YOLO

2 months ago by inari to c/linuxmemes

Sanctus 173 points 2 months ago

Fuck it, we ball. 3 years no arch deaths. Windows is a fuck. 1,000,000 pacman warnings.

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MrKiosc 80 points 2 months ago

I don't remove orphan packages, I don't setuo snapshots, I don't read arch news.

I sudo pacman -Syu. And if I can't boot I don't do it

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Secret_Music 19 points 2 months ago

It's been a while but for me personally, the number one thing that saves your ass in event of failure is installing both the up to date and the LTS kernel. If you fail to boot, it's gonna have something to do with a kernel update 90% of the time, in which case you just boot with the LTS kernel. Just about anything else can be fixed either while you're up and running, or with a live distro installed on a USB.

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Vitaly 7 points 2 months ago

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ianhclark510 86 points 2 months ago

I’m here for a good time, not a long time

Also, my last Arch death was due to accidentally ovverwritimg the whole drive, so no amount of split partitions is going to save me

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owenfromcanada 83 points 2 months ago

They call it disk destroyer for a reason. You gotta alias that shit.

alias dd='echo Did you triple check which device you picked? Of course not, dipshit. Check again'

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tal 18 points 2 months ago

They call it disk destroyer for a reason.

There's nothing specially destructive about dd. It's just a program that opens a file, and if you tell it to open a device file and it's got permission to write to it, it'll write to it.

You can just as easily overwrite a disk's contents with anything else that will open a file and write to it.

# cp /dev/urandom /dev/sda

will wipe your drive with random data in the same way that

# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda

will.

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iocase 20 points 2 months ago

You're technically right, but the way most people use dd ensures its like handling a loaded gun. How often do you cp /dev/sdwhy?

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kettuli 3 points 2 months ago

mkfs.ntfs is the silent killer, other mkfs don’t allow writing over the root partition but summoning this kind of Windows magic will happily fuck up your shit.

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slacktoid 14 points 2 months ago

Hahahahah I need to do that lmao!!!

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StumblingWasabi 6 points 2 months ago

Surely double checked is enough

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owenfromcanada 23 points 2 months ago

It's not. Neither is triple checking. Notice how the alias doesn't actually run dd? That's on purpose.

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wonderingwanderer 3 points 2 months ago

I quadruple check and then I still don't run it because I'm too nervous so I go and do something else instead and the item remains buried on my to-do list indefinitely.

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uderecife 3 points 2 months ago

Great advice. I rarely use dd, but when I do it always sends chills down my spine.

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imadethis 3 points 2 months ago

Lol, as someone who tried a bunch of different distros, I used the dd command a lot without ever realizing what could go wrong with it. I must have used up all my luck with that though, because somehow I ended up on manjaro of all things.

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SlurpingPus 2 points 2 months ago

Did you triple check which device you picked?

I checked five times, actually. And then I check some more.

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basxto 2 points 2 months ago

My last Arch death was updating my 128GB laptop after a year and breaking it with partial updates. (I’m better at partial updates now) It also made me want to, move away from having separate /home partition. It was somewhat sad, since it was the Arch that I installed on the previous laptop and just moved the SSD when I got a new one

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scoobford 86 points 2 months ago

Hot take: I used arch for over a decade. It never broke unless I broke it.

By all means, back up your files but rolling release distros aren't made of arsenic, you'll be fine.

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Ziglin 8 points 2 months ago

I think it's very much dependent on your hardware.

I had some issues with my Nvidia drivers getting messed up when the card was relatively new. I haven't had any issues in the past two years though.

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CheesyFox 3 points 2 months ago

i think that sort of issues will no longer be relevant, considering that there are official semi-opensource nvidia-open drivers and that even wayland supports nvidia gpus just fine nowadays.

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bobo 4 points 2 months ago

I know people who've driven drunk for more than a decade, and only crashed when they were sober. Does that mean drinking and driving is safe?

I literally had one of my devices fail to boot after an update pretty much every month, and another a few times a year. Sure, I was able to fix it with only arch-chroot, but when I switched to btrfs I didn't need to carry around a flash drive with me when updating the system...

The last few years I'm on nixos, and while it sometimes fails to update, it has not once failed to boot.

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Stitch0815 7 points 2 months ago

Thats's a really bad analogy

One endangers others while the other makes a couple of files and photos go poof

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bilb 2 points 2 months ago

The danger and the stakes are not what is being compared, though. It's a perfectly good analogy.

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giacomo 62 points 2 months ago

i mean, all the important stuff is saved to OneDrive, right?

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wreckedcarzz 74 points 2 months ago

Straight to jail.

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NiHaDuncan 25 points 2 months ago

You missed the space between one and drive… and you accidentally capitalized a couple letters.

Don’t correct me on this one. Please.

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harmbugler 5 points 2 months ago

All my important stuff is saved to SomeDrive

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muhyb 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, but actually no.

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kolmaskommentoija 2 points 2 months ago

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0ops 2 points 2 months ago

OneDrive used to be pretty good on Windows before it started taking the documents folder hostage. Maybe needless to say I've never attempted to use it on any of my Linux installs

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kolmaskommentoija 1 point 2 months ago

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dream_weasel 1 point 2 months ago

This is unfortunately me with google drive for a few things.

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rumba 58 points 2 months ago

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tatterdemalion 21 points 2 months ago

Why would you want your entire home folder in syncthing?

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tetris11 45 points 2 months ago

I'm very attached to my ~/.cache !

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justme 11 points 2 months ago

stresstest your io i guess

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rumba 1 point 2 months ago

A live copy of my home folder and the few remaining secrets/configs i don't care to put into home manager.

I try not to put dangerous data into HM or my Nix configs, I just let syncthing whisk it away to my homelab, it has versioning turned on.

also .stignore is your friend

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GrapheneOSRuinedMyPixel 11 points 2 months ago

also, machines wipe themselves at each boot! service state data is distributed via zfs send! zfs that actually works!

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Martineski 1 point 2 months ago

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Mika 9 points 2 months ago

Syncthing will also propagate removals or bad edits

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rumba 1 point 2 months ago

also support versioning if you really wanted to keep them.

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tty5 54 points 2 months ago

Pfft.. it's been fine for the last 10 years.

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memphis 8 points 2 months ago

Seriously. I've spent more time maintaining my debian home server than I have my two arch installs combined.

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lyrial 1 point 2 months ago

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MonkderVierte 5 points 2 months ago

It is.

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inmate_p01135809 37 points 2 months ago

I remember daily driving Gentoo unstable in the early 2000's on my rig in college. It was like trying to beat a Dark Souls boss every time I wanted to do an update.

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bodaciousFern 2 points 2 months ago

In one of my university java courses, another student was frequently compiling Gentoo packages on his laptop during class.

Once I researched more about it I also installed Gentoo on my laptop and started building updates during class 😁

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realitaetsverlust 31 points 2 months ago

Where are those people whose arch installs break after every second update? I don't think I had a single problem with arch that I wasn't responsible for. Hell, I had more problems with mint on my girlfriends PC than the arch machines that I'm running.

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muhyb 7 points 2 months ago

If you don't count my 6 years with Manjarno, I've used Arch for ~7 years and only 3 times I had to fix something, 2 times because of Nvidia, once my fault. I had way more problems with Ubuntu in the past than Arch by the way. :)

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ysjet 5 points 2 months ago

There's the argument to be made that all three were your fault, since you decided to use nvidia on Linux.

Hyuk hyuk hyuk.

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muhyb 2 points 2 months ago

Well, I also used ATI in the past but it was way worse. :)

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muusemuuse 2 points 2 months ago

This is still true but I find you are using bcachefs where every update is a death threat.

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Randelung 27 points 2 months ago

Separate /home is such a scam. Never have I run out of home space, but boy is 27GB not enough for a root partition that runs any kind of service.

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FlexibleToast 16 points 2 months ago

Use a modern filesystem like btrfs or even lvm with thin provisioning to solve that problem. Separate partitions for ease of backup, but they all pull from the same pool of storage.

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rklm 4 points 2 months ago

On my PC and all my home servers I keep my root partition at 10GB and haven't had any issues (although I keep everything that isn't hardware related or a system utility in home).

On my PC I crammed arch, all of KDE (+extra KDE utilities), and some other system stuff like LACT and distrobox in the 10GB root partition and run almost everything else as a flatpak installed to home.

On my servers I do the same thing but all my services are in podman containers in /opt.

Having all the software needed to make the machine work be isolated from my custom home junk makes me feel better, and I like that I can mount root as read-only to make it immutable

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basxto 1 point 2 months ago

/ size becomes an issue when you install games via pacman

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WhyJiffie 1 point 2 months ago

symlink the directories to somewhere on another partition

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tal 3 points 2 months ago

I think that there's a reasonable argument for a separate home partition on a multiuser system. Means that users can't fill up root.

But a lot of systems aren't multiuser these days.

EDIT: Honestly, my biggest partitioning irritation these days is that the Debian installer makes it a pain in the rear to have a larger /boot if you're also doing an LVM-based install; the default is unreasonably small these days.

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basxto 2 points 2 months ago

I have / on SSD (less writes) and /var and /home on HDD

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basxto 1 point 2 months ago

Probably my installed games alone are larger than that

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juipeltje 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah i never bothered with separate /home because it feels like such a balancing act to decide on size compared to root. Especially when you use nix/guix, it would be annoying to have a small root with the store filling up over time and having to do garbage collecting often. Also, i just back up whatever files i want to make sure i don't lose, and when i do a clean install i actually want everything to be wiped anyway, including home.

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swelter_spark 1 point 2 months ago

It's the opposite for me.

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EponymousBosh 1 point 2 months ago

I only do it on my ancient laptop because for some reason, it makes things a little faster. I don't know why.

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lemonhead2 24 points 2 months ago

there are two types of computer users

those who make backup
those who never had a hard disk crash

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Rekorse 13 points 2 months ago

Everything is replaceable

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Pika 6 points 2 months ago

Assuming you do have a backup

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Rekorse 5 points 2 months ago

I honestly can't think of a thing I'd want to backup. Game saves, resumes, media. Its all replaceable and not worth backing up. I dont think I have a single "important" document or picture or anything.

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InFerNo 4 points 2 months ago

It's time saved rebuilding all of it

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hansolo 4 points 2 months ago

Not me!

average person

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MehBlah 3 points 2 months ago

Or those who can fix it.

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jumping_redditor -1 points 2 months ago

what are the cheap ways of setting up automatic backups?

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TrollAccount69 2 points 2 months ago

Rsync and cron

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lemonhead2 2 points 2 months ago

i did rsync and cron for years. now I switched to rsync and systemd timers 🙂🙂

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TrollAccount69 2 points 2 months ago

Systemdeez nuts

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jumping_redditor -1 points 2 months ago

yes, but to what medium

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TrollAccount69 3 points 2 months ago

Whatever’s around. Some writable filesystem.

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libewa 1 point 2 months ago

Btrbk if you use the right filesystem.

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dadarobot 22 points 2 months ago

my manjaro has been running the same install for 6 years on ext4 no separate home partition...

what are yall doing to brick your machines?

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TootSweet 11 points 2 months ago

Right? The OP describes me (except I like to think I'm not that sweaty) and I don't remember ever having reinstalled because things were broken.

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imadethis 5 points 2 months ago

You're still using manjaro after all their drama? I jumped ship.

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tautalas 3 points 2 months ago

What happened?

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imadethis 3 points 2 months ago

zloubida explained it with the link well enough. More importantly for me, the package repository seemed to stop being maintained, because many of my packages had no updates for a significant amount of time (and they had been updated elsewhere when I checked).

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zloubida 3 points 2 months ago

Conflicts between the project leadership and the developers. I stayed on Manjaro though, this kind of things is in fact good news: it means that people in charge care, and I think things will be better thanks to that. I'll just follow the devs if things don't go better.

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lemmyvore 1 point 2 months ago

It still gets updates and still works so why jump ship.

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richardisaguy 5 points 2 months ago

I remember using manjaro vanilla and breaking it in a single month of use.

No aur enabled, no nothing - it just broke, it wasn't even funny

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lemmyvore 3 points 2 months ago

Wherever people say "Manjaro just broke" it's good odds they tried to use it like an Arch install. Installing drivers "the Arch way", pointing the repos at Arch, using bleeding edge kernel versions etc.

It may be Arch but it's been set up in a certain way and if you mess with it it won't work. Not messing with it is the whole point of the distro.

It does have a wiki and forums etc. so I feel that if people read a bit before doing stuff we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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richardisaguy 1 point 2 months ago

The funny thing is that i did none of that, the hardware i was using didn't need additional drivers and i didn't add any extra repos.

Perhaps i did something wrong, or autoupdates were interrupted but i don't remember doing anything extraordinary with the install.

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Badabinski 1 point 2 months ago

Manjaro isn't Arch. Doesn't use the same repos.

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queerlilhayseed 2 points 2 months ago

Fuckin around :)

Finding out :(

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thevoidzero 21 points 2 months ago

I live like this, it has been 10 years, no problem

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deadset 12 points 2 months ago

Same here, not sure what they on about.

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InFerNo 7 points 2 months ago

I third this

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VitoRobles 1 point 2 months ago

I'm stupid and I didn't know there was other ways of living

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thagoat 14 points 2 months ago

My /home/$USER partition is on a separate disk. Me wicked smaht

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thisbenzingring 5 points 2 months ago

SMRT!

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sudoer777 13 points 2 months ago

*BTRFS users when you don't rebalance soon enough and run out of inodes so you can't boot your computer

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hirihit640 4 points 2 months ago

How often do you need to rebalance?

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tetris11 4 points 2 months ago

When the moon is in the Seventh House and Jupiter aligns with Mars,
then peace will guide the planets, and love will steer the stars.

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Takios 3 points 2 months ago

my current openSUSE install with btrfs has lived for about 6 years now and I haven't done any manual maintenance on btrfs

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sudoer777 3 points 2 months ago

I think some distros have a systemd service that does it weekly or monthly which is usually enough but in rare cases it's not, just know that if you suddenly get out of space errors on BTRFS but you're not actually out of space that's probably the issue

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FuyuhikoDate 11 points 2 months ago

Me with arch: what is timeshift? Time to updstr without backup, lol!

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pewpew 11 points 2 months ago

I'm rawdogging my Debian Unstable install

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bryndos 11 points 2 months ago

meh, just backup home.

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obsolete 11 points 2 months ago

This is my setup that I have been using for years. I have never had a serious Linux update issue that could not be fixed.

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anarchy79 3 points 2 months ago

Well la dee da look at this guy who knows how to fix linux!

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obsolete 3 points 2 months ago

Yeehaw!

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anarchy79 4 points 2 months ago

I, too, am familiar with the art of grub rescue env!

I have seen its darkest depths.

And oh how deep they doth go!

(I use arch btw)

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Revenstale 11 points 2 months ago

I always back up anything that I feel is actually important, do people actually rely on the stability of their OS?

Not that Arch has caused me any issues whatsoever so far, going on 2 years now while very much a Linux noob.

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Denjin 3 points 2 months ago

Just get your snapper to run before/after any update and if you bork something, roll back. Easy peasy

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mazzilius_marsti 10 points 2 months ago

to be honest that setup is faster to arch-chroot if things go wrong.

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megopie 9 points 2 months ago

I will simply reinstall and forsake my files if it shits the bed catastrophically

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iltg 9 points 2 months ago

what's a snapshot, new kernel? lets roll!! almost 2k packages in

never really broke my arch tbh, its been serving flawlessly for 7 years now. its a decently recent thinkpad tho so stuff tends to just work and i have no gpu to bother about

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BassTurd 9 points 2 months ago

Btrfs and snapper. Only time I ever had to reload a snapshot was because of my own actions. I've been fortunate to never have any update related breaks. Maybe a couple services had hiccups, but never breaks.

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provectus 9 points 2 months ago

Rule of thumb I adopted: If you never update arch, it will never break.

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Unglue1857 8 points 2 months ago

Dotfiles in git my dude.

Edit: or even better chezmoi with dotfiles and ansible bootstrapping

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AnimalsDream 8 points 2 months ago

Non-issue. I just scatter fragments of my data across so many devices that some version of something is bound to be somewhere. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Doomsider 2 points 2 months ago

Ah yes, the shotgun approach to data integrity

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turbowafflz 7 points 2 months ago

if it breaks, just fix it

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owenfromcanada 7 points 2 months ago

It's not so crazy these days. In several years of running arch, only once has an update broken anything (and that's because I was messing around with virtual machines).

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dewritoninja 7 points 2 months ago

This is me with endeavourOS lmao. Anything important is on my mega/Codeberg. If it dies it dies

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queerlilhayseed 7 points 2 months ago

Important files go to repos / backup disks. Workstations are sinners in the hands of an angry god.

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tal 3 points 2 months ago

The ideal system probably is something like btrfs snapshot, then restic or similar of that snapshot to a remote disk.

Btrfs doesn't dedup identical data at different locations. Restic (or anything similar non-filesystem-level) cannot take an atomic snapshot. If you have something like a PostgreSQL database, where the DBMS ensures that what's on disk is valid at any point in time, but only to an atomic view of the thing, you probably want an atomic snapshot of it.

I dunno if anyone has a single off-the-shelf utility that does both steps together.

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iocase 1 point 2 months ago

Zfs does atomic snapshots and also computes the diff between snapshots when you zfs send/receive to remote. You can set up syncoid scripts to do all of this automagically and ensure source and dest match, have regular snapshots, and to manage retention schhedules on both ends.

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LostWanderer 7 points 2 months ago

ROFL Like, this was me on other distros just using ext4, no timeshift (made manual backups though, not as much as I should've). Now, I am understanding the hype with btrfs, Snapshots, as they have saved my ass so much. Using Garuda Linux, BTW! Sometimes a machine doesn't matter so much so...I lived life dangerously, and paid for a particularly low cost for it.

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eestileib 4 points 2 months ago

Snapper is sooooo nice 🤩.

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LostWanderer 4 points 2 months ago

Ridiculously easy to use and quickly get back into a working system! I used it first with openSUSE Tumbleweed, after the adapting to how it functions, it was easy to use. Something I cannot live without. Edit: I had to change some text because those 4am thoughts weren't lining up right.

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EastofEdson 7 points 2 months ago

No sweat. I prefer to reinstall and start fresh every now and then anyway.

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wreckedcarzz 5 points 2 months ago

'It has been 2 0 days since the last reinstall'

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rozodru 3 points 2 months ago

you know after installing god knows how many distros and reinstalling just the same it's like easy peasy to get anything installed now and up and running/configured the way I like it within an hour. Especially if you git repo your configs. I have my Suckless suite of stuff in a repo so when I install a new distro or reinstall something I just clone that repo and i'm good to go. all my important data is backed up with borg. it all works across any distro and even BSDs.

Git repo your configs/DEs/WMs folks. such a massive time saver.

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nixukty 6 points 2 months ago

Arch has never "broken" on me through my 3 years of using it, but after a while weird issues would start to appear. Like for example my login manager just stopped working permanently and I had to do startplasma-wayland. Ssh agents also subtly broke. Stuff like that. I forgot to enable fstrim and my system freaked out during I/O eventually. These are all technically user error, but I don't feel like spending so much time on managing my operating system.

I ended up switching to Fedora and was pleasantly surprised how well it's setup by default.

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BurgerBaron 2 points 2 months ago

idk Arch's timeline, but back in Janurary CachyOS changed from using SDDM to Plasma Login Manager and their news release had some manual commands to enter in to migrate more smoothly.

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nixukty 1 point 2 months ago

every login manager was broken, it'd just crash after I put in my password. It was the final straw

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cosmos8188 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly agree, it's always the little issues that are problems.

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InFerNo 6 points 2 months ago

I check all these boxes. This install is ancient now. I moved the disk into a new PC (Intel/nvidia to amd/amd) and it didn't even stutter.

I had issues in the past, sure, but nothing really severe. Archlinux.org frontpage has information on breaking updates if need be.

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akunohana 6 points 2 months ago

xfs gang? 🥲

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motruck 6 points 2 months ago

Nah. We just know how to boot a broken system and fix it.

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jeena 6 points 2 months ago

This is me!

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xylogx 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah but you do backups right? Right?

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1984 3 points 2 months ago

I dont actually but I can reinstall the system easily, and the user data is mapped to my nas drive.

Sure if I would delete all my files on the nas by mistake, I guess I lose them. But hasn't happened.

Should actually back up my nas... Will get some external drive to do that I guess.

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dream_weasel 2 points 2 months ago

Nope. The stuff I need on my machine is all managed with git. I'd lose a few documents, but nothing I couldnt love without. Photos and important stuff are in a few different places, but not my main PC.

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basxto 5 points 2 months ago

I feel attacked! (but I have /home separate; and backups of everything except big game installs I can easily reinstall)

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Crackhappy 5 points 2 months ago

I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

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Alfredolin 1 point 2 months ago

More like "I'm in this picture and I like it."

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Obnomus 5 points 2 months ago

How do you know about me.

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thisisbutaname 5 points 2 months ago

Been there, done that

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emmowo 5 points 2 months ago

Even ext4 still has safety measures (BLOAT!11!!1) because of journaling.

This is why i compile my kernels on ext2 with without swap for maximum utilization /j

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Alfredolin 4 points 2 months ago

Exactly. Nothing of importance is stored solely there anyway.

And for me I need every single GB for installing games, no space left for backup management.

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anarchy79 2 points 2 months ago

I run a live real time dist straight into ram. I communicate with Linux telepathically.

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thisbenzingring 4 points 2 months ago

This is me... IDGAF

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Krafting 4 points 2 months ago

I was one of them few years ago...

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Shayeta 4 points 2 months ago

Timeshift? BTRFS Snapper layout!

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_haha_oh_wow_ 4 points 2 months ago

dies

"Welp, time to distrohop."

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bizarroland 4 points 2 months ago

I don't keep anything important on my primary daily driver. I keep it all on my NAS and that has backups.

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Pomal 4 points 2 months ago

Decade running arch on a laptop w encrypted drives, the only fails were from powerdevil.

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Mongostein 4 points 2 months ago

A separate partition for /home/

Why haven’t I thought of this before??

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emmowo 2 points 2 months ago

you can use it to (sometimes) transplant your personal config and documents onto another OS, but it comes with the tradeoff of losing space in root that might be used for massive libraries (compute libraries suck in this regard).

And sometimes your /home will depend on things that your rootfs doesn't have, which has caused problems for me before. But if you planned for these things beforehand, and your installed software doesn't do something really dumb, it can work out pretty well, although my personal experience with this is limited to effectively embedded Linux where this is usually a non-issue.

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the_q 4 points 2 months ago

Old man meme. It's like saying "you need the command line for Linux!"

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germanatlas 4 points 2 months ago

I wouldn’t call every 2 years "constantly"

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dismay3915 6 points 2 months ago

You update arch every 2 years?

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cupcakezealot 3 points 2 months ago

the one thing i wish i knew when i first installed linux was to put /home on another drive (i do symlink downloads and anything else now but i wish i did it on my desktop when i first switched)

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lordziv 1 point 2 months ago

Are you meaning on a different partition or a completely different hard drive?

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cupcakezealot 1 point 2 months ago

well my desktop has the main ssd where i installed it too but that is pretty small while the second drive is something like 2tb so that's where i would have put it. its honestly not bad now i had a brief panic where it ran out but ive symlinked a lot in /home over to the new place its just wish i understood the advanced partitioning when i first set it up that's all.

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moonshine69 2 points 2 months ago

Not too difficult to fix this in post.

Turn off, boot from a USB
Copy all home to drive
Delete home from old drive
Add fstab entry
???
Lose all data (but usually profit)

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Syltti 3 points 2 months ago

You say it's not too difficult, but, I guarantee you, if I tried to do this, I'd lose not only my /home, but also my game drive. I'm that kind of dumb.

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anistorian 3 points 2 months ago

Wait. Are you saying you can choose not to rawdog your os ?

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rumschlumpel 3 points 2 months ago

At least they're not waiting several months for accumulated updates! I've been told that's how you break an Arch system.

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Feyd 4 points 2 months ago

Not really. Might have to update the keychain first or update the package mirrors of it's a very long time but it's not a huge deal

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Telodzrum 2 points 2 months ago

pacman updates the keyring first now. It’s gotten quite difficult to break Arch.

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cryptix 3 points 2 months ago

Arch noobs after destroying their system every month be like:

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DigDoug 3 points 2 months ago

😎

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Treczoks 2 points 2 months ago

I ran linux with ext2, no timeshift, and home on the root partition. Back then when I ran the machine on kernel 0.97.

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reader 2 points 2 months ago

does btrfs finally work now?

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FlexibleToast 7 points 2 months ago

Finally? It's been SUSE's default for at least a decade now. It's the default for Fedora since 33, so ~5 years ago. Btrfs has been working for a long time.

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rklm 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah and it's awesome. I have it making backup snapshots automatically and I copied the steamos-readonly script from valve to automatically lock everything except my home/root/var/opt etc (I realize you can remount ext4 as ro too, but still btrfs handles this well).

I recently swapped the contents of two drives of different sizes (one was a server and the other was a PC) and btrfs made the filesystem resize and expansion parts easy.

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wreckedcarzz 2 points 2 months ago

I was introduced to it by a synology nas a decade ago, and it's my preferred fs. I wish proxmox supported it, my compute server had to go with ext4 since it's got one disk for the system, and one for the VMs, no redundancy. They say it's in 'tech preview' but most mainstream distros have had it for years now...

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Klajan 1 point 2 months ago

I think I had the option for btrfs on Proxmox (but I did choose ZFS for simple replication to my NAS)

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esc 2 points 2 months ago

btrfs with pacman hook and i do backups semi reguralry (monthly + -)

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bridgeenjoyer 2 points 2 months ago

I have ext4 and dont use a separate3 home partition but I use timeshift

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Fizz 2 points 2 months ago

I'm convinced that majority of people using timeshift couldn't recover from their system failing to boot or a drive failure.

And if you could tell me how because I got no idea how to either.

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Emerald 2 points 2 months ago

You can just boot a Linux Mint live session and restore from there.

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Aatube 2 points 2 months ago

why mint in particular lol

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MintyFresh 2 points 2 months ago

Caus mint is the superior distro. I use mint btw

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Emerald 2 points 2 months ago

It has Timeshift preinstalled, because Timeshift is maintained by the Linux Mint team. You can use any live session and install Timeshift, though.

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BlackLaZoR 2 points 2 months ago

How do you mismanage your system so bad that you need these things?

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joyjoy 2 points 2 months ago

The problem with btrfs is no installer I've seen supports reusing an existing subvol for your home partition. Not that I can figure out at least.

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azureskypirate 1 point 2 months ago

Could you set a 1GB home partition on install and change it in fstab once install is complete and you're booted up?

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moonburster 1 point 2 months ago

I'm in this picture... My build had been stable for a year and I only once had my PC booting in safe mode

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DonutsRMeh 1 point 2 months ago

That was me when I first started using Linux 10 years ago. I didn’t know any of this stuff, and most of it didn’t even fucking exit. Wing it and worry later. Moral of the story, I reinstalled several times a month. Lmao

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michaelmrose 1 point 2 months ago

Mint users with no zfs, no per block checksumming, no syncoid, no ability to boot into prior version or revert right in the boot loader...

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wilmo 1 point 2 months ago

That's me right now. Just use deja dup on my home to my NAS.

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anarchy79 1 point 2 months ago

💀

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Echolynx 1 point 2 months ago

I made a /home partition on eOS at least! But given that the drive is only 128G, I don't store much in it that isn't synced from desktop.

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JamesBoeing737MAX 1 point 2 months ago

Eh, I've had worse. I'd actually like it if it included FDE (my spare Artix laptop has this config, while my main is stuck with home encryption (on seperate partition)and Suse TW, which is kinda chaotic. I complained about openrc being a pain to daily, but Artix actually makes it good and feels actually stable.

You can backup via a live enviroment anyway.

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ekZepp 1 point 2 months ago

Timeshift has indeed saved my distro's ass a few times. But is not a silver bullet. In the end I keep most of my stuff on an external HD and in there a folder with some notes and data about my distro configuration. If he dies (and he did) I'll bring him back.

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Yeller_king 1 point 2 months ago

Meh, I keep everything important on a separate drive altogether.

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