"Why would I spend time bonding with my kid when I can just get an AI to do it for me?"

4 days ago by destructdisc to c/fuck_ai

Ilovethebomb 258 points 4 days ago

His wife is going to leave him, and he will have no idea why.

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db_null 154 points 4 days ago

He will ask ChatGPT and it will give him an answer

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helix 108 points 4 days ago

"Tremendous observation! You were right to try to be better as a father with the help of AI. You did nothing wrong."

Probably.

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whoisearth 38 points 4 days ago

Having to use AI daily I'm curious if I'm rare in this respect.

Do other people also hate the fact that the responses are modelled in a way that are basically sucking you off?

Then when you challenge a response (they lie so goddamn much) they suck you off even more.

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FlashMobOfOne 31 points 4 days ago

I'm stuck using Copilot for work, and for 3-4 months I began every prompt with 'Do not comment or offer an opinion on my query' and eventually Copilot stopped with the sycophancy.

Now I'm actively working on deprogramming myself of the notion of speaking to it as a human and making a point to treat it like an old-school MS-DOS ish OS and give it commands instead of being conversational, because it's important to remember that this fucking thing is a computer program.

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aspirate2959 14 points 4 days ago

Absolutely. I must use Claude at work. I put instructions in my CLAUDE.MD to, "lay off the sycophantic bullshit. No praise or extraneous details, just deliver answers."

It doesn't work, per se... But it seems to reduce the attempted fellatio, at least a little.

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ZC3rr0r 5 points 4 days ago

I noticed Copilot doing this and I told it to stop that behaviour through the customization prompt. "I don't want platitudes, flattery, or an AI that agrees with me. I need an answer with sources and nothing else." seems to have fixed its worst tendencies for now.

Now that I am forced to use it for work I at least get output that's usable. The only thing that still irks me is when it attempts to speak from experience ("In my experience...") and when it attempts to humanize itself ("Personally..."). I haven't managed to kill those behaviours yet, but they are getting really annoying.

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Ilovethebomb 1 point 4 days ago

I don't use AI, mostly because I just don't see a use case for it personally, but the ass kissing is definitely something I don't enjoy either.

Being surrounded by sychophants can be a very bad thing.

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then_three_more 1 point 4 days ago

I think anyone who isn't an American hates that, and probably even some of them. For Gemini at work I've got a custom gem set up with explicit instructions to cut that shit out and just be as factual as possible.

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CheesyFingers 13 points 4 days ago

What does he need a wife for when he has ChatGPT?

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Klear 6 points 4 days ago

I dunno. Try asking ChatGPT.

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rollerbang 2 points 4 days ago

Answer: good that she left, she didn't go with the times

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GalacticSushi 1 point 3 days ago

"Your wife left you because you refused to be an active participant in your shared relationship and delegated your parental responsibilities to a glorified plagiarism machine. You're not just a useless partner โ€” you're worthless as a father at best and actively harmful at worst. "

"No, I don't think that's right. I've convinced myself that AI is the coolest, most useful thing in the world that can only make things better."

"You're absolutely right! I made the mistake of considering your wife's perspective when your opinion is the only one that matters. As an AI bro, you know better than anyone โ€” the universe revolves around you!"

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hendrik 33 points 4 days ago

And I think he wouldn't even care. I mean he's himself actively making an effort to get out of the relationship and replace himself by an AI. At that point it doesn't even matter if he's doing it, she's doing it and whether the replacement is made up of flesh and bones or electricity. He's dispensable.

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apprehensivecrab1 30 points 4 days ago

Donโ€™t worry. Heโ€™ll be able to create a sycophant AI wife shortly after

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warm -9 points 4 days ago

Shit sticks together, what makes you think she would leave?

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ParlimentOfDoom 12 points 4 days ago

What part of simply asking her husband to be involved with their child made you think she's shit? People change over time. He may have chosen a different trajectory from hers

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warm -7 points 4 days ago

Same part as what makes you guys thing she would. Basically boils down to, we have no idea what they are like!

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ParlimentOfDoom 10 points 4 days ago

We have one data point: him attempting to shirk his familial responsibility after being asked. It provides some small level of support for the stance you're arguing against.

It does not support your contrarian response at all.

So, no. It doesn't boil down to the same thing.

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AmyAye 150 points 4 days ago

Parenting hits different when you work in AI

Yeah, hits like mental abuse.

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A_Random_Idiot 60 points 4 days ago

I knew people were gonna be obsessed with AI, but I genuinely never thought people would surrender all executive function and thought to what is, ultimately, a very elaborate and planet destroying if=then machine.

the amount of people I have seen becoming totally dependent on it is ridiculous. There are people who cant even have human interaction anymore without running it through their AI model to process the message, and produce a reply.

and its 100% invading the real world too, I dont know the whole details cause you try to turn your ears off at the pharmacy to not hear other peoples private information.. but there was a woman getting very heated with one of the pharmacy people and I only took notice when she slammed her phone on the counter, aggressively pointed at it, and said very loudly "I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, LOOK, RIGHT HERE, MY AI SAYS YOU'RE WRONG" in a that kareny way that says her and her AI was 100% wrong.

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LePoisson 17 points 4 days ago

Damn I try to keep my mouth shut but if someone screamed that near me I'd be interjecting. Like goddamnit the AI does not know anything.

It's a machine modeling human speech. It's all a hallucination and sometimes that hallucination is straight up lies and sometimes, hopefully most of the time, it aligns with actual reality.

I fucking loathe that people won't take 15 minutes to just read a basic primer on what an LLM is. It's a fancy autocorrect, and yeah it's way more complex than that but at the end of a day it's made to model realistic human language output - and that's it. It doesn't have any actual knowledge, it doesn't have any way to know if what it says is true or not, and it certainly doesn't know if what it says is insane.

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echodot -10 points 4 days ago

I think I fall a bit between the people who use it for everything and your opinion of it.

I get that it's basically just a prediction engine but thinking of it like that is unhelpful in my opinion. I've seen AI rewrite entire code bases overnight that would have taken a team of humans over a year. It's obviously useful technology it's just people have this tendency to overuse it.

It's kind of like how in the early 2000s they were putting Bluetooth in everything. Eventually we'll work out what it's useful for and only use it to that we just have to wait for the frenzy to die down.

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LePoisson 15 points 4 days ago

I've seen AI rewrite entire code bases overnight that would have taken a team of humans over a year.

And was the code better, cleaner and more readable? Moreover did it actually still do what it was supposed to and not introduce further unknowns?

I get that it's basically just a prediction engine but thinking of it like that is unhelpful in my opinion.

Unhelpful in the sense that it is what it actually is or unhelpful in the sense that it makes you question the fake narrative we're getting shoveled to us by tech bros and traditional mass media?

Like that's just what it is. All I want is folks to be honest about the limitations of this tech and what is underpinning it. It's still very impressive but at the end of the day there will always be an inherent problem with LLM in that they are non deterministic - you can give the same AI the exact same prompt 10 times and you'll get 10 different replies.

There is no way to get around that. You can't have a perfectly predictable output and even 1% of the time error is not good enough for widespread adoption when a mistake could mean someone dies or is horribly injured or loses a ton of money etc etc

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echodot 5 points 4 days ago

I don't understand what people use it for. At work I use it because it's much easier to ask an AI than try and deal with our crap internal documentation. People who use AI in their personal lives are just weird to me.

The only technology I really use is a digital calendar, which is an objectively superior product to the paper-based calendar simply because it gets updated by the whole family and stays in sync. I don't have smart light switches, or cameras in every room, if a hard drive on my computer breaks then I lose all my data there's nothing on there that I really care about, I might be ultra weird because I even get my photos printed.

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bold_omi 5 points 4 days ago

I might be ultra weird because I even get my photos printed.

Bogos binted?

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Strider 1 point 3 days ago

Also using a model for this is totally missing the bonding experience.

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damnthefilibuster 112 points 4 days ago

I have a few friends who use OpenAI and Gemini to do this (generate new stories every night) and I do not understand why you would do so. There are a bazillion kids books out there. Just get ten of those and your kid will be happy for ten months!

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helix 73 points 4 days ago

Or you could make a story up ๐Ÿ˜„

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prex 22 points 4 days ago

Or tell a story of your wild & sordid youth & make it sound made up.

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GloomyDorje 8 points 4 days ago

"Aaaand that's how i met your mum, kids."

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eah 3 points 4 days ago

big_fish

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freijon 8 points 4 days ago

one of my kids loves when I tell them a made up story. I always find my stories lame and lacking didactic value when I compare them to professional audiobook stories. But when having the choice, my kid prefers my made up stories. I can't say no to that.

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then_three_more 34 points 4 days ago

Ten? They'll fixate on one that'll you'll need to read so often that you don't need the actual book anymore

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MaskedNybbles 6 points 4 days ago
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tjoa 26 points 4 days ago

there is so lovely media out thereโ€ฆ often artists/storywriters who are parents themselves. there is no other niche that I know of where you can feel the love they put in in so many works. This makes me almost want to have kids. Well or at least become a childrenโ€™s book author lol

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Hudell 7 points 4 days ago

I can imagine some reasons they would opt for this. First, the AI is always there so they don't have to do put in any effort at all in acquiring the story. Second they could make the stories tailored to what they want to teach their kid - regular kids books usually have decent morals and lessons for helping the kid become a better person and a lot of AI aficionados don't want that.

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damnthefilibuster 0 points 4 days ago

Good one.

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Sanctus 7 points 4 days ago

Why do you need an AI to do that? My grandpa used to let us just make up what we wanted to hear a story about and tell a story about that. I do the same. Its not hard. It doesnt have to be the most minted story in history.

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damnthefilibuster 4 points 4 days ago

Most people do not have an imagination.

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Semjeza 2 points 3 days ago

Sadly fewer and fewer, and those imaginations lesser and lesser.

The digital world is not freedom, is a limitation of options, engagement, and pathways.

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GalacticSushi 4 points 3 days ago

If you're in the US just sign up for Dolly Parton's Imagination Library and you'll get a free kids book for your each of your kids every month.

That woman could've been a billionaire several times over but consistently chose to reinvest her wealth into community rather than hoarding it all to herself like a dragon. What a shame she's gone.

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damnthefilibuster 2 points 3 days ago

Dragons are meant to be slain.

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BlaestEgnen 3 points 3 days ago

Not to mention the creation of a shared cultural heritage.

Most Danish kids have heard a few, or all, of HC Andersen's biggest works. It gives them something to talk about when they're socialising with other kids

If your friends kid, becomes the only kid in their class which haven't heard the stories of their local cultural heritage. That's a potential for creating a social rift in school, why have you not heard about the ugly duckling?

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Waterpumpee -40 points 4 days ago

Childrens books are expensive. A 20 pages one cost the same amount like a 700 pages roman.

We use the library but cant go there every week.

Thinking is hard after full workday + 6h intense childcare. Youll see what i mean when you have kids and do it without screentime. Zero.

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strawberry_enjoyer42 27 points 4 days ago

You could try thrifting :3

Also, you've assumed that:
A, this person wants to have kids, and
B, that this person does not have kids.

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Silic0n_Alph4 24 points 4 days ago

If youโ€™re in the U.K., The Works will sell you 10 childrenโ€™s books for ยฃ10, which is less than one hour of work at minimum wage for an adult.

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im_fine_sandy 17 points 4 days ago

I certainly wouldn't buy all our kids books brand new.

I do buy a couple of the hard cover classics.

I buy a heap from thrift stores. This is probably the majority.

We go to the library when we can.

I also pirate and print some.

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WeavingSpider 1 point 3 days ago

Do you not have access to books from when you were a kid? That's what mom did until she could buy new books.

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im_fine_sandy 1 point 3 days ago

No.

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BlaestEgnen 1 point 3 days ago

Yeah, you'll be handed a ton of books from relatives and friends if you ask openly

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LuannePlatter 16 points 4 days ago

Taking a hard stance against screen time while recruiting AI to do your parenting. Ok

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deliriousdreams 7 points 4 days ago

Libraries near me don't require you to actually go to the building to get a book. You can borrow an e-book using an app. It's not the greatest way (especially if your kid likes picture books or is that age where a lot of children's books are just picture books). But it doesn't require you to go to the library every day or even every week.

There's also no law saying you have to read to your child every night. But offloading parenting onto AI just because you're tired and want to limit their screen time. But I've gotten books, toys, movies, games, TV shows from other parents who's kids have aged out of those items a fair few times in my life. I don't think it counts as limiting screen time to have the bot read your kid a story.

Yes I have a kid. We are both special needs which means that a lot of parenting is challenging on its face.

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Waterpumpee 1 point 8 hours ago

Yeah i m also not in the bot reads league. Thought more about AI invents the story and the parent reads.

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BigPotato 7 points 4 days ago

Every child is hell in their own special way but not every day is going to be 6h 'intensive' childcare. Unless you've got an intellectually challenged child, you're going to have some days where it's easier and some where it's harder.

And, if they make it hard enough, they go to bed without a story. They cry and scream and they learn, then maybe tomorrow they'll just be hard instead of too hard.

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foofiepie 6 points 4 days ago

Interesting you used roman for novel. Are you Ukrainian or Russian? Edit: I see this is the same in a lot of languages. Could be German.

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Droechai 5 points 4 days ago

Swedes call longer stories on prose "Romaner", and we call short stories, novellas, novelletes "Noveller".

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foofiepie 4 points 4 days ago

I like languages, and am interested in the propagation of them, hence the question. Thanks for that. In English, โ€˜novellaโ€™ has persisted as a term for a shorter story/novel.

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Whats_your_reasoning 3 points 4 days ago

Huh, I was wondering what they meant by โ€œroman.โ€ TIL.

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then_three_more 6 points 4 days ago

Expensive new maybe, but...

Secondhand shops. Both online and offline.

Charity/ thrift shops.

Places like Vinted and eBay.

Ask relatives and friends for books instead of yet another toy.

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Whats_your_reasoning 3 points 4 days ago

Iโ€™ve seen so many sales at the library, where books are sold for a few cents each.

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AdolfSchmitler 102 points 4 days ago

Me: "Why dont you come visit and talk to me in the nursing home?"

My kids: "just talk to grok"

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Prior_Industry 25 points 4 days ago

I'm sure there is a good few older people who would find a lot of comfort in Groks world view.

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Bytemeister 2 points 3 days ago

AI companies build their services to get users hooked. Their LLMs adopt your worldview by design

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Daft_ish 2 points 3 days ago

Must think youre an elon fan

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Denjin 102 points 4 days ago

I'm so glad AI is here to relieve me of the physically and mentally overwhelming task of checks notes spending time with my child.

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slaacaa 26 points 4 days ago

More time left for what truly matters: creating shareholder value

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Daft_ish 1 point 3 days ago

Priorities

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the_riviera_kid 78 points 4 days ago

That poor kid, Imagine your own father thinks so little of you that he would rather spend 10X the time to train a clanker just so he doesn't have to spend time with you.

I'm guessing some day he will be one of those oblivious assholes on facebook whining because his kids cut off contact.

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D_C 27 points 4 days ago

"Dad, do you want to play catch?"

"Who are you? Oh, ohhhh...Best I can do is get one of those dog ball throwing machine things!"

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im_fine_sandy 13 points 4 days ago

"Ok Google, buy me a dog ball throwing machine"

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Mpeach45 72 points 4 days ago

Parenting hits really different when youโ€™re an idiot and a sociopath.

Alvin there doesnโ€™t want to bother talking to his child.

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tauonite 70 points 4 days ago

Parenting hits different when your intelligence is artificial

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samus12345 68 points 4 days ago

I thought this was satire, but it appears to be real.

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deadbeef79000 12 points 4 days ago

This is exactly what I came into the comments to see.

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Bytemeister 3 points 3 days ago

Same. If it wasn't here, then I was just going to have to post it.

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cannedtuna 9 points 4 days ago

Futurama just gets it

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nyan_kas 53 points 4 days ago

Man, I feel kinda sorry for that guy. He must have had terrible parents, if he perceives story time as a chore instead of an opportunity to bond with your child. He should probably get some professional help to work through his horrible childhood. Though his next tweet would probably be โ€žIโ€˜ve replaced my therapist with an AI and now Iโ€˜m even more confident that everyone else is wrong!โ€œ

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im_fine_sandy 19 points 4 days ago

Its bonkers but some men are raised to believe that their role when not at work is to do as little as possible.

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ParlimentOfDoom 9 points 4 days ago

When my kids were in pre-k, there was a Donuts with Dad day where the fathers would come in to visit. I was appalled to see so many of the fathers just standing in a corner talking to each other, completely ignoring their kids rampaging around the room hitting each other with things. Like, your kid is beating on another kids and you're not even glancing in that direction even after you were finally roused to tell him to stop 2 other times.

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SkunkWorkz 3 points 4 days ago

Unfortunately the Asian parent stereotype is true for many Asian parents. Bet his mom still calls him a failure because his cousin is a doctor.

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a_non_monotonic_function 51 points 4 days ago

That's not true. My father was a terrible parent and that was decades ago. Tech Bros. think they invented bad parenting now.

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cantstopthesignal 14 points 4 days ago

Honestly the best thing my father could have done for me was not try to parent me because he was a fucking asshole that had no idea how to relate to children. I guess you could say I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

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StabbingSky 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I'm glad my dad was absent so I didn't get his attachment disorder

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jve 3 points 3 days ago

Whatโ€™s not true?

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a_non_monotonic_function 4 points 3 days ago

This dude clearly thinks he invented bad parenting.

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jve 1 point 3 days ago

Interesting take. Why do you think so?

Clearly theyโ€™re a bad parent, but I donโ€™t see any claims of originality in there whatsoever.

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raspberriesareyummy 42 points 4 days ago

This is ragebait. Right? People can't possibly be that shitty...

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4grams 40 points 4 days ago

As a parent who interacts with other parents, I can assure you some are.

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raspberriesareyummy 10 points 4 days ago

:(

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PattyMcB 7 points 4 days ago

My ex would do it. Probably wouldn't tweet about it (she's a covert narcissist)

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im_fine_sandy 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah but they would have the self awareness to realise that this is shit parenting right?

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Tartufo 17 points 4 days ago

As someone who had to endure shit parents as a child: They don't.

They will rather go win gold in mental gymnastics than to allow any form of self-awareness from developing, too.

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PattyMcB 6 points 4 days ago

And then emotionally blackmail you to try and get you to take the blame for it

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Bugamn 9 points 4 days ago

I watched a presentation from a big tech company in which the presenter talked how, while his wife was giving birth, he saw that as an opportunity and asked AI to build a "nursery design" site because he could use his daughter as a model. People were praising him for being forward thinking about providing to his family, I just couldn't imagine being this greedy.

I saw people from the same company eagerly discussing using AI to recreate dead relatives. It's disgusting how much these people are hypnotized by AI

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raspberriesareyummy 4 points 4 days ago

Ow. Then again, the snake oil vendors would of course be this stupid/cynical. I am surprised at users being lost enough to actually do s.t. like this.

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InputZero 2 points 4 days ago

I said this the other day, it's a story. Regardless of whether or not it's ragebait it has a kernel of truth existing inside a story. Could this have happened, sure. Is it an objective truth? Most definitely not.

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parrhesia 1 point 4 days ago

There was a clip from legal eagle that the victims sister used his pictures to create an ai video of him to present at trial. I don't know if its shitty... but its fucking weird man

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raspberriesareyummy 0 points 3 days ago

it is awful that a judge doesn't throw out such evidence and the witness with it.

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Daft_ish 41 points 3 days ago

Brought to you by the creators of, "just give them an ipad" and "call the cops there's a kid outside playing"

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usualsuspect191 31 points 4 days ago

Siri, play Cats in the Cradle

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fishy 6 points 4 days ago

This song fucked me up when my first was born.

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myyass 30 points 4 days ago

I know this is about the AI but the unaddressed elephant in the room is that people romanticize the idea of having children and realizing it's not what they expected or really wanted. Society constantly puts pressure on people having kids.

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Funkt4st1c 17 points 4 days ago

I know people who would die to have children so they can see them become successful well adjusted adults. Those people can have kids.

I also know people who dont want to have kids. They dont have to.

I also also know people who really want kids, but in the way a person would want a dog, so they can train it to be good, hit it when its bad, and itll never be older than 3 years because they havent thought that far ahead. These people should be sterilized.

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myyass 4 points 4 days ago

Hah yeah I agree on the last statement. That's why I have such a negative outlook on the subject. Once you fill out CPS reports, you start to have more negative outlooks such as maybe there should be a license to have kids.

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GreenKnight23 11 points 4 days ago

people romanticize the idea of having children and realizing it's not what they expected

dude....so much this.

I had zero romantic thoughts of having kids. I didn't even want them, honestly. my wife and literally everyone around us on the other hand, very much so wanted us to have kids.

don't judge though. as a current parent I don't ignore my responsibilities and fully intend on giving my kids the best I can. at least, a better more loving home than I had.

but man, life would be so much easier without them. I literally could be on a beach somewhere in the world right now if I didn't have kids. have lunch in Paris. then stop by in Denmark for some dinner.

by the time they can stand on their own I'll be dead. so now I can only save money in hopes to help soften any financial hardships they will need to endure.

I've been playing around with the idea of recording some "dad's wisdom" videos for them when they get older and I'm not around.

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myyass 5 points 4 days ago

The video idea sounds pretty good.

I went separate ways with my ex-fiancee over this topic. It wasn't so much as I was against having kids, I had conditions such as financial stability and owning a home. And deep down I didn't want to take care of two people and be financially responsible for everything, my ex-fiancee already had a hard time holding down a job.

But like you said, even now that I have my own place, I'm more motivated to travel than get into that lifestyle. I'm sure I would have been a decent parent having worked in education but the tradeoffs are too steep for me.

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davetortoise 25 points 4 days ago

The setting he chooses, his wife asking him to do a basic parenting activity which he should want to do anyway, speaks volumes

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ParlimentOfDoom 7 points 4 days ago

And the one thing that would leave me feeling too exhausted to want to read to my kids (but would anyway), is work. The last thing I would replace that with... Is more work.

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cinoreus 25 points 4 days ago

So will the divorce bud.

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Cheese_man 24 points 4 days ago

It will not only work for you, but will play and love for you, too.

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strawberry_enjoyer42 9 points 4 days ago

Oh no, it doesn't do work, silly!

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Whats_your_reasoning 6 points 4 days ago

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Rawrosaurus 22 points 4 days ago

Oh. A future dad who will wonder why his kid never visits or even calls. I feel like I have seen this play out a hundred times before, but now they can use "AI" as an excuse.

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nibbler 5 points 4 days ago

It's easy, just train an AI to call your dad.... there are actually services for that!! https://www.senior/ talk.com/ (with a dash in between, no space, no slash after "senior" obv)

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FriendOfDeSoto 20 points 4 days ago
  1. Is this from Xwitter? And if so, why? Nothing on that platform is worthy of our time and attention.

  2. Even if it isn't Xwitter. This could be just a joke. Admittedly, not a good one. But a screenshot may not be enough to banish this father of the year.

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destructdisc 25 points 4 days ago
  1. Yes
  2. It isn't. He's doubling down in the replies
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decolo 15 points 4 days ago

Ooh, I'd love to see the followup

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MountingSuspicion 6 points 4 days ago

Lmao. I like how he responds that he'd rather spend the time cuddling his kid or playing or something important. It makes it obvious he's never once read to his child before because they generally love to cuddle up and read and point and laugh and joke while reading. If you don't think reading to your child is inherently a togetherness activity then you're doing it wrong.

Also this was pretty funny: https://twitterviewer.net/...

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MousePotatoDoesStuff 5 points 4 days ago

Screenshots, pls?

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mycodesucks 18 points 4 days ago

What more proof do you need that these miserable people are completely joyless than the fact that they immediately automate everything people find enjoyable just because they can?

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MonkeMischief 3 points 4 days ago

"But for the briefest of moments, he did generate a blip of revenue for shareholders."

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okwhateverdude 17 points 4 days ago

Driving a car requires a test and licensing. Somehow, raising a child doesn't require something similar.

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im_fine_sandy 13 points 4 days ago

Because any kind of test or restriction leads to eugenics which is ethically unconscionable.

Loads of your and my ancestors were scum bag parents.

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Tartufo 2 points 4 days ago

Part of the problem is that even people who are truly adamant about not wanting kids won't be sterilised in all cases no matter how much they want it. Took me about 20 years of constantly being on the verge of almost killing myself and being potentially dangerous to others before I managed to find someone who'd make sure I can never reproduce ever.

Everyone else insisted I'd just eventually find the correct partner.

Getting it done finally gave me my much needed peace of mind and as a result has drastically reduced the amount of problems I had.

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funkless_eck 7 points 4 days ago

What would you even test for that wouldn't accidentally be either testing for English language skills or the ability to lie?

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v4ld1z 3 points 4 days ago

You can set up a situation in which you observe the way a parent interacts with a kid. They way they talk with the child, the way they play together are all incredibly important for good language development and can be an indicator for how the parent will be interacting with their child at home once they're born.

Even having classes where future parents learn about how to raise their child in a good way would be a good start. Make it mandatory and not something you choose to do. Chances are that parents who do partake in such classes aren't the parents that need to be taught about it in the first place.

Point is, there's plenty things you can and should offer - everything's better than having nothing of that sort right now.

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funkless_eck 4 points 4 days ago

Thats 140,000,000 babies interacting with 280,000,000 parents every year in the US alone, for this test with even a 1% failure rate means 3 million forced abortions or sterilizations from the government per year.

Now you've also enrolled 280 million in an educational classes - about 12x the university population of the USA, or 2.8x the population of elementary, middle and secondary schools combined.

Assuming the costs scale similarly you're looking about an additional $300 billion USD in costs, increasing the average persons yearly tax by about $900.

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ParlimentOfDoom 3 points 4 days ago

I mean, anything else is eugenics, so...

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lemmyng 17 points 4 days ago

I almost thought this was Clammy "Raped My Sister" Sammy's AI podcast post that Alex Hirsch of Gravity Falls fame responded to with "or you could just talk to your kids".

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Zerush 17 points 3 days ago

Same

vgy.me

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PattyMcB 15 points 4 days ago

Poor kid

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NotAnOtter 14 points 3 days ago

I saw this on Reddit and saw everyone taking it seriously and thought "Ha, the lack reading literacy on this site is insane".

But you guys are doing the same thing.

This is a parody guys. Calm down.

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PhoenixDog 14 points 3 days ago

This is a parody guys. Calm down.

How are those of us who aren't chronically online supposed to know some douche on Twitter is a parody account or not?

Because people like this guy literally exist in real life.

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merrickal 4 points 3 days ago

And seeing how often people take things way too seriously and jump at things out of context, it wonโ€™t surprise me that post will likely encourage others to do this. Monkey see, monkey do.

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fckusa 2 points 3 days ago

@merrickal @PhoenixDog I would bet there is at least one "proud" dad who already did this without inspiration. It's no big leap from "funny" sloppictures or Birthdaysongs to a clanker "singing" Lullabies and "reading" a good night story in the parents voice.
I imagine Bob bragging at work with his version of "A Day in the life of Marlon Bundo" he made for his kids.

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fckusa 1 point 3 days ago

@merrickal @PhoenixDog Just looked it up and recognised my mistake. I thought both versions were called "a day in the life of marlon bundo" but the one for Sloplovers was "Marlon Bundo A day in the life of the Vice President"

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rob_t_firefly 7 points 3 days ago

Poe's law teaches us that any satire, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from sincerity.

Or, as John Scalzi puts it:

  1. The effectiveness of clever on other people is highly contingent on outside factors, over which you have no control and of which you may not have any knowledge; i.e., just because you intended to be clever doesnโ€™t mean you will be perceived as clever, for all sorts of reasons.

  2. The failure mode of clever is โ€œasshole.โ€

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Earthwormjim91 2 points 3 days ago

How โ€œadvancedโ€ the satire is is a sliding scale though, depending on the intelligence of the audience.

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AVincentInSpace 4 points 3 days ago

Poe's law.

I've seen tech bros unironically argue that

  • The sole purpose of art is the end product
  • The objectively correct thing to do with a piece of human-made art that is not up to your standard of quality is to feed it through an image to image model to "improve" it so that it is up to a publishable standard
  • Their LLM is better than them at their day job
  • Resolving marital disputes by asking ChatGPT who's right is an appropriate thing to do
  • Letting an LLM answer every single email you get eliminates the need to read them yourself
  • An LLM is sapient and has its own thoughts and opinions
  • Making and eating food is a waste of time, and eliminating it from their day using meal replacement shakes feels "liberating"

In light of that, this isn't too farfetched.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 4 points 3 days ago

Connect your family calendars and explain your kids' interests. Every morning for the drive to school, have it make a podcast that talks about one kid's soccer game that afternoon, one kid's upcoming birthday, some news, etc.

  • Sam Altman
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chewypoops 2 points 3 days ago

Honestly, Lemmy used to be a refreshing departure from Reddit when people were joining because they hated Spez for political reasons, but now people just hate ads and are miffed about the moderator upheaval. Lemmy is basically just ad-free Reddit with worse moderation now.

Overall, it's still better than Reddit, but that's a low bar. I'm starting to think that social media, federated or not, is a bad idea. We need to bring back topical forums and ban people for being off-topic and wrong.

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PhoenixDog 3 points 3 days ago

I'm starting to think that social media, federated or not, is a bad idea.

Starting?

I miss the days of just simple message boards and shit.

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Smaile 1 point 3 days ago

This site is for ex redditer so I'm not suprised in the least.

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mushroommunk 1 point 3 days ago

Yeah.... I've been sent enough AI generated voice memos that I'm not so sure it's parody. Maybe this specific guy, but I 100% believe there's people out there doing it.

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lechekaflan 13 points 3 days ago

Fucking loser.

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Pratai 12 points 4 days ago

That these degenerates think this is an acceptable method of parenting illuowhy they shouldnโ€™t have kids.

Fucking morons.

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betanumerus 12 points 4 days ago

"Why would I bother enjoying life when I can just program a robot to enjoy life for me?"

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Goldholz 12 points 4 days ago

LinkedinLunatics

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diegantobass 12 points 4 days ago

It feels really good to have those anti-role models around

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cantstopthesignal 8 points 4 days ago

This reminds me of the programmer who wrote a script to text his girlfriend at random intervals to say one of a list of phrases like "I am thinking about you," or "How is your day going?" Big tech thinks that all human interaction can be automated and when it comes to getting people addicted to and entirely dependent on social media they are kind of right.

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Ilovethebomb 6 points 4 days ago

The concept of "it's the thought that counts" is lost on these people.

Seriously, how do they not see the issue with automating a script that says "I'm thinking of you".

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bitjunkie 3 points 4 days ago

I know right, make her text you

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Taleya 8 points 3 days ago

I don't believe that man has ever touched a fellow human enough to marry, let alone procreate

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strop 8 points 3 days ago

She should train a not-divorced-woman model

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echodot 7 points 4 days ago

Okay so this is how you get an AI dystopia. Yes you have to have massive amounts of AI in everything but you also have to have idiots that insist on using it for everything.

We could just automate all the crap jobs people don't like e.g. most of the jobs and to be honest most of them probably don't need doing anyway, and still be human.

Oh we can go down this idiots route.

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daggermoon 7 points 4 days ago

These kids are gonna kill themselves. Don't have kids if you don't have time to spend with them.

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Jankatarch 6 points 4 days ago

"I can read books to a dataset 10 times more than I would read to my son over his lifetime, and all of that only to train a model that talks somewhat like me sometimes."

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wewbull 5 points 3 days ago

Worked for Kal-el

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mushroommunk 1 point 3 days ago

Okay, as soon as our planet breaks apart in a world ending way, I'll allow an AI voice to read kids bedtime stories

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wewbull 1 point 2 days ago

I think they're working on that.

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Ophrys 5 points 4 days ago

If this is real that guy is an absolute psycho who probably shouldn't be responsible of children.

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Gladaed 4 points 4 days ago

Increasing the reach of the mentals won't do good to your mentals.

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solidus 3 points 3 days ago

These people are becoming parodies now. Im convinced they are trolling us

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RodgeGrabTheCat 2 points 4 days ago

In the words of Homer Simpson "It's funny cause it's true". Well, actually it's sad.

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puz 1 point 2 days ago

So this dude works in AI but can't read?

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jpreston1986 -1 points 4 days ago

Just finished reading Neal Stephenson's "Diamond Age," which is kind of a sequel to "Snow Crash," (both are great books, I recommend them).

In it, there's a sophisticated kind of AI book that's used to teach children, and the stories are read aloud. But, they don't have the AI read the stories, specifically because the children can tell when it's automated, and won't listen, so they have to use voice actors specifically for it, that are kept on payroll (in a manner of speaking).

I used to think that AI could never replicate videos to a realistic degree but, uh, here we are. I wonder how long until it can read something aloud and pass as human.

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queermunist 8 points 4 days ago

I hate the way people just assume that technology gets infinitely better over time and there aren't limitations on anything.

You're basically doing the same thing people in the 1950s used to do when they assumed we'd be flying to work on jetpacks by now.

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Afaithfulnihilist -9 points 4 days ago

I think the most useful thing I've ever gotten out of AI is its ability to take notes on meetings so I don't really have to be more present for some of them then listening for my name. The amount of meeting time I get to double book as playground time or reading Dr Seuss has made me seek out every possible meeting on an get booked in.

It's great, I look like a real gogetter at work and my kid gets to swing until she gets bored of it. Sometimes I wonder if the increase in meetings over the past year is everybody maximizing this loophole together unspoken.

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Daft_ish 0 points 3 days ago

Yay, get to experience being in a meeting and then being in that same meeting by myself!

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