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We really need self-service machine sections for those who are familiar with them and a beginner zone
We need to also test your ability to spend money. I swear people at self checkout act like they have never used a credit/debit card in there life.
But also at regular checkouts.
You've just stood there motionless for the last 4 minutes, while someone else (potentially two people) scanned and bagged your purchases for you.
How is it that JUST NOW is the time you've decided is right to rummage through your bag for your wallet/purse, or check your banking app on your phone to see if the account actually has money in it? What were you doing for the rest of the time that was so vitally important?
I swear you can just about hear the birds flying around in their head sometimes.
There's one bird in their head that's half alive just bouncing around like the DVD logo.
I worked in grocery stores when I was younger, not going to give away my age, but I will tell you that people wrote a lot more checks then.
The number of times I would get to the end of the transaction and tell somebody the total and they would slowly pull the checkbook out of their purse or pocket, then other questions, do you have a pen?,what's today's date?, Oops I wrote it out to the wrong store, I need to start over.
I used to work at this kiosk which was inside a café. A customer wanted to pay from the inside, which can happen, but it's rare. Since the reader was cable wired to the plug at the window, I had to bring it to where he was standing, but the cable wasn't long enough. I pulled it out as much as I could, and waited for him to step forward and reach out with his card in his hand.
He was just standing there, waving his card at the machine from ~3-4 feet away. Like, I don't know, at one point the card reader would go "HEY, that card is Larry! Hi, Larry, how are you doing, you old sonofabitch?"
i worked at a grocery store for a few years, you want to go after 7pm and all your wishes will come true
I love to go as early as possible. There are only old people around me and everything is calm and chill.
God forbid you need to check out (only one checkout lane open bc it's so early) right behind one of those old people as they take about 65 centuries to pull exact change out of their asses
The other day I went shopping with my parents and my mother proceeded to pull out a whole lot of coupons. Clearly they are not long for this world.
Although I will give her credit, they were all actually in date
lol. But in all seriousness I don't mean any disrespect just venting my frustrations as it seems time slows to a halt when checking out. So even if it only takes them a couple minutes to get their shit together it feels like 30 minutes.
Good thing many stores in Germany have self-Service checkouts. Easy and quick!
They're very common in the U.S., too, in the past six years.
At first, I was against them, because of fewer people being employed, and I'd be "working for free", but the much shorter wait convinced me. Also, Walmart employs a bunch of people to do the pick-up shopping, so, I think the number of people employed has stayed the same. Although, I suspect they pay the pickers less.
I refuse to use the pick-up shopping because half of my shopping is fresh vegetables, and I don't trust anyone else to choose them for me. Yeah, I want two onions, but I want big ones, and ones with no mold or bruises. Food is expensive, and I don't want to pay for poor quality. Yeah, I want a bunch of celery, but if the organic looks better than the normal, I might pay a bit extra for that this time. Paid pickers can't make those choices for me.
Depends on the region. I only know a handful of stores in my town that offer it. It's not uncommon for the lanes to be closed.
Reliably the largest grocery stores on the edge of town have them and they are always open. In town, near the train station, or in the surrounding villages not so much
I'm one of those old people. We know what's up.
Going early and going late often helps a lot with avoiding people who meander around blocking movement through the store.
Unfortunately, where I live is pretty heavily populated so the shelves are also a lot more empty if I go late or go too early.
make sure to speak to the manager or other person in charge when you find empty shelves
that will usually get some attention on it, the bread and dairy isles get beat up the most because they are usually only worked once a day unless someone complains (from my experience). The bread isle was my space when I moved on and it was almost impossible to keep filled because a bunch was vendor controlled but I always had store brand or generic stuff to fill the empty spaces before I'd leave for the day
someone was supposed to face it a few times a day but rarely did that happen unless the manager noticed or someone complained
polite customer complaints are powerful motivation in my experience
I remember my days as a cashier when a guy in his 50s came up to buy something and was just like "I don't know how this works my wife does the shopping". I just scanned his items and gave him the total. Once again he couldn't understand.
I had to give this grown man step by step instructions on making a purchase. Including how to use a card for payment.
It was wild. Even in a world where his wife does the shopping has he never ran into a gas station for a snack or gone to lunch on his own?
Even in a world where his wife does the shopping has he never ran into a gas station for a snack or gone to lunch on his own?
When you willfully reject responsibility, you don't think clearly. Human capabilities like pattern recognition will be ignored.
Could just also have been outright fear. Waaay too many people did this for computers in the 90's and 00's They hit something they don't understand and they just freeze.
I had this nurse out of state. She had worked her entire life on paper. Xeroxed forms, filled them out, filed them. She was only in her 30's. We were a big healthcare company, and she started working for us. We had a strong need to have things digitized. She had just convinced her coworker to key in all her forms after she took care of them, but the situation was untenable. Her boss called me, we need her to have her own computer so she can learn to use it. AOK, I configured and mailed one right away.
Boss calls me back, a week later. so and so can't get on. OH OK!, what's the error? You'll need to talk to her. That's fine can you put her on? Ohh um she just left. K, can you have her call me when she gets back and we'll sort it out right away.
A day goes by, Two, Boss calls me, So and So still can't get on. She never called me, yeah let me put her on the line.
[muffled argument]
[long silence]
soandso: meekest voice hello
me: HI! let's get you on your laptop, this should only take a second.
soandso: mumbles
me: i missed that, what was that?
[long silence]
me: I hear you can't get on your laptop, let's fix that. Did your password just not work? where did you get stuck?
[long silence]
soandso: mumbles
me: I can't hear you, if you speak up a touch, we'll get you going
[long silence]
soandso: almost a whisper I don't know what to do
Me: quiet and reserved, shooting for soothing ok, that's not a problem, we'll go through step by step until it works, do you have the laptop in front of you?
soandso: a whisper yes
Me: is it open?
soandso: a whisper no
Me: ok, lets open it up, do you see a button on the front, you'll need to press that and pull up on the lid
[long silence]
soandso: light sobbing it's still in the box
me: [internally: JESUS] ok, no proble, let's get that box open
90 minutes, in an hour and half, we got the box open, got the laptop out, opened it up, too a 5 minute break to sob and then re-collect herself. found the power button (this took 10 minutes alone) it was on the upper right of the keyboard, she made me walk her up from control, to shift to enter and so on. It came on, it was already setup for their wifi, all she had to do was enter the username and password which i had emailed to her boss and asked her to write it on a sticky.
She finally was on the desktop
soandso: morose now what
me: We're done, you'll need to work with your boss now to find out how to do your actual work on it, but you should be able to get in now.
She lasted another week before they fired her.
She was an RN, she knew medical coding, and she drove, she was just terrified of learning new shit
Working retail, or any job with the public, is wild.
It might be a matter of just being under a rock for the last 10-20 years. Retail PoS systems have changed quite a bit in that time, but how you interface with gas pumps and dining, hasn't changed at all.
Also: a lot of folks navigate digital systems by rote memorization and don't read or think all that much. If you throw a new interface in front of them, just sit back and watch the bewilderment. Gotta give people like that time to learn it all.
This is the core problem, right here. At a minimum, people need training to learn what information to ignore so you can navigate the whole thing. Even if you know the store's layout, you still need to have the will to ignore advertising and disregard extraneous information. Being a fast reader that can do fast mental math, also helps tremendously.
Traffic flow is another problem. Wegmans is the chief offender here, IMO, by putting impulse items in massive crates that crowd the store entrance+exit combo. It amazes me that it's not a fire hazard, because it makes entering the store a nightmare. But most grocery stores have awful choke points in produce, dairy, meat, and other high-traffic areas. And of course those are the stores that have no small carts or hand-baskets, obligating customers to gum up the works with big metal baskets that are 70% empty.
A better idea is a store that doesn't flood your eye sockets with information you don't absolutely need. Get rid of the special displays, end-cap bullshit, and vendor promotional stuff. Then, normalize all the price tags and include unit cost per lb/oz/L/whatever to make bargain hunting a snap. Then, measure the fucking carts and make sure that two can get by everywhere in the store. Finally, pick a store layout and stick to it.
I want to say that Aldi is already doing all of the right things, but I could be wrong.
Aldi is by far my favorite. No nonsense, good prices. You're in, you're out. I appreciate they don't play games.
The only thing that might be a problem is that milk and butter is at the back. But that is actually fine because everyone goes clockwise around the aisles, and there is room to pass, so it flows really easily. You go past all the basics you might need in like a minute.
I always figured milk and butter is at the back to minimize refrigeration loss from the front door opening
Lots of the time it is a fire hazard, but unless the Fire Marshall knows about it nothing gets done.
Fire code is usually checked when the building is built or if there's a remodel, but otherwise most places can go a long, long time without a fire inspection unless there's a specific complaint.
Reporting suspected safety issues to the Fire Marshall or Building Official is okay. You're not being a Karen. Building and Fire codes are written in response to avoidable tragedies and should be followed.
That's a good call. I kinda/sorta figured that the fire department would see it sooner or later, but that's clearly not the case.
Fire Marshalls in many places are way too bust for random safety inspections. They're reviewing plans, inspecting new buildings and remodels, and sometimes also doubling as the city's arson investigators. And in some jurisdictions they're also the fire chief.
Fucking Weggels... [what we call it at work] Those stores are laid out like some kid did a drawing and used AI to make a store out of it.
I need some gluten free crackers for my sister in law for Christmas, are they in the cracker isle, the gluten free isle, the cheese section? Two stores near me don't even place them in the same location.
Ohh glass bottles of water! Let's recycle! They're in bulk this week, next week they're in the water isle, next week the fancy drink isle.
Lol, what? I have no issue navigating one. "Overloads you with information", for fuck's sake, they're selling thousands of things.
You really should look into it more (it's not a secret if you look for it) because OP is right. Yes, they're selling thousands of things BUT they're also designing that space to make you take as long as possible to get through it. The answer for why that is, is simple. People buy more. You don't have to have an "issue" navigating with it, because you just don't notice if you spend 5 minutes more walking through the place. If it was so egregious to be noticed easily by people, they would stop coming and the benefit evaporates. So it's a balance.
It's not even that, grocery stores bake bread and spread bread smell since it perks people up and makes them more willing to spend, play specific music that calms and soothes you so you'll walk slower. When you walk into a grocery store, you are walking through a highly specialized environment to maximize profits.
they’re also designing that space to make you take as long as possible to get through it
I get eggs, meat, veggies, and a few things from the mexican food section. When I don't immediately know where something is, I ask an employee.
grocery stores bake bread and spread bread smell since it perks people up
I haven't noticed this in a grocery store for years.
play specific music that calms and soothe
The top 40 from 30-10 years ago?
I'm betting that, yes, at some point the stores thought of all these ideas and talked them up to potential investors or whatever. But then they actually looked into them and found they didn't replicate, and so they just do whatever now
You are not everyone. It doesnt have to work on everyone to be effective. And at the end if you want to reject it or not, it's there, you can read up on it if you didnt already make up your mind. For grocery stores, ignoring the science is playing with large sums of money, so they do care.
EDIT: I'll give you a start: https://www.sciencedirect.com/...
A possible strategy to increase the bread consumption is to make bread more attractive, for example by using bread aroma. Supermarkets and bakeries have long been using bread aromas to facilitate sales of bread in general. The smell of freshly-baked bread is supposed to guide consumers towards the bread department and increase sales. Even though this kind of use of aromas has to the best of our knowledge not been scientifically tested, other effects of bread aroma such as improving mood have been demonstrated (Zhou, Ohata, & Arihara, 2016). More in general, food aromas have been shown to increase food appetite for congruent products, in terms of both taste and energy density, irrespective of hunger state (Zoon, de Graaf, & Boesveldt, 2016). Food aromas also affected food choice, where for example exposure to citrus aroma reduced selection of cheese (de Wijk & Zijlstra, 2012). Also, aromas have been found to affect behavior in restaurants (Guéguen & Petr, 2006), and shops (de Wijk, Maaskant, Kremer, Holthuysen, & Stijnen, 2017). The reported effects of aromas on food appetite, food choice and behavior in an eating environment motivated the hypothesis that bread aroma may increase bread liking and wanting, and affect choice behavior of bakery products.
Or if you want a video with sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8pVOe_8zQ
EDIT2: One of the papers also mentions this:
Although the marketing systems and displays within grocery stores were comparable between the United States (US) and Switzerland, the Swiss system was found to exhibit fewer profit-based marketing tactics. Moreover, strategies that are used in Switzerland were found to be less forceful
So you should also take into account that you may simply live in a place that doesn't push these tactics too hard. But that is irrelevant to if they work or not.
Is there anything you fucking morons won't whine about? How do they design the space to do that?
It’s not even that, grocery stores bake bread and spread bread smell since it perks people up and makes them more willing to spend, play specific music that calms and soothes you so you’ll walk slower
Jesus fucking Christ, listen to yourself. Everything is a conspiracy to you goddamn idiots.
What kind of music are they supposed played? Speed metal?
Baking bread on site is a conspiracy? Maybe people like fresh bread, dumbass. Do you think the supermarket is what makes people like fresh bread. You need to seek help, this paranoia is to the point neurological concern.
This isn't a conspiracy, nor a secret, and nobody is claiming it is. It's just psychology for the sake of profit maximization, which literally every company that likes to make a profit participates in. Why are you winding yourself up so much over something so uncontroversial?
You should go work in retail for a year or two, because then you will know this isn't exactly uncommon knowledge and even the people stocking the shelves know about it. Hell people that understand psychology need to shop too, so they know it too as they move through the store. If it's a conspiracy to you, that says more about you than anybody else.
The fucking floor displays in aisles that create chokepoints, and then aisles that have a bunch of popular shit all together creating a traffic jam. And don't get me started on the lack of manned checkout lines anymore. Self-checkout is adequate as express lanes (i.e. limited number of items, limited produce, no alcohol) but sucks if you are buying more.
I try to go later in the evening to avoid the rush.
The most annoying thing about the self checkout is the need for you to put the entirety of your shopping on the time you weighing plate to make sure that I'm not buying my weekly shop but then sneaking a bottle of water past the system.
At least the IKEA self checkouts don't do that. They let me buy my Pœlēøïng in peace
i also bring my own shopping bags. the grocery store here (the only one, a walmart) disabled the scales because they don't have the staffing to deal with all the false positives, i guess.. but anyway, i've gotten to just taking the wireless hand scanner (which is much quicker than the register's scanner) and scanning stuff in the cart and then bagging it right away--all right in the cart. only produce gets put up by the register, since it needs to be weighed anyway.
It's really the worst. For the uninitiated, the platen where your bags go is actually a scale. The self-check-kiosk software waits for this bagging scale to quit moving (see: de-bouncing) before weighing and approving the scan and purchase of a single item. This is why, occasionally, if you're too fast or too slow, the kiosk gets angry and makes you flag down an attendant.
That's not a problem for 10 items or less, but for a whole cart? All that waiting around adds up. Because of all that, it's literally impossible to achieve the same or better speed than an employee.
Just try find and track the price per kg of a good, and you are in deep shit. Its some times hidden, after several "get the app", "two for one" just to find out the good is fucking more expensive if you refuse go though the privacy invasing hoops. What the fuck happended to "Limited time offer until this actually cheap batch is sold out!"
It's almost a straight ass grid. How are you being disoriented lol
Apparently it's a conspiracy that they play pop music and offer fresh bread on premises.
These people are fucking idiots.
It definitely plays into that. But just the other day i was shopping on a pretty busy day, and someone just left their child in the cart playing Fortnite in the middle of the store. Every one bumper cart pushed him out of their way, into someone else's way. The kid didn't even bother to look up. Some people just don't give a shit.
The people stocking the shelves aren't the ones designing the store layout, dummy.
The stores are told on a corporate level that items need to be stocked on certain shelves and all essential items (milk, eggs, whatever) need to be buried in the back behind anything that's on sale so customers have to look at everything before getting the basics.
Workers are people who follow orders and have to live with the chaos and help customers actually find the item they're looking for even though the company as a whole is the problem
No they aren't. They have reset crews that come and change the layout for many reasons. I was a grocery manager for 15 years. Specifically the stocking manager. There has never been a "bombard them with information" directive.
It's what sells best in the area and make it available. It's not that highly coordinated.
"15 items or less" lanes should charge extra for going over. 0-20 no charge, 21+ = $1 per extra item (including the 16-20). That money goes towards whoever uses the register after you.
I'll do one better.
Every extra item gets to be used against the customer to harm them.
The extra item is a can of tuna? Well, we'll beat you with the tuna. The extra item is a hammer? Well, apologies my good man, but you know the rule.
We shouldn't jump straight into violence, so how about after 5 minutes we're allowed to beat them with anything from their cart, our cart, or the complementary whiffle ball bat?
how fucked up is our world that the pandemic was actually better?
Dude I clean windows for a living. The amount of people that don't see me and walk within inches is infuriating. I get that sometimes there's not much room to walk around and I try to be understanding of that. But the amount of times there's 5+ feet of empty sidewalk and people can't be bothered to move 1 foot to the right while they step around me...
It's a little easier to see it that way as a survivor, especially if you didn't lose anyone close to you.
that's true. i was lucky to get out relatively unscathed. can we go back to the way it was, without the actual virus this time though?
I don't. Not for shopping. I had to wait outside in line, in the freezing cold for an hour, when my state decided to limit the number of customers allowed in at one time. Sucked balls. That didn't last long, fortunately.
Well, that place sure ain't fucking Costco, that's for damned sure.
I've almost never felt this, same with other comments here saying people can't handle self checkout. Here in Sweden, at least in my city, people behave like you'd expect normal functional adults to behave. The only people who can be an annoyance are groups of kids/teenagers, and it's very much not all of them either.
Only if you first give the test and then normalize it to that group, instead of using whatever normalization they've used for the test before
Maybe they just have less lead in the water and better education.
I live in the US. I go to the grocery store a few times a week, I'm a small trips kinda guy, and it's close to my home. Nine out of ten trips are fantastic, but every so often you just come across a person who parks their cart sideways in an aisle, or parks next to one of the stupid fucking displays they put in the already-too-thin aisles. This is excluding, of course, folks who take stuff out of their cart and leave it anywhere, because either they don't realize (or are to embarrassed, for some reason) that you can just leave it with a person up at the register. And at the self-checkouts I do, from time to time, see someone with clearly more than 20 items, though the store folks are good about not letting that happen.
I never go to Walmart, so I'm going to assume things are much worse there.
Yeah, I can remember one or two specific instances of people choosing the worst place to stop and have a conversation, but the reason I remember them is because they happen so infrequently. I might need to say "excuse me" every so often, or squeeze by someone who didn't leave a lot of space, but it's never inconvenient enough to warrant remembering.
I'm a big fan of saying excuse me and apologizing profusely with nice cheap words while smashing right through other inconsiderate people. Whoops sorry!
I mean it's one banana, Michael.
$10?

Can we also make people who still pay for things at a store with a check go to the bad one? It was before the pan, but I couldn't believe what I was seeing when a lady pulled out her checkbook in front of me at the checkout line. Gtf outta here.
The USA continues to baffle me. You people still have paper checks? I haven't seen one in at least 30 years in Europe (before that I was too little to care about such things, so I might never have seen one)
Sadly, we still do. But it's really more a matter of vendor preference these days, since some places (usually small/personal operations) don't do digital payments. That and nobody carries large amounts of cash around, so checks are the only alternative.
That said, anyone that hasn't moved on to prefer a bank card or credit-card is behind the times, or doesn't have a bank account. Still, it's rare to see these days, especially at the grocery store.
You not having seen one doesn't mean they don't exist in Europe.
When you leave a room, are you aware that that room continues to exist?
I haven't heard of checks being used anywhere in Europe. But I'm willing to bet some people do. Germans are weird about cards so I wouldn't be surprised.
US here - I haven't seen one used at a grocery store in over 20 years. Only people I've ever seen use them are old people, or people using them to pay bills.
Only if we build similar airports. I understand not everbody is a regular business traveler, but somehow the people in front of me always seem fascinated with the novel concept of flying and airport security, spending 10 minutes emptying the pockets and putting their stuff on the conveyor belt.
Fly out of smaller airports if you can afford it. That's the differentiator, is cost. Business travelers are (anecdotally) more likely to fly out of the closest and most convenient airport, whereas your regular broke joe (that's usually me) will absolutely make the 1-2h commute to get myself to a hub airport to save a couple hundred bucks.
'cause your plane would take off earlier if only these lame ducks in front of you were less lame. Also you're going to miss valuable waiting time at the gate because of them. I feel your pain, but would you mind reading a little bit faster, I don't have time ALL FUCKING DAY, please.
Rather sit at the gate for an hour than wait and stand in line for an hour to get through security
For me, I just hate standing in a queue for long periods of time. Also, in my town, queues can get up to ober an hour in security, propmpting peeple to potentially miss their flight or planes being delayed.
Then I wouldn't need as much buffer time in the first place. The sitting and waiting is because I didn't know how long the delays would be.
I know the point of this thread is "ugh, people, man" and it's not really meant to be engaged with deeper than that, but this is a really bad idea. It would be used to justify racism and ableism and would be a really unpleasant place to be in, too. Karen city, with no one to speak out about it.
Imagine that spike of anxiety at the check-out where you feel rushed because you're at the front of the line, but instead of it being mostly in your head it's now a real thing with real consequences. That's my nightmare
Agreed. Fuck cars and accept that other people aren't going to be perfect and that that's okay for them to be.
Separate but equal, eh? Gonna introspect on that, or nah?
Someone in this thread went the extra mile and even called them "the shitty" stores. Which is nice. Brings the warm and cozies, that /s
I love how wanting people to be courteous and respectful of others is racist. I just want people to realize that they're not alone in the world, and to please move your cart to the side of the goddamn aisle.
That's entirely true.
But that's still a double-edged sword we're playing with.
If you want to run towards a an "inevitable conclusion" in the one direction (resegregation... undesirable... are you even alluding to genocide?)
I think it's fair to do the same in the opposite direction too. Is there no lower bound for human interaction and behavior? Is it wrong to set boundaries for how people treat you?
I like how hyper aware people are for things that could be turned into an avenue for bad things. I think that's actually more than half the battle. Doesn't always mean you toss the idea outright, you just know that you gotta watch out.
I, for one, am in favor of a minimal demonstrated set of awareness and capacity to operate a motor vehicle. I also am in favor of not letting people drive drunk. Someone might say this will inevitably turn into a tool of racism. And guess what, THEY'D BE RIGHT! But, the solution probably isn't to ban cars, or to let anyone drive with no rules of the road and drive drunk.
Yeah, the solution is to orient society in such a way where the operation of a deadly, several ton method of conveyance isn't a requirement to participate in the world. Public transit, biking, and people-oriented spaces. Fuck cars
Not what I'm fucking saying, but good try. Something being used to justify racism isn't saying "this is on its face racism" its saying "racists will use the stringent, strict rules of this place to deny people of color access to this space". All of these complaints are things that everyone does to some extent, you just get frustrated by them when you're probably already frustrated.
People of color take up more space in white people's heads, so they get more policing of their behavior even if it isn't justified. A group of white boys being loud in a grocery store get head shakes and "boys will be boys" comments. A group of black boys being loud in a grocery store get followed around by security and white women clutching their purses.
Also fun how you sidestepped the ableism I brought up in that same sentence. Cause you know there's no fucking argument there, huh?
I thought both arguments were stupid and so I chose to not continue typing. I guess everything can be used to discriminate against someone, so fuck it, let's do nothing! Yawn yawn yawn.
Wow, false dichotomy much? I get it, you liked the idea and think me attacking it is like me attacking you. Once you grow up, you'll realize that not everything is about you.
Sorry, I meant if you grow up.
Then shut the fuck up and leave the conversation.
Can you read? He's talking about enforcing a separate system, not simply "wanting people to be courteous"
People walking towards each other on the sidewalk usually subconsciously move out of each other's ways. But there's a hierarchy to these interactions that you're probably only aware of if you're at the bottom of it. White people tend to resist deferring to people of color. White women will rarely defer to anyone, expecting everyone to get it of their way. People of color will defer to white people, etc, etc.
If you break this subconscious hierarchy, people notice and assume you're being rude or weird. Like if you move enough out of a white women's way so that she, too, can move a little out of your way so that you both avoid each other (like equals would do), she might just walk into you. Or cuss you out for being rude. Or when I, a white man, defer to a person of color, it trips them up for a second.
Since this hypothetical grocery store is nothing but "don't break unspoken rules about rudeness or you get kicked out" it means that a black person would need to act meek and submissive in order to avoid scrutiny and thus be able to stay. Meaning the rules would be more stringent against people of color, thus less people of color would be accepted, thus justifying their usual exclusion.
Ableism is super easy. Since this hypothetical prioritizes convenience over people, if you're slow at something or need more accommodation, you'd get kicked out.
What a fascinating work of fiction you've just created. You should use it to write a really shit short story
Such a great piece of fiction that the phenomenon I just recounted has been lived by real people before
Am... am I god?/s
Because the person in question might be an immigrant from a country where our supermarkets aren't normal, or have a neurological disease you can't see.
Racism isn't just when a person thinks their race has superior ability. It's also when we design systems that statistically harm brown people. In my country a lot of racism is thinly veiled as dealing with illegal immigrants. We used to require that you know how to read in order to vote.
Why is Lemmy like this
On an Idiocracy meme in shitposts someone was talking about not supporting eugenics.
Bruh, I got autism. This person decided to create a hypothetical grocery store instead of just saying "what's the deal with people in grocery stores? Why are they always in my way?"
You make a hypothetical system as a funny observation, I'm going to shit on the hypothetical before anyone thinks its an actually good idea. Cause people do that shit. Like a whole lot. Check the person who's trying to defend it as a good idea for an example
Demi Adejuyigbe made a parody of racism in his stand-up special "Demi Adejuyigbe is going to do one (1) back-flip" where he said all Latina women were 6'2" and people started parroting that shit back to him with no introspection on what the fuck they were saying.
Cool, I also have autism. So does like 80% of the users on this network. Ok?
Thanks for the whacky anecdote. That and the original post are bad jokes.
“People can’t drive!”
“What’s the deal with TALL LATIN WOMEN”
They deserve zero attention and this post sucks. I am sorry you had to spend emotional energy on this instead of anything else. You are allowed to downvote and move on too. There’s too much of this garbage engagement bait to take issue with each individual “comedian” on micro blogs or comedy “specials”, or whatever. Anyway, eugenics bad.
Cool, I also have autism. So does like 80% of the users on this network. Ok?
Thanks for the whacky anecdote. That and the original post are bad jokes.
“People can’t drive!”
“What’s the deal with TALL LATIN WOMEN”
They deserve zero attention and this post sucks. I am sorry you had to spend emotional energy on this instead of anything else. You are allowed to downvote and move on too. There’s too much of this garbage engagement bait to take issue with each individual “comedian” on micro blogs or comedy “specials”, or whatever. Including my dumb take comment, btw.
Anyway, eugenics bad.
Imagine that spike of anxiety at the check-out where you feel rushed because you’re at the front of the line, but instead of it being mostly in your head it’s now a real thing with real consequences.
For a bit of fun, go visit a LIDL anywhere in Germany
It would be used to justify racism
The racial trait of being a moron in a grocery store hah
Lol, you think Karens would be kept out of Karen heaven. Lmao, even.
Couldn't think of a way to go out of business faster than having a competent-customers-only policy.
Do you want elitist grocery stores in LA? Because that's how you get elitist grocery stores in LA.
I appreciate these, they keep the freaks out of Ralph's.
Entry Level Grocery Store sounds like a future slur.
Also you must be able to read.
Put lines on the floor like m'roads
I mean roadway markings. Put turn signals on the carts. It'll just highlight the inept.
Where beans? Where corn?
m’roads
*tips fedora*
Could we ban conversation between cart-holders? Two people shopping together, same cart same list, is fine. But anything beyond "Hi, nice to see you" between two carts clogs the aisles
It's less random people and more likely people who live in the same building or whose kids are on the same team/at the same school etc. I don't want to be expected to converse, and I don't like when others do it. A friendly smile and hello and keep walking is my go-to, as if I'm in a tearing hurry.
A few weeks ago I was at the store picking up a few things for my sick kid. The very first aisle I go to as I'm trying to leave it a lady pulls into the aisle to look at whatever was on the end cap and puts her cart right in the middle of the aisle so I can't get through with my cart. She saw me, we made eye contact for a second and I moved to the right of the aisle. I get to the end and she's just standing there, not even looking at stuff just looking at me waiting for her to move. After about 20 seconds I can't believe I have to say anything so I just go "excuse me" and she scoffs and says "you're fine". Another 10 seconds and I have to say it again, "excuse me I'm trying to get through" and I don't know what was going through her head but she started freaking out, "go ahead and get through then I don't know why you're standing there". So I do just that, I used my cart to push hers out of the way (very intentionally just enough to get through) and she lost it. I just proceeded on my way but even after I turned down the next asile I needed something from she was still yelling. This was like 10:30 at night, the store was almost empty so there was plently of room.
This was in an expensive grocery store in a pretty wealthy area. In contrast on my way home I stopped at the poppy shop around the corner because they have a drink I like for a good deal and there was someone who looked like they were emptying their pockets by the trash can but checking out a couple receipts before throwing them away who was blocking the door, I said excuse me when I was a few steps away and he apologized, told me to have a great night and held the door open for me.
So, you attempted regular social cues to communicate what you wanted, and when that failed you escalated to physical aggression and then got upset that the other person got upset?
Like, not trying to throw you under the bus or anything, you both miscommunicated in that situation but you were the one to escalate. If the other person didn't know what they were doing wrong, couldn't you have just told them "I'm so sorry, but I can't get my cart around yours" when they didn't get why you couldn't get past?
It really sounds like you were both tired and didn't have the grace in that moment for each other, rather than some failing on either of your parts.
Yes, it is. It's why they moderated that they did it as "very intentionally, just trying to get through". Moving someone or their stuff without permission is an act of physical aggression. I'm not saying they punched them or anything, but there were aggressive in a physical manner.
I guess we found the grocery maniac.
If they were tired and unable to communicate (happens to us all mate) they would have been okay with their cart being moved. Getting angry at the cart being moved, after saying it was okay to go, is the tell that this person was not capable of polite reason.
We should also seggregate society by tiers, every 15 IQ points up and down.
That's skill baded match making!
It was intentionaly malicious advice.
I feel if they did that, they would feel like shit, and not ask for seggregation.
I have started getting my groceries delivered. It is more expensive but worth the tradeoff to me. I'd rather cut down on my expensive habits, than spend half an hour dodging the public at rush hour, just to get it a bit cheaper.
Oh I wish those were still around here. As a kid, we had an actual mom and pop owned cornershop. I went there as a kid one time to buy my dad cigarettes, and back then people knew each other and they'd call my home line asking if I was allowed.
Shop closed because the gas station opened their own competing store, and a big brand supermarket moved in. These days I'd kill to be able to walk into a small store nearby and be able to grab locally grown produce and walk out of there.
Yeah I'm gonna venture a guess and say the poster in the image is not a particularly nice person.
Skiddly woop wopp
Holy shit, it’s just a joke, folks. Calm the fuck down.
People seem to get tunnel vision in the grocery store and ignore the dozens of people trying to move around them. I weave in and out of those groups of people quickly and try to mumble "asshole" just loud enough they can hear me as i walk by.
bro about to shid his pants from anger because a shopper didnt let him move through smoothly
I do my grocery shopping at about 7AM on Sunday. I cruise through the aisles, slowing down to grab what I want. A full week's shopping done in under 30 minutes, including checkout. I'm sure it also helps that I choose not to live in a big city.
I suppose if I had an online following of any kind, I might shop at a time that gave me something to complain about.
Also separate airports and train stations without people blinded by holiday brain.
If we're talking about people blocking lanes with their cart. I agree fuck that shit. I want to grab my 6 pack or whatever and leave.
That said, I'm barely cognizant of my surroundings other than the one thing I'm there to buy usually so I'm almost certainly not a champion of spacial awareness. But I'm quick.
Why do you think disturbing people while shopping is a left wing thing?
I don't think that. I think that a good society comes from interacting with people and helping them develop. There is no need for separate spaces if people teach each other how to use credit cards or how to pack bags efficiently.
It’s called a joke.

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