Artificial insemination is a treatment.

Forcibly impregnating someone is also called rape.

someone

Key word.

Do bulls obtain consent? Nature is rapey as hell

Pretty fucked up to try to equate animal husbandry with rape.

Eww, no. Gross.

My gyno jerks off my cows like a civilized person.

No, but I've seen some video evidence ...

I mean with some of the prostate exams I've had I'd almost assume as much.

Trying to be "facts forward" so make of this what you will. Source: I was in FFA in highschool in a beef intense-ish area.

The method of collecting semen I'm most familiar with is when they take a female cow in heat and tie her up, then bring a male bull they want to collect semen from into the same pen. The male will smell the female is in heat, gets erect, and will attempt to mount her.

As the male is trying to mount the female, people in the pen with the cattle will have a large rubbery "sleeve" on a pole (imagine a cow sized condom on a stick) that they will maneuver around the bull's penis as it mounts the cow. He does his thing in the condom thinking he's inside the female (usually less than 30 seconds) dismounts and then the ranchers have their semen for artificial insemination.

I've been out of that area for over a decade now so a new method may have emerged since then, but in my Animal Sciences class, that's how we were taught semen is harvested for most livestock.

Edit: I distinctly recall the "artificial vagina" being on a stick (and laughing about it in class), but best video I can find on the quick: https://youtu.be/-4ma3WeOxbo

Unless they are jacking off themselves at the same time, it's not sexual.

it's a veterinary procedure

Animals are, similar to children, students etc, fundamentally incapable of giving consent

Well ... I agree with most of your points. But animals are not humans, so consent works fundamentally different. Domestic animals are owned, so humans act as the legal guardian. Yes, there should be regulation regarding general animal welfare.

But I don't think artificial insemination of livestock falls into the category of bestiality. It's a fun meme and shitpost, though.

If your gynecologist sticks a finger up your vagina without your consent, then it’s rape.

So they're supposed to ask every fucking time you're spread at the table May i please insert my finger in your vagina to do my fucking job, pretty please?
And are you sure students can't consent?

Can we get a peek? Sounds juicy

This post is like the one ring of power, if we let it go on for too long everyone here will become a shitpost gollum. The proper thing to do is cast this shitpost into the toilet bowl of mordor where it was forged.

At least you got to see Eve's tiddies

I don't think there's any context that can make up for forced impregnation.

True, but the monoculture of banans is also destructive to the environments and biodiversity.

the part where we use pesticides, fertilizer and other techniques to make sure these plants don't die. they're bred for usefuleness, not for surviving in the wild. this is basically true for all crops we farm

the part we eat.

Context?

Just supporting

"I am" ::: spoiler spoiler I'm not. :::

That's just not true. Read the comments again.

Anger Management

This article says it was for raw vegetables:

For our ancestors, the appendix most likely evolved to help them digest a diet rich in raw vegetables and cellulose, as it still does in many herbivorous mammals. Thousands of years ago it would have functioned as an extension of the cecum, involved in the bacterial digestion of fibrous plant materials.

That is not proven though, the appendix part, that's the explanation I like the best as well. Other explanations, I forget, the aliens had it for some shit we don't even know about, oh yeah, the more likely non joke one, and it could be what you say and this both many organs do multiple things, is to provide a reservoir of gut bacteria, to repopulate the gut after the system is flushed. That would go right along with digesting raw meat, as using independent bacteria is large part of the human body we've come to learn.

I forget what the other theories are, but there are others for the appendix, I believe the raw meat and reservoir of bacteria both though is most likely.

To quote Meatloaf: 🎵🎶 IIIIIIIIIIII WANT MY MONEY APPENDIX BACK!🎶🎵

It's probably got more to do with eating less rotten meat than eating less raw meat. It has functions for the immune system it is like the surveillance system for what is being introduced to the body.

They are still omnivores who choose to limit their diet. Acknowledging that is a choice gives it meaning, which would be lost if it was treated as something similar to being an herbivore.

I am not personally a vegan or vegetarian, but respect the choice to limit one's diet for the purpose of limiting animal suffering.

that's a choice by an individual. doesn't change how their body behaves due to millions of years of evolution.

ironically, the thing that gave them the ability to make the choice to be vegan is the thing they are rebelling against. high volumes of protein, specifically those from consuming the brains and muscle of prey, allowed the species to grow larger and more complex brains.

in a few million years vegans are going to be too stupid to make the choice for themselves and will return to consuming meat because they're omnivorous.

I've found the rare rational person on this thread. Run before it taints your soul!

More vegan.

What a curious phrase. Not just for the substitution of vegetarian for vegan, but for the use of "more". More vegan. I thought it was binary. Are there partial vegans? I thought that wasn't allowed.

Because my diet includes more calories and nutrition from plant matter than meat most days, am I more vegan now?

Today, most people are "more vegan" than meat eater, too, as in they eat more grains and vegetables than meat. If that's what you meant.

There's no evidence to support that. Best evidence is that our ancestors for the longest time were likely opportunistic omnivores. Plants of course were a large part of the diet, but looking back to about 3.9 mya meat was on the menu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

that's like comparing us to the primordial plankton that use to eat microbes.

it's just really stupid.

let's ignore 25 million years of evolution.

A guy reading a Bible on one hand with his hand a foot deep into a cow's behind

....you...you do know that's not how insemination works....right?

if they're in it's behind, that's an impacted colon and they are likely trying to clear it.

Vegans don't want to force anything on anyone. What we want to do is to persuade people to change their minds. I believe wholeheartedly that veganism as a majority position is inevitable. In the past, the idea that black women would be allowed to vote was more unthinkable than majority veganism is now. History trends towards progressivism.

to force their way of life on everyone

So fascism?

It's not just political clout. Attempting to politically force veganism on the world would result in a war, not just votes against it.

People won't willingly give up meat, so barring the issue being forced due to economics, the way to a vegan society is via cultured meat.

FAFO

This study was funded in part via an unrestricted research grant from the Beef Checkoff, through the National Cattlemen's Beef Association.

I think people on the left as whole would be more prone to depression and anxiety too. People who care about the world are generally more concious, more self-aware and critical, which turn into more worrying and at the extreme, anxiety.

I mean, the part you cited already mentioned it but later in the study it's stated even more clearly:

Across all studies, there was no evidence to support a causal relation between the consumption or avoidance of meat and any psychological outcomes.

vegan diet is literally making people crazy

Wrong.

(or crazy people are more often on vegan diet, dealer’s choice).

Mmm, no, there is a right answer and it's this one. Well, it's this one with more inclusive language. Like "People who have experienced more hardship with psychological consequences are more likely to avoid consumption of animal products".

Carnists: "You don't understand, we need to shove our hands up their asses"

Vegans: "Yes, we know, that's what we are concerned with"

At my friend's farm, they put a bull in the cow's pen and let them figure it out. People raised bulls specifically for breeding and nobody got in the way of a bull and a cow doing their business. That was 30 some years ago. I guess at some point people just needed more cows phacking in their ranch.

I wonder if they would use the same argument on a photo of someone receiving gender-affirming care.

That criterion fails Karl Popper's principle of scientific falsifiability. Pick some criteria for which you could design an experiment that clearly and persuasively differentiates its presence from its absence.

We are all animals, and we are comparable

I've dated vegan girls that were into some weird stuff. Granted, it was weird stuff between consenting sapient adults...

https://theecosexuals.ucsc.edu/

Something being Cashew based is not the flex you seem to think it is. All you've done is replace animal abuse with human abuse and modern slave labour. I don't see how it would be any better from an ethical standpoint.

As another vegan: sorry, no, it's not accurate. And the texture/meltiness is just completely off. It is similar enough for me to enjoy it and not want real cheese anymore. However, for many people (especially americans) cheese is some holy substance, so we do need to continue improving vegan cheeses for more people to jump.

I live in a food desert, there's not that much in the way of selection of what's available.

The same process is done to cows that will be slaughtered to meat, otherwise the farmers wouldn't be able to selectively breed and would be risky to the cows (cows have a high risk of injury when getting mounted by a bull). Farmers find a bull with the desired fenotype, buy his semen and impregnate the cows in the same manner you see pictured by OP.

Milk is a side hustle for the meat industry.

I'm no bovine biologist or veterinarian. I was confused as to why artificial insemination would be done with a fist and forearm up the ass.

Curse my search history, but now I know.

https://www.vice.com/...

Like all journeys of enlightenment, initial answers only raise more and deeper concerns. Why aren't they wearing scrubs? Why aren't they wearing to-the-shoulder medical gloves? Why are they smiling? Why do 30% of the cows smile and groan with pleasure? Why do ranchers form close affectionate bonds with one cow, their favourite?

I have a more profound understanding now - of the addage "Ignorance is bliss".

They don't die in 5-6 years, they stop producing milk in high quantities and are slaughtered and used as low quality beef.

Cow and Chicken will be just fine, mom and dad takes care of them.

Actually, there are several stable populations of feral chickens descended from domestic chickens.

Not long before, though.

Lots of animals snack on their babies after birth, can I munch on those?

All life is sacred you murderer!

cattle hardly eat any of the global soy crop. and only about 7% of the global soy crop is fed directly to animals. most of what is fed to livestock is the industrial waste from pressing soybeans for oil