them to see the actual explanation, but they have no interest in finding it. Maybe it was shaking because he moved slightly out of the way (which the other video clearly shows) he was firing his gun? No? Right-wing Twitter just wants to feel right and not think too hard about it? Okay.
I grew up in a family full of cops and as a kid / teenager I was taken around on ridealongs in the 80s / 90s with family members. I’d be shocked if that’s kosher now, but I’m glad it was something I got to experience back in the day.
I will never forget watching cops just get out of the way and let a person of interest or suspect drive off. They’d do that, and like clockwork, say “no one outruns Motorola.” (Motorola was the wireless giant at the time.) It wasn’t worth putting lives at risk when you could just knock on that person’s door at a later date.
This guy wasn’t doing anything by the book. He was escalating, approaching a moving vehicle, he had his firearm in hand, etc. People are literally trained NOT to do everything this guy did. It puts everyone at risk. The officer, the driver, bystanders, etc.
I wish his last words were that.
They think this is a definitive proof that she tried to kill him. They're saying this is body cam footage and that him putting his phone down to grab his gun was him getting hit. They've already forgotten every other video out there.
What's absolutely bonkers is the DHS went out and immediately called her a domestic terrorist. Our tax dollars paid to kill her and post propaganda on x defaming her.
If you’re a Democrat your car immediately becomes a lethal weapon are you must be stopped by any means necessary - if the pedestrian is a Republican.
If you’re a Republican you may use your vehicle to kill any Democrat under any circumstances.
There’s no attempt to reconcile these two conflicting opinions…from a knuckle dragging Fox viewer to SCOTUS.
They had to immediately make that call.
Anyone with even an ounce of brain matter sees the true story, but the Trump camp needed to quickly twist the facts to keep the MAGAts on their side and slathering at the mouth.
This murder is 1000x worse, but the narrative is exactly the same as the 'immigrants are eating people's pets' bullshit.
All 100% untrue, but the Trump people will continue to lie, double-down and shout their version of the story at every possible moment to drown out the real truth. Which is, they are full of shit, and they know they are full of shit, but they can't risk showing even the slightest crack in their hold on power, as warped as it is.
I did see physical contact in another video.
It looks like the corner of the car is up against him, but he put himself there and she was clearly turning away from him. Then he just pushes himself off the car as she is turning and shoots her.
Nope. It looks like it, but another angle shows it never got anywhere near him, and his first shot was after jumping back, anyway. And also, this video shows him approaching AS IT'S MOVING.
I'm not disagreeing with him putting himself on that position. I am not defending this murderer at all, but I don't think it is helpful to claim there was no contact when there clearly was.
I've seen three videos now and the other two both appear to show contact. Those are the view from above and in front, down the street. It's quite poor quality but seems to show the killer against the car as it moves away; and the view from behind, which is better quality but a worse angle. It also looks like he was touching the car/contacted by it as it moves off.
Her wife, Becca Good, stands nearby, recording as well.
Her wife WATCHED HER GET MURDERED by Jonathan Ross? What a blood curdling nightmare.
Could happen to anyone of us. If ICE agents don't start taking bullets to the face soon, then that probability increases exponentially over the next few months.
Ice shooting people is already becoming more common. They're escalating because there has been no consequences.
I don't think untrained violent people will respond less violently when the likelihood of violence against them increases. I would say y'all need to build barricades to safeguard neighborhoods, you need masses that can only be mowed down, and need to avoid being easily singled out. Using the car you are sitting in as a barricade is incredibly dangerous because there is a track record of using vehicles as weapons.
It just gets worse the more videos and angles you see.
I hope Jonathan Ross’s family watches as the state executes him for premeditated murder.
You have a lot of faith in this so called justice system
We don't have a justice system in America, we have a legal system, and it will be used against you.
Yep exactly, won't be used against cops or ice
Why is an ICE agent filming with a cell phone?
For the fans.
He wanted a memento of his first premeditated murder.
Very unlikely to have been his first. Spent time deployed in Iraq, and had quite the composure, to keep the cellphone in hand as he murdered her. Especially considering he was injured last year in a similar scenario.
Desperate for some "owning the libs" footage
Dr Phil and his crew can't come to them all
They have these for facial recognition I think?
Based on a recent stint in court, all the officers I saw had both a body cam that recorded AND a cell phone in a front facing pocket that could also be used to record.
Body cam would be something you could subpoena easier. Phone would be his personal property and he can upload that video anywhere he wants and give it to whomever he wants. Consider we have this video because he sent it to an conservative media outlet trying to get sympathy. We have this video because he's a fucking moron.
Here's a link with all the videos synced: https://bsky.app/...
Crazy in the bottom video labeled CNN, you can see him walk in front of the car AFTER it started moving.
Most people wouldn’t jump in front of a chef chopping with a knife then kill the chef for stabbing them. Idk why ICE thinks it’s a good idea to jump in front of a moving car.
pre-trump, who knows if they've secretly changed the policies since then. But then again, the murderer was working for ICE when that policy was enacted.
Deliberate. A report by experts studied incidents from Jan 2010 to Oct 2012 and found US Border Patrol agents stepped in front of vehicles 67 times to justify shooting drivers. Results were 19 deaths.
Jonathan Ross worked for US Border Patrol from 2005 until 2015.
Crazy in the bottom video labeled CNN, you can see him walk in front of the car AFTER it started moving.
That's the point. This was a manufactured killing. By stepping front of the car, he can deploy the South Park Defense: "She was coming right at me!"
In her rationalization speech, The Puppy Killer mentioned how blocking ICE cars was an increasing strategy. What she didn't say was that it's been effective at slowing them down, and giving targets a longer head start to escape.
It's clearly pissing her off. Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller is demanding 3000 scalps per day, and they aren't even close. Shes probably getting her ass reamed by PeeWee every fucking day.
We're going to find out that orders came down to make an example out of one of the blockers, and this was the opportunity. This guy wasn't new and poorly trained, he was a veteran officer with a beef against fleeing vehicles (he'd been recently injured in a vehicle incident because he behaved poorly and impulsively in that incident, too). He was exactly the kind of trusted operative that you could give an order like that to, and know it will be followed.
Pakled Holman seemed surprised by this, so it probably wasn't him. The order almost certainly originated with The Puppy Killer, but she was probably told by PeeWee to do something decisive.
....so does this one.
It’s clear the only reason she backed up was to AVOID him. If she wanted him dead he would’ve been toast.
Bellingcat does great work.
Even if there was 4k 360° video of Renee being murdered by this scum the Trump administration would still side with the murderer.
An incident like this is great for MAGA. This is how you find who is truly loyal. The loyal ones will back your cockamamie story to the hilt, and parrot it loudly, often, and with conviction, no matter how indefensible it is.
This separates out those who still have some vestige of morals that can still be reached by an atrocity. Those people are untrustworthy, and must be purged. They want people who will cheer when they massacre peaceful protesters.
Exactly right. I work with a bunch of ride or die maga dick riders and it’s been interesting seeing them over the last year. When the Epstein cover up started last year they all got really quiet and stopped talking about Trump for a good part of the summer and ends of the year. Then he bombed Venezuela and then Renee getting murdered has got them all foaming at the mouth for violence and killing now.
"FUCK YEAH! THIS is what I signed up for!"
That’s pretty much what they said the day after the Venezuela attack. Another thing they like to say now is how we are all gonna be rich because of the cheap gas prices.
Then you should ask them about Taco's best friend Epstein at every opportunity.
I have from time to time and they all say the same thing. “It’s all fake and a democrat hoax!” They are perfectly brainwashed cult members.
This guy doesn't belong in jail, he belongs on the gallows
I want him destroyed.
Oh, certainly. All of them. But especially him.
Oh I can’t wait for those Big Mac’s to do him in. At least his farewell will be slow and miserable.
This is pointless. Even if she was aggressive and tried to kill this man, she'd be right to. This should not be able whether this Nazi felt in danger, they should feel threatened when they attack communities or random people. This video shows that peace is not an option with them. Consequences for chuds reduces their numbers significantly, they scatter when they realize they could actually get hurt.
they should feel threatened when they attack communities or random people
i am sure this part has been taken care of, not really sure it is good news though
That this man felt there would be no consequences for murdering a person in front of a crowd is overwhelming proof that they do not feel threatened. They understood that they could commit violence, not the crowd.
Not surprising that the evidence contradicts the administration’s claims, because they constantly lie.
And even that didn't work. Maybe they weren't afraid enough to live
The term "hate" can be misleading. When used in a hate crime law, the word "hate" does not mean rage, anger, or general dislike. In this context “hate” means bias against people or groups with specific characteristics that are defined by the law.
At the federal level, hate crime laws include crimes committed on the basis of the victim’s perceived or actual race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
Most state hate crime laws include crimes committed on the basis of race, color, and religion; many also include crimes committed on the basis of sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, and disability.
Say it with me: ICE officer Jonathan Ross and his accomplices are guilty of at least murder and hate crimes, and possibly more.
the US or perhaps the world needs a reboot button
Nuke everywhere from space.
Anarcho-Posadist praxis
The Red Coats should march back in and press reset.
The shitbag Ross reacted like a Gestapo or NKVD thug.
It's a template. In the future, your list will include ICE Agent.
That video is tainted. No custody of evidence. The shooter had 48 hours to edit the video.
Sync up the video /audio to thwle dozen others and see if things line up? How much time was removed from the phone?
If the video conveniently "proved" his claims of self defense, you'd have a point. But it clearly doesn't. It shows he murdered her and his claims of self defense are a blatant lie. You're literally arguing "well maybe it was self defense because the video could have been edited by the PERPETRATOR to not show it was self defense". Like wtf?! You're arguing that the dude purposely edited the video to make himself look worse.
Pro-ICE voices (not necessarily people) think that the video supports the white house claims. The leaked site is right wing, and Vance shared it saying people should watch it.
It's crazy that this video seems to be such a Rorschach test.
Im not saying the video proves innocence. It can be manipulated and still not help the officer. The fact is ICe/magazine arent the smartest people and I would challenge that video on the basis of custody alone.
And again, arguing custody would be arguing AGAINST the shooter. AT BEST, it would get the video thrown out and then we'd just look at the 4 other videos that all show the exact same thing. It literally doesn't help, at all. It literally only would add a charge of tampering with evidence.
It still could be used as a argument by the right in that way.
And it would be a dumb fucking argument considering the 3-4 other videos that all corroborate this one. Stop being retarded and proposing half-assed "what-ifs". Besides the fact that him editing it would be tampering with evidence and IS ITS OWN CRIME. Yeah, he's just gonna admit to illegally tampering with the video to make himself look worse to create reasonable doubt..... when other videos clearly show the incident as well. Ffs, I know these people are morons but you're taking the cake.
I believe it was her way of saying they weren't there protesting them.
He was going to check her plates.
Regardless of if that led to anything, it's an intimidation factor due to the belief law enforcement can then not only get all your info, but they can be on the lookout for you on plate scanners.
It does look like they were there intentionally though, so I do understand why Republicans think it's proves them right. To them anything besides she had just pulled out of her own driveway would be justification.
Everyone else tho, don't think peaceful protesting should deserve an immediate death sentence
Yeah if I were in her shoes I'd save the footage for court. Don't want the court of public opinion influencing jurors ahead of time.
That is of course assuming he gets charged as he should.
Where's the full video
In the article as a link to Twitter, which I have blocked at DNS level, so I also hope someone posts the actual video here
Edit: https://nitter.net/...
Ask and ye shall receive
Note that he checks the stickers on her car to confirm political affiliation before he murders her.
It is SO fucking crazy to me after reading the comments on this video and others about the incident on x, how people all watch exactly the same clips and are able to arrive at polar opposite conclusions.
Both sides seem to have their narratives vindicated at the same time. I think that such a crazy thing.
That is not good video to show the whole picture, it cuts out the crucial part, better shown in the video filmed from the back of the car.
This is the one right wants you to see, because it doesn't show that she wasn't the aggressor.
This shows all https://bsky.app/...
Say the words. He called her a "Fucking bitch". Stop fucking censoring language, especially over something like this. If the words offend you, GOOD. You should be fucking offended. (I know OP just reposted the articles censoring - this is directed at the article more than OP)
No it doesn't. - MAGA
Yeah... All the responses to that Twitter post were in defense of ICE... Incredible.
She had been this for years. years!!! -MAGAcucks
We don't need MORE proof. Insinuating we need any more proof gives a veneer of validity to the suggestion there is any doubt at all. This is typical right wing "inundate with bullshit" that leaves anyone with a shred of hope of having an honest discussion constantly scrambling to offer more and more proof while the fact is that the Right DO NOT CARE. They're here to "win"; honesty, morals, truth, reality be damned.
First, have you ever flown one of those, or do you think you're getting 247 automated drone overwatch with 50 dollars? How do you think they're controlled?
Secondly, no, my country doesn't fucking do that. Maybe assume a bit less.
First, have you ever flown one of those, or do you think you're getting 247 automated drone overwatch with 50 dollars? How do you think they're controlled?
There are many ways to get a drone to fly autonomously over a short mission. You may want to figure it out considering where your country is headed. In my country we're forced to start thinking about it, because you guys may not fix your shit (and your defeatist attitude is contributing to that). Trump is planning an invasion of Mexico and Greenland. You need to catch up.
Secondly, no, my country doesn't fucking do that. Maybe assume a bit less.
Your country is not what you think it is. The good Americans who want to stop it from becoming a fascist imperialist monster have not figured out or accepted what they need to do to get there. If you're one of them I suggest you may want to rethink what your country is. You're assuming too much about the legal and democratic systems remaining. You're assuming the military won't just follow orders, and you're assuming the media and the cultists won't just fall into lockstep. You need to fundamentally re-evaluate, and quickly.
Someone linked elsewhere, it's odd but there is an actual T-rex statue there stomping a car, an art piece in the neighborhood.
I was confused about the reflection when the camera was frozen and pointing at the license plate but the reflection showed the murderer walking, but I've been told I was wrong about most the other stuff so that's probably wrong too.
You should refrain from posting opinions that are THIS unqualified.
To be clear, I am giving you a LOT of credit by assuming that you are just stupid and not an active fascist apologist trying to sow doubt about an obviously genuine video.
You are a shill that picked a frame in which the stickers are hard to see and acted like they are not in the new video when they plainly are. You are fabricating evidence to push an agenda.
Are you posting this to prove that your earlier comment was incorrect because we can all see that its the same car, or do you see something else here?
Th T-Rex appears in many other videos. I think the walking person is the wife, the angles seem to match, and if you look the the back window just above the moving legs you can see her face. I don't see anything wrong with the windows on the houses.
Lol are you saying you wouldn't have called her any names? Also, how do we know that was him talking? There were other officers around. IMO both parties made big mistakes. It all seems a bit contrived, but isn't that the point?
Yeah if I shot someone in the face I'd probably feel bad and not call them a bitch, even if it was a nazi bootlicker defending this murderer.
Interesting. Do you think he knew immediately he had killed her? He seemed to call her a bitch(if it was him speaking) as she was driving off, before she hit the parked cars. Also, did the wife outside the car yell "drive, baby, drive" because she was afraid? The guy who shot her was walking around the car, but he didn't draw his gun until he got in front and she started to hit the gas. They all had clear police markings on their uniforms, but what was the correct response from her in that situation(genuine question)?
Interesting, the video shows her backing up and then cutting the wheel HARD RIGHT, AWAY from the agent who EASILY SIDESTEPPED, and that is when he shot her point blank in the face with at least 2 rounds, and watched her slump over the wheel as the car accelerated straight into a post, all while spitting out "fuckin' bitch" like he just fucking SHOWED HER.
It's disgusting to see how many sociopaths like you exist in this world.
I agree there are a lot of sociopaths out there, but do you know what that word means? I'm asking some questions to get more people's viewpoints on this because clearly a bunch of people don't see it the way I do, which is confusing to me. Does that reaaaally make me a sociopath?
True. He definitely fired and he was at close range, but I've shot a 9mm at a target from close range too. Normally it doesn't explode, so I have to take just a second to find the hole. His shot went through a window, cracking it and further obscuring the driver. Is it possible he didn't know he had absolutely killed her or is that just crazy talk?
He drew the gun before walking in front of the car. Why are you lying? What else do you lie about?
Idk I guess my eyes have an AI filter on them. Can't seem to see his hand doing the physical motion of drawing the gun until after he's standing in front of the car. Crazy. They also just released another angle showing she definitely tried to block traffic and sat there honking for a while before she was approached, so your arguments aren't aging very well. No worries tho. I unsubscribed from the news part of Lemmy. You can have it 😁
Yep, I really don't like it, but it's not as clear cut as people think it is. Let the courts go through all the evidence and have them assess it.
I agree and that's probably exactly what's going to happen. I'm honestly, genuinely just confused how half of the nation sees one thing and the other half sees the exact opposite in the same exact clips. Both halves would be willing to die on that hill(and a civil war would do exactly that). Is it mass manipulation or is half the nation just lying? The whole scenario is just unreal and no one seems to know(or care) exactly why.
Ya know, this might get buried, but I'll say it anyways. I'm almost 40 and I've seen a few things, but I'm not so much upset as just confused. How can everyone in this country watch the same video and half of them say it's definitely one way while the other half say it's definitely the other way? That's happened more than once in the past few years, which is why I say it seems contrived. I'm not a republican or a democrat. I think both sides are up to their ears in corruption. Does that make me a loser? Can we have an actual conversation? I'll refrain from sarcasm and name calling if you will.
What mistake was made by the victim?
From what I see in the footage(the far-away angle), she dropped someone off(presumably her child) and just parked sideways in the street for a while, blocking most of it, which isn't wise if ICE just happens to be on that same street and needs to use it, even if you don't agree with them. When approached by officers, regardless of whether they were 100% following proper procedure, most people would just turn the car off and comply, choosing to fight it in court later and win one of the many successful lawsuits other civilians have won in the past. Instead, after watching him walk around her vehicle filming, she chose to listen to her wife, who yelled "drive, baby, drive" and hit the gas. Whether she was a victim or a criminal, that was foolish because she clearly did it before he pulled his gun(obviously the conservative crowd would argue that was what made him do it, but who really knows).
For the record, I'm not defending the guy who shot her either. Even if the first shot he fired was justified, the 2nd and 3rd shots were not.
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