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JoMiran 164 points 2 days ago

The Chinese aren't ahead of the curb here, they are significantly behind. Flavored cigs got banned in most countries many years ago because they did too good a job. I expect the same thing will happen in China soon.

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Kirp123 114 points 2 days ago

One of the reasons they were banned was also because it made them more attractive to children and teenagers. That's also one of the reasons a lot of places don't allow fancy designs on cigarette packs and it forces them to show those gruesome pictures of throat cancer and stuff.

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Trex202 19 points 2 days ago

Exactly, that's why vapes come in many flavours and colours

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village604 3 points 2 days ago

Because adults like many different flavors?

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athatet 2 points a day ago

And colors. And flashing lights. Just look at how psychotic adult people go over fireworks.

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TAG 1 point a day ago

I thought that the US banned flavored vapes. If your home country has not, encourage politicians to ban vapes altogether.

Edit: In retrospect, I should let the vape addicts be.

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Epp 3 points 21 hours ago

And ban alcohol, too. And sugar.

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village604 7 points 2 days ago

It's a bullshit justification. Adults like flavors other than plain tobacco and menthol.

If it was really about protecting children, they'd ban flavored alcohol too.

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chaogomu 43 points a day ago

It's not just about protecting children, it's about protecting everyone.

Nicotine is wildly addictive. Full stop. It and a host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues that greatly strain the medical system, and put strains on healthcare budgets.

Since banning the product outright will likely not work, due to the aforementioned addictiveness, sensible countries have adopted a slightly different approach of making the cancer sticks as unappealing as possible, both to keep kids from starting and to help people already addicted quit.

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kungen 10 points a day ago

host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues

It's mostly the tobacco causing health issues, not the wonderfully addictive nicotine. But yeah, it's a good thing that flavored cigarettes are banned.

Though it seems like big tobacco found a loophole on the first day, as you can still get menthol cigarettes in EU... it's just not as strongly minted as it was prior to the ban.

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anomnom 5 points a day ago

Many places banned caffeinated booze for similar reasons.

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village604 -3 points a day ago

Ok, if it was about protecting everyone, they'd get rid of flavored alcohol too. Alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs on the planet.

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Little1Lost 26 points 2 days ago

the tabacco lobby there (state owned, makes basically the same amount of money the chinese military spends) banned flavored vapes so the citizen take cigarettes instead

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MonkderVierte 3 points 2 days ago

Is this why some manwha/hua mc smoke?

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Little1Lost 8 points 2 days ago

about 40% of chinese people smoke so its definetly something where state & tabacco propaganda succeeded. About korea: i dont know, i only saw the documentary about the chinese mega company

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MentalEdge 21 points 2 days ago

Except cigarettes are a state-run monopoly over there.

The main reason things are going so slowly is that they can't bring themselves to stop making so much money.

The same institution that's supposed to promote the facts about the health-risks of smoking is the one making stupid amounts of money making and selling it.

If they ever stop, it'll be because they transition to other nicotine products, or shift to exporting the product to developing countries (which they already are).

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village604 4 points 2 days ago

I'm still pissed China banned direct to consumer sales. I miss Fasttech.

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wdx 10 points a day ago

unlikely. Basically all cigarettes are produced by CNTC or one of their subsidiaries.

CNTC is owned by the state and rakes in a lot of money for the government.

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zikzak025 14 points a day ago

There's a profit ceiling, though. And a lot of countries are finding out that the larger cost of cigarette usage is borne by the healthcare systems that need to spend a disproportionate volume of resources to manage the various health complications caused by a lifetime of smoking.

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captainlezbian 4 points 16 hours ago

If anything it should be easier to kill a cigarette industry owned by the government, because the ones profiting are the ones paying the long term cost

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mobyduck648 1 point a day ago
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sangeteria 2 points 11 hours ago

The liquor stores in Canada are primarily monopolize by the provincial governments, which is for the best, but it does have its obvious negative externalities lol. I always make an effort to go to a govt store over a private corp if I can

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teslekova 8 points a day ago

Curve

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Appoxo 1 point 19 hours ago

Didnt they already ban vapes?
Or did I mishear something.

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Gladaed 70 points 2 days ago

Flavored cigs are forbidden in Germany. Guess that's good.

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frog 37 points 2 days ago

It is a good thing. I hate cigarettes and this post made me curious what other flavors China has.

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webghost0101 19 points 2 days ago

I remember rumours at school that the strawberry flavour could get you instant addicted.

I doubt that is true, but I considered it a positive that people were worried about it.

Then the modern vape cartridge got invented and just like that the youth is back to paying companies to inhale poison.

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yermaw 9 points 2 days ago

They were kinda right. Any cigarette is pretty much instant addicted if you smoke it all. The flavour just ensures youre more likely to do it. A lot of people take one or two puffs, cough their lungs out and say "sweet jesus thats fucking gross get that away from me". The ones who make it the full smoke usually are in for life.

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aim_at_me 1 point a day ago

I know this to be mostly true. But I've probably smoked about 20 cigarettes in my life. I had one about 3 months ago. And before that it was over a year. So some people can smoke, and not get addicted. I suspect I don't have what ever gene makes you addicted to nicotine.

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Ioughttamow 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I started with clove cigarettes. Wish I had never started, but at least I’m well and truly done with smoking

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MofuMoth 5 points 2 days ago

Same in Sweden, its specifically to not encourage people to smoke.

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danekrae 1 point 2 days ago
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Gladaed 2 points 2 days ago

Wat?

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danekrae 3 points 2 days ago

Commented on the wrong comment.

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HikingVet 21 points 2 days ago

Is that gold line where the filter ends?

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danekrae 28 points 2 days ago

The future is NOW! Are you classified as human?

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HikingVet 14 points 2 days ago

No, I am a meat popsicle.

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Little1Lost 9 points 2 days ago

affirmative

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redsand 5 points a day ago

And it looks like the crush ball is below their finger? Maybe more than one? I wouldn't buy a pack of these but i would bum one with intense curiosity

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MutantTailThing 19 points 2 days ago

Every single bite?

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gray 19 points 2 days ago

Translated from Chinese

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swab148 4 points a day ago

Om nom nom tasty cigarettes

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DudeImMacGyver 18 points 2 days ago

cigarette

every bite

unsubscribes

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Katana314 11 points 2 days ago

My hope is that part is a mistranslation. The picture shows it being lit, anyway.

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Baguette 7 points a day ago

In cantonese, to smoke is sik yin, which directly translates to eat smoke. So it probably translated weirdly.

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DudeImMacGyver 1 point a day ago

"It tastes like burning!"

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HerbalGamer 18 points 2 days ago

So theres this american dude on youtube who cycles through China and the way he connects to locals is usually by offering cigarettes. Very fun videos; "Bicycling trough China, one cigarette at a time" was the first I think I saw.

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Malyca 3 points a day ago

What's his channel?

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Malyca 2 points a day ago

Thanks!

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JigglySackles 1 point 10 hours ago

That's pretty cool

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gandalf_der_13te 16 points 15 hours ago

lots of food products taste boring in the west because

  • we've been told that stuff that tastes good is probably full of additives and therefore bad for your health (think of all the chemicals!)
  • and because of the same christian mindset that got us the cornflakes:

Cereal would create fortunes and create multinational companies that we still know today. But Dr. John Harvey Kellogg , the inventor of corn flakes, did not care about profits. For him, cereal was not just a health food because it would improve Americans digestion. He believed a diet centered on bland foods like cereal would lead Americans away from sin. One very specific sin: masturbation.

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underscores 8 points 10 hours ago

As someone who ate lots of cereal and probably broke records cranking it: he was wrong

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epicstove 7 points 11 hours ago

Thank god my regular unflavoured cigarette don't have any dangerous chemicals!

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Madison420 4 points 11 hours ago

Watch the road to wellness, it's about Kellogg and it's fantastic. Matthew Brodrick gets jerked off by a machine and gets a bunch of yogurt jammed in his butthole and at some point corn flakes come up. You know, proper cinema of a bygone age long past.

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nomy 3 points 11 hours ago

*The Road to Wellville

Great movie, great casting, very funny.

edit: I forgot O'Brien is in it, it's ridiculous it's only rated 5.9!

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xorollo 15 points a day ago

I want my smokes to make me feel like I'm dying a little bit, thanks.

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tigeruppercut 9 points a day ago

Here ya go bud, 18 mg tar. I think there's an unfiltered too but I can't find it right now.

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Alcoholicorn 5 points a day ago

I will pick those up next time I'm in Japan. I don't smoke, but everyone else in asia does, I found foreign cigerettes make a good gift if someone helps me and it would be weird to give money.

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Tiral 2 points a day ago

It's funny you're assuming they're telling the truth.

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xorollo 2 points 8 hours ago

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daannii 15 points 2 days ago

Or just eat ice cream that isn't laced with a highly addictive substance.

No?

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Captain_Buddha 23 points 2 days ago

Sugarless ice-cream doesn't taste as good.

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Johanno 11 points a day ago

Ah yes rhe typical "light the filter and smoke it from the wrong side" people.

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Rubanski 9 points 21 hours ago

The ash looks more like "ginormous filter" or random golden ring

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gandalf_der_13te 5 points 15 hours ago

nah i think the purple thing is the filter ... the smoke goes through it and acquires scent that way.

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A_Chilean_Cyborg 11 points 18 hours ago

Hmmm cancer scent.

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grahamja 9 points a day ago

In Iraq rhey have cigs with two different flavor capsules in the filter, it was a novelty. I do remember carrying crushes at bars, in case you met someone who liked menthols. I'm glad I quit, but it was fun at the time.

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ivanafterall 9 points 17 hours ago

I don't miss the smoking so much. I miss the social aspects. I met so many people just by smoking outside occasionally. Didn't even have to do anything. Just stand there and stuff starts happening around you.

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tio_bira 3 points 16 hours ago

They aren't that new, on Brazil, you just pop a small bubble to get it mentol flavored, i used to sold a lot of those not so long ago

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NathanRanch 8 points 2 days ago

I don't like smoking. I think I ought to be free to decide that for myself. I can't, or by proxy, make that determination for anyone else - even though I don't think they should be smoking if they choose to.

If it didn't make so much money, kids wouldn't be vaping. It's an integral part of the American performance that, "nothing we can do about it", is just what everone sees, and therefore thinks. We could prosecute parents for letting their kids have them, prosecute the gas stations for peddling it, prosecute the companies making them cheap and disposable. All of that would turn off the faucet on a billion dollar industry though, so it becomes part of our performance in one way or another. We have fundamentally bet that our world is a better place with smoking children in it, than without. That is what Capitalism does, that is how it does it. That is why it needs to be controlled like a rabid dog on a leash.

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QuinnyCoded 4 points 2 days ago

I HATE that THC disposables are legal. I've had 2 of them and keep them in a little jar in case they ever randomly choose to catch fire

also not to mention how horrible they are for you. I only used them when I was a minor and couldn't get weed by myself. (admittedly I am the issue šŸ˜…)

There's not enough education that you can enjoy weed without risking lung cancer by using a dry herb vaporizer and keeping it at ~380°F (depends on the strain tho) and it doesn't make you cough up a lung every time you take a blinker!! also flower is cheaper than carts too!! (though the device is a bit of an investment at $200).

it's fucking great and I'm tired of getting "I don't care about my body" from ppl any time I recommend it because I love my friends and want them to understand what they're actually doing!!!

also it has a pocket bong attachment. Bitches love the pocket bong.

edit: also I forgot to mention you can bake the burnt flower in brownies or something and get a BONUS high from the same flower. I don't understand why normal bowls are used at all tbh, they're so wasteful

edit 2: also I only talk about weed and not nicotine because I am NOT responsible enough to expose myself to chemically addictive drugs

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captainlezbian 2 points 16 hours ago

I've got bad lungs and a dry herb vape was a game changer. I miss the taste of burning flower, but it's not bad and it feels so much less rough. I'm off pot at the moment, but when I'm back to doing it, dry herb + edibles all the way.

And yeah fuck disposables.

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PancakesCantKillMe 1 point a day ago

What is the device you posted? Is it the center of it that heats up? Fits into your shirt pocket? šŸ¤”šŸ˜‰

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jumping_redditor 2 points a day ago

I appreciate disposable vapes existing because there are unfortunately few ways to actually get plain lithium batteries in alaska.

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village604 0 points 2 days ago

The FDA is the reason sketchy Chinese disposables flooded the market. They killed the industry here to protect tobacco tax revenue.

Before that, there were manufacturers using ISO certified cleanrooms to produce eliquid who voluntarily submitted to 3rd party audits. They all closed doors because the FDA forced them to submit every SKU to the PMTA process, which costs $250k-2m per SKU.

That means that for one eliquid flavor, they'd need to submit a separate PMTA request for every nicotine strength and base ratio, which could end up costing tens of millions for nothing if the PMTA was denied.

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subgenius 8 points 2 days ago

Then nut cancer from the mystery carcinogens.

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mechoman444 7 points a day ago

This is great it's basically saying: this lung cancer tastes great!

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the_q 5 points 2 days ago

Killing in the name of...

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JasonDJ 4 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile can't even get menthols in MA.

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thesohoriots 2 points 2 days ago

In Search of Lost Time for the twitter era

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DarrinBrunner 2 points 2 days ago

Can we please not advertise cigarettes on Lemmy?

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GeneralEmergency 11 points 2 days ago

Cigarettes 🤬

Cigarettes but Chinese šŸ˜

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TrickDacy 10 points 2 days ago

Guess it depends on your perspective but for me this just reminded me of how disgusting cigarettes are

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Proprietary_Blend 1 point 6 hours ago

Welcome to flavor country

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Etterra 1 point a day ago

Looks like Asian plums. I've seen that it's a popular flavor in candy and stuff in Japan at least.

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