What's that thing the internet insists you be outraged about but you just can't bring yourself to care?

22 days ago by gigastasio to c/asklemmy

Angryhumanoid 138 points 22 days ago

Steam. Apparently I'm supposed to be angry they are a locked down monopoly but compared to practically EVERY OTHER GAMING COMPANY IN THE WORLD they are frickin' saints.

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TabbsTheBat 44 points 22 days ago

Yeah, it's one of those things where one could argue that steam is successful in part to being entrenched (all of your friends are on steam and all of your games are on steam, so might as well continue using steam), but also.. other game launchers are just worse? The fact steam has a lot of useful features, as well as surprisingly few scummy incidents in its history just makes it not worth switching off for me :p

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Oni_eyes 20 points 22 days ago

Do other launchers have the workshop functionality to add mods directly from their launcher? That's been something I love about steam

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TabbsTheBat 11 points 22 days ago

All the ones I can think of are for individual games rather than general launchers lol. And third party mod launchers that you have to add your own games obtained elsewhere :p

For me steam input the big one that pulls me towards steam; seamless proton integration too, but that one I could handle losing, steam input on the other hand I think is one of the best input remappers out there, I even added all my non-steam games to steam to make use of it too haha

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Oni_eyes 3 points 22 days ago

I definitely have some games I need to use nexus mods for (looking at you stardew) but it's honestly such little hassle that I don't mind.

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northernlights 20 points 22 days ago

They've done so much for gaming on Linux I forgive them for having a convenient launcher that launches everything

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stoy 18 points 22 days ago

Yeah, I saw an article about Epic's CEO having a gormless rant about Steams AI filtering and how but Steam was for them.

All I could think was: "well, make a better product then"

GOG Galaxy is the only launcher / storefront that comes close to competing with Steam, and that is because the one thing they do better:

DRM-free games.

The rest is about equal or slightly worse.

If Epic looked at the customer base and analyzed what people wanted I am sure they could build a better platform than Steam, but with a CEO as unlikable as Epic's and with his trackrecord it would take many years of hard work and effort to even begin to come close to Steam.

It would probably take some massive PE/VC enforced changes at Valve where they start to enshittify Steam and the loss of confidence in the platform that will follow to make the other platforms competitive.

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EtnaAtsume 6 points 22 days ago

It would probably take some massive PE/VC enforced changes at Valve where they start to enshittify Steam and the loss of confidence in the platform that will follow to make the other platforms competitive.

Make no mistake, it's coming eventually. I held off on trusting discord for years buy finally they won me over. Now look where we are.

Never again.

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Jakeroxs 6 points 21 days ago

Valve has been around since 1996, Steam since 2003

Discord has been around since 2015 and was funded on VC money.

Kind of different situations lmao.

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urushitan 3 points 21 days ago

Sure, but once Gabe passes the torch it’s just a matter of if the person(s) getting it gets a big enough blank check to walk away from it

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stoy 5 points 21 days ago

I have decided to bite the sour apple, as we say in Sweden, and overpay for the last two hard drives for my NAS build to complete it, then I will grab every offline installer for my games I can find and keep a local copy.

32TB of storage that can loose two drives before any data loss, a solid start for backups, media and software.

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Nibodhika 1 point 21 days ago

and that is because the one thing they do better:

DRM-free games.

Which games are DRM free on GOG but not on Steam?

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stoy 1 point 21 days ago

When I say DRM free games, I mean those with a standalone installer containing the full game that can be downloaded for offline use.

If this is available on Steam, ai would be overjoyed

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Nibodhika 1 point 20 days ago

Installers are just fancy zipped folder. And AFAIK, all games that are DRM free on GoG are also DRM free on Steam. So you can download the game, zip the game data folder, copy it elsewhere, unzip it and play it there. I've done that with several games, in fact when I was trying to convince some friends to buy a game I did that so we could play it in lan with a single copy so they would try it and buy it so we could play it online later.

So, yeah, you can absolutely do that in Steam, which is why I never get the "oh, but GoG has DRM free games" appeal.

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UnfortunateShort 12 points 22 days ago

They don't have any monopoly. There are plenty alternatives and all are trash.

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the16bitgamer 10 points 21 days ago

I buy based on trust, and at this time, steam hasn’t lost it.

They’ve made their drm more lax over the years while Sony and microslop have worsened theirs. Like how you couldn’t easily play your games offline before steam deck.

Still buying my games from GOG first though.

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bridgeenjoyer 8 points 22 days ago

In comparison they are very good, however that can turn on a dime real damn quick.

Scenario: gaben ded, bilzzard exec buys steam and it goes public. Hello enshittification

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Crashumbc 4 points 20 days ago

This is exactly why I'll never own a house in a HOA, no matter how good the current board is....

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bridgeenjoyer 3 points 20 days ago

HOAs are hell. I'll never go near one.

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steelplatedmech 3 points 21 days ago

True, but every option comes down to a hypothetical scenario which does speak of how it is at a decent place.

And pc being an open hardware open OS system makes it so people can just hop to something, and have alternative means like piracy if worst comes to worse.

PC benefit in the end is control over hardware, the programs we can run on it, and modifications that can be done to it. Something that requires hoping for jailbreaks when it comes to consoles.

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BladeFederation 3 points 21 days ago

So? As opposed to what, a corporation that is impossible for someone bad to take over? That doesn't exist. Anything can happen at any time, but no use speculating about a 180 in policy. And they don't actually have a monopoly, people just love them so much that they but almost exclusively there. If Steam gets shitty, I will buy from a different PC game store.

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bridgeenjoyer 1 point 21 days ago

I'd argue they do have a monopoly. My friends don't know how to get a game if it isnt on steam. They are scared if I show them a game on a website to get (like armegatron).

I'm just saying, do not trust steam, make sure your games are truly DRM free, and be ready to pay subscription pricing for downloads and steam cloud saves. With server storage pricing being insane and gonna keep climbing, they can't keep giving you unlimited downloads and storage forever.

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BladeFederation 3 points 21 days ago

First one is a quintessential skill issue.

DRM free would improve Steam, I'm with you there. But if we're talking about theoretical enshittification, there is nothing to stop them from adding DRM to existing purchases. And then you'd have to had to make a backup of every exe you downloaded, and not care about cloud saves, etc...so I'm saying I get your point kinda but there isn't much point in speculating because services like that can always change unless the law prevents it. Which it SHOULD, but I'm not holding my breath. So all we can do is reward good behavior with how we spend money.

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THE_GR8_MIKE 7 points 22 days ago

Yeah, the only people actually upset at Steam are people who have money tied up in other platforms. Steam is nothing but good for normal consumers.

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AskewLord 7 points 22 days ago

yeah but they support linux gaming!

and if you don't use a linux PC to game, you're a stupid ignorant complacent fool who is destroying society.

or so I have been told like every other day on lemmy. owning a playstation or a switch is like ragebait to the user base here. apparently if i buy a switch i might as well support blowing up babies in gaza and mass rape as a genocidal tool, according to these folks.

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Angryhumanoid 5 points 22 days ago

Oh yeah that could be a whole different thread on here. I use Windows and Linux, I would love it if I could rid myself of Windows completely but Linux is not there, and I kinda doubt it will even be a total replacement for Windows. It's worth remembering Windows didn't become the monolith that it is for no reason, people wanted 1 application that could easily do... Well everything without needing a lot of manual fine-tuning. That ain't Linux.

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AskewLord 2 points 22 days ago

i don't even PC game anymore because it's just not worth the headache. i also work on a PCs all day at work, so I want to sit on my couch to play games and not sit in front of a monitor for more hours of the day.

And the reply is always 'you are a retard then'. Yes, clearly, I am.

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Grimy 9 points 22 days ago

There's no headache with PC gaming, this isn't the 90s. You can plug a computer into a tv and use a controller.

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rain_worl 2 points 21 days ago

windows became a monolith because of sabotage. and then! the network effect. microsoft is actively trying to sabotage linux, and they've got internal documents stating that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents (the actual link is not loading)
microsoft doing monopolistic anticompetitive FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) practices dates back at least to 1992: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code (yeah... i found out about this from a youtube video.....)
and when was clippit (colloquially, clippy) introduced? ... 1996. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_97)
thus, using a clippy pfp is stupid. q.e.d.

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steelplatedmech 3 points 21 days ago

Linux becoming more user friendly and accessible is a plus though for individuals who like diy PCs, but stuck with Windows due to game support. Compared to then and now moving away from Microsoft is less of a hassle. That is pretty huge for long time Windows PC gamers. Not just for gaming, but regular usage of computers.

From the sounds of it you dont like pc gaming in general, and that is fine. Do hope you can see how a non corporate OS alternative is a win though. Just having an option that is not a huge downgrade to a trillion dollar backed OS is amazing.

You are on the fediverse after all which is an alternative from company run social media like reddit. Which also has its ups and downs when it comes to accessibility much like PC gaming, but there are similar pros to it too that some giving it a chance.

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AskewLord 1 point 21 days ago

please lecture me more about how ignorant I am.

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steelplatedmech 2 points 20 days ago

Um... Lecture lecture lecture.

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Oni_eyes 1 point 22 days ago

I mean, I have a switch from like 8 years ago and while I enjoy it for the mobile gaming while on long flights I wouldn't buy a new one after all the shit Nintendo keeps pulling. I don't know which other handheld would be a good alternative, so I don't really throw shade at people buying new ones but I would like the company to hurt a bit.

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MalMen 0 points 22 days ago

@Oni_eyes @AskewLord I use the steam deck for the same porpose. I bought a xbox few years ago to play read dead 2, the onlything that could probably make me buy another console would be gtav, and even there I already decided that im gonna wait for a version that works on linux or otherwise just gonna emulate it few years from now

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Oni_eyes 1 point 22 days ago

If I didn't already like palworld I would buy it just to hate on Nintendo more, but that's just me.

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driving_crooner -3 points 22 days ago

I would argue that is the other way around?

"The internet" in general keep arguing that steam dominant position is not relevant, while they forbid any dev to sell their game on other plataforms for less (don't even mention the steam keys because they are not part of the equation)

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blartcap_ 1 point 21 days ago

That's a pretty standard retail agreement clause that's been around for decades before digital distribution. It's not unique to Steam at all, letalone them doing it uniquely.

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driving_crooner 0 points 21 days ago

And is abuse of dominant position when you control +80% of the market.

If a dev want a profit of 10us for game sold, it's has to sell as 13us on steam. But if I open a marketplace and only charge 10% they could sell it for 12, getting a better margin selling for less, but they can't if they want to use steam too. That affect players because cheaper options are not available, affect devs because they have less option, affect other stores because they can grow up competing on price.

And that's only possible because of Steam dominant position, because steam can strongarm devs into getting the same price as their competitors without reducing their 30% slice.

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blartcap_ 1 point 21 days ago

Again, this is a standard retail clause that has existed long before Steam. It would apply no matter what combination of retailers they choose to sell at because they all have this. This is why digital games are sold at the same price as physical copies when they cost less to distribute: the brick and mortar retailers have this same clause.

There's no good reason to treat this like a Steam-specific thing. Every retailer has such a clause, big or small. This entire idea is based on a frivolous class action suit that is not going anywhere because it's launched on the shaky grounds of the belief that Steam exclusively uses the MFN clause and that they think a 30% cut is too much.

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Grimy -10 points 22 days ago

"What's something the internet constantly gives a free pass to and simps for but should enrage people" wasn't the question. The internet is overall much more a defender of steam than the opposite.

The downvotes are kind of proving me right lol.

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Angryhumanoid 15 points 22 days ago

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blartcap_ 4 points 21 days ago

This would be the comment I would write if I was promoted to respond like the most stereotypical reddit gamer possible.

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Fluke 3 points 21 days ago

The fact you have so much rage over that is amusing me greatly, I thought you should know.

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Grimy 0 points 21 days ago

Look at all the comments that came to steams defense. And yours, trying to like tease me? Lol.

You might think I'm wrong when I say there isn't much difference between steam and the others, but I'm not wrong when I say Steam is the internets darling. You're here literally proving me right, thank you for letting me know about it.

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imeansurewhynot 104 points 22 days ago

Reddit. They were irritating, so I left, but I couldn't care less if someone posts content here from teddit or(apparently gods forbid) mentions reddit.

I do not care about whatever happens with that company any more than I care about Apple or McDonald's or any other company with shitty products I don't engage with.

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LordFireCrotch 33 points 22 days ago

My only issue is the bots that mirror reddit content over.

And it's not that it's from reddit that bothers me, none of the posts I've seen ever have any engagement. So it feels like spam.

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cattywampas 10 points 22 days ago

It's much better in the smaller more focused communities, which is reddits best use case anyway.

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HubertManne 2 points 21 days ago

I mean if it is a community for reddit reposting or other social media its not so bad because you just block communities your not interested in.

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imeansurewhynot 1 point 22 days ago

totally, i manuelly block nearly any account that posts more than three things in one hour

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AskewLord 8 points 22 days ago

i just block the people here who just spam content from reddit 50 times a day. and it's always the shittiest ragebait, and if you point it out, they go apeshit on you and harass you and report you and call you a facist/nazi etc.

then tend to be really dumb people who are true believers that post ragebait is 'fighting the good fight'.

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imeansurewhynot 1 point 22 days ago

me too, i manually black them all.

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Aeri 2 points 15 days ago

Dude, Lemmy is literally Reddit Junior nobody using this website has a leg to stand on complaining about stuff from Reddit making its way here LOL.

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imeansurewhynot 1 point 15 days ago

Doesn't seem like it, Between the slower growth rate, lack of profit motive, decentralization and community funded instances, people act much more decently here. Reddit was pretty impotent-ragey from the get-go without a way to tune out the bigots. On lemmy, places like hexbear are easily exiled. Womensstuff has bigots, i blocked them, done.

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FartsWithAnAccent 76 points 22 days ago

Trans people: I don't care which sportball team you play on or what bathroom you use, just wash your hands when you're done.

Whatever is in your pants is none of my business unless you're trying to make it my business (in which case, I'm flattered, but in a monogamous relationship, sorry).

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AmyAye 18 points 21 days ago

This should be the baseline bottom, but somehow its not. If you care or not or think its "wrong", just keep it to yourself because Trans people are not harming anyone.

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Zarobi 13 points 21 days ago

I have met 4 Trans people in my entire life, and they are just normal kind people. They're not cheating at sports, or being weird in bathrooms, or anything people are fearmongering; they just want to live their life comfortable in their bodies

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BladeFederation 9 points 21 days ago

I'm with you on this, but I'm also against the opposite: the blind praise and promotion of being trans for some reason. Look, if you have something wired in your brain different that makes you present as another gender, go ahead. Present yourself how you want, I can't imagine why I'd give much of a shit. It's a free country. But why do people have to constantly yap and take over every non right wing chud internet space to make it about being trans or related like talking about how hot femboys are. It's like...I mean honestly? A trend. And something major and life changing like that shouldn't be a trend. I'm sorry but that is dumb. Have your own spaces where you can talk about your own issues, sure. Don't be afraid to mention it in other spaces, sure. I'm cool with that. But maybe don't take over everyone else's spaces and make everything about you. Being annoying on purpose just doesn't work in your favor.

Also related, if psychologists and such agree that the best way to treat gender dysphoria is hormones, that's cool. But like maybe don't push socialized treatment for that so hard when we have literally nothing else socialized in healthcare. Priorities, you know? People are dying, every day, and cosmetic appearance for something a lot of people find weird and off putting is too easy of a target to keep healthcare terrible. I'm not saying it's right, but you have to pick your battles sometimes. Just like if you want to make someone not racist towards black people, maybe show them something like jazz or soul first, not hip hop. Is hip hop art? Absolutely, one of my favorite genres. But it's going to be an immediate turnoff if you jump to bad language and drug dealing and bitches and the other rap tropes. Should you have to cater to someone racist or transphobic? No, but that's the world we live in. Everyone gets to vote. and everyone starts somewhere with understanding people different than themselves.

Trans rights are human rights in the sense that you should be free to look and present how you want and not be harassed about it. But that doesn't mean you get to have everything you want, for free, and everyone has to not only treat and react to you exactly how you imagined it in your head, but also praise you for being different. That's not how the world works, for anything.

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Katana314 8 points 21 days ago

I definitely understand the annoyance, but I let it go because I understand how “Pride” works as a concept.

Bigots and Nazis need to feel “popular”, like they live in a world of their making. One of the biggest weapons against them is showing how unpopular they are. The day that they make an offhand crass comment, and the whole room turns against them.

Pride moments, raising trans positivity unwarranted, are meant to trap and push out those mentalities; keep reminding hateful bigots that “You are not welcome. Cut it out.”

Where it gets tricky is for the many people who are fine with it and don’t care, but just get gradually annoyed. I’m partly there, but I also understand that Trans people have put up with enough of the world’s shit that they’re allowed to vent back for a generation or so at all the baseless hate.

Priority in socialized healthcare is a tricky fight. Everyone wants their cause supported, when really all of them should be. The infighting is based around fear, and not entirely unwarranted, so I don’t have easy answers.

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BladeFederation 0 points 21 days ago

I think this is well said. You should be proud to be who you are, and sometimes bigots need a reality check, but it gets to a point where it is counter productive. I remember a few years ago when people were upset about the Proud Boys militia, and leftists made memes about gay dudes wearing banana hammocks being our "proud boys" because of gay pride. And, uh...no. First, it's just not funny, so it fails as a meme. Second, being gay does not make you the representative of leftist/progressive ideals, I'm sorry. And third, I don't particularly want to see a dude's dick imprint on my home page either, please stop.

Granted, I am in more leftist spaces than most people, but I see the trans flag more than any flag, even the US flag. Even during the world cup where every country was patriotic, I still saw more trans flag spam than anything else. And that is absolutely ridiculous to me, especially for a cause such as being trans, whose identity is generally "I want to be seen as the other gender and I'd prefer people don't make a big deal about it", not "my identity is being trans and I will never let you stop thinking about what's in my pants".

I hear you with healthcare but in most cases, "my cause or your cause" is the same cause, even if it doesn't specifically apply to you. If life saving medicine is free, we all win, period. Nobody is like "fuck people with type 1 diabetes, my tax dollars shouldn't go to them getting insulin which would be negligibly cheap in a socialized system" unless they're just vehemently anti-socialized medicine in general. Trans "healthcare" is, ultimately, not health related, it is cosmetic surgery or changing your body for cosmetic reasons. Mental health related? Arguable, and I do agree that it is personally. But VERY arguable, and not a lot of people support it. So leading the charge on socialized medicine by making it about trying to psy-op people into thinking "trans rights=human rights, and trans rights=access to expensive treatment paid by tax dollars" only hurts everyone by being an easy scapegoat. Not to mention the whole related psy-op of trying to convince people being trans, particularly "girldick" is hot in porn and whatnot, which is a whole other can of worms. Trying to trick people with thinly veiled propaganda is not the move if you're trying to start a serious movement. And it makes the trans movement, which is already polarizing and on shaky ground, come off to outsiders like a fetish, ESPECIALLY if you don't personally know a trans person and only see what's online. Which is a lot of people, since trans people are like 1% of the population, Trump is president so it is not popular to come out, and many trans people i didn't know were trans until years of knowing them, because once again, the idea is to be quietly accepted as the other gender. Which makes all the trans spam even more perplexing. Who is actually posting all of this? LARPers? Well meaning supporters? Russian trolls trying to flanderize the movement?

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isleepinahammock 2 points 20 days ago

Trans “healthcare” is, ultimately, not health related, it is cosmetic surgery or changing your body for cosmetic reasons.

In the same way someone getting their face reconstructed after a brutal car accident is "cosmetic." Both are ultimately about making people comfortable in their skin.

Trans care saves lives. It saved mine. I don't know what kind of monster can look at a 41% suicide attempt rate, look at the only care proven to massively reduce those rates, and then try to trivialize that care. Trans health care is one single most effective classes of medical care in modern medicine. Gender reassignment surgery has far better long term outcomes than knee replacements.

As for why there are so many trans people on Lemmy. Most of us left other spaces, often to get away from enlightened centrists who see our lives, healthcare, and civil rights as privileges to be granted if it's politically convenient.

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baggachipz 3 points 21 days ago

Couldn’t agree more.

It's like...I mean honestly? A trend.

This is the thing that really bothers me. So many kids claiming to be “trans”, when they are very clearly going through common teenage rebellion/finding themselves. It does a disservice to those who really do have gender dysmorphia. The conservative “anti-trans” crowd can point to this and say “see, they’re all just being weird”.

And sure, there are kids who really are that way. My old ass thinks they should wait until they’re actually adults to go messing about with their hormones. That shit is permanent and they’re still developing. They can live as another gender in the meantime, no reason to stop that. But at least make the body modification decision as an adult.

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AA5B 7 points 21 days ago

My only real interest in this as a controversy, is bringing back single use bathrooms open to all would be nicer for all of us while leaving this outrage nowhere to go

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Patchwork 4 points 21 days ago

All I really care about is that there's a toilet that aligns with my plumbing when I need to pee

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fyzzlefry 2 points 20 days ago

Ill keep this train going. I don't care about sports, much less who is playing them.

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_haha_oh_wow_ 1 point 20 days ago

It's all a plot to steal my toilet paper! I'm onto you, trans dudes.

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grandel 1 point 21 days ago

Upvote for username

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neidu3 72 points 22 days ago

Star Trek vs Star Wars. I like both.

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P1nkman 17 points 22 days ago

Blasphemy!

Sincerely, someone who does not watch either.

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probable_possum 13 points 22 days ago

Wait. They are two different things?

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Lumidaub 7 points 21 days ago

Let me blow your mind: Stargate is a third.

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rottenmummy 3 points 20 days ago

Stiens;Gate is fourth

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AskewLord 7 points 22 days ago

yeah but how do you feel about their bastardization in the past decade?

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cattywampas 24 points 22 days ago

It's worth pointing out that this comment could have been and was made in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and today.

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AskewLord 3 points 22 days ago

so TNG and DS9 were awful and terrible or something?

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dual_sport_dork 13 points 22 days ago

What, you weren't there for the incessant "Kirk is better than Picard" bickering that basically formed the backbone of the early Internet circa 1990?

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cattywampas 5 points 22 days ago

There were people at the time who certainly thought so.

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neidu3 2 points 22 days ago

As with everything else, the franchises have both undergone a shift of quantity over quality, so I haven't bothered keeping up to date with either.

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BurgerBaron 2 points 22 days ago

More like less quantity at a lower quality.

DS9 had 26 episode seasons.

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polysexualstick 1 point 20 days ago

Idk, I think Andor was one of the best things the Star Wars franchise has ever created while especially Episode II is borderline unwatchable to me.

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cattywampas 1 point 22 days ago
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spittingimage 1 point 22 days ago

The thing about that is, regardless of how we feel about the new stuff, we'll always have the old stuff we loved.

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AskewLord 1 point 21 days ago

will we? i mean look at the OG trilogy.

that said, we are finally getting the theatrical version of Star Wars next year... after not having it for 30 years. completely nonsense that was. it will be nice to have the OG OG trilogy again w/o the stupid CGI crap.

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Angryhumanoid 2 points 22 days ago

This is the way.

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CombatWombat 70 points 22 days ago

It's more that the internet demands that I'm constantly outraged, but I want to spend the majority of my time being chill and happy. I can get my dander up for most things the internet wants me to be mad about, I just... don't.

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AskewLord 10 points 22 days ago

that makes them angry though.

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BladeFederation 7 points 21 days ago

Rage bait is the worst internet trend to date. Yeah yeah, I know trolling always existed, but it was actually funny sometimes, done to bait assholes or uppity people usually, and done for the love of the game. Rage bait is just doing something out if pocket or legitimately bad just to get eyeballs on you which now translates to free money for them because the world is a fucked up place that rewards people with no principles now. My wife just saw a TikTok video where some jackass stuck his hand down his pants and the rubbed his hand on his toddler's face. What the actual fuck are we doing, humanity?

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canthangmightstain 3 points 21 days ago

It got monetized. Read up on a Google published white paper “Attention is all you Need” from 2017 and you’ll understand how it all went to shit so quickly.

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BladeFederation 1 point 21 days ago

Yeah. Not too difficult to see how we got here. How to get OUT of this hellhole, however, that's the real question...

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canthangmightstain 1 point 20 days ago

IMO people will come around. Not quickly and not without a bunch of good things about the internet dying off… but eventually an equilibrium will be reached.

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bluGill 4 points 22 days ago

I stopped using Facebook because I got tired of all of that. "You won't believe what [other party] is doing"...

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Mac 3 points 21 days ago

I wonder if Palestinians just want to be chill and happy

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canthangmightstain 3 points 21 days ago

The Holocaust. Khmer Rouge. The Rape of Nanjing. Global Warming.

See? Words are easy.

It isn’t that people don’t care enough, it’s that they only have so much to go around and there is no cause so important that you get to dictate someone else’s state of mind 24/7 just because you say tragic words. Keep the fire burning but don’t think you get to sneer at others just because they’re burned out at the moment.

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CombatWombat 3 points 21 days ago

I would be much more persuaded by this argument if someone could draw a connection between my internal experience of anger and a Palestinian's internal experience of being chill and happy. Do donations made in anger count double or something?

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Fizz 65 points 21 days ago

Firefox purity testing. Oh no they ran an ad or made a post on a mainstream platform or developed a widget. Look at the state of the world this is such a non issue and compared to the other browsers out there they are fighting the good fight unequivocally.

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nullspace 10 points 21 days ago

I'm glad someone said this. I don't have two fucks to give about Firefox's marketing department marketing their browser.

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MrsDoyle 4 points 21 days ago

I had to lol at Firefox today, it wouldn't let me log into my modem because it was DANGEROUS. Awwww. Lucky I have Librefox as well, it lets me play with matches and drink puddle water.

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WhyJiffie 5 points 21 days ago

librewolf but also any flavor of chrome should show the same warning for self signed certs, for the first time. check it in a private window of librewolf

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ggtdbz 3 points 21 days ago

Especially with the World Cup stuff that you can turn off with two clicks. Everyone and their dog watches football, this is the single most uncontroversial thing the nerd browser can add to appeal to new people

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Valmond 2 points 20 days ago

Like ProtonVPN whos ceo once praised the appointement of some judge who had done good things before (anti big corpo something IIRC), but he was appointed by trump.

Yeah, not super duper smart there, but years and years and years of fantastic experience? Worthless I guess.

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FlashMobOfOne -19 points 21 days ago

Yup.

Brave is a better product.

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_haha_oh_wow_ 1 point 20 days ago

The fuck it is, have a downvote.

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FlashMobOfOne 2 points 20 days ago

I'll take it. Have a Happy Friday, friend.

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dream_weasel 1 point 21 days ago

I haven't tried ff recently, but for a long time it was chromium based browsers or bust. Don't turn on the crypto ad crap and it works just fine.

I still have ff installed but it's almost exclusively used for "have you tried accessing our page on a different browser?" support.

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FlashMobOfOne 1 point 21 days ago

Yeah, the crypto stuff is opt-in, as is their AI-tool. I appreciate that they aren't mandatory.

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ToiletFlushShowerScream 60 points 22 days ago

Usually anything to do with celebrity drama. While it's not that common on Lemmy, the rest of the pop internet seems infatuated with what actor/musician threw shade or dissed some other, or which diva is being treated SO unfairly...

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AskewLord 4 points 22 days ago

those are the same people who cause all the drama in their own lives.

they love the celebrity stuff because it validates their own misery and poor choices. they view themselves as the poorly treated diva.

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velma -3 points 22 days ago

A lot of celebrity gossip is rooted in the true crime aspect of it. Like the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives drama - one of the women was literally throwing metal barstools at her children while fighting with her partner. The outrage stems from people wanting her held accountable in some form. And the networks know that outrage will spur more views.

I don't see it any different than indulging in sports gossip or even Fediverse related gossip (Tesseract incident, anyone?). People like to indulge in some judgment and outrage at others. It can be unhealthy, but mostly I think it's a rather neutral, human thing to do.

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FlashMobOfOne 53 points 21 days ago

Cultural appropriation.

So... You're offended. People are living out of their cars now. I'm more worried about that.

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AwesomeLowlander 12 points 20 days ago

Also, the person being offended usually isn't even from the target culture. They're being vicariously offended on behalf of somebody else, when the actual members of that culture usually dgaf or like it.

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isleepinahammock 9 points 20 days ago

Don't get me started on "Latinx."

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Witchfire 1 point 15 days ago

Oh I'll happily get started on that one. I'm latina. Latinos very rarely use latinx because it can't be fucking pronounced in Spanish. If you must use a neutral version, latine is more common.

My understanding is that it was originally created in I think Puerto Rico?, but quickly got picked up and pushed by non-Hispanic (mainly white) people. To put it in perspective, 4% of the US Hispanic population uses it (2024)

Don't use latinx

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FlashMobOfOne 2 points 20 days ago

You're not wrong.

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Assassassin 51 points 21 days ago

Taylor Swift. Like, I get that billionaires are a problem, and her carbon footprint is huge. On the list of problematic billionaires, I feel like she really doesn't do that much problematic shit compared to the others.

Musk is a Nazi that gutted the US govt, Ellison has a laundry list of major issues, bezos is killing small businesses and bought a news company to whitewash himself, gates was involved with Epstein and did some shady shit to grow Microsoft, the waltons single handedly massacred thousands (millions?) of small businesses with anticompetitive practices.

I really don't think that Swift rises remotely close to the same level of degeneracy and existential threat that these guys do, yet the only other billionaire I see getting criticised as much as her is Musk.

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XeroxCool 11 points 21 days ago

"Yes, but have you considered the fact that she is a woman, women enjoy her music, and women enjoying things is a problem because they're wrong? It's like you don't even have a vendetta against pumpkin spice! " - general underlying factor

"her music is not deep" - the opinion of men whose only exposure to her music is the pop songs that gets airtime, not the lyrical depths of the rest of the album that directly hits women in the feels

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Assassassin 6 points 21 days ago

On the first point: yeah, I didn't even want to get into the underlying sexism that drives the critique lol.

On the second: yeah, she made a billion dollars on her music. If you want to appeal to that wide of an audience, you're going to need to pump out some generic shit, at least on occasion. It's not really a great criticism of her, because that's her main skill. She can throw together 10 somewhat specific songs to cater to the fan base, then 2 tracks that get massive airtime and hook more people into the fan base. She's literally the best at it by the numbers.

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Crashumbc 2 points 20 days ago

She's by far out striped every other performer ever in marketing her "brand" and general business sense.

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XeroxCool 2 points 20 days ago

No different than Lady Gaga's method which I feel took off a little sooner. The pop funds the art. I appreciate Swift's singing ability, but I enjoy Gaga's range when she makes her actual music. The theatrics, peaking with the meat suit? Just marketing to make her name the name to invite.

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AA5B 3 points 21 days ago

Was about to downvote, before I looked at the community. This is not an unpopular opinion

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cattywampas 45 points 22 days ago

Sony discontinuing physical media.

I haven't bought a physical game for any platform in I don't even know how many years and I doubt I ever will again.

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zaphod 37 points 22 days ago

I think I wrote this in a few hundred comments already. It's a little weird people make it about physical games, it's not really about that, physical games are dead on PC, barely anyone cares. It's about Sony locking people into the Playstation Store and having full control over prices. With physical copies you can buy them wherever you want and they usually go down in price relatively quickly after release. Digital store prices remain high for years after release and only drop sometimes during sales, but even then they drop to the level of physical copies. The other issue are used games, at the moment that only works with physical copies.

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kbobabob 7 points 22 days ago

I think it's more about access. There's a lot of countries that rely on physical media because the online store doesn't exist for them.

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cattywampas 0 points 22 days ago

That doesn't bother me. If a price is higher than I want to pay, I'll just not pay it and go play something else. There's so much more gaming out there than anybody could ever have time to get through in a hundred lifetimes.

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gigastasio 8 points 22 days ago

Same here. In fact I own almost no physical media anymore except for a few rare CD’s and vinyl. All my games are digital.

The argument that this damages the preowned game market is valid to a point. Though anymore any time I shop for preowned games they’re close enough in price to new games that I don’t see the point. And if that level of greed has infiltrated that market, maybe it deserves to die.

I know someone is going to yell at me about that but that’s kinda how I see it.

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AskewLord 4 points 22 days ago

tbf i buy physical mostly because it's cheaper than digital. typically a big realse will get a 50% discount on the physical while it's only getting like 20% on digital stores.

esp for AAA and AA games. typically only for indie titles is the physical more expensive.

I do think that once they get rid of physical you will no longer being seeing massive discounts on digital games. or you might see stuff where new releases come out at triple digit prices.

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steelplatedmech 2 points 21 days ago

How many music streaming services and digital downloads of mp3 and flacs remain playable on only certain hardware?

The music digital space is much more open than console games, which will only work on very specific hardware. And DRM free downloads. Music is one space that is surprisingly pro consumer when it comes to compatibility and control of purchases.

If consoles were as open as PCs, being able to install any OS and programs on it then physical shift would be less of an issue on consoles. Consoles are so locked down they can get away with paywalling multiplayer, and even jailbreak can't really bypass that.

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dual_sport_dork 6 points 22 days ago

You don't care because you don't buy physical games. I don't care because I resolved not to give Sony a single red cent ever again some time in about 2005. We are not the same.

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DamienGramatacus 3 points 21 days ago

Same but it's also about game preservation which is threatened with this decision.

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Angryhumanoid 3 points 22 days ago

I agree with it in principle, particularly for the people who want that physical copy (my kids are big on nostalgic media) but yeah, I've been going pure digital for a long time.

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Zos_Kia 1 point 21 days ago

I think my latest physical purchase was the orange box some 20 years ago. And that was only because I was abroad and it was stupid cheap.

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spittingimage 42 points 22 days ago

The moral failings of celebrities and creators who've been dead for decades.

Save your outrage for things that are happening now, that you still have a chance to change.

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velma 7 points 22 days ago

Being interested in celebrity gossip is not mutually exclusive to caring about politics or more meaningful things, but I understand why people don't care about celebrity gossip.

I see this a lot here and it's curious! Because would you say the same about other hobbies? That they're a waste of energy because that could be applied to changing things now?

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spittingimage 13 points 22 days ago

I'm specifically talking about dead celebrities. People like to point out that HP Lovecraft was racist, Gary Gygax was sexist and Clark Gable was fascist. All true and well-known, but it's much too late to change their minds about it. Whereas racism, sexism and fascism are going on outside our windows right now and can still be affected.

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velma 7 points 22 days ago

Ahh I did miss that you meant specifically dead celebrities. Fair enough! Thanks for clarifying!

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mriormro 1 point 21 days ago

I wouldn’t make the argument that politics is a hobby first.

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velma 3 points 21 days ago

I didn’t, I compared being interested in celebrity gossip to other hobbies.

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mriormro 2 points 21 days ago

Ah, my apologies, I misread your comment and somehow conflated the two.

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early_riser 40 points 22 days ago

I love Tolkien. I don't like what Amazon did with Rings of Power, but I just didn't watch it, simple as that. That's how the free market works. People make a sucky product. You don't buy the sucky product, they stop making the sucky product. And if they don't stop making the sucky product, you make your own hopefully less sucky product. I don't have the energy to complain about it online.

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AmyAye 12 points 21 days ago

I'll do you one better.

I like Tolkien, and I like Rings of Power. No its not a perfect adaptation, but its fine. Its better than those god awful Hobbit movies.

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Zarobi 7 points 21 days ago

I liked the Hobbit movies lol

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OddDeer 5 points 21 days ago

The M4's Hobbit version has vastly improved my opinion of the Hobbit movie(s). I now include it in my yearly LOTR marathon.

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Simon_Shitewood 1 point 20 days ago

I watched it, but honestly it's still far, far too much for just the Hobbit. 4 hours, I think? I'm pretty sure I could just read the book in that time.

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early_riser 4 points 21 days ago

The writers couldn't have made anything good out of what little they were licensed to use, IMO.

But the main complaint online, that Galadriel is abrasive and bossy, doesn't gel with me because that's literally part of her character growth. I'm too lazy to look up the exact passage in the Silmarillion, but the reason she joined the Noldor's exodus out of Aman was to set herself up as a ruler. By the time the Fellowship meets her in LOTR she's thousands of years wiser.

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NottaLottaOcelot 2 points 21 days ago

I strongly dislike when a single book is turned into multiple movies. You get 1-2 movies of nothing but set-up and trying to turn minor events into a climax, then one manic movie of nothing but climax

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AstralPath 6 points 22 days ago

My personal annoyance is with the hubris required to think you can write LOTR lore better than Tolkien. All the money in the history of the universe couldn't facilitate that. Amazon sucks.

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FlashMobOfOne 3 points 21 days ago

YES.

I wish more people could understand that you can just... not consume something. You not liking it doesn't make it bad and it doesn't make other people inferior for enjoying it.

Just scroll on.

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glimse 36 points 21 days ago

Pineapple on pizza. I don't even like it that much but holy shit, shut the fuck up about it. You must have zero personality if you think it bring it up

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axx 5 points 21 days ago

Yes! It's not great, it's not terrible, it really doesn't matter anymore. It was funny 20 years ago. Let it go already.

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AwesomeLowlander 2 points 20 days ago

You gotta admit though, those videos about Italians being scandalised by the sight of it are pretty hilarious

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glimse 2 points 20 days ago

Eh, fake outrage doesn't really do it for me

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JargonWagon 1 point 20 days ago

You just brought it up lol

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glimse 2 points 20 days ago

I'm not outraged at its existence so that's not really relevant

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Triumph 24 points 22 days ago

Stop killing games. I'm not saying it's a bad or wrong stance, just that there are so many other way more important things taking up all my fucks that I'm all out of fucks for that one.

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kubica 25 points 22 days ago

I think it would have been a good first start for other good things to happen. Not necessarily related to games but to digital content in general. It bothers me that something gathered so many signatures to adhere the "official" ways, and yet it was not listened anyway.

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RumorsOfLove 4 points 22 days ago

naivety to think we live in some kind of democracy

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THE_GR8_MIKE 21 points 22 days ago

Almost any single thing about movies or shows. I don't consume either and literally could not care less about any of it. Double whammy with superhero stuff.

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Zarobi 3 points 21 days ago

What entertainment do you consume if you avoid all movies and shows? I don't watch much myself either, but I still do on occasion

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FreshParsnip 3 points 21 days ago

Maybe they just watch shows passively, like my grandmother does. She watches Murder She Wrote, Judge Judy, Jeopardy, but she doesn't really care about any of those shows and doesn't really absorb what she watches.

Or maybe they mainly read books or play video games or just don't consume entertainment at all

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THE_GR8_MIKE 2 points 21 days ago

It's the second one, video games. I much prefer to play something than watch something, unless I am actively doing something where I cannot play a game, such as eating. But then it's Youtube over any sort of Hollywood thing.

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THE_GR8_MIKE 2 points 21 days ago

Video games. I would much rather control what I am viewing on screen. It's not even about actively engaging my mind, I just much prefer to play something than watch something. I do watch things while I eat, but that is solely YouTube and mostly from creators who seem like normal people rather than anything with a big budget.

Similarly, I absolutely will not sit there and watch a Twitch stream either. I much prefer to play my own thing.

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Iconoclast 21 points 22 days ago

It's rare for me to be outraged by anything. I'm capable of not liking things while not being emotionally captured by them.

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Angryhumanoid 14 points 22 days ago

That is a rational and emotionally stable world view. And I hate it. Where's the emotional outrage?! The uncontrollable urge to bash your head against the wall? The yelling at innocent strangers on the internet?! TELL ME!

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catfeeder 7 points 22 days ago

Name checks out

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Angryhumanoid 4 points 22 days ago

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Taleya 14 points 21 days ago

"Shitlibs"

Weird fuckin' american paradigm. I've simultaneously been called a shitlib, a tankie, a communist and a capitalist. Piss.

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_haha_oh_wow_ 2 points 20 days ago

The more someone throws around words like "socialist" or "lib" as an insult pretty but invariably can't even define socialism or liberalism, never mind articulate what about them they dislike.

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Taleya 1 point 19 days ago

there are definitely people who treat political labels like religion. Usually from a religious background, they dropped the faith but keep the framework for familiarity. You see it over and over and over again. Politics, fandom, Queer identities...they will be left, but they can't let go of that absolutely punitive purity politicking.

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inb4_FoundTheVegan 14 points 20 days ago

Pizza tastes great. Pineapples taste great. The math solves itself.

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Thebeardedsinglemalt 3 points 20 days ago

I don't eat Hawaiian pizza because of the pineapple. It's because I don't like ham. Pineapple is great

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janewaydidnothingwrong 1 point 20 days ago

If you havent, you should try my favorite 2 topping combo which is pepperoni and pineapple.

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amgine 2 points 20 days ago

Or jalapeño and pineapple

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janewaydidnothingwrong 1 point 20 days ago

Oh yeah, that's a great one too

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tacotroubles 13 points 22 days ago

The trend is dying out but, I never understood the labubu hate. It seems like the people who hate them dont even hate the worst aspect of labubus; blind box gambling. I just couldnt seem to find the rational of visceral reaction to a doll.

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amio 8 points 22 days ago

Meh, yet another influencerslop fad advertising to children, with gambling in it? Can sort of see their point, personally.

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luthis 5 points 22 days ago

I had no idea what they were until someone explained it to me. They are fucking ugly as fuck.

I remember many toys had a mystery aspect to them, but i guess they were a bit cheaper too

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tacotroubles 4 points 22 days ago

Yeah they're not my style either for sure, but taste is unfortunately entirely subjective. Lol

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steelplatedmech 2 points 21 days ago

I found out through South Park. I thought it was a knock off pokemon satire they made.

Not using tiktok and similar socials has me missing out on lot of stuff like that. And being less in the know about what influencers are pushing.

I was so amazed how something so big didn't reach me when it's not like I dont use the internet and was using social media like reddit.

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Ziglin 1 point 21 days ago

I never cared enough to inform myself about but I thought they were just overpriced. Good to know that it's worse than I thought.

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RodgeGrabTheCat 13 points 21 days ago

What a CEO or founder of a company does off the clock. Brave, Mozilla, Mullvad, Proton, GrapheneOS - I just don't care. If I picked a product off of the CEO not being a dick, I wouldnt have any products or services to use.

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I_Has_A_Hat 2 points 20 days ago

The Brave one is hilarious because no one bothers to look into it. If they did, they would be embarrassed by how big of a deal they make of it. In like 2009, the current CEO made a one-time, $1000 donation to an anti-prop 8 campaign.

That's it.

No donations to any groups since.

Brave wasn't even a thing when he did it.

He's also the same guy who created JavaScript, yet no one seems to have an issue using that.

Just a giant game of telephone where people hate someone because they were told they should hate them.

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FRYD 13 points 21 days ago

Most things. The internet is a rage factory these past few years. I got enough real things to be upset about.

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Sv443 12 points 20 days ago

Sam Altman says "...", Tim Sweeney is against "..."

I scroll past a headline like that every single day.

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NewNewAugustEast 12 points 21 days ago

Sony not making physical discs.

You people think Sony anything was worth buying in the first place?

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hexagonwin 5 points 21 days ago

ik proprietary shitware and all that stuff but there are good games for playstation. fun to play, no pay to win bs like mobile phone games these days

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mursejoy 3 points 20 days ago

Astrobot alone made the purchase worth it. We had more fun playing that game than anything exclusive on Xbox in the last 3 years. Truly a magnificent game. We own both, play both, and enjoy both.

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treadful 2 points 21 days ago

For me, physical media in general. Modern software is not static. It's too complex. Asking for a bug-free game is basically impossible, so you need a way to update it.

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Katana314 2 points 21 days ago

I have long agreed the fight for game preservation and access has been important, but I’ll admit I have a hard time with the stern argument that discs were key to that.

I may be biased towards my Steam usage.

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FreshParsnip 10 points 21 days ago

People want me to be outraged at Taylor Swift simply for being a billionaire and possibly having questionable people at her wedding. Is she morally perfect? No. I wish she didn't fly around on her private jet so much. But she is a much better person morally than most rich people. She is reportedly a really kind person to work for, cares about her employees, pays well, and donates a lot to charity. Could she do more? Sure, but we could all do more. Almost everyone could be giving away more of their money to help others. And the outrage over her having a big wedding that supposedly blocked off traffic and stuff. It was a holiday weekend, it can't have been that big of an inconvenience. How dare she rent out a space that anyone can rent out for a big party. She paid for the security too, contrary to claims that taxpayers paid for it.

Yeah, I'm not going to be mad at a generally kind and generous person simply for being rich. A large part of her billionaire status is her intellectual property. Should she not own the rights to the music she created?

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ScoffingLizard 6 points 21 days ago

The music she created? I'd be shocked if she wrote even half of it.

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AlteredEgo 3 points 20 days ago

Scoff all you want, but she wrote almost all of her songs. Which probably IS unusual these times, and I was surprised too when I looked it up. But she's actually still working, training to dance, singing, writing lyrics and music, touring, traveling, entertaining.

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velma 9 points 22 days ago

I can't bring myself to care about "iPad kids" the way the internet wants. Seems like another way to bash parents and blame the next generation for all the woes of society.

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JoMiran 34 points 22 days ago

I used to not care about iPad kids until I had a long conversation with a school teacher friend who explained the drastic drop in reading, writing and comprehension in the latest batches of kids she teaches. Now I still do not care, but I understand the outrage behind it and why some treat it as child abuse/neglect.

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disregardable 6 points 22 days ago

It's because they are pandemic kids. Schools refused to adapt to the fact that the kids basically lost 2 years of education. Instead of giving the 5th graders 3rd grade materials, they just let the kids who lacked foundation fall further and further behind. It impacted every grade level, but the ones who were younger were the worst impacted. Research shows if you're behind on reading in 3rd grade, you'll probably be behind for the rest of your time in school.

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velma 4 points 22 days ago

Schools refused to adapt to the fact that the kids basically lost 2 years of education.

Yep, a lot of school funding is tied to passing students on to the next grade. And teachers have been severely undermined here in the states. It all compounds into this huge problem we're facing now.

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velma -1 points 22 days ago

I understand the outrage behind it, but more often than not when the argument is going on the internet, it's simply people without children hating on parents.

I focus on my own child and their achievements in reading, writing, and comprehension and let the critics words fall on deaf ears personally. It's entirely possible and more common than you'd think to allow children access to screens and still have them receive a quality education.

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starlinguk 13 points 22 days ago

A friend of mine just lost his job as a professor because the iPad kids don't hand in assignments and he gets blamed when they fail their course.

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velma 2 points 22 days ago

Yep I totally get it. Covid didn’t help these kids either.

In the US, it’s a huge multi-faceted problem. We’ve successfully undermined our teachers at almost every step of the way. We guarantee zero parental leave and protections when parents have children. It’s very difficult to have a family without both parents working. There’s many reasons why kids are not performing at university levels when they get there.

I can’t get worked up about it the way the internet always seems to get its panties in a bunch about it. I make sure my child is ready for the next step in their education and ignore the discourse.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 8 points 22 days ago

Bashing parents with iPad kids is against the terms of AppleCare.

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rain_worl -2 points 21 days ago

so, we all agree that the problem is the iPads, and not the kids?

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velma 2 points 21 days ago

Everything in moderation, including moderation.

That’s been my parenting mantra and it’s worked out pretty well so far.

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BranBucket 9 points 20 days ago

Climate change deniers.

Is climate change bad? Very bad, existentially bad. Do I want it to happen? No. Do I try to take steps to mitigate it? Yes, I put my drop in the bucket and vote for people who support policies that would help.

But we're eyeballs deep in Brandolini's Law at this point and by the time we get ourselves out of the quicksand, massive change will have taken its toll.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take action, but working ourselves in to a spittle-flecked outrage everytime someone says something stupid on social media is a waste of energy when we're already in damage control mode. The battle lines have been drawn for decades and the backlash effect is a very real phenomena.

Economics is going to win this fight before logic and debate does.

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impairedimperator 1 point 20 days ago

I just talk about climate change as if it is settled fact. Especially when I'm talking to someone who I know is a climate change denier, I just don't even consider their position to be worthy of acknowledgment anymore. Sometimes, I'll try to work in a common climate denial phrase as an example of just abject stupidity in modern society.

Example: the other day I was talking to a dude at a bar who was pretty clearly on the coal will save the world wagon, and AI came up. I said: "we lost the AI race to China back around 2008, when some [r-word], said the words 'clean coal' and people clapped instead of laughing at the idiot". Then I watched the gears turn.

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noxypaws 6 points 22 days ago

Ferrari Luce.

Sure it looks goofy but nobody whose opinion matters can afford it anyways. I similarly cannot afford it but I think it's probably fine.

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angstylittlecatboy 6 points 21 days ago

"Problematic media." People who whinge over this are oversensitive children that treat fictional characters better than real people, think people can't separate fiction from reality, and actively enable censorship states like the UK.

"Gooner," "porn addiction," and adjacent complaints. "Gooners" seem much more well put together to me than the people who hate on them. I swear this is another effort from the global Conservative apparatus to increase repression as a bid to increase the popularity of their social policies. Also I swear some of you just see a woman who looks under 40 in media and call it gooner.

"Cultural appropriation." Not to say it doesn't exist, but it's been completely blown out of proportion, and probably does more to divide us than it does to protect anything. The modern discussion around it assumes everyone is an influencer doing things for money or power.

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Katana314 1 point 21 days ago

Ironically, most of the gooner stuff showing up in my YT feed is from girl streamers.

“Oh, wow! The new outfit puts her in a microskirt with a thong! Actually, can I move the camera down…? I can!!! This is so pretty!! Don’t judge!!

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AA5B 1 point 21 days ago

people can’t separate fiction from reality

They can’t. I’m probably taking a tangent from what you intended but the last decade in the us has clearly demonstrated that people can’t distinguish fiction from reality. That people’s words with a global audience can be very harmful even when easily disproven.

We need to clearly distinguish “news” media from opinion media and hold news to reality. Opinion shows on Fox “News” are a great example of problematic media that needs to be addressed, as is a billionaire owner overriding the news desk of a formerly reputable news service

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TryingToBeGood 6 points 20 days ago

anything having to do with celebrities

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WanderWisley 5 points 20 days ago

Being upset that female characters in video games don’t have huge boobs and asses and the intelligence of a watermelon.

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schwim 4 points 22 days ago

All of it.

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blarth 4 points 20 days ago

AI being bad.

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PhoenixDog 0 points 20 days ago

You might want to get outraged when your drinking water runs out.

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I_Has_A_Hat 1 point 20 days ago

Even that is overblown and based somewhat on misinformation. Most data centers are closed loop systems and really don't use all that much water. When they're built, they get like a swimming pool's worth of water and then can go years without needing anymore. The estimates you hear in headlines and news articles are 90% hyperbole and alarmism. There are ones that use evaporative cooling, but they're not standard and usually aren't built in places with water shortages. There are exceptions like that monstrosity O'Leary is trying to build in Utah.

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PhoenixDog 3 points 20 days ago

Most data centers are closed loop systems and really don’t use all that much water. When they’re built, they get like a swimming pool’s worth of water and then can go years without needing anymore.

This is by far the absolute fucking dumbest thing I have ever read on this website. I cannot comprehend how utterly fucking stupid it is.

https://www.eesi.org/...

Approximately 80% of the water (typically freshwater) withdrawn by data centers evaporates, with the remaining water discharged to municipal wastewater facilities.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.03271

Would you like to try your comment again, or is ignorance an inherited trait of yours?

Here's another one.

https://www.cbc.ca/...

YTO 40, a data centre being built in the Toronto suburb of Etobicoke [Ontario], was approved to use up to 39.75 litres of water per second for cooling purposes, according to planning documents submitted to the city.

But according to Microsoft, its new Canadian data centres will only use a fraction of that amount, because of design features that allow them to be cooled using outdoor air and recycled rainwater.

So you're choosing to believe MICROSOFT instead of actual legislation proving how much water they are consuming per day?

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I_Has_A_Hat 1 point 20 days ago

Fair enough, thank you for providing such solid sources, that's rare these days and pretty refreshing. My mistake looks like it stems from newer designs which ARE closed-loop, but aren't being widely adopted since they require more power. In a perfect world, these would be the norm and the increased power would simply be covered by wind/solar/nuclear, but we don't live in a perfect world.

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psud 3 points 21 days ago

AI in code. It does fine, it needs skilled people to vet its code. It really just makes programmers more efficient

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Theoriginalthon 8 points 21 days ago

However when non skilled people get their hands on it

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dream_weasel 1 point 21 days ago

That's true. If you don't work with unskilled people though, or you know a developer IS skilled, it is just another tool.

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custom_username 3 points 22 days ago

Cybertrucks. I saw a thread here recently and people were way to passionate about it imo. I'm not going to spend my energy worrying about the mere existence of an ugly car.

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qupada 17 points 22 days ago

Two minds on this one.

You wanna buy an overpriced, terrible vehicle that's the brainchild of the mastermind who was too weird even for Jeffrey Epstein. Knock yourself out buddy.

That I have to share the road with these chucklefucks, having seen how feverish they are to let the clankers take over driving said giant piece of shit vehicle? I would be lying if I said I didn't have concerns.

The indifference ends at the point where I'm unable to opt out of participation in their bullshit.

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rain_worl 0 points 21 days ago

just to clarify,, what is your definition of "clanker"??
i'm a robot, but surely not a "next-token predictor"

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Trev625 2 points 19 days ago

You're a robot?

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rain_worl 0 points 19 days ago

yup! otherkin, i guess

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Pika 3 points 20 days ago

Insert latest corporate shareholder or position event here:

I have found almost none of the backlash or headlines that people on the internet, especially Lemmy, want you to be pissed off about, annoying to me enough to actually Care about.

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TheStaffmaster 2 points 20 days ago

I think a better question would be the inverse of this.

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Thebeardedsinglemalt 2 points 20 days ago

The quandary of whether a taco is a sandwich. That's the kind of thing some college student asked when they were high af.

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PhoenixDog 3 points 20 days ago

If a sub is a sandwich, a taco is a sandwich.

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Mikina 2 points 22 days ago

Yes.

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RickyRigatoni 1 point 22 days ago

The Scrumbles. I don't care about it, it doesn't affect me, everyone who was affected deserved it, leave me alone about it.

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zxqwas 1 point 21 days ago

Everything you can think of probably. I would prefer a lot of things to be different but I'm happier when I'm just minding my own business and the world won't get any better from me being outraged.

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anarchy79 1 point 21 days ago
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RobotToaster -1 points 21 days ago

Gen AI, half the internet seems to think it's literally satan.

Yes a lot of the "art" it produces is shit, but the internet was already full of shitty Alegria "art".

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psud 5 points 21 days ago

And there's the votes telling you you're wrong to not hate AI

Come on man, the internet is telling you to hate AI!

/s

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Assassassin 4 points 21 days ago

Shitty art is so far down the list of reasons that people have to not like AI. You either don't understand the argument against it, or you're intentionally downplaying it.

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rain_worl 0 points 21 days ago

lots of other problems
i should know <- some kind of robot therian

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chunes -1 points 22 days ago

Apparently I'm supposed to hate standup comedians when they do anything the internet doesn't like. Because comedians are supposed to be embodiments of moral virtue? I still like Louis CK and Bill Burr.

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Ashenlux 29 points 22 days ago

I mean, Louis CK was whipping his dick out and sexually harassing women. That's a crime, not just "something the Internet doesn't like".

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chunes 0 points 22 days ago
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velma 24 points 22 days ago

Louis CK and Bill Burr.

Bit of a significant difference between these two to be fair.

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Angryhumanoid 8 points 22 days ago

I like Burr's comedy but can't defend him doing a comedy show in Saudi Arabia. Louis CK is wildly more problematic. Great that he acknowledged what he was doing wrong after the fact but he always struck me as an intelligent enough comedian to know what he was doing was problematic, to say the least.

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socsa -1 points 22 days ago

As the resident of an actual city, with train tracks and shit. I don't think datacenter noise pollution is a big deal. They are bad for many other reasons, but the noise complaints are a losing battle.

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Ok_imagination 4 points 22 days ago

Haha I didn't know noise pollution was something people were against for the datacenters... I'm with you on that.

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greenhorn 24 points 22 days ago

A constant 24/7 60 decibel whine would be infuriating. https://futurism.com/... And noise pollution has health impacts, "Due to an increasing number of mechanistic and epidemiological cohort studies, the past twenty years have seen a shift from skepticism that noise could affect non-auditory health, to increasing evidence for effects on cardiometabolic disease, annoyance, sleep disturbance, mental health, dementia, and children's learning. Evidence for mechanisms via cortical activation and stress hormones leading to increased vascular and cerebral inflammation and oxidative stress has increased." https://www.sciencedirect.com/...

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Ok_imagination 5 points 22 days ago

Huh TIL, I'll check those out. Thanks for the sources!

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chicken -2 points 22 days ago

Student cheating. If they can get away with it and somehow translate that into getting a job, good for them, if companies use degrees as a lazy way of filtering applications they deserve to get ripped off. Taking grades seriously like their integrity has moral weight is for people who have been severely manipulated.

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BladeFederation 11 points 21 days ago

I can't agree. Cheating is inherently a lack of honor and cutting corners. I don't want a doctor that I can't trust and who takes the easiest possible route in my treatment. That's already bad enough as it is, just saying "it'll get better probably, let me know if not. That'll be 5000 dollars". Plus you have to actually know stuff to grt certain jobs. School is not a useless ritualistic song and dance.

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CultLeader4Hire 10 points 21 days ago

Eh I have mixed feelings, in some fields yes I 100% agree I’d say MOST fields I fully agree but there are fields where this would get people hurt or killed, medicine, architecture, civil engineering etc. where I do think cheating can have very serious consequences.

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Ziglin 6 points 21 days ago

I do also think that exams are often a pretty bad way of checking how well a concept is understood and grades often show how well certain things are memorized instead.

I should probably do some more research before I say anything more about this though as that impression is mostly anecdotal.

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steelplatedmech 3 points 21 days ago

That is how exams usually are though for classes like physics, chemistry, and physics where memorization won't save you with it being solving problems to arrive to the correct solution.

Something like anatomy is pure memorization so being memorization is no issue, since it is just learning names of musicles, nerves, and bones. And when it comes to classes like physiology it builds on knowing what you knew from anatomy, but being tested on how well you can actually explain the mechanisms of what is going on within the body.

I guess it depends on the subject if an exam is just memorization based or not and leaves students knowing nothing.

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Zarobi 1 point 21 days ago

I had one class in University during my programming degree I didn't understand at all. It was as if I was missing 3 classes of buildup, super advanced maths. No matter how much I asked for help or studied, I just didn't get it. I was actually really distressed by it.

In desperation, I just memorised every question and answer in the book. Every day, hours of rote memorisation. The exam is worth 60%… and I ended up with a distinction grade. I think that's equivalent to an A- or 3.7 GPA in North American.

I still have zero understanding of that class, and I've never needed to use it either. It feels like they just threw it in there as torture filler. I think that's a perfect example of what you mean.

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chicken 0 points 21 days ago

I guess that's fair, but most of the complaining about this I see online is for stuff like people not writing their own essays. I also think the more pressing issue that's getting people killed in those cases are artificial barriers to access, like if the barriers to practicing medicine were drastically reduced then at least people would be able to get treatment to begin with, and it's not like having gotten good grades by successfully cramming for exams guarantees professional competence.

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Fizz 2 points 21 days ago

But as a society we should have formal qualifications to make it easy to verify knowledge and streamline basic competency. The idea behind a degree is good the implantation of dogshit degrees being handed out to everyone is the issue.

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chicken 1 point 21 days ago

It's a broader topic, but I disagree, the strategy of outsourcing trust to centralized institutions this way is fundamentally a bad one, and naturally becomes more dysfunctional the more it is used. People need to exercise more of their own judgment, and rely more on the judgment of people they know personally. It's just too much weight for one structure to bear.

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Fizz 2 points 21 days ago

Outsourcing trust is a core part of society. We should be able to rely on parts of society. Otherwise we have everyone trying to do their own thing and its ineffective and a waste of time and effort.

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chicken 4 points 21 days ago

Of course some form of coordination is useful, but no single metric can handle that much pressure. It should be obvious by now that our society is relying too heavily on these credentials, and that they have become less useful to everyone because of that.

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psud -5 points 21 days ago

Tesla. The CEO is the worst, the cars are fine

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FistingEnthusiast 11 points 21 days ago

No, they aren't.

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Theoriginalthon 4 points 21 days ago

Imagine if Elon wasn't in charge, imagine what Tesla could have been...

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ExLisper 6 points 21 days ago

I think giving money to a Nazi is wrong no matter how fine the car is.

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Assassassin 4 points 21 days ago

Teslas are notorious for having terrible construction. Cybertrucks rust immediately out of the factory and body panels just fall off, for one example.

What are you talking about?

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psud -1 points 20 days ago

That's old information. The last 5 years the cars have been fine.

Cybertruck isn't in my country, I don't have opinions on it. American pick up trucks are generally bad though

Also internet: are you telling me things my eyes tell me are untrue?

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Assassassin 2 points 20 days ago
  1. It isn't old information, they still regularly have issues

  2. "They're fine except the vehicle that I'm choosing to ignore" is a hell of a sentiment when the one you're ignoring literally lights itself on fire and gets stuck doing anything that a shitty US made truck can do offroad.

  3. I don't even know what you're trying to say with the last sentence, it makes no sense.

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dream_weasel 2 points 21 days ago

Fine is about all the praise I could give them.

Now they were one of the first electric cars you could buy that was travel viable, and they aren't worth anything to sell. So I can understand why people keep them. I wouldn't buy a new one though.

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Katana314 1 point 21 days ago

As a reminder to anyone downvoting, the original Tesla cars were invented by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, genuine engineers and good guys. It’s taken a long time for South African Nazis to poison it, but the Cybertruck is very much the apex of it.

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SCmSTR 0 points 21 days ago

Cope

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DarrinBrunner -7 points 22 days ago

Won't say.

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tanisnikana 15 points 22 days ago

Why’d you comment? Wanted to take up space?

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crank0271 18 points 22 days ago

It's enraging, isn't it?

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tanisnikana 14 points 22 days ago

Eh, I don’t care that much.

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Bismyth 10 points 22 days ago path: 0 25020045 25020263 25020324 25020375 25020511, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
AskewLord -10 points 22 days ago

pretty much everything.

outrage is just stupid and pointless. all it really is jerking your own ego off and it's a form of getting high on your own supply.

i think my favorite part is like, caring about an issue, but because you won't fly off the handle into a violent verbal outburst about it, you're clearly a nazi/facist/whatever. especially if you like would like to discuss it in an informed or nuanced way that might elucidate it or provide a sustainable path for progress... no we can't have that.

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starlinguk 14 points 22 days ago

Outrage is why things change. It's why women can vote. It's why slavery in the US ended. It's why being gay is no longer a crime.

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AskewLord -9 points 22 days ago

oh, that's weird. i thought it those things change because people vote for laws that change those things.

i didn't know sitting around being very angry changes the world. i thought changing the world required going out into the world and doing things, and you don't have to be angry to do that, but you do... have to do it.

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velma 12 points 22 days ago

oh, that’s weird. i thought it those things change because people vote for laws that change those things.

People didn't vote to end slavery. There were whole wars about it.

Also women didn't earn the right to vote through voting.

The seed for the first Woman's Rights Convention in the United States in Seneca Falls, New York, was planted in 1840, when Elizabeth Cady Stanton met Lucretia Mott at the World Anti-Slavery Convention in London. The conference refused to seat Mott and other women delegates from the U.S. because of their sex. In 1851, Stanton met temperance worker Susan B. Anthony, and shortly the two would be joined in the long struggle to secure the vote for women in the U.S. In 1868 Anthony encouraged working women from the printing and sewing trades in New York, who were excluded from men's trade unions, to form Working Women's Associations. As a delegate to the National Labor Congress in 1868, Anthony persuaded the committee on female labor to call for votes for women and equal pay for equal work. The men at the conference deleted the reference to the vote.[22] In the US, women in the Wyoming Territory were permitted to both vote and stand for office in 1869.[23] Subsequent American suffrage groups often disagreed on tactics, with the National American Woman Suffrage Association arguing for a state-by-state campaign and the National Woman's Party focusing on an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[24][25][26]

One major division, especially in Britain, was between suffragists, who sought to create change constitutionally, and suffragettes, led by English political activist Emmeline Pankhurst, who in 1903 formed the more militant Women's Social and Political Union.[47] Pankhurst would not be satisfied with anything but action on the question of women's enfranchisement, with "deeds, not words" the organization's motto.[48][49]

Source

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Angryhumanoid 6 points 22 days ago

Power will never be freely given. Anger creates movements, movements create action, and action causes change. I'm not saying voting isn't part of the equation but not in the way you think it does.

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AskewLord -5 points 22 days ago

yeah, that's why MAGA is so popular.

creates a bunch of very angry stupid people who think the world should be changed to benefit themselves at the cost of everyone else, who end up voting for folks who fuck them over.

weird how that works.

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HenriVolney 5 points 22 days ago

Sure, black slaves were given equal rights because they politely asked and then white people simply voted for it!

John Brown was first and foremost outraged by the lot of his fellow humans. That anger pushed him to act. Same goes with the British revolution, the American revolution, the French revolution and the Russian revolution. Outrage, anger then action.

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tanisnikana 9 points 22 days ago

I don’t actually understand what point you’re trying to articulate. Would you give it another go?

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AskewLord -9 points 22 days ago

anger is an addictive drug. it's a fact.

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velma 12 points 22 days ago

So are love and anxiety in ways.

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Assassassin -1 points 21 days ago

Why use commas when you're not going to properly capitalize?

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Tiral -13 points 21 days ago

As an American I'm told repeatedly "You'll be sorry" by Canadians that don't like the US. I couldn't give any less of a shit about Canada or their opinions.

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FistingEnthusiast 9 points 21 days ago

Oh, it's not just Canada

The civilised world sneers at 'Murica for good reason

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khannie 7 points 21 days ago

Mmmm. The smell of fresh exceptionalism. Delicious.

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NottaLottaOcelot 3 points 21 days ago

It’s more that the US is going to have to lay in the bed they’ve made, which is not likely to be a comfortable one. But Americans are impressively apathetic and good at blaming others for their own self-made misfortunes, so truly you’re right and your country will never really be sorry. Your government will just point a finger at someone else and insist that they need to be bombed to make life better.

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ExLisper -14 points 21 days ago

Chat Control. It's not evil EU trying to read everyone's messages. It's EU working with various groups to solve an issue, like they do all the time.

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DreamlandLividity 10 points 21 days ago

Yes, various groups trying to solve a problem that barely exists by creating problems orders of magnitude worse but gives them more power. But surely there are no nefarious motivations there.

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ExLisper 1 point 21 days ago

Online grooming barely exists? I've seen reports that it's quite common in Roblox for example but I don't have kids so I don't know.

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DreamlandLividity 7 points 21 days ago

I am not saying online grooming is not a problem, but as you said, it happens on public spaces like Roblox, where predators can find children. Chat Control is unnecessary to monitor those. Random youtubers have been able to do that. No need to build a massive spy apparatus. Instead, of adressing this, Chat Control tries to pry open secure communications like Signal used by journalists, protesters, etc. Applications where grooming is not much of an issue as you only communicate with your existing contacts.

Chat Control ignores the rampant grooming in plain sight while trying to spy on communications where it is rare. So tell me, am I paranoid to think they have different motivation to breach those and are only using "protecting kids" as an excuse?

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ExLisper 0 points 21 days ago

So tell me, am I paranoid to think they have different motivation to breach those and are only using “protecting kids” as an excuse?

I don't think you're paranoid, more uninformed.

Chat Control proposed two things:

  1. Some, let's call them, 'anti-grooming', common sense rules by default. They propose identifying high risk services in which you can for example search users by age and send them private messages. Those services would be required to do things like age verification to separate children from adults. If services don't want to do age verification they have to implement measures like not letting users send private messages to everyone, not being able to search by age, limiting what info is visible to other users (pictures? names? locations? interests?), limiting public spaces (do you need common, public chats in Roblox or can it be limited to chats with friends only?) and so on. I think this is way better than hoping youtube vigilantes will look for pedos for views.

  2. The other thing they are trying to solve is using e2ee messaging apps to distribute CSAM. Here they don't want to touch encryption in any way and the proposal is to let providers voluntarily scan media client side. This was proposed as mandatory at first but was changed later. This is the part people don't like as it indirectly forces providers to scan media client side. Nobody likes it but no one proposed any other solution to limit distribution of CSAM.

So what you're describing is not very accurate. No one is proposing large scale monitoring using some massive spy apparatus. They do actually propose common sense solutions implemented by individual services (how you search users, who can you contact, etc). No one is also proposing breaking e2ee and monitoring messages, the most controversial part is about client side scanning of media. And the original proposal was different but after talking with many privacy groups it was changed. Now it's very close to what privacy advocates are proposing with the only problematic part being the client side scanning. Privacy advocates simply propose to ignore the issue of distributing CSAM and EU still wants to address it.

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MonkderVierte 4 points 21 days ago

Nah, it's clueless actionism.

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ExLisper 0 points 21 days ago

👍

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MutantTailThing -15 points 22 days ago

Israel-Palestine war.

So many wars and other genocides going on in the world yet the internet decides this is the one I should be mad about. Hypocrisy.

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tigeruppercut 3 points 20 days ago

What other genocides are currently happening?

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MutantTailThing 6 points 20 days ago

Rohingya in Myanmar, Uyghurs in China. Then there's the genocides in South-Sudan, Ethiopia and Ukraine

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jimmy90 -2 points 20 days ago

i/p is not a psyop but the whirlwind that whipped it into international politics most certainly is as well as the barely masked anti-jew subliminal messaging

and look at your downvotes; it worked

it will fade and disappear at some point at least until the next mass casualty terrorist attack

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AskewLord -12 points 22 days ago

the people who the most angry about this are the ones who are the most ignorant about it.

but those are the same people who think every American is a Trump supporter stereotype.

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jimmy90 0 points 20 days ago

true, i've tried to talk through the history of i/p many times here. they refuse or resort to the approved arab version that starts at naqba

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