That sounds tempting, but still won't make me rejoin reddit.

fitting translation for "meta"

When I read "log factory" I was thinking of Splunk or something similar. I'm tired.

I'm totally with you, I would also add that recently meta said that they wanted to add facial recognition to their "smart" glasses.

they said that "We will launch during a dynamic political environment where many civil society groups that we would expect to attack us would have their resources focused on other concerns"

Source:

https://techcrunch.com/...

https://www.businessinsider.com/...

They flooded it with bots, what do you mean?

I think like Bitcoins creation hardwares technological advancement made it inevitable. Google made the tech, basic AI research, which became modern AI when they threw more compute at it.

It's funny how they don't show you the comment.

I just got permabanned within a minute or so of posting something like "The only way to get Trump out of office is for 100,000 people to drag him out.". Appeal denied even though I said it was hyperbole.

I still like the sheer volume of content on Reddit but they are getting worse all the time.

You have a link to this administrator of Reddit being in contact with Maxwell? Inquiring minds want to know

Yeah... I had a 3 year account had been suspended a couple times for "suspensious activity" which I chalked up to my use of a VPN, multiple OSs, and still browsing mobile with RIF and revanced. Normally I just had to change my PW and refresh RIF but this last time when I did that I kept getting a login error no matter how many times I reset it. Turns out even though it still knee was email to send the requests too the account was like fully nuked. Everything is just gone.

Name one way

Yup. Conspiracy theories aside, the bot problem is an actual hard problem to solve.

we have tools like defederating any instance filled with bots but we definitely need more

my little hometown somehow had a subreddit. i don't know how

The good news is that if the fediverse gets an influx of Redditors, maybe we'll see some of those niches pop up here too. Reddit's impending identity theft coupled with the insane enforcement of rule 1 they've been doing lately is what got me to make my account here.

I miss r/fitness. It was big enough but good enough to learn a lot and get motivation.

I miss the TV episode discussions. Even if I wasn't following live, I could go read the thread and feel the shared excitement and read the theories and there was always something I hadn't noticed that someone else had.

I miss those the most.

Same style of stuff I miss. Mainly instrument related subreddits, books, and boutique blu-rays. However I don’t miss Reddit itself at all. Especially with how right wing brain rot it became. It felt like hanging out in a Facebook comments section.

Honestly I'm from the time where there used to be forums for these things and I liked forums just fine.

Same. I think it we moved back to forums the internet experience would improve

Similar vein to forbidden snacks was don't put your dick in that. Yeah I miss the niche subs too, don't miss the rest of the bullshit tho.

E. Ask historians was also high grade.

Exactly. For me it was Cats (all animals, really) and Guitars.

Political discussions are far better on Lemmy.

In my infant span of figuring out how to get on here, there are some charms here like foodporn being on the main server, and shittyfoodporn being exclusively on the Canadian one.

I wish there was a more active general gaming community here. I just migrated over from reddit, and haven't found one that isn't a ghost town.

Blorp dev here. Let me know if there is anything I can do to make the app even better for you!

Replace with their own bots and paying customers' bots.

Lmao hopefully

Websites should copy VKontakte and make the user line-up several words in Cyrillic. It's the hardest one I've ever had to pass, it has to be exactly in the right place 😂

Like a sliding puzzle from Hell.

Or Cloudflare.

I think there was a big shift for reddit in 2016 after they bought (and then shut down..) AlienBlue and then launch their official app. That moment it felt like when the number of users just exploded, but with that, the quality of posts (and average age of the user) dropped.

Lemmy/the fediverse reminds me of 2010-2015 reddit (which is a good thing!)

I use user tags pretty heavily, and it is amazing how small Lemmy truly is. I recognize a lot of individual users, and the tag even links back ti whatever post/comment I originally used to tag them.

Guy, never forget that internet was built for porn and sarcasm, later renamed trolling, and you're supposed to have higher than room temperature IQ to be here and properly enjoy it.

They already ban anybody they wish without recourse or actionable means to challenge them.

-Reddit Refuge banned for life for being critical of the fascist state of Israel.

Just to be clear... you think that the thing they've been actively doing for years, without any indication that there's any motivation to change, is why they're changing policy? 🤔 let's just say I'm not convinced

I don't think they give a shit about bots, as it inflates their traffic numbers and gives the illusion of a more robust user base. This is about gathering your data. They want to know who you are for marketing and other purposes.

Lol, no. That would hurt their stock price

I've been thinking of creating a new account through Tor, so that I could reconnect with my former communities who are still active there since

Don’t create an account, use (or host) a Redlib instance, subscribe to your favourite subreddits and then bookmark it afterwards, that’s what I do.

Let’s go! We can all make Lemmy better.

Can't forget /r/worldnews which is literally just an israeli bot farm

They are not actually going to touch these bots. You are just clueless if you think they will remove their own propaganda tools.

"Am I The Asshole for doing what I want with my own life?"

99.99% of posts in that sub

Usually when people leave reddit, many communists do come and find a much better place here. I think it's good that we have a lot of left wing people here, and have little tolerance for right-wing and pro-imperialist views.

Do you prefer hanging out with the reactionaries?

Every time this happens we gain new comrades while filtering out the worst of the insufferable reddit stereotypes to the reddit instances, thus keeping the rest of the fediverse clean. We are like mussel colonies filtering out fedora behavior. You're welcome.

People who are "scared off" by leftwing politics are probably happier elsewhere anyway

Do you really think they will out their own astroturfing interests? They will only tell u who is a bit if they didn't want them in the site, not if they paid to be there !

I profoundly apologize to the stupid community who are not using reddit.

apology accepted

I wouldn't say users are stupid to still be using Reddit. There's still alot more activity there and alot of subs still haven't switched over yet. But if they start requiring identity verification, I think we'll see alot more switching. Right now, I do both to get the best of both worlds. If I have to give them my identity, they get cut out.

Sounds like a statement to say they have a hard-on-bots policy, but in practice it seems they won't care unless there's significant outcry against a particular account.

Do you mean Anubis?

That uses POW which wastes time and CPU, however it does essentially nothing to stop bots, it just makes them slower.

You need to detect the fingerprints of things like Selenium and Multilogin as well as the fingerprint of the whole browser or device to truly stop them.

Lol for those who missed it, the Digg reboot actually failed and shut down, and now they’re planning to reboot it again, this time repositioning it as “Digg for AI agents.”

I was scrolling down to find the obligatory “Fuck Spez” comments but got disappointed. Probably moderated heavily.

They're selectively asking for verification to do it. That's mixed, because:

• They'll only ask to verify "suspicious" accounts. So all the bots that "behave" are going to stay, which is what the bots will now optimize for.

• Verification will become another form of selective enforcement. Say the wrong then, and you get either verify or get banned.

• As for the methods, see for yourself:

When confirming that there is a human behind an account, we prefer third-party tools that keep a distance between verification and Reddit itself. Any system we use will not expose your real-world identity to Reddit nor your Reddit username or activity to any third party. There are a handful of ways to do this, and I’m sure there will be more. Each have their tradeoffs:

• Passkeys (which are well supported by Apple, Google, YubiKey, and various password managers) - These are lightweight, require a human to do something, and don’t require your ID. The tradeoff is that there is no proof of individuality or anything other than “a human probably did something.” Nevertheless, it’s a great starting point.

• Third-party biometric services - For example, World ID (yes, the Orb company, though they have non-Orb solutions as well). This technology unlocks proof-of-individual without requiring your name, government ID, or a centralized database. I think the internet needs verification solutions like this, where your account information, usage data, and identity never mix.

• Third-party government ID services - In some countries, such as the UK and Australia, governments require us to use these. These are the least secure, least private, and least preferred. When we are forced to do this, we design the integrations so that we never actually see your ID information, so your Reddit data cannot be tied to you.

Draw your own conclusion.

But my take? It's the worst of everything: Only the most primitive, obvious bots get banned. "Transparent," sycophantic bots will all stay on Reddit, and get even stealthier. Rebellious human users will get hit with verification, at the whim of whatever opaque algorithm determines they're "bot-like," which is a fantastic recipe for censorship without the appearance of doing so.

And this is all if you take Spez at his word. There's a lot of history suggesting you should not.

Many more communists and linux enthusiasts.

the damage is spread much thinner across the spaces. instead of one major peice of shit, you have many fiefdomes, and only most are smaller peices of shit.

but hey! there is always the next horizon. move to a better instance when needed

Less porn. Most of it seems to be from Reddit copy bots. So I guess that's the real effect we are going to notice.

We don't need more people, we need more good content!

That's the neat part. The Fediverse doesn't eat itself; more activity on Piefed is more activity on Lemmy.

Lemmy, piefed, kbin, all valid and handy, tbh.

what's important is that people go to the fediverse, and also contribute every now and then to the devs and instance owners for hosting costs!

Piefed is here talking to you right now. It's all the same shit

Piefed does seem like a great alternative, but I'm in the "too good to be true" phase.

Yep, sometimes I think they run all those bots.

You're right in theory, but it's Spez we're talking about. I tend to consider that the following is a rational reaction to Spez preparing to take any action about anything in any context:

There is a bot problem but ID checks are invasive, and you can stop the bots with things like Hcaptcha Passive and Turnstile which use POW to waste the CPU cycles of bots and look for signs of things like Selenium and Puppeteer controlling the browser.

https://lemmy.ml/post/45007584/24779562

You have to read between the lines. This just gives them the option to label anybody they want as a “bot” with virtually no way to challenge them. They can now ban anybody they wish for posting content they don’t agree with (pro-gaza, anti-israel, anti-capitalist, etc).

Ironically the only thing that will ever work is identifying a user to a person in one form or another. Otherwise it's just a never ending arms race.

"We can't let the terrorists win!!"

You'd really hand over your government ID to Spez? Lmao

Just agitate in communist and other anti-imperialist communities on reddit, not on reddit in general, for now. The liberals usually flock to Lemmy.world anyways, leftists tend to go to left instances like Hexbear.net or Lemmygrad.ml.

Welcome! We're happy to have you here.

Hopefully they will stop shadowbans as well, or at least delay disclosure of them to waste time and proxy data of bots without confusing humans.

I'd love to but they permabanned me after 14 years for pointing out that Donald Trump is a pedophile

Then why make the announcement?

You described their normal behavior, now they've made this announcement. Something must have changed.

It actually sounds like they are allowing bots as long as a human can intervene and is willing to verify their identity if their automated activity is detected. They are embracing slop users as long as they give them their data.

I think the main reason for the announcement, though, was to deal with the rumours that everyone will need to verify their identity (which this post seems to assume is still the case).

Personally, I'd rather see reddit remain the mainstream version of this just so that people who want to run bots for whatever reason have more reason to do it there than here. Because the commercial level ones will have more resources than lemmy admins will have to deal with it.

Snowflakebotdid to be precise.

My guy. Most threads and articles here are posted by bots.

If you upload on youtube then you need a google account. Which requires a phone number on a real smartphone.

Hey. I'm high quality and I came from a permaban!

Personally offended !

Jk.

We are witnessing the death of the anonymous internet in real-time.

Fedi is still here :3

On Reddit? Apparently posts about it get nuked by mods. So of course people reposted even more.

Can you explain? I read it and didn't see anything racist.

Of course Spez won't make it sound like there's a problem. The problem is that they're slowly implementing ID verification. Soon, you'll have to provide your ID to prove you're a human. Spez's just trying to sprinkle in some "We don't want your data, we care about user privacy" BS to make the users feel safe for now. Google's doing the same thing by making it difficult to install apps from outside the Play Store.

Personally, I'd be happy to see more users, particularly in the niche groups which are often dead as a dead thing. I don't want the bots tho, and I'm thinking that gen AI has probably made the fuckers pretty plausible and hard to identify.

Do the masses not like discussing Kierkegaard?

Reddit is not going to last another 5 years.