Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots
12 days ago by return2ozma to c/technology
Fuck Spez
Don't fuck Spez actually, there's no doubt in my mind he's a terrible shag.
Fuck that twat. He did get me off of reddit, so credit there.
Reddit never gave a shit about bots. To them it's something that pumps up their active users numbers to woo their investors. They're only doing this so they can force people to view their ads that are designed to look like posts.
Who goes on Reddit nowadays anyway?
It's not even mature enough to support some mainstream interests, like sports.
no laundry community on Llemmy either....
That's the problem with changing social networks.
People goes where people are. So it takes some major scew up from the current networks. Or a newcomer that have some killer feature everybody will want / need.
And lemmy lacks that "killer feature"
Lemmy/Piefed/Etc has a killer feature (or maybe characteristic), but one that only a fraction of users find appealing. Being decentralized makes the network more resistant to many of the problems we see on Reddit and other networks, or at least, reduces their impact.
It's not even mature enough to have an active Minecraft community, imagine how's the situation with smaller or indie games...
I think what there users who mostly post and users that mostly comment (I belong to the later). Lemmy could try to bootstrap some of those communities (note: to not make it to specific) by just reposting the same posts that are posted in Reddit and see if that could increase activity.
there are plenty of empty communities where the only posters are bots that mirror reddit. it's clear that doesnt do anything except earn a block
There isnt even an intactivism community here bruh!!!
Heck there isnt even LAUNDRY community on Lemmy!?! How yall existed for this long with no laundry community yall?!?
Can you expand a bit? What do you mean "feudal nature" and "liberal democracy"? Do you mean society as a whole or Lemmy in general?
You should start a community for those games. Or contribute to an existing one. Be the change
i had to ask very specific questions, that Reddit has the niche subs for, that lemmy doesnt have recently.
What, they're not on neoseeker?
I joke, but really why not try going back to bulletin boards again? Neoseeker was made for games and it always had plenty of users. It's at least better than reddit.
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This one is surprising to me. If there's one thing that Lemmy has a lot of, its Linux enthusiasts
Yeah, and it's worse the more niche. I have no idea if Lemmy has a Fortnite community or if it's active, but I seriously doubt it has a /r/StarWarsDroidTycoon community (a Fortnite mode), which is what I care about. Or /r/FortniteLeaks
Or a specific gamepad brand sub that might have some info for a problem i face, or 3ds hacking resource. Reddit win in this because they have years of discussion on the specific subject.
Seems like most people don't really care about or understand stuff like "private platforms enshittify". Certainly not enough to be inconvenienced. People will be like "that's where the good memes are" or "that's where my video games post". Heavens forbid you miss the hot memes.
Exactly. They definitely care. They want the AI companies coughing up dough for all that data.
Thankfully redlib still works
Yeah definitely not optimistic it'll keep working
It could also be to make things difficult for redlib, which uses the reddit API.
I think the issue is also related to how Reddit makes money. Reddit makes money from selling advertisement. I would guess they are charging a certain fee based off subreddit activity the ads are shown in. When most of that Reddit activity is bots and fake clicks on advertisement then the company won't see the return on their investment because they thought a million people would see their ad but only 100k real people actually saw it.
the problem with uBlock there is thst sometimes on reddit they post like 'Advertisement Posts' ...Like actual posts that are not about that niche community in anyway but are nothing more than an advertisement for a comoany and uBlack obviously cant block that.
Ive seen it a few times in the past but its been like 4 years since Ive been on reddit so I dont know if theyve stopped doing that.
I'm banned
Permanently
You are banned for this comment which you can't see
Bastards!
they never ever did anything to propaganda bots at least not recently, and since trumps 2nd win in the WH it was clear they were banning.
Reddit at one point filtered millions of bots monthly and transparently filed public reports on the actions they had taken, even citing the source of these bot networks if a notable number of them came from places like Russia, China, Myanmar, etc.
That was a long ass time ago, though. Before they killed off the free API access in 2022, and the 3rd party apps and accessibility layers with it.
I use Red Reader to look at reddit for a few specific subs but I prefer hanging out here.
the "meat" is where all the propaganda can target like the front page subs.
Absolutely. Frontpage stuff like /r/politics has been mostly bots & trolls farms since well-before the AIpocalypse. AI just took much of the burden off the human hand on that rudder.
They ruined r/foss and on a track to finish off r/selfhosted, my beloved. S/selfhosted used to be mega cool place to be. Today it is plain depressing. And an actual user activity there dropped to almost zero.
thats whats FB has become.
I'd like to believe it is but I also know that the majority of people online do not give a damn about user experience and things getting shittier. I do not understand these people, but its because of them this shit is still happening. If they all left sites like reddit there'd be no incentive to become shittier and shittier.
Not trying to shift blame though, in the first place its companies like reddit even coming up with strategy who are to blame.
See my Reddit alternative: Zyke Design was inspired by piefed. Had 3k hits last month
They'll still allow AI bots. Only the ones they authorize though. Without them their paying customers will realize how many people have left.
there are some very narrow uses where AI is actually useful. Most of what it's used for is junk though. The early internet was the same way, but at least that was charming about it. I doubt that a website comprised of 1200 clipart hamster gifs and a pitch toned clip of a song from Disney's Robin Hood is going to hack a competing Sites mainframe looking for ways to inflate its page veiws.
The AI bubble will burst, companies will actually sit down, pull their heads out of their asses, and actually apply it to something useful, as it was originally conceived.
They killed access to old Reddit without an account a couple months ago. Also i saw some people can't access the new one without an account but i guess they are rolling out that one slowly.
They're making the website viewable only with an account.
Sooo Reddit is doing this to get rid of bots… except the only users they have left are bots… weird.
Their automated filters seem to be designed to ban people and leave bots. 🤭
That feeling when you get banned from a community cause you typed in "Im a Black man" and the auto mod banned you for the world "Black"....
spammer bots, and propaganda bots, utilizing AI posting or using hundreds of account at once by 1 entity.
they also allow propaganda bots from russia, israel , and palantir to run free to astroturf comments.
I know we all collectively hate Reddit here - no sarcasm on my end -, but I hate to think what it's gonna be like 10 years from now.
The sheer amount of good information I've obtained from Reddit over these last 15 years: mental, physical health, nutrition, tech, jobs... all for free, as it should be! It's insane when you think about it.
Imagining a world where I'll have to get charged to search every little thing, and yet get biased information due to ads and marketing... All of this sucks so much.
How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.
Never forget what made sites like Reddit popular in the first place. That can always be rebuilt. Reddit can die without it meaning we have to give up what Reddit was.
Hmmm yeah. I know! FARK
You always have something like Lemmy & Discuit.
Never forget what made sites like Reddit popular in the first place.
you mean r/jailbait?
being a news and niche topic aggregate site helped it becoming big. because all the other forums either died or declined, or were too hard to ask a question in.
Numerous subjects & communities of subreddits is why. There’s Public Freakouts, News, Video Games, Health, Television, etc.
The information will still be there as long as they don't remove entire posts by users who have deleted their user names and keep an archive going.
Someone should be making a reddit archive site. Like an exact read-only clone to retain all the information people have access to before they remove it all to accommodate Ai on their servers.
i would avoid anything related to current events, politics or news, thats where the bans are. im on solely niche topics after a year ago i got banned, made a new account recently and only ask question in a very niche sub.
The majority of its value is in currency, meaning current. The historical value is present too, but it’s but a drop in the ocean relatively. If everyone left Reddit, Reddit would very soon cease to exist. Wherever everyone went, they took the value with them.
I just realized the redundancy in my comment 🤦♂️
Ending the public API also prevents reddit users from deleting their post history without manually removing each post.
If you want to scrub your post history and prevent reddit from profiting from your input, use Power Delete Suite while you still can.
https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
It is unlikely that reddit allows users to delete their content from the backend but this at least keeps your posts out of search results, which is a large part of their value.
im using that powerdeletesuite, you can poison potential AI scraping by changing your comments.
Another option is connecting with vpn or talk bad about Trump and you'll get shadow banned straight away.
I mean reddit was just the domain name where real people shared that info. The real people who want to share knowledge are still out there, just wont be on reddit much longer.
This. It was a golden age of information and community availability, and it's going to be hard to put that back together. Especially since the prior eras of distributed sites, we had functioning search engines.
And yeah, sure, it can be rebuilt... but there's going to be a long time of awful isolation until it is.
Yeah, I also find a lot of my most useful and specific web searches take me to reddit. Unfortunately, I don't see a solution. Hopefully a similar depth of information will start to accrue here, but if it happens it'll happen slowly. And it's hard to search.
I guess I will continue to hang out around here. There aren't many places on the internet left for such a broad range of topics and conversations with real humans. The sad reality is that the specialist forums are dying and being replaced by closed platforms and the large aggregators are getting shittier every day. The Fediverse seems like the only worthwhile investment of my time.
What I miss most from reddit is probably askhistorians. . . Such an incredibly wide and authoritative accumulation of knowledge and skilled interpretation. Ah well.
no time like the present to create it on lemmy and recruit in DM's :)
best yet, you could DM the historians with the best mannerisms.
Once you get a number of reasonable posts on this side, you could ask people on their site for assistance on questions from here :) lowkey advertising until they shut you down over there.
People forget that before reddit became the default for this stuff, Quora and Yahoo Answers filled the same niche
How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.
Books and that kind of stuff, for some of that. Most of the useful information on health, nutrition, sports and the like came from people because it came from books (that people read).
For the rest, hope that more people to community bootstrap.
Reddit bridged so many understanding gaps for me while i was in my early 20s things you could never talk about in real life. It was honest people talking in good faith. Now i look at the same places and they're full of the worst info and worst takes.
same thing here. certain job industry, which is worth getting into, how hard it is to apply,,,etc. and all the other subs. the least useful ones were politics and news. they had subs for people wanting to join the services, but could not find a place where they can discuss because it was originally concentrated in certain forums only.
got an appliance problem of a specific model, or electronic issue, the subs have it.
Stopped using and producing content for reddit a long time ago.
Long live Lemmy.
I've been wondering about something like this for years. Websites have been aggressively enshittifying for a long time now. Everything defends against accessing their content via any unapproved means. Getting a full resolution image from anywhere via image search becomes more difficult every day. If a search engine lands you on a site, the site deliberately withholds the content that brought you there and dangles the carrot to keep you using the site for as long as possible, always making sure you fall just short of what you're after so you keep looking. Most links that you share directly from your URL bar are littered with telemetry data so that unless you first sanitize the link, sharing it on social media means that now the site is able to link your session to the account that shared the link and map your social connections on platforms they don't even own.
I have a foreboding of a future internet where everything, even the structure of URLs themselves is obscured behind a layer that is opaque to the end user. People will be completely locked in to only using the site in an approved manner from an active account in "good standing" with the platform. You can use the site as normal as long as you're logged in, but the URL itself would only ever be something like website.com/sU6ecjejfE32Jy7w94. You could share that link as normal and people could click it and be directed to the thing you want to share, but they can't view the content without logging in, and even if they don't log in, the mere fact that they clicked it still links the two of you together in the user map. Nothing ever escapes the sandbox and nobody is able to share content from the site unless they accessed it from approved means, and they can only share it to others who are also using approved means. The more websites adopt this model, the more user-mapping takes place until eventually anonymity on the internet is completely dead. Every single site knows exactly who everyone is and every social connection that they have. Everyone who refuses to submit to this new paradigm is blocked from accessing the site at all, yet they are still mapped all the same. Making a new website that's this restrictive would probably mean that it never gets off the ground, but making that change on a platform where users are already dependent and tolerating increasing levels of enshittification just might work. If one major platform pulls it off, others will follow.
The world wide web a legacy platform at this point. It's treated as such by both the tech industry and average people. Most people use social media through apps. All the government organizations and banks are consolidating their services to apps. Nobody makes their own websites anymore.
The reality hasn't sunk in yet for the rest of us, but it's happening. We assumed it would be a forever thing once it was created. It turns out the world wide web is going to be brief historical period at the turn of the century that you tell your grandkids about.
Maybe some day the PC will go back to being a novelty appliance found in few living rooms. Where you have to power it up, sign on, and browse the few handful of websites in existence. When you're done, you turn it off and go about your day again.
apps are so much more terrible to use than the browser, much more limited ui and features. like your bank and healthcare apps is so not intuitive.
You could share that link as normal and people could click it and be directed to the thing you want to share, but they can’t view the content without logging in, and even if they don’t log in, the mere fact that they clicked it still links the two of you together in the user map. Nothing ever escapes the sandbox and nobody is able to share content from the site unless they accessed it from approved means, and they can only share it to others who are also using approved means.
Me: [presses PrntScrn, shares the result of that]
I mean yeah they literally will and force everyone onto the app.
the APP gives them more data, like your components, and whatever else they are getting on your phone.
No, they aren't. The headline is just a giant lie. Why would anyone pretend to believe it?
Reddit was destroyed by bots years ago. So that's nonsense. But they have two strong reasons to pull public access. First, if the public has access to the data, then companies won't buy it for AI training. Second, if the public has access to the data, they can prove (as we already knew) that Reddit is full of bots, so there is no reason you would want to buy training data from it.
and people who buy ads on Reddit thinking it's going to get a certain amount of views but they don't know most of those views are bots until after they paid for the ads. Then they have to prove to Reddit they were tricked and good luck with that unless your a corporation Reddit wants to have a good relationship with.
reddit also wants GENUINE human generated content, not AI-generated posts or comments that poisons thier data, thats why the forced logins. im in another forum where the spammers, have to "make genuine' content to evade thier spam/bot filters.
How sad that Aaron Swartz was there for the creation of RSS and Reddit. Like spitting on his grave by removing access to data and putting up walls.
I often think about Swartz, and I wonder if he did what he did because he saw where we were heading and knew that they were never going to let him near a computer to fight it. I hope that he's at peace.
only to have the alien hybrid spez to thirst for musk and destroy reddit.
They even banned /r/Lemmy. The nerve lol
No idea, just think it’s hilarious. Just checked and yep…
Yah he reminds me of a weasel for some reason 🤔
First thing claude recommends when you ask about a reddit alternative is Lemmy. They are fucked boy.
kinda obvious, they dont want competition, and people to jump ship.
I posted on a food sub, saying "that looks incredible* something innocuous like that.
Bot removes my post, contact mode team because I cannot quite believe what I read. Auto mod, (cannot believe it was a human), tells me the same thing. Reddit has profiled me as being disruptive & I can post once I have "improved my standing"
Things like this are a red rag to me, always have been. Anyway, the food sub is muted, & reddit can get fucked, I'll post my opinions whether any bot likes it or not till I'm inevitably banned for failure to "conform" to their disgusting agenda.
I was in a discussion on the post election political situation in Sweden right now and from nowhere my five year old account got flagged as "suspicious" and locked until verified. For whatever reason it refused to hit me with CAPTCHA and the likes. I had no email registered previously and could not verify. I tried a couple of temp email but got no verification sent there. So I registered a throw away at a legitimate email provider and changed it there. Nothing there either.
But I also have mods and at least one admin that doesn't like me from long ago because I make fun of Nazis. So maybe I am "suspicious".
There is something new they're doing. They say you're a bot, or are spamming, this seems a catch all to shadow ban people anyone that says anything the admin considers contrary to the reddit agenda. You could try contacting the site mods...I got a "bot" ban lifted that way once.
on the shadowban sub, the only way you can actually post every 10minutes, most people dont get a response on why they get banned or thier appeals heard.
I had a very similar experience. I had a reddit account from before they required email addresses. It got flagged as "suspicious", it forced me to reset the password in order to continue, and the password reset required me to provide an email address, which I refused to do. I asked an AI agent what might have caused the flag. At the moment my account got flagged, I was arguing on reddit with some pro-China people, and I was posting links to the genocide of the Uyghurs. The agent told me that hackers probably made multiple failed attempts to log in to my account and this triggered the flag. Sounds like something similar could have been done to you by people who opposed your political views.
i wonder if reddit accounts to get stolen,.
I wondered the same. As far as I can tell, in my case, hackers (presumably pro-China activists) simply made multiple failed attempts to log in to my account. They probably had no chance of getting access, but they knew that it would cause the account to be flagged. They probably did not know 1) that reddit did not have my email address, and 2) that reddit required that for a password reset, and 3) that I was not willing to provide it - so effectively they locked me out of my account.
that flagging your account as suspicious happened the moment i was using a different browser. its really mean they were already going to ban you.
Reddit has become unusable. It has moderaters that are censorious, sactimonious, petty and do not care about. free speech. Adverts are becoming unbearable and the riculous time limits drive me mad! The inane Avartars are imbecilic too.
Eventually, all these tech companies scale up to a size where they don't have to give a shit about people anymore. They only care if you're a celebrity or somehow manage to create a big PR show that they have to respond to. But at this point, regular people are just like blades of grass that will eventually get mowed down somehow and there's nothing you can do about it.
Now it's dead and time to move on.
Horribly accurate. I remember the good old days when imgur was to all intents & purposes a porn site, now it's some sort of self help horror show where the appearance of a nipple is tantamount to a crime against humanity.
"platform decay" aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
on reddit, BILL gates was on the sites for a few years, and then he vanished around epstein getting arrested, hmm guessing epstein news was potentially going to out him too, thats why he stopped. even his "covid vaccine" philantropy was a vaneer of what he wanted.
now another celebrity, GARY sinise suddenly was on reddit alot, starting right before trumps 2nd election, suspicious i think not. providing military propaganda for conservatives on the site, he also seems like he acts as he was a vet himself. then on youtube saw his "im leaving hollywood" interview, he said it was his SON that was the cause, but im thinking the winds were changing and his republican whom he announced publically on election year was going to cause him to lose roles in hollywood. hes has a wierd obsession with vets.
large subs are too infested with moderation and bots.
It's ridiculous. The bots ban and then they guard the mods (humans), who could review the case(-s). Support is pretty much non-existent.
A mild realization just hit me. Reddit used to come up in daily conversation, even with randos. Now when I mention it nobody even knows what it is, and those that do remember it... speak of it only as this vague place they used to go years ago. "Oh yeah I remember reddit"
E: fyi I'm talking roughly circa 2008-2013 when every last bricklayer, sewer technician, and 7-Eleven worker "found" the platform
The only time it comes up in conversations is because my buddy discovered reddit only like 3 years ago, when I had just moved to lemmy. He still sends me reddit links several times a week.
Then there is the tech support side, because name it and it’s been posted on reddit, usually with the solution, but now everybody just AI’s the shit out of that so that has become less relevant.
And that’s it. Everyone else that I knew that used reddit has moved on years ago.
Really? Wow. I have no way of really knowing for sure but I am pretty convinced that they reached maximum saturation of their user base 10 years ago... That's why there was this sudden whiplash pivot to forcing Indian, Pakistani, and the European content to the front page.
I saw that as the indicator that the North American market had been penetrated as far as they were going to penetrate, and they were looking abroad.
Now with what you're telling me it's making me question reality, I don't think there's a person on the planet that isn't aware of reddit, I think people just don't want to use it anymore!
Question, where have you noticed these advertisements?
They were on network TV over the holidays. My family has disney+ and they had ads when I went over their house. I also saw ads on YouTube. It was quite a bit so it was a strong push in advertising.
The reddit community that I'm still sort of active in relies on RSS in order to run and judge contests. We have a portal which sucks comments in via RSS because they revoked the API key which was used for the same purpose.
Without RSS, we'll either have to come up with some other way to pull in reddit comments, or force everyone to use PieFed.
My vote is for the latter, of course!
They're very much making it hard to be a mod. I wish my community would follow me here.
reddits plan is to have AI mods to fully automate subreddits eventually. enough witht he pesky human ones that soured them in the past.
Yeah I can definitely tell. I've gotten so many messages from people about why things have been removed. I have no idea all I can see is "removed by reddit." I don't even know what your posted.
People who seem passionate about PyLova don't seem to grasp that blocking/filtering weirdos is the whole point of PieFed. I don't understand the overall reaction to PieFed doing what it does. PieFed was never meant to be an "anything goes" type of thing.
On the surface I love that there's another fediverse project to consider, but everything I've read from developers and supporters of PyLova seems like an overreaction. Lots of personal attacks and overall childish behavior. It's ok to have a different view of how social media should work, but for me I'm going to hang with the adults in the room.
If I wanted unfiltered social media full of misinformation, conspiracy theories, Russian Propaganda, etc. I'd go to Lemmy or Twitter. I don't want that, so I use PieFed.
A Call for a Freer Web
Aaron Swartz's legacy is a stark reminder of the ongoing battle for information freedom. His story indicts legal systems that can be weaponized and highlights the corporate enclosure of the digital commons.
Key Takeaways:
- The CFAA can be a tool for disproportionate prosecution and intimidation.
- Corporate imperatives can transform open platforms into controlled, monetized spaces.
- The "transfer" of concern was one of control and vision, not physical assets.
- Algorithmic curation can subtly shape discourse and limit exposure to diverse views
Swartz's life compels us to critically interrogate the forces shaping our online world. We must advocate for digital infrastructure as a public utility, renew commitment to information freedom, and collectively imagine and build digital spaces for authentic democratic participation, transcending the logic of profit and control.
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Thats like nice and all and thanks for saying the truth but my question ks what can we actually do?
(And you better not say 'just write to your representatives' please)
What we can do:
. Stop contributing to our collective demise by avoiding companies / groups that are enforcing slavery ( i.e.: Reddit, blackrock group, CCP, etc..)
. Vote everyday with your choices ( wallet, travel, etc..)
. Lead by example: Make excellence an habit!
. Support Free & Open Source Software which is privacy respecting
because of AI bots
because they want to charge people for the privilege to have their users data
Imagine thinking that a super intelligence is going to emerge from reading reddit comments.
Well, it would be smarter than if you trained it on 4chan, but not by much.
It would also be a bit less racist, but again not by much.
But it would be well versed in memeology and where to find e-thots on onlyfans.
I mean, "because of AI bots" is technically correct, but it's more because they want to control the sale of their own users' data rather than letting other bots scrape to sell.
hence the lurking.
I wish Lemmy was more popular. I still use Reddit for niche things; for example, I'm getting a new Pebble watch and I want to see posts about that. Here, the whole community has a small handful of posts. On Reddit there are new posts every day. Sigh!
I'm finding that Lemmy and the Fediverse in general isn't good enough for normie stuff, like TV and movies. Frankly, i think videogames too now that i think about it. I've seen news about videogames, but never people talking about a videogame. Even anime and manga is very limited.
I don't think that's inherently a platform limitation though. Maybe an initial hurdle for people to join, but once you're on here, you're free to talk about whatever you want.
The real issue is that AI fucking scans everything you ever post, so most people don't want to give out anything real anymore because - surprise - people like privacy.
That huge chunk of people who are aware of what's going on in the world (weird conservative global takeover) and are tech literature is basically a circle, so you don't get a ton of people on here divulging their hearts out.
Tldr basically, conservatives ruin everything.
tv and movies used to be a larger community, until the last big instance shut down. people decided to scatter to different platforms or instances, thus diluting how much topic we get on entertainment.
And the types of anime/manga you're allowed to like on Lemmy is also very narrow.
Lemmy won't ever become bigger than what it currently is. I've been waiting for years but the reality is that Lemmy will forever be a niche platform for left wing politics that's banned on Reddit and tech bros.
On here? Where?
Yeah…
AI bots….
That’s why.
its clearly a combination of shitty decisions frrom the executives at reddit, the mods, the massive invasionn of bot users and restricting API access.
The only thing I miss about reddit is access to the comments. There was often valuable troubleshooting advice in the comments for a myriad of issues. It's a real shame that they've taken this stance. Just another mistake in a long line of mistakes that is going to result in the death of the platform.
if someone else would please make an instance focusing on the 2008 nissan Xterra preferably maintaining one over 200k miles thank you
I do. But not in the way you might think. I was on reddit since nearly the beginning. It was such a great place. But then spez ruined it :(
It’s like this: fuck spez.
spez decided to run his mouth, that he liked MUSK and money more. and has heeded to every MUsk's concerned about when reddit is making musk look bad.
You do. It lives in your head rent free.
no because they banned so many people, whats left was propaganda bots, and spammers looking to earn money from rs by directing traffic to thier businesses. this effectively stopped or poisoned thier AI data scraping.
I'm in this post and I don't like it. Reddit is imploding under its own bulk and tech bro fellating. Ya hate to see it. It was so pleasant once upon a time. But alas, "Die a hero or live long enough," and all that.
It's like an old pub where you made happy youthful memories, but it closed years ago and the building is now too fundamentally rotten to ever go back to its former glory. Best thing for everyone involved is for it to burn to the ground and be replaced by something new.
Bots my ass
You can totally still do that. Docker is a thing to bundle shit up. If you're not doing that kind of thing a lot, you can skip it. That's not to say is not useful, but it's definitely not necessary.
You can still do that i think lol -- docker is basically an engine, the docker folks make sure docker is compatible with all different sorts of hardware, and you just make sure your software is compatible with docker.
Yeah kimd of. Docker is a container management system. Like a Virtual Machine except it isn't a whole OS being used to host each "virtual machine,". it connects a closed container to the kernel. So you have a container with a specific stripped down app inside it that you can connect to.
Architecture has to match though.
Right, no i know my comment was a gross oversimplification, just tried to explain it in a way someone who doesn't know anything about it could start researching more about it.
How much does it cost you to host?
When I search for things at work, and reddit may have the top result, I stopped clicking them becasue they want me to log in.
When I search for things on my phone, and reddit is one of the top results, I stopped clicking it because now it won't let me read it in browser, and forces me to use their app.
They got rid of old reddit.
Clearly they are trying to pad their logged-in user counts.
I'm done. I'm sorry to say that I'd rather have an AI-generated answer (that likely is citing the right answer on reddit anyway) than to give reddit the satisfaction of making me open their app or log in.
Fuck them.
Fuck spez.
RIP AaronSw.
Potato potato. They are joining the shit tier of websites that have "the result" you're probably looking for, but won't let you see it without logging in or using their app.
Same reason I fucking hate Instagram.
it still works on FF. on mobile its a little trickier, you use the old reddit extension and sink it or oldyesterdayreddit extension as well.
They're JUSTIFYING it with AI bots. Very different.
It is literally a corporation.
Incarnate!
Reddit is also killing itself lately. I hope it goes down forever and good platforms like Discuit or Lemmy become the mainstream thing.
I'm not so sure.
I've been on Reddit since more or less the beginning- think pre-Digg-migration. Reddit was better then for a lot of reasons, but one of the biggest was the self-selecting userbase. in general Redditors were a certain kind of people, and had a very strong sense of fairness and right/wrong. I remember hearing that a friend had started dating a new partner, and when I heard they were on Reddit I immediately made a handful of good assumptions about them (which turned out to be spot on).
The Digg migration was the start of the downfall- Reddit going mainstream. Over the last decade or so, conversations have gotten less intelligent, the noise and spam level have increased. The leadership has if anything encouraged this and rewritten the website and the app to be 'yet another scrolling app'.
Now let's say Reddit goes away. Let's say all the investors and the admins tomorrow decided to pack it up and go home. What happens to those masses of low-effort morons? They go elsewhere.
So I say long live Reddit. I wish for Lemmy to grow faster if possible, I want to be able to have all the good conversations I need here and not rely on Reddit. But if Reddit implodes tomorrow, then I see a future where all the unwashed masses migrate to Lemmy and other platforms, just like the Digg migration. Not only is Lemmy not prepared for that much traffic (I'm talking in terms of moderation, mod tools, spam filters, etc) but it would reduce the overall quality of discussions and the average intelligence level here.
I'm happy to keep Reddit mainstream if it keeps Lemmy good.
Of course I'd love a future where centralized platforms like Reddit are the exception rather than the norm, but I don't think we're overall ready to flip that switch overnight.
Reddit is also killing itself lately
lately
They did it for like like 10+ years, firing Victoria from AMAs is the first call I remember.
Right. They’re much better than Reddit these days.
I also noticed the youtube rss feeds are returning 404s now as well.
They are still working for me. Example: https://www.youtube.com/...
EDIT: This is the command I use to convert YouTube channel URLs into RSS URLs:
curl --silent "https://www.youtube.com/@thecodyreeder" \
| grep -Po '"rssUrl"\s*:\s*"[^"]+"' \
| cut -d : -f 2- | tr -d \"
But then I'd have to open the URL in the browser which needs a minute to load, and then I have to click away several cookie banners or wait for an extension to do it for me. Opening a YouTube URL always feels like I'm installing an app.
reddit dies more every day than the day before and it’s already long dead
Reddit died long ago with Aaron Swartz murder.
RIP the GOAT
From enshittified to literal shit. Now they even self-isolate that shit. Good. It will stink a bit less on the net. 🤭
I thought public API access ended years ago?
Well, this is it. Time to make my online residence on Lemmy permanent.
This will really suck for the niche communities I follow. RSS is what enabled me to follow a handful of communities that don't exist elsewhere.
They just need to die & let either open-sourced, decentralized & federated social media platforms like Lemmy, Discuit, Loops, Pixelfed, PieFed, PeerTube & Mastodon thrive, or bring back old school, traditional forums that were popular befote the big, social media boom that had happened since 2010.
Anyone with a bit of foresight could see this coming after the site became closed-source sometime around September 2017. The saddest thing is that the network effect is real, and most of the subreddits I'm interested on will not move to the Threadiverse any time soon.
What is reddit? I thought it died in like 2023. I know I haven't used it since they killed the third-party apps for it.
I thought this was what they did a few years ago.
When I look back at reddit I liken it to being on the Titanic and several hours before hitting the ice berg a group of people in a rowboat come alongside the ship and I ask to go with them because that guy is driving the ship too fast. I suck at allegories.
or when spez hatched from his alien cocoon after metamorphosis.
more like them being on the titanic, that being reddit when its about to hit the iceberg, they keep taking more and more people onto the ship, overfilling it.
Sure...
Those RSS feeds have been so heavily rate-limited over the past year that they were practically unusable already. I'm glad they're finally making an announcement about it. No more ambiguity. No more aggressively sporadic 403 and 429 errors.
Go ahead and kill the only reason I ever used your site.
True, but i can be banned for one flippant comment taken out of all reasonable context, but another comment that is perfectly fine is judged based on a trend across multiple subs?
It's just ridiculous & indicative of a race to the bottom of the sump.
Reddit feels like where "the old free internet" I used to know, has gone to be slowly euthanasised, by drowning it in ai slop, bots, & people offended that the sky is blue.
Today in "no fucking shit news" reddit continues to suck and water makes things wet. Next week on "everyone already knows this" join us when we reveal our breaking stories "republicans are traitors to the constitution, and spez sucks donkey dicks"
reddit is more akin to psyllium husk, that it took to much and clogging the insides require more invasive procedures to remove it.
There's a public API?
I knew it was time to go after the "He gets us." Jesus banner ad.
Definitely to stop their userbase using 3rd party apps and force them to use their godawful ad-hell
Lots of people here confusing scrapers with bots making posts. This is talking about the former, which I think we all agree are bad, but most people seem to think it's the latter, which reddit is happy to host.
Reddit is insufferable. It’s impossible to get an interesting convo going and the vast majority of posts are slop. Even the subreddits for hobbyists are affected. I’ll save a sad memory for the glory days but it’s time to move on.
Ditto.
Oh look, reddit removing features and making the platform worse? Anyone remember when tech got better as time went on?
Reddit said in the next few months it will limit access for logged-in users to those who have used Old Reddit in the last 6 months. (The company changed this from 90 days to 6 months, just as their news went out.)
wouldn't want anyone using old reddit?
they also dont want Lurkers either, they want those log-in. people lurk now due to reddits AI moderation being so ban heavy, and its heavy handed. they need the content to be scraped by AI.
So, if you haven't logged into Old Reddit in 6 months, or are a new user after the change takes effect, you'll just never be able to use it ever again? Holy shit that's nasty
Tbh I hope they inevitably go down. I had been on Reddit for years before they permabanned my account without warning. I literally would just post pictures of soaps I make and interact with other subs that caught my interest. I tried appealing but it was denied and I keep being ignored. Reddit is killing their user base with their AI bot BS and I miss when they weren’t so corporate
Doesn't matter, social networks are way to boring now.
i assume this affects things like libdirect, continum,,etc. old reddit still works on some browsers and 2 extensions.
I keep an eye on some communities to find when do they move over to fediverse or to classic forums. it ain't much, but it's honest waiting.
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