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2 days ago by grumpy_cat to c/lemmyshitpost

xkbx 230 points 2 days ago

i like it when my pornography creeps up in non-porn places, but that’s because my crippling addiction to porn has made porn boring

recently i even jerked off to a rubik’s cube because it was the least porn thing i could think of

that slutty-ass cube

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lime 67 points 2 days ago

porn addiction is just a symptom of serotonin deficiency

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Meron35 42 points 2 days ago

Who is Sarah and where are the videos of her toning her body

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stray 6 points 2 days ago

No, not that kind of toning. Sara's toning the fish in the sea.

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timeghost 11 points 2 days ago

Ah, atoning for her fins.

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schipelblorp 11 points 2 days ago

serotonin defiiciency

Meh.

Your brain just reflects life.

A porn addiction more likely means you're lacking rewarding activities in your life and/or you're avoiding thinking about by jerking it.

And FWIW the whole serotonin theory of depression is demonstrably bunk.

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lime 9 points 2 days ago

we're saying the same thing: understimulated reward centre. and i never mentioned depression.

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schipelblorp 1 point 12 hours ago

The implication of the way you said it is that there an underlying chemical/biological cause that could be addressed with a chemical/biological solution; I don't think the arrow of causality points in that direction.

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FinjaminPoach 6 points 2 days ago

I've been looking into this and your advice seems very sound

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tryagain 1 point 2 days ago

Today I learned and now I will be googling

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0ops 52 points 2 days ago

Nothing wrong with mixing it up a little

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surewhynotlem 39 points 2 days ago

Underrated cube pun

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groet 28 points 2 days ago

Hehe, ass-cube

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Fedizen 17 points 2 days ago

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barzaria 2 points 18 hours ago

Those are some nice ass-cubes.

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TheTechnician27 20 points 2 days ago

Your p*rnography*, you f*cking p*rvert.

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pennomi 32 points 2 days ago

C*nsorship is my kink.

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JackbyDev 13 points 2 days ago

🤤 redact this ****

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PP_BOY_ 15 points 2 days ago

****** to **** until *** *******

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tinyvoltron 11 points 2 days ago

Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

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Burninator05 5 points 2 days ago

Say goodbye to these!

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MeatPilot 9 points 2 days ago

Me too fella!

Rubik's cubes tease so much. All I want to do is click it in all the right places. But that smooth little box edges me for days never letting me cum to completion.

I have yet to finish, been gooning the cube for decades. When I finally slide that last square into place, I'm going to bust so fucking hard.

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Gullible 74 points 2 days ago

This isn’t a power girl movie and the actress playing supergirl is nowhere near buxom enough to play her even if it were one. Supergirl’s outfit has never looked like the left.

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kryptonianCodeMonkey 49 points 2 days ago

In much of her history, she's also quite young. Young enough to live in an orphanage in the golden age before getting foster/adoptive parents. Sometimes she's an adult in the 20-24ish range. But it seems like every time the canon gets reset for her she's canonically 16 again. And as such she's almost always dressed pretty reasonably by Superheroine standards.

She almost always wears a skirt and briefs, if not shorts, tights, pants or full legged unitard. Don't know that she has ever been depicted as particularly busty.

In fact, it is a running gag that her Earth 2 counterpart, Powergirl, is famously quite busty and confident his her body (boob window and all), particularly in comparison to Supergirl.

For comparison sake:

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Cypher 49 points 2 days ago

Supergirls depiction here is more sexualised than the left example in the OP imo

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jballs 46 points 2 days ago

Lol I was about to say, that's "pretty reasonably" dressed"?

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thebestaquaman 13 points 2 days ago

"By superheroine standards" is the key here. Going by how they're often depicted, I would say this could qualify as "pretty reasonable".

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Fedizen 2 points 2 days ago

Her shoulders are covered?

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SaraTonin 6 points 2 days ago

We can, at least, identify her exactly in the film, as she celebrates her 23rd birthday

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Holytimes 3 points 19 hours ago

I'll never forget the boob window is there to help deal with the boob sweat.

I mean there's logic there but it's funny none the less.

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captainlezbian 3 points 16 hours ago

That's not where my boobs tend to be sweaty. I'd put the window under them for that

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uriel238 50 points a day ago

This was a whole plot point of season one of The Boys in which Vought International forces Starlight to wear a skimpier costume (this after she was already sexually assaulted by The Deep).

Reality imitates art, I guess.

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4grams 19 points a day ago

I mean, the boys was meant as biting social commentary so not sure where we are in the cart/horse equation here.

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ironycanal 4 points 19 hours ago

That guy's stuff is always really on the nose. Watch 'preacher', his previous adapted-for-tv work. Its about American Christianity, conservative politics, and their conspiracies. Blunt, crass, pointlessly violent, politically kind of inchoate beyond the negative 'this is all dumb Nazi shit' but said amusingly ever so often. Eugenics Jesus was a pretty good gag about american myth and Nazi racial mythology.

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 13 hours ago

I read the Preacher comic and... I gotta say, it falls off fast after the first couple of chapters. The mature-ish grotesquerie made to deliver context early on devolves into pure juvenille banging-my-action-figures-together by the end.

Eugenics Jesus was a pretty good gag about american myth and Nazi racial mythology.

I enjoyed "What if the Catholic Church tried to Hapsburg Family the Desposyni" as a concept. The execution was crass and fell flat. They could have had a legitimately interesting story arc introducing a severely disabled Jesus descendant capable of the odd miracle who the straight white male able-bodied main character could engage with. But it was more fun to make poop jokes and then splatter them in the punchline panel.

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ironycanal 2 points 13 hours ago

Only saw the tv, but the concept is almost exactly how the Nazis conceptualized the whole 'master race' thing,in addition to megahapsburg.

And the idea of breeding jesuses is pretty funny. But yes it did all kind of devolve to that.

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UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 11 hours ago

And the idea of breeding jesuses is pretty funny.

It's a great setup for a long running joke. One reason why Garth Ennis is so obnoxious. He loves to squander a good premise on a cheap punchline.

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 13 hours ago

It's nutpicking, to a degree. The odds of finding someone who wants to fuck the cartoons approaches 1.0 lightning fast on the internet. I'm less disgusted with the guy whining about an uninspiring upskirt shot (literally, why even shoot that frame? You could just not point the camera there!) I'm more disgusted with the AI Slop in the first panel, where they've replaced Kara Zor-El's legs with the Hulk's for some reason.

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FinjaminPoach 47 points 2 days ago

Left hand image doesn't even look like her usual costume so where tf did he get that idea from

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lightnsfw 7 points a day ago

There's probably something from the 90s/early 00s with her dressed like that. Comics were really ramping it up for a while there. Not that teenager me was complaining.

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Odo 1 point 2 days ago
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ayyy 46 points 2 days ago

Why is the word porn censored?

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cley_faye 37 points 2 days ago

Because we normalized self-censorship to make it more palatable to everyone. Which is stupid.

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v4ld1z 21 points a day ago

Make it more palatable to advertisers

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cley_faye 11 points a day ago

Fuck advertisers.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 17 points a day ago

F*ck self-censorship.

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Katana314 5 points 18 hours ago

Irony doesn’t make it better. Every self-censor is trying to use irony.

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ironycanal 1 point 13 hours ago

It absolutely does, and not every s¹lf-c¹nsorship is doing that.

¹the devil's letter

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Holytimes 13 points 19 hours ago

Its called algospeak and it's one of the most retarded fucking things ever.

Its the first time I've ever thought that the children are infact doomed and retarded.

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ironycanal 2 points 13 hours ago

'Everyone' being violent prudes who worship at rge altars of Comstock and McCarthy.

People who work in industries like porn, people whose existence is often censored, and people who identify/sympathize with obscenity because their existence is regarded as obscenity do not count. Fuck them. They're all trash.

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buddascrayon 10 points a day ago

Because most of the people on Lemmy are refugees from reddit and nowadays on reddit, if you are not a porn focused sub then they require you to censor every damn thing or face getting banned from that particular subreddit, getting banned from several subreddits depending on who's modding and how many subs they are modding and how fucking stupid their bots happen to be, or getting banned from the entire site by the admins on their particular whim for that day/week.

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rob_t_firefly 2 points 18 hours ago

Lemmy is not Reddit.

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spazzman6156 5 points a day ago

Someone else already answered the why. What I think the best reaction is when you see this kind of bullshit censorship is just down vote it.

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DarkCloud 40 points 2 days ago

You know, in ancient Greece super man and women were nude.

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PrimeMinisterKeyes 13 points 2 days ago

Tell me more...

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SabinStargem 6 points a day ago

Greece

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buddascrayon 3 points a day ago

Just read the Princess of Mars (or John Carter of Mars depending on how you wanna look at it) series by Edgar Rice Borroughs. Literally everyone is naked and doing crazy superhuman shit.

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wpb 38 points 2 days ago

What we want: henry cavill in the exact outfit on the left

What we got: henry cavill in the normal superman outfit

Not pictured: an AI rendering of the above, because do we really need to spend resources on that?

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Jankatarch 4 points 2 days ago

May I have Henry Cavilll in the outfit on right too?

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Karjalan 2 points 2 days ago

"Yes, we must acceleray the atmospheric cooking of the planet to make an uncanny valley rendition of a meme we have already clearly explained with words that maybe a dozen people will see and exhale out their nose breifly at" - too many people, for some reason

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Taleya 3 points a day ago

I know a dozen fanfic artists who have already drawn it or similar imagery for free

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qarbone 38 points 2 days ago

This is my exact stance. I want my porn separate from my non-porn.

People that just have badonkulous jiggle physics blasting while they play a normal game baffle me.

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schipelblorp 15 points 2 days ago

I'm like this about food.

I like my candy and food to be separate. All this candy-masquerading-as-food, like sweetened yogurt and cranberry sauce, can get bent.

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silasmariner 6 points 2 days ago

If your cranberry sauce is that sweet it has too much sugar in it. It should be sharp and sexy, not sweet and not-as-sexy-yet-more-conventially-appealing

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Wren 5 points a day ago

I've been waiting all my life for someone to put this into words.

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blarghly 3 points a day ago

Slimegirl enthusiast over here

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Holytimes 2 points 19 hours ago

Slimes are sexy! Justice for slimes!

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vaultdweller013 9 points a day ago

I get you but also I feel like this is an unrealized pushback to just how sanitized a lot of mainstream culture has become. I feel like a lot of media up until about the 2010s give or take had a lot of sexual elements without being porn outright and while not necessarily being erotic, it really does feel like a weird bit of cultural puritanism especially given how hot a lot of actors are.

In summary a lot of things are hot but basically nothing is sexy and it's weird.

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qarbone 7 points a day ago

My issue with "porn in nonporn" is it almost always feels objectifying. Like the gooner Supergirl in the OP image: if her character liked the look of a battlethong and owned it, then that's fine. It might even factor into the story. But if she just looks like that and acts like things are normal, then it's like she is being sexed up solely for some nondiegetic viewer. It gives me the same sort of voyeuristic ick as invisible people peeping in locker rooms or perverts abusing X-Ray glasses.

I don't mind Skinemax; like softcore porn is fine. Because everyone understands the assignment.

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vaultdweller013 3 points a day ago

I get what you're saying and I agree to an extent but even shit like that doesn't really exist anymore. Like I said it feels like something over corrected when moving away from objectification and right into puritanism. I don't quite have the verbage required to quite explain what I mean, it just kinda feels like a lot of media and even culture is outright sex averse in a weird way.

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qarbone 2 points a day ago

I'd say that is a US-centric concern (and media that expects the US market), maybe even more broadly a Western concern. Japan at least, uh, has not had much of a concern with sexifying...pretty much anything.

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r1veRRR 3 points a day ago

I can only think of maybe a small handful of positive instances of "porn in nonporn". For example, Bayonetta as a character is very much aware of her sexiness, and approves of flaunting it. Compare that to something like Stellar Blade, where the Eve is just "accidentally" super hot, with zero self awareness.

I agree, is what I'm saying.

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captainlezbian 2 points 16 hours ago

And that makes a huge difference imo. Both are designed to be hot and gazed at, but Bayonetta is at least given watsonian agency. The character is in this way believable, because yeah the people in real life who dress super skimpy in a fashionable way are typically doing so on purpose.

The realistic version of the "hot chick who just happens to be dressing skimpy" would probably be just dressing plainly for hot weather. But it would be a distinct and interesting character design choice to have a major character in a video game just wearing cutoff shorts, a tank top, and practical sandals. That character design feels much more aimed at female players than male ones, and like if in a genre with lots of skimpy outfits would be an intentional rejection of the trope.

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captainlezbian 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah I think there's this huge gap between the image on the left and say the way the parents acted in Malcolm in the Middle. The former is sexually suggestive in a sterile way. It's like if your accountant was working in their underwear. The latter is sexual without being sexy. It's a married couple who has a major character trait of trying to fit some boinking into any gap in the schedule they can. It doesn't try to titilate the viewer, but instead just depicts sex as a normal part of adult life.

I'm not saying one shouldn't have sexy characters, but when it's emphasized the sexy should always serve the character. None of this "she breathes through her skin" nonsense. No you want a superhero in a blatantly sexual outfit, then tell us about how they're insecure and showing skin to deal with it, or that they're using sexuality to cope with the stress and difficulties of their job, or even just that they really like feeling hot. Have them acknowledge the sex behind the sexual choices the designers made.

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WorldsDumbestMan 8 points 2 days ago

It is bloody irritating when there's anime boobies in my face, while trying to loot my enemies for every resource they have.

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Tigeroovy 33 points a day ago

I mean, I’m as much of a gooner as the next guy but if you don’t think the one on the right is hot that’s a you problem.

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justme 9 points a day ago

yeah, the left one looks terrible

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Earthman_Jim 31 points 2 days ago

Absolute loser behavior.

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python 30 points 2 days ago

As a woman, I kinda thought for a second that the costume on the left looks kinda cool. Then I remembered chub rub exists and visibly recoiled. It would be so painful to walk around in that jfc

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rexxit 13 points 2 days ago

Yes, but what about Bubb Rubb?

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BreadOven 3 points 2 days ago

Whoopp whhoooooppp!

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timeghost 1 point 2 days ago

That's only in the morning.

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captainlezbian 1 point 16 hours ago

"No no it's ok, she's kryptonian so she wouldn't get chub rub"

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StarryPhoenix97 29 points 2 days ago

It's not even a horny thing, but the one on the left is just too distracting. I'd be staring at it the whole time just trying to figure out why Supergirl made that choice.

Her thighs would always be cold. Any major combat movement is going to make her bits show. It looks like she literally cut her shorts into that shape.

Like... I like attractive women too, but come on, guys. There's no way in hell she'd wear her costume like that. I'd just be annoyed by it the whole time.

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Squirrelanna 7 points a day ago

Would her thighs not be cold with the one on the right??

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Tja 7 points a day ago

Any major combat movement is going to make her bits show.

Hence distracting the villains and gaining tactical advantage!

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Katana314 5 points 18 hours ago

Same. I’m a gooner. But I like building into the fantasy. I like the role play starting with “Ooh, I’m a tough mage overestimating herself, here I go in this dungeon” - but starting that mage out in nothing but a thong pulls me out.

Write situations where it makes sense to briefly see someone in their underwear, I won’t deny being satisfied. But you’d have to write. People still need regular clothes

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moopet 4 points 15 hours ago

She wouldn't care about the cold, she can survive without discomfort in the vacuum of space or in a house fire.

I mean, realistically her and Superman's clothes should rip off within milliseconds of them doing 99% of the things they end up doing.

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_stranger_ 2 points 12 hours ago

I'm half remembering a scene from I think one of the justice league movies where they explain that Superman's invulnerability field extends like a millimeter from his skin, mostly protecting his clothes. Something about his powers being based around a telekinetic field projection that, for example, lets him hold entire buildings by a single corner without them crumbling into bricks.

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ironycanal 2 points 13 hours ago

And I'd watch that. It would be much more fun to watch. It would be a good scene. It would highlight the whole 'world of cardboard' thing, and be kinda hot, and set up dramatic or comedic payoffs later.

You don't even have to do anything nsfw to play with the concept. Burning the pants off one leg or superman's shirt would get the point across if they wanted to. They do not.

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Crozekiel 1 point 12 hours ago

Any major combat movement is going to make her bits show.

She is an alien, so maybe she doesn't have bits like humans.

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anon_8675309 23 points 2 days ago

If the left outfit is better for doing super stuff then Superman needs to wear a speedo.

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lime 15 points 2 days ago

he does, with long johns on underneath.

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pulsey 4 points 2 days ago

maybe one of the elephant trunk undies.

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Holytimes 2 points 19 hours ago

Strictly speaking he does wear one. Most superheros do... Some just wear tights under it lol

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Sanctus 22 points 2 days ago

Speak for yourself. Kryptonians, like Saiyans, exist for the cool ass fight scenes and saying shit like "The world belongs to its people, not tyrants". (Maybe Saiyans dont say that lol)

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psx_crab 9 points 2 days ago

Maybe Saiyans dont say that lol

Obviously, because Saiyans also have a tyrant, King Vegeta. Saiyan are born warrior and compassion aren't being taught as it's treated as a weakness amongst them, so they're basically a race of ruthless fighter, and King Vegeta is on the top of that. He went and conquer the stars, and only stopped because of Frieza, the bigger tyrant.

The only good saiyan is Goku, all due to the head trauma and also raised by Gohan. Vegeta only being good because of the bigger tyrant, Bulma.

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Sanctus 1 point a day ago

Bardock is also pretty chill.

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Holytimes 1 point 19 hours ago

This is bulma slander and Vegeta won't have anyone speaking bad of his waifu!

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nutbutter 6 points 2 days ago

Goku might not have said that, but he defeated a tyrant, Frieza.

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Sanctus 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah its just he seems special among them. Most seemed content to be the tyrant themselves lol

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Gormadt 4 points 2 days ago

Defeating the tyrants encroaching on their turf.

It is said that when a Saiyen warrior is territorial enough then it's hair will change colors and it'll get far stronger and far more violent.

"This sector's only big enough for 1 tyrant, Imma woop your ass!" Super Saiyen noises

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TwistedTurtle 19 points 2 days ago

Sex is too important to be left to porn.

Not saying this guy in particular is right, but I hate this attitude that "porn exists so we shouldn't have sex, or nudity, or anything horny in other art forms". We shouldn't treat people like creeps just because they want more horny in mainstream art.

I find the current cinema trend of "everyone is beautiful, but no one is horny" far creepier than the rampant sexualization in old 80s movies.

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Herr_S_aus_H 41 points 2 days ago

Maybe don't sexualize the character that, at least in part, is aimed at teenage girls.

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TwistedTurtle 21 points 2 days ago

See, that's an example of a much better argument than "porn exists, stop being a creep".

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MJKee9 11 points 2 days ago

The point of the post and the reason for calling the guy a creep (I say guy because we're definitely dealing with a male here) is because he wants a movie that is not designed to be pornography to have elements that would be better placed in a pornographic movie. You are inserting a degree of kink shaming into the post that doesn't actually exist. Watching pornography and having a healthy attitude about sex is different from wanting to sexualize a story that is not trying to be sexual. That is creepy.

Edit: deleted unnecessary sentence

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TwistedTurtle 3 points a day ago

Again, I'm not defending this particular guy - I'm criticizing the response, which is an attitude that's prevelant today, especially amongst the youth. A lot of people hate on sex/nudity of any form in mainstream art, and their argument is generally "just go watch porn you creeps".

Maybe Supergirl specifically shouldn't be sexualized (even though she's sexualized in most of the source material I remember), but if so, let's come up with a better reason than "a containment genre exists for sex, and if you want to see it escape that box then you're a degenerate!".

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blarghly -10 points a day ago

we’re definitely dealing with a male here

Using "male" as a noun to describe a person is dehumanizing

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modus 1 point 14 hours ago

Unless your thing is teenage girls. Then it's ok. /s

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blarghly -5 points a day ago

So we aren't allowed to sexualize Orlando Bloom anymore, then?

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Katana314 5 points 18 hours ago

Keep talking if you’ve ever taken offense to the way Orlando Bloom has been depicted, or been made uncomfortable by his depiction. Otherwise, I’d say let it go.

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whereitsat -8 points 2 days ago

why is her outfit 'sexualizing' anyway?

even if her outfit didn't suggest 'panties' it'd still be sexy because it accentuates her form.

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whereitsat -8 points 2 days ago

the actress is probably 35, who cares who the character is aimed at. it's normal for men to see an attractive woman and be like 'wow she's attractive.'

you're pathologizing normal thinking and probably feeling incredibly satisfied with your lame response because you used the word 'teenage' and nobody would dare to cross swords.

grow up.

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PeriodicallyPedantic 28 points a day ago

Afaict, nobody is making the argument that you're refuting.

There is art that is elevated by being horny and art that is made worse by it. Being horny doesn't fit this character, and isn't relevant to the story being told, so it seems like a bad fit. Being a bad fit, the only people this would benefit are creeps who want upskirt shots of whoever, and I don't think that's a demographic to cater to at the sacrifice of the more vulnerable demographics that this film is targeting.

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Holytimes 3 points 19 hours ago

The cut of the leotard is way too much. But a leotard still makes fine sense for a super hero who's doing athletic acrobatics.

If anything the cape is the stupidest part of the outfit.

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DarrinBrunner 4 points 15 hours ago

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Thebeardedsinglemalt 1 point a day ago

That's one of the things I didn't like about gal gadisreal's version of Wonder woman. Her whole costume is half a step above a bikini with how skimpy it is.

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elephantium 5 points a day ago

Err...this is Wonder Woman you're discussing, right? A skimpy costume is completely on-brand for the original.

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blarghly 2 points a day ago

Hey now - bikinis arent sexual. Only the male gaze makes them so

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Holytimes 5 points 19 hours ago

All modern swim ware is basically inherently sexual. Its literally the point of the ...

We literally went from modest swim wear which went sexual to speedos and bikinis because explicitly they ARE sexual.

Hell even the modern one piece and swim trunks the less sexual options are still designed to be sexual.

Its not the male gaze. Bikinis objectively speaking are by design intended to be and are sexual.

Half the fucking point of wearing a skimpy swimwear to the beach is to show off your body. Its half the fun for heaven sake!

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whereitsat -5 points 2 days ago

porn in america is hyper-aggressive and focused on penetration. there's no eroticism to it. it's crass and disgusting.

there's something to putting on a 90s skinemax film and seeing hot milfs wearing sexy, satin nighties tenderly riding men on a real bed in a real bedroom, instead of watching giant, unearthly cocks penetrating gaping vaginas in extreme close-up.

what a boneheaded take out of the OP.

there's a HUGE difference between what porn is selling and what turns you on.

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Taleya 10 points a day ago

Has it occured to you that a supergirl movie is not a vehicle designed to "turn you on" whereas the pornophraphy industry explicitly caters to sexual desires.

Also who gives a fuck how shit american porn is, we have the internet

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petrol_sniff_king 2 points a day ago

porn in america is hyper-aggressive and focused on penetration. there's no eroticism to it. it's crass and disgusting.

Truuue.

what a boneheaded take out of the OP.

Well, the guy they're talking to is almost certainly a Sargon of Akkad-lite who is upset that feminism is ruining his disney movies. I would tell him to go watch porn too, but that's because I like zingers.

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Tattorack 16 points 16 hours ago

I've only ever known Supergirl to have a full suit like Kal-El, or a skirt with thigh-highs.

Don't mistake Supergirl with her Project Cadmus clone; Powergirl, with huge tits, boob window, and completely bare legs.

Supergirl isn't a manufactured object in the comics, so she doesn't look like one.

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Crozekiel 2 points 12 hours ago

Basically. Turn the S logo into a cleavage window and it's Powergirl.

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brucethemoose 13 points a day ago

Holy moly, this comment section.

Good job for defeating my very low expectations, Lemmy.

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UnderpantsWeevil 13 points 13 hours ago

Jesus Christ, she's 40% thigh in that first one.

Somebody just wants to see Supergirl crush a watermelon with her legs.

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_stranger_ 8 points 12 hours ago

I wouldn't walk out of the theater if it happened.

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zarathustrad 3 points 10 hours ago

FIFY

"crush the bad guys head like a watermelon with her legs"

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Fedizen 11 points 2 days ago

Fixed

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PlaidBaron 19 points 2 days ago

Is this loss?

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Hack3900 15 points 2 days ago

What

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Fedizen 9 points 2 days ago

I can't believe I missed those. Here's the final fixed version

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hOrni 9 points 10 hours ago

I'll agree to the left one, but only if we make superman wear the same costume. And we go back to Cavill.

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Randelung 3 points 10 hours ago

Ohoho, I think we can all agree on that, no matter the orientation.

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Proprietary_Blend 9 points 2 days ago

Porky no lost dose?

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PrimeMinisterKeyes 12 points 2 days ago

Are you drunk?
Because I am.

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Rusty 8 points 2 days ago path: 0 24357215 24359204, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 1
Proprietary_Blend 1 point 2 days ago

Porn grapples me?

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Katana314 8 points 16 hours ago

There’s probably a good opportunity for a more detailed discussion on sexuality in media here.

Several things are true. One, I think most commenters agree the guy posting this is likely a sex-obsessed misogynist. Two, some people do get uncomfortable, or lose immersion in media, based on certain costume designs. Three, some people would like to see more sexualization/attractive characters in media for their own enjoyment, and in certain contexts that’s not always a harmful thing to ask for.

It’s also made trickier because for groups both for/against sexualization of various forms, they’re often shy about discussing it. It’s a subject that leads to fast accusations of censorship, prudishness, or misogynistic deviancy or gender hatred.

Still, I do think there’s better balances to achieve by allowing a bit more communication. Wonder if this makes sense as a YouTube video or just a more open-ended thread question starting with a poll.

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yakko 2 points 13 hours ago

I mean this is all tied up in the whole "art as a product" issue. My instincts with anything creative are always to let people create what they want, and let critics think and say anything about it. Whenever there's interference in that process, I think we lose a lot of the point of the thing.

To make it more about policy, I think funding for the arts should be several orders of magnitude higher, and there should be no taste regulations placed on what kinds of subject matter can be funded (obviously no hate speech or anything illegal). That way there would surely be enough horny and tasteful art for everyone to feel however they want about it.

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Katana314 3 points 12 hours ago

It's not the first subject where I've heard that sentiment, the other big one being difficulty in video games. But it's pretty disingenuous, since most great media authors I know seek some level of feedback on their creation, and adjust based on how people have perceived it because some part of their work isn't quite coming across how they'd hope. Valve famously does oodles of QA testing on all their properties.

The question isn't just between "Is providing attractive characters good/bad". It can also be more nuanced, like "I want to make this character really attractive, but some people feel soured by the designs I've given where she has a bikini. Is there some way to design her that's still really visually appealing, in a slightly sexual way, but also feels enjoyable to people who view her more as a role model?"

A great example of that nuance was in the "Tracer victory pose debacle" in Overwatch. Tracer had a victory pose that was just her, facing away, shoving her butt out. Someone commented that it felt off-kilter for her personality, and Blizzard ended up replacing it with another one. A censorship crowd wailed on the occasion, but when comparing the two poses, there's a more reasonable take there; the ass-centric pose didn't fit the character much, and the new one was both cute and still managed to show off her slender legs while also fitting the "pilot" theme. It also helps that media of that type has a lot of character designs on offer, so it might just be a matter of hitting more archetypes correctly, instead of everything leaning in the direction of "big booba no clotha".

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yakko 1 point 10 hours ago

I definitely don't want to open the topic of difficulty in games right now, enough ink has been spilled and hardly anybody ever changed their minds.

I do want to point out that an ongoing conversation with your audience is an optional part of the creative process - and one you'd expect to see normalized when art is mainly treated as a product. My view is that the value of art is lessened when that's taken for granted. It can be really interesting when a writer's relationship with their readers causes a story to go someplace unexpected. But some creators are jealous of their vision, and couldn't bear to take such candid feedback in the middle of their creative. It's easy to see both sides of that coin, I just wish people could be free to make their choices without thinking too much about the coin.

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Katana314 1 point 7 hours ago

Yeah, I'm fine with leaving the difficulty subject alone; as you said, it becomes pretty polarizing.

What you describe about a more individual, self-owned experience is often what makes novels/writing so compelling to people, since they generally come from one crazy mind, undoctored. Even then, you might be surprised how many different professional editing roles tend to go into a very refined book.

Movies and games tend to involve an order of magnitude more people, not all of them holding the title of "Game Designer" but all having a very important form of input to the end product, both for effort and for decisionmaking. If the studio's lawyer takes a look at a virtual vending machine's set of drinks and says "No, change those two, they run a risk of lawsuits from Pepsi", is that "outside censorship", or does the lawyer count as "part of the studio" because he's at the same risk of publisher layoff as everyone else?

The hazy answers to that question, in my mind, are part of the reasons I don't find the "Author vision, unfiltered" argument so compelling, especially as games involve larger studios. I think you're right at least that it does create something more unique when a smaller, talented team is given reigns, eg Half-Life 2 or Expedition 33.

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KingPorkChop 7 points a day ago

I don't want either. For me, superhero stuff is tried and boring. How about some new ideas?

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Soleos 6 points a day ago

There are lots of new ideas being made, go watch those. This is not made for you, it's made for people who want old ideas presented in a blockbuster format.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 2 points a day ago

How about pirate comics?

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brown567 2 points 15 hours ago

*One Piece theme intensifies*

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andros_rex 4 points 10 hours ago

I don’t understand the adolescent need for every female character to be fuckable.

Consider the absolute meltdown over the new God of War game. It’s to the point where some loser made an AI slop game where the character does laundry, gives birth, etc… because they’re so buttmad that every game isn’t Stellar Blade.

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Ravenheart 3 points 2 days ago

I don't know who this Fahhh person is. Are we sure they aren't just making a dumb joke? Because it's giving me those vibes.

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Duamerthrax 7 points 2 days ago

They bought a blue checkmark.

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Slovene85 1 point 2 days ago

Yeah, they sure as hell aren't actually returning their ticket.

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KingGimpicus 1 point a day ago

We do. It just doesnt feel any less empty inside.

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nullspace 0 points a day ago

It wouldn't be fair if Superman got underpants and Supergirl didn't.

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PrimeMinisterKeyes -4 points 2 days ago

I mean, I don't quite agree with Fahhh's stance, but how is the left image porn or porn-related, and why should horny = creepy?

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theQuickBrownFox 14 points 2 days ago

it shouldn't but it does way too often. in this example the man is bothered by a woman not being dressed in a sexually suggestive costume, something one would usually expect from pornography. There is no real reason to the man's frustration other than sexual desire.

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thepig 3 points 2 days ago

There is no real reason to Men frustration other than sexual desire 🙏🧙

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SpatchyIsOnline 5 points 2 days ago

Damn, my code not working is sexual desire apparently 😂

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thepig 1 point 2 days ago

Why do you code ? Why do you care that your code fails ? Truly it must be because you want to impress and attract partners aso you can release your pent up libido. Or at least Freud would say some variation of this

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DeadDigger 1 point 2 days ago

... Wait ppl normally don't orgasm due to nice and working code?

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napoleonsdumbcousin 7 points 2 days ago

You think returning your mainstream movie ticket because the main character is not sexualized enough is not creepy? I think it tells you a lot about this person's thoughts.

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SabinStargem -7 points a day ago

For me, I would prefer to combine both. A good panty shot is one of my jams.

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Mulligrubs -19 points a day ago

So, liking skimpy outfits on my favored absurd super hero is now "creepy", and I should watch porn instead?

What the fuck is wrong with liking the first costume? Desiring "realism" in costume design is your preference, fine. Not everyone wants realism from their ridiculous super hero fantasies. If you're disgusted by that, the problem is you.

You'd be one of those beach cops writing tickets to bikini-clad sunbathers. Good job.

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Lumidaub 29 points a day ago

There's nothing wrong with liking it, there's something wrong with demanding it and being outraged at not getting it and returning your ticket because apparently the costume is the only thing that matters about the movie and it is RUINED.

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blarghly 3 points a day ago

tbf, im pretty sure ooop is a shitpost. But Poes Law is in effect

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bss03 8 points a day ago

I think the problem is objectification. It's fiction and fantasy, but in the case of a live-action movie, there's a real person under the fictions, and we need to remember that.

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blarghly 1 point a day ago

A real hot person!

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