The answer is money

Cutting off Twitter means losing potential audience. It was an ideological stance when they did it, now nothing ideological is left at MozCorp.

To me it seems like they're really pushing for mass-market appeal right now compared to just maintaining or slowly growing their existing more dedicated/niche base.

You can see it with them adding widgets, a free VPN, more visibly advertising trackers blocked (at least on Android, not sure about iOS), rebranding with a new mascot, and now going back to a platform that still has a ton of user lock-in keeping people there. They're trying to pull in regular people, I presume so they don't become as dependent on a base that has more strongly held convictions that Mozilla has to comply with to keep its users.

If it works out for them, it'll be good for their long-term funding and security, market appeal, etc, but bad for users that care a lot more about fundamental principles.

There's potential users there, and ff isn't going to lose any users by rejoining.

AI?

Sadly plenty of ppl still use Twitter, plenty of companies and celebs still doing their thing there. Why do we have to single out Firefox? It's not a company that as ideals like most people here do. Yeah their new stuff is definitely shady, but it's that for Chromium. I'll still use Firefox, this doesn't bother me at all, cuz honestly who gives a fuck. I get the optics, but we do not live in a perfect world of morals and ideals. I only have limited energy I can dish out and this affects me 0% so I'll put that much into it. People are addicted to being angry all the time...

There's a debate to be had about not participating in platforms that do bad things vs. reaching people where they are, I suppose.

I still remember this line someone said while complaining about how The Boys was toothless at actually pushing back against hero worship and capitalism.

You don't have to care, but vou really can't even if you want to.

Companies don't have morals, all they have is just profit. Why are you holding Firefox to some mythical standard? It's a company, it's only gotten shadier. Can't wait when other browsers hit the market in a couple years and Firefox will eventually die. Just a matter of time, they can't increase their market share for fuck all.

mozillas existence is too intertwined with GOOGLe.

Fascism is when using twitter?

It might be disappointing, but not much more.

It's just that classic corporate moral grandstanding in another flavor, like companies who are pro-Pride for June but forget queer people exist 11 months of the year, or worse, only have Pride acknowledgement during Democrat presidencies.

Virtually every (large) (for-profit) company's moral compass is: Get more money.

If fully endorsing Hitler would result in a 1% rise in profits, they'd do it.

If Mozilla needs money they can start by firing whomever they hired to run it.

as social democrats have shown, copying your shithead competition is definitely 100% certainly undoubtedly THE only way to guarantee 100% that you recover all losses and continue to grow.

oh wait

I've said for too many years that they need to stop copying Google and forge their own path

They clearly don't want to. Everyone at Mozzila is happy to be Google's anti monopoly excuse and live in utter mediocrity. It's by design.

"Greetings fellow Nazis!" Yeah fuck these guys

Yup, as someone who tried to use Twitter back in the day it's much harder to use it than to ignore it. Twitter is just shouting your virtue signaling and dog whistles into the void for worthless Kudos. I can do that without even using a computer.

It cost them nothing? Isn't there some kind of hardware or software/IT/power cost for hosting?

Vivaldi makes it easier for Google to maintain its monopoly and dictate how things are on the web. Google is way worse than Mozilla in every aspect. A Firefox fork is the way.

My unwillingness to use Chromium borders on the extreme, but this is the final straw for me. Vivaldi seems more aligned with my values than any other major player at this point, and the Firefox forks don't sit quite right with me.

I can't wait for Servo to be ready.

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Firefox has been shitty for years. They just have good marketing.

They must have CEOs that think you always need to act, when sometimes inaction is the best action

Do they even have a Tee-ball team?

Best part of the movie

Now how does one refer to a tweet in the past tense? Does a tweet ever become a twat?

What if a cartel of cyber bridge trolls kidnap your grandma and the only way to view their riddles is reopening old social media? Is that a good excuse?

I may be mistaken, but I thought Twitter still granted it to some people without paying? Or maybe they fully moved it to "check = subscription".

No need to call names. Height challenged special people are people as well

Pretty sure they are referring to the ens—tification process.

Mozilla has always supported CP (cross platform)

Hehe

I'm personally sticking with Gecko while holding out hope for Servo to pickup where Gecko left off.

I tried Servo earlier and it sort of works. Incorrect styling on even simple web HTML + CSS web pages. There's Kagi's Orion, but it's closed source, so arguably worse than everything else. I may check out Gemini and the Smolweb/Gemini protocol next, lol.

Any suggestions? I want

• uBlock
• sync to mobile

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and Lemmy?

More like mastodon.

Yeah, they don't show you the latest stuff if you're not logged in.

Using this alternative twitter frontend, you can see the post

https://lightbrd.com/...

covid broke his mind, moved over to texas once california demanded more safetry protocols, and taxes. bought X, originally tried to hype his own stocks, but he was forced to buy it. since nobody supported him he decided to go full nazi and support republicans instead, which resulted in him rigging the election.

Who's going to maintain an independent fork? It's a crazy amount of work.

Well, that position usually has a bunch of other responsibilities, too. But Firefox also doesn't have a natural monopoly like other browsers, so telling potential users that Firefox exists is kind of a crucial part of that whole endeavour. Don't need to build a browser, if no one uses it...

Try LibreWolf?

I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but ladybird browser is entering alpha sometime this year iirc

Screw it, besides Waterfox maybe I'll get good at using Lynx. Hahaha

I didn't expect Brave to be the one that offered a version completely free of AI, ads, and other sponsored stuff with Brave Origin. Free on Linux and paid on other operating systems.

librewolf; waterfox is good but not fully anti ai.

i like palemoon but has some issues with rendering modern sites :/

seamonkey is good with some of the same issues as palemoon

i wonder if "go fuck yourselves" is high on the list.

This has nothing to do with any of that. twitter is a fascist run fascist social media. You don't go there because you don't go hang out with fascists.

The thing that pisses me off is the fact that they demonstratively did move away from Twitter, acknowledging its usage as problematic, but now have changed their mind and provided a dumb non-explanation. Either way they've taken a dump on their own decision-making.

And that’s with a long A. Laaaaaaaady Birrrrrrrrrddddd.

First being? Genuinely curious if there is a good option I'm willing to give it a try

You’re not virtue signaling enough like the rest of the people.

Who the fuck cares where Mozilla decides to post, how does it even affect you?

You either don't use X and you will never see their posts, or you do use X in which case why is this even a problem?

Agree ! Dey all BIG (B-I-G) DUMMIEZZZ !!! LOL

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2. Relating to one of a pair of homologous chromosomes (also noun)

Well, turns out it is a word! Not the one you wanted though, which is "ambivalent".

That's a search engine (like Google Search and DuckDuckGo), not a browser (like Google Chrome and Firefox).

They have greenwashed AI baked in...

You'll talk to people who will only use this guy's website?

There's a whole internet including email, bro. You don't need the nazi bar.

We don't platform nazis and child sexual abuse image generation by adding engagement to twitter. Your comment ignores a lot of settled reality here.

There is a difference between a civil difference of opinion and what that place is. Either you know that and you ignore it or you're tuned out to the point that you're just not a serious person in this discussion

You must not be familiar with the 'moderation' on X.

Six retards downvoted a cop, guys, based purely on stimulus response. Not one of them thought there was a reason I said this to determine why I said it. Instant downvotes. Children downvoted me for protecting them. Yea, it is a thankless job. Good thing I'm a better human being than all of you. I grew up!

I use it to try and avoid chromium monopoly.

Which browser do you use?

Definitely not a non-issue to continue supporting an openly fascist social media. And especially declaring with proudness that they have returned.

It needs to be said...

Not all users are created equal, and users who are STILL in 2026 happily ignoring what's happening at X may be a source of money, but they also continue to show on a daily basis an appalling lack of judgement and principle which, if sought, will eventually bleed into the decision-making of the direction of the product. This is not "creating a bigger tent", this is "inviting in people who are going to change the very nature of the inside of the tent". It's not an overreaction OR unreasonable for users who choose to use Firefox SPECIFICALLY for its potential to provide an unenshittified alternative to Google's trash to see Firefox desperately trying to attract people cheering for the trash and decide they want out.

In the BEST case scenario, they fail to attract the new users and this is an embarrassing culdesac, but they've STILL significantly damaged their credibility with core users who know what this tactic is. And in the WORST, they GET a massive number of new users from the large numbers on X, and now the core Firefox users no longer have a say in the direction of the product - they've become a minority.

i mean users of firefox aren't really on twitter; very few people are actually on twitter. it's a niche social media platform made bigger because the dc pundit class circlejerks on it to pat themselves on the back.

In the context of mainstream social media, X is relatively small. The bigger problem is that most people on there are Nazis and are not interested in building an open web. Mastodon has only 1 Million MAU but gives a comparable reach if you compare the same posts made by FirefoxWebDevs on the latest Release:

X: https://xcancel.com/... (3 Comments, 9 Reposts, 98 Likes)

Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/... (4 Comments, 11 Reposts, 32 Likes)

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