New York real estate titan likens the phrase ‘tax the rich’ to racial slurs

2 months ago by pelespirit to c/mildlyinfuriating

Steve Roth was responding to the announcement by New York’s mayor of tax on second homes worth more than $5m

The phrase “tax the rich” can be “just as hateful as some disgusting racial slurs”, according to the New York City billionaire Steve Roth, who said that the top 1% should be “praised and thanked”.

Speaking on his company’s quarterly earnings call on Tuesday, Roth, the CEO of Vornado Realty Trust, expressed his support for fellow billionaire and the CEO of Citadel, Ken Griffin, who was singled out in the 15 April announcement by New York’s mayor, Zohran Mamdani, of the state’s first “pied-à-terre” tax on second homes valued at more than $5m. In a video, Mamdani announced the policy in front of Griffin’s penthouse, which he said was purchased for $238m.

“We are all shocked that our young mayor would pull this stunt in front of Ken’s home and single him out for ridicule,” Roth said. “This was both irresponsible and dangerous.”

Edit: Mamdani's video that sparked this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLKZnVB4F9k

shweddy 250 points 2 months ago

Bitch, taxing the rich is the humane option

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WYLD_STALLYNS 76 points 2 months ago

I get the feeling we’re getting closer to starting to spit roast them.

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SharkWeek 21 points 2 months ago

Eww. Nobody want to put their dick in that, surely?

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WYLD_STALLYNS 19 points 2 months ago

I actually meant it in the literal sense, but these days I’m sure there’s a few people who would. 🤮

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SharkWeek 7 points 2 months ago

I figured that out, it was just that my brain went in the other direction for the first couple of seconds :-/

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 10 points 2 months ago

my dude it's been like 500, 600 years. there are better ways to get things doner

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toiletobserver 28 points 2 months ago

I'd be willing to accept the... Alternative

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BarneyPiccolo 11 points 2 months ago

Yeah, heading towards just taking it all, and leaving them destitute, and if they don't like it, they can think about it in prison, if they're lucky to survive that long.

They enjoy their wealth at the pleasure of the Citizens, and those who don't handle their wealth responsibly, will have it removed.

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Cethin 4 points 2 months ago

Leaving them destitute is much more polite than the alternative too. That basically requires them to comply, which I assume they won't. If it comes down to other actions being taken, because the systems aren't doing their job, it'll require some level of violence.

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 2 months ago

How easy or violent it has to be is entirely up to them. If they want violence, we can oblige them, but they'll still lose their money, and their family may not survive it.

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Lemmyoutofhere 9 points 2 months ago

Because of…..the implication.

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MissJinx 2 points 2 months ago

In france this would not work out

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shittydwarf 139 points 2 months ago

Guillotine the rich

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Luci 56 points 2 months ago

I’d vote for you

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Viking_Hippie 40 points 2 months ago

Shittydwarf for comptroller!

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bcgm3 2 points 2 months ago

Ooh, he's definitely not gonna like that one.

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volore 118 points 2 months ago

I feel like Mr. Roth has forgotten that being taxed is the alternative we came up with to beheadings for the upper class when they got too rich and powerful.

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SolarMonkey 16 points 2 months ago

Yeah.. tax the rich is the nicest thing we could be saying.. they’ve definitely forgotten…

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TachyonTele 91 points 2 months ago

Waaah wahh

These people are lucky. No ones eaten them yet.

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crusa187 80 points 2 months ago

Perhaps he would prefer “Eradicate the rich.”

(Through even more taxation, of course.)

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Lost_My_Mind 55 points 2 months ago

Or guillitines. Or Luigi. Look, I'm not really picky on how we make the streets flow with a river of their blood. Dealers choice really.

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oopsgodisdeadmybad 23 points 2 months ago

Yesss

I just said this in another thread but I'll repair it here.

Once no one is rich, everyone will be.

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Viking_Hippie 78 points 2 months ago

"He will learn over time that growing a tax base is a winner and raising taxes is a loser … and that the hard-working 1% are allies, not enemies.”

Translation: "we're still working on finding ways to make him do our bidding"

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skisnow 60 points 2 months ago

Just to highlight that as a real estate magnate, his entire empire is built on rent-seeking, i.e. accumulating wealth by the hoarding of a limited resource, without having created anything of value.

This billionaire did not create a billion dollars of value for society, even indirectly; he only took it from others.

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EvergreenGuru 46 points 2 months ago

“I’m afraid of the poors!”

Boys, we have them right where we want them.

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gravitas_deficiency 44 points 2 months ago

we’re gonna eat you, you rich motherfuckers

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Duamerthrax 42 points 2 months ago

He views the Rich as a separate ethnic group.

from wiki:

An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of humans who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Attributes that ethnicities believe to share include language, culture, common sets of ancestry, traditions, society, religion, history, or social treatment.

He's mostly right, but that doesn't invalidate criticisms of the Rich.

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Agent641 29 points 2 months ago

Finally, a morally and ethically acceptable group to do ethnic cleansing on!

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TachyonTele 11 points 2 months ago

I was against genocide....

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jonesey71 8 points 2 months ago

Arguably it is immoral to NOT cleanse them.

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StarryPhoenix97 21 points 2 months ago

That’s like admitting they live in a completely different world. That’s what blows my mind. By implication, he’s admitting the wealthy exist in a completely separate reality. That the shadow economy is real, and that the average person is effectively a second-class citizen. It’s an acknowledgment that it is, and maybe always has been, us versus them. I've always said they exist in a completely different world, one that operates on different rules than the rest of us. More than just the obvious. Everything you posted, culture, norms, ancestry, history. They will never change to help you. They will always operate from a place of exploitation. It's their culture. They made it so.

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SabinStargem 9 points 2 months ago

For all intents and purposes, they have become Battlefield Earth aliens or Morlocks.

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StarryPhoenix97 8 points 2 months ago

The old vampire metaphor still works too.

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edible_funk 3 points 2 months ago

Dragons.

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JcbAzPx 7 points 2 months ago

I think it's more that he views anyone not rich as not human. Only him and his rich friends are actually people and the plebeian masses should defer to them as such.

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liuther9 1 point 2 months ago

I've met some people with this mindset of "i dont give a single fuk if it is not good for me". They also tend to praise billionares and bad dictators. Makes me really curios how their brain works

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deadymouse 41 points 2 months ago

Oh, I think he'll like this inevitable outcome then.

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NihilsineNefas 39 points 2 months ago

"TAX" is going to be the softest, most palateable verb that will be done to them, the alternatives are a little less polite.

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proofchampionship184 11 points 2 months ago

“Oh, would you prefer ‘torture and execute’ then?” Lmao

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NihilsineNefas 7 points 2 months ago

My favourite phrase, or at least one that's given me a glimmer of hope for the future is "They will have to invent a new word for what the people are going to do to those responsible."

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jestho 6 points 2 months ago

Torture And eXecute

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BaraCoded 1 point 2 months ago

... "Torcute"?

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jestho 1 point 2 months ago

Needs an x to sound scary

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_haha_oh_wow_ 38 points 2 months ago

"We want you to pay your fair share of taxes to maintain the system you enjoy the benefits and protection of." = slur?

Eat all of my shit and hair, Steve Roth. You sound like a real turd of a human being.

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nonentity 35 points 2 months ago

Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

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dustyData 33 points 2 months ago

From the crowd that came up with gems as "bank accounts are citizenship", "transactions are free speech" and "attorney fees are justice". Comes the latest madness "tax is a hate crime".

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Earthman_Jim 33 points 2 months ago

"Tax the rich" is putting it very nicely.

They've dehumanized themselves with their monstrous exploitation.

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yesman 33 points 2 months ago

Tax that peckerwood until he starts singing spirituals.

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Resonosity 32 points 2 months ago

What a little pathetic bitch. Eat the rich

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finallymadeanaccount 0 points 2 months ago

Just got a weird Clayton Bigsby feel from your comment, only instead of him saying 'white power' quietly at the end of his shouting, I thought of someone ranting about the harm rich people do continually ending their bellowing with a short, fast, calm, "Eat the rich" as a contrast at the end of any sentence. For example:

"BILLIONAIRES COULD BUILD A DOZEN STRAY ANIMAL SHELTERS FOR THE COST OF ONE OF THEIR YACHTS, BUT THEY'RE TOO SELFISH! THE ONLY ANIMAL THEY CARE ABOUT ... IS THEMSELVES! Eat the rich".

"NINE DOLLARS FOR A CUP OF COFFEE?! NINE DOLLARS COULD PAY FOR A STUDENT'S BREAKFAST AND LUNCH! Eat the rich".

"OW! I STUBBED MY GODDAMN TOE! Eat the rich".

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captcha 2 points 2 months ago

The examples give a vibe of radio advertising, with a sped up text in the end telling you ‘we are not responsible for anything, terms and limitations will may apply, consult your therapist, your lawyer, your neighbour, and your dog’

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Gammelfisch 32 points 2 months ago

Bring back the tax brackets from the 1960's. That should solve the problems. Fucking Ronnie Reagan and his deregulation.

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oldwoodenship 1 point 2 months ago

Citizens United also has to go.

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Microtonal_Banana 29 points 2 months ago

"Tax the rich" is the 99% being nice. We could go the France in 1792 route.

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blindbunny 27 points 2 months ago

There's only 700 billionaires in America, and I think we should kill every single one.

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Infinite 8 points 2 months ago

Probably the married ones too.

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bridgeburner 5 points 2 months ago

I think we can make an exception for Gaben

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TheEighthDoctor 4 points 2 months ago

Eh...acceptable collateral

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Oggyb 1 point 2 months ago

Someone could tip him off ahead of time so he can donate to charitable causes down to 900 million.

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korazail 1 point 2 months ago

I hear what you're saying, but counterpoint:

I'd prefer Steam's helpdesk staff were paid more, and their janitors, and their contractors, and anyone else involved in making that business work. Gabe doesn't NEED a new yacht. Some of the people working for him do NEED healthcare.

Gabe is definitely on the not-a-monster side of the billionaire spectrum, but you don't get that much money with purely your output. You get lucky and have a good idea at the right time, inherit, or rent-seek. Two of those are stupid reasons to have immense wealth, and I don't think getting lucky is worth the vast gulf between billionaire and struggling-to-get-by.

I think if we could have a wealth cap... say 10 billion right now, an absurd sum, where it's almost impossible to even spend it all... and after you pass that amount you get fed to a wood chipper; then we would see a lot fewer billionaires and a better world.

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captain_aggravated 2 points 2 months ago

It's been entirely too long since there's been a tarring and feathering in these parts.

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Sunflier 1 point 2 months ago

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ceenote 26 points 2 months ago

A wealth tax a day keeps the guillotine away.

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Mulligrubs 26 points 2 months ago

You're the best! Thank you so much for exploiting thousands of employees and customers to acquire a stupendous fortune!

He doesn't realize that this perspective proves exactly what he thinks of his employees and customers... to him they are nothing more than a despised, but necessary, resource to exploit ruthlessly.

Also, let's remember that his tax rate is much lower than that of an Arby's employee. Hateful and disgusting indeed

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CileTheSane 25 points 2 months ago

Man with more money than he could possibly use in his life is upset at the suggestion that some portion of the money he will never used could be used to help other people.

Being a billionaire is a sign of mental illness and needs to start being treated as such.

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WiredBrain 5 points 2 months ago

Financial obesity

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9point6 25 points 2 months ago

Tax is the compromise

The French have a good historical case for what should happen if that fails

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veroxii 2 points 2 months ago

Something something cake

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grte 23 points 2 months ago

It's true. I am bigoted against the wealthy. Proudly.

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TherapyGary 7 points 2 months ago

We need actual slurs for rich people- that would be fun

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Clutter 23 points 2 months ago

Mamdani is choosing the lesser evil here my dear rich person... The other options is: we kill you.

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boogiebored 22 points 2 months ago

sure fine whatever

here’s another

kill em all

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ramble81 21 points 2 months ago

Rich is not a race. It’s not a characteristic that you’re born with.

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NABDad 29 points 2 months ago

The worst often are born with it.

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nightofmichelinstars 13 points 2 months ago

But it's a mutable attribute

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jaybone 3 points 2 months ago

I can see if we make this argument, they will then say the same thing about being poor. And then take it further to say the poor should not be a protected class and therefore should not receive extra benefits. (I know this is not what protected class typically refers to, but I can see them making these arguments.)

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4am 9 points 2 months ago

No need to hypothesize, they’ve been doing this since the New Deal

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 2 months ago

That's not a good argument, most of them ARE born into it.

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Marshezezz 21 points 2 months ago

I don’t understand why media prints stuff like this as if it’s a valid point that needs to be explored

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HAL_9_TRILLION 19 points 2 months ago

It's because parasites like this jackass are paying them to.

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silverneedle 7 points 2 months ago

Most media is spearheaded by people who own everything, ergo antilogical and demented shit like this.

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peaceful_world_view 21 points 2 months ago

off with his head

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SirHery 7 points 2 months ago

Eat himmmmm.

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JPSound 20 points 2 months ago

Is "guillotine" a softer word? We could and should just use that instead. I'm all about catering to the elites' baby soft thin skin.

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Sunflier 1 point 2 months ago

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Treczoks 19 points 2 months ago

It he prefers "eat the rich", I won't object.

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nonentity 7 points 2 months ago

Don’t eat shit.

Mulch the rich.

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MrSulu 19 points 2 months ago

Quite unlikely that any of his ancestors worked the cotton fields. He probably thinks he's a self made man.

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boonhet 2 points 2 months ago

Of course he's self-made. His ancestors didn't even have those lucrative cotton field jobs. Probably had to survive off their capital and nothing else.

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Lemmyoutofhere 18 points 2 months ago

JFC, how out of touch can you be from reality?

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Mantzy81 17 points 2 months ago
  1. Overwhelmingly rich isn't a race
  2. There are ways to solve being rich
  3. There are other options if you don't like those but bring a pillow for your head to land on.
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WhyDoYouThinkThat 17 points 2 months ago

lynch him

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witheyeandclaw 15 points 2 months ago

Won't someone think of poor Ken Griffin??

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Sineljora 13 points 2 months ago

Kenneth Cordelle Griffin is the new leader of the Epstein class, and he lied under oath to Congress. May he find out.

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fodor 15 points 2 months ago

That's pretty funny because the phrase doesn't actually have a negative meaning. It's a policy proposal at face value and at depth and that's it. Doesn't say the rich or bad people, although many of them are, doesn't say that nobody should be rich, doesn't even say how much they should be taxed.

And certainly nobody should be thanking the top 1%. We all know that they got there by lying and cheating and stealing and inheriting wealth.

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mycodesucks 14 points 2 months ago

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Longylonglong 14 points 2 months ago

Maybe he should just go fuck himself

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Etterra 13 points 2 months ago

How about "eat the rich" then, motherfucker? With BBQ sauce.

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homes 13 points 2 months ago

yeah. he's right. what's the problem with that?

I'm also bigoted against Nazis, which I suspect he might also have a problem with...

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DonutsRMeh 13 points 2 months ago

Oh rich please.

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newtraditionalists 13 points 2 months ago

This sack of shit is a caricature, it's vomit inducing just to look at him

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Tiger666 13 points 2 months ago

Tax or eat, Steve, tax or eat!

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Leather 5 points 2 months ago

Let's not get in a binary head space - there are tons of options in-between!

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k0e3 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Some of us don't mind taxing and eating the rich.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 5 points 2 months ago

oh yeah? well some of us don't mind taxing, cooking, and eating, the rich and then turning their skin into a bunch of canoes

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BradleyUffner 12 points 2 months ago

He looks like he enjoys a racial slur every now and then.

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GreenKnight23 12 points 2 months ago

ok.

if "tax the rich" isn't enough, maybe this will send a stronger message.

1000003720

is this loud enough you old rich fuck?

or maybe this is more your speed?

1000003721

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backalleycoyote 13 points 2 months ago

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jonesey71 3 points 2 months ago

Just take about 10-15% right off the top of the billionaires.

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BarneyPiccolo 12 points 2 months ago

Add him to The List.

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Corkyskog 6 points 2 months ago

We really should make a list. Not like in list format, something more durable like baking it into some type of meme.

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flandish 11 points 2 months ago

how much proof do we need that the rich are a different species?

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man_wtfhappenedtoyou 8 points 2 months ago

They aren't, they are just sick. As with any sick animal, they should be put down.

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Sunflier 9 points 2 months ago

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BarneyPiccolo 11 points 2 months ago

Let's make this Sociopathic Oligarch understand that his...sort...are the only group left for which BULLYING is totally allowed, and strongly encouraged.

Fuck these loser snowflakes, all the money in the world, and they're whining because we aren't nice enough to them, poor people get all the breaks, it's just not fair.

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aburrito 10 points 2 months ago

Good, it’s getting under his skin cause he feels threatened by it. His ilk will be kicking and screaming about it till the grave, and that makes me feel some petty joy

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Janx 10 points 2 months ago

This is like misogynistic incels complaining about "equality" being a slur against them.

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Sharkticon 10 points 2 months ago

Well that's interesting because I liken billionaire real estate tycoons to war criminals that deserve to be brutally executed. What a coincidence.

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WandowsVista 9 points 2 months ago

makes sense, rich people are the only truly protected class

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Phantaloons 9 points 2 months ago

Throw the rich off a cliff and liquidate their assets and net worth. was a bit too harsh, but whatever we have to do.

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Oofnik 9 points 2 months ago

“I must say that I consider the phrase ‘tax the rich’ – quote tax the rich – spit out with anger and contempt by politicians both here and across the country, to be just as hateful as some disgusting racial slurs, and even the phrase from the ‘river to the sea’,” he said, referring to the controversial pro-Palestinian slogan.

A LOT to unpack here.

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BigTuffAl 8 points 2 months ago

motherfucker is a literal Skeksis

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NocturnalMorning 8 points 2 months ago

Dude is lucky we said tax the rich. That's the socially agreed option. If they stop respecting the plebs, well...

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HubertManne 7 points 2 months ago

every day someone doesn't suck my trump its racism.

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Danarchy 7 points 2 months ago

Lol chop chop, guoillo-bait

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Bloomcole 4 points 2 months ago

losing only 8% sounds fair

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Man_kind 7 points 2 months ago

This is why the rich need to be taxed.

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MonkderVierte 7 points 2 months ago

Ebenezer Scrooge, is that you?

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RunawayFixer 6 points 2 months ago


Source: https://www.moralambition.org/...

Also, the above graph compares averages vs averages. The average of the top bracket is made up of some very rich people who accept that paying taxes is a fair thing to do, and some who try to contribute as little as possible by evading as much as possible. Because he'd prefer us to not talk about this, I have the suspicion that Mr Steve Roth falls into the 2nd category.

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jagermo 6 points 2 months ago

Billionaires are people, too. We are leaders in technology, in industry, in finance. Look at history. Do you know who else vilified a tiny minority of financiers and progressive thinkers called the Jews?

Gavin Belson

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Cevilia 3 points 2 months ago
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muusemuuse 6 points 2 months ago

And much like racists using racial slurs to express how much they hate, we use “tax the rich” while hating you

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SocialMediaRefugee 5 points 2 months ago

I didn't know the rich were a race though at this point they've probably have been having their genes modified.

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turdburglar 5 points 2 months ago

yeet the rich.

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DylanMc6 5 points 2 months ago

Gee, would've been a shame if that rich snob is taxed and his money is redistributed to the poor and pious.

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GreenBeanMachine 5 points 2 months ago
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Olgratin_Magmatoe 5 points 2 months ago

eat the rich

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dan1101 5 points 2 months ago

The ultra-rich can be very ignorant.

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BillCheddar 5 points 2 months ago

To quote Tony Soprano: OH, POOR YOU!

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silverneedle 4 points 2 months ago

One day the masses will take everything from Steve Roth or his heirs. That is a fact of life and nothing can stop it. You can be sure that it doesn't stop at a little wealth tax.

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sportsjorts 4 points 2 months ago

Eat the rich. This country is infested with wealthy parasites.

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 2 months ago

He's really not going like "Eat The Rich."

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Bluedragon012 4 points 2 months ago

If that's true, then we are using it right. I'd only use a slur on beings that are less than human and ultra rich fit that pereftly. And as well read as the rich are, they know what happens when a being is considered less than human. >:D

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Sam_Bass 4 points 2 months ago

wealth is not a racial sect.

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ZILtoid1991 4 points 2 months ago

Okay, here's the politically correct version then:

Take a portion of the income and wealth of people of wealth they don't plan on investing in a short period of time (not paid out as wages, etc.).

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CrowAirbrush 4 points 2 months ago

Well he's not wrong, it's definitely hateful. We don't say it because we think it's fair they get billions and we have to scrape by while doing the actual work.

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Photonic 6 points 2 months ago

That doesn’t make it hateful in the sense that it has been used recently. It’s just a normal response to someone’s horrible behaviour.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 point 2 months ago

Are both of the following hateful?

  • Tax the rich - at 1%

  • Tax the rich - at 99%

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CptHacke 3 points 2 months ago

Vampires suck.

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finallymadeanaccount 3 points 2 months ago

There's nothing wrong with 'Tax the Rich'. It's no better or worse than the usual phrases 'Eat the Rich', or 'Suffocate the Rich by Stretching Their Scrotum Up Over Their Head'.

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libre_warrior 3 points 2 months ago

I dont think it is a slur. To be rich is even to this day associated with good qualities.

in other words, the word rich doesnt reflect reality and we have to weed it out

I think grabber is more suitable, because they grab property away from the commons.

Release the grip!

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Echolynx 3 points 2 months ago

irresponsible and dangerous

For whom? The mayor? Isn't that a threat?

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DylanMc6 3 points 2 months ago

Ken Griffin should be taxed

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Endymion_Mallorn 3 points 2 months ago

Alright. Normalize both then. And remember that "tax" is a euphemism.

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resipsaloquitur 3 points 2 months ago

He’s really not going to like what comes after “tax the rich,” then.

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FistingEnthusiast 3 points 2 months ago

Well,

He's a cunt then

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webkitten 2 points 2 months ago

Something something if you're comparing the badness of two words - John Mulaney

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BlackLaZoR 2 points 2 months ago
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Phantaloons 1 point 2 months ago
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Sirdubdee 1 point 2 months ago

People that say that aren’t even rich.

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