Skill issue. I have LocalSend on all my devices.
mycodesucks 10 points 3 months ago
Skill my foot. If any of my technology is compatible with Apple tech, I'll intentionally break it until it isn't.
sheogorath 11 points 3 months ago
At this point I’m just amazed.
taiyang 42 points 3 months ago
What's rather ironic is my Linux FOSS setup is more compatible than ever because it can open my students .notes and .pages files, while MS Word couldn't.
And naturally, I'm proud of using FOSS so I guess I'm proud to be compatible with everything.
taiyang 6 points 3 months ago
I've been using OnlyOffice, although I bet LibreOffice can open them too. That doesn't convert files unless I save, but it doesn't seem to me up the formatting either. I used to have to bulk convert using a Google drive plugin, which could help for bulk conversation but isn't a FOSS solution.
auzy1 22 points 3 months ago
My Mac studio m2 was the only computer I ever had that had compatibility issues with some USB cables
People talk about Apple hardware like it's incredible, but honestly, no pc manufacturer would make that mistake
blitzen 5 points 3 months ago
compatibility issues with some USB cables
I'd like to hear more about this. I have a theory that as great as USB-C is for consistency, the fact that it shares a connector with Thunderbolt (to say nothing about the different versions of Thunderbolt) introduces a level of uncertainly when looking at a USB-C connector.
- it can be a "charge-only" cable (USB 2.0)
- it can charge slowly, or quickly
- it can be a USB-C cable
- it can be Thunderbolt 3 / USB 4.0
- it can be active, or passive
- it can be Thunderbolt 4
- it can be Thunderbolt 5
I'm certainly not trying to discount your experience. I'm sure you ran into significant problems. But in general I continue to believe that the general public may not have the right "flavor" of USB-C cable to do what they are trying to do in a given situation.
auzy1 4 points 3 months ago
It's nothing to do with the standard I believe
The same cables and adapters all worked when I used them on my nuc for the same devices, and they wouldn't even work with my mouse on the Mac studio.
My suspicion is that the shell of the case is a bit thick (as the port is recessed behind it), so some cables just failed to touch fully. As, some cables felt more snug and clicked into the port better
For the cost of the computer, it damned sure shouldn't have that issue
Even worse, for the price of the computer, the power button should be on front, not buried on the back. That's overcomplicating things for the sake of doing so
muusemuuse 4 points 3 months ago
Apple does honestly make good hardware. Their transition to ARM had a near zero chance of being successful but Apple managed to pull it off anyway. It’s truly impressive.
But when they fuck up, boy do they go big. The butterfly keyboards were absolutely insane. And don’t get me started on the last years software releases. I can’t practically multitask on my iPad anymore, screen space is wasted on the MacBook in Tahoe and the finder is worse than it’s ever been. Competition is supposed to save us but Microsoft is so smitten with AI they still can’t even get their start menu to work reliably. Meanwhile linux is gaining faster than anyone thought possible. Valve is doing to gaming on Linux what Ubuntu did to teaching neurotypicals how to use Linux.
Western tech gave up.
auzy1 1 point 3 months ago
Windows was mostly the same with ARM too for most people honestly.
In our industry, lots of people got ARM surface laptops (and didn't even know it was an ARM CPU, except that the software we used had an old version of OpenVPN, which caused a specific issue unless they manually installed as it was a kernel module). The reason the ARM changeover might have seemed seamless, is that developers were likely given priority access to hardware (as what happened with PPC -> Intel).. On Windows there was special hardware for it, and I suspect there was a Arm development kit on MacOS too probably.
People also seem to compare Apple hardware against PC hardware which costs 1/2 the price too. I owned a Power MAC, Mac Pro and Mac Studio. The Mac Pro ram alone cost more than a FASTER PC as the first gen used Fully Buffered ECC RAM.
Developers can optimise for Apple based on whats available though . The other big advantage Apple has is that they mostly control the service process, and, you can't bite the hand that feeds if you are one, which controls bad press too.
And when they use another architecture, nobody seems to cross compare gaming performance as much, etc, as the biggest MAC sites also tend to be apple "exclusive" sites, and I'm willing to bet the people that operate them are shareholders.. Apple have always been behind in graphics performance (and, still are. The M1's and M2's didn't even have hardware raytracing as an example, whilst even the Intel Iris chips did).
However, by the way people talk about Apple, you'd think the M series CPU's were absolutely smashing PC performance and they were even expecting the M5 chips to compete with the GTX 4080's a few months ago.
const_void 0 points 3 months ago
Why?
Footer1998 -17 points 3 months ago
apple is still better than google tbh
i use grapheneOS but its just the truth
Footer1998 9 points 3 months ago
yes, very true, and well put
Footer1998 5 points 3 months ago
that isn't true, i used to use iphone and it had uYou+extras which is basically a modified youtube app with sponsorblock and adblock, and there are other things which are similar, and adguard is also pretty solid
Footer1998 2 points 3 months ago
what kind of phone do you have
protogen420 0 points 3 months ago
pure copium
Footer1998 6 points 3 months ago
why would it be copium when i dont even use apple bruh
I_Has_A_Hat -2 points 3 months ago
Google automatically screens and blocks spam calls. That alone is enough for me to put it above Apple.
Footer1998 14 points 3 months ago
"yes all of my personal data is being used by an evil wizard plotting world domination but he has some convenient spells that the bog witch simply does not offer"
const_void 4 points 3 months ago
iOS does this too
Endymion_Mallorn 132 points 3 months ago
If I'm in a situation where it's Apple or failure, I will gladly fail.
the_crotch 8 points 3 months ago
They have a lot of nerve using a USB standard that's only 12 years old
Endymion_Mallorn 1 point 3 months ago
USB-A is the common standard. Most devices are made with USB-A compatibility. Most portable media are USB-A.
I'm not even going after the vast majority of my hard stops when I pick technology, like the fact that there's no proper (S)VGA and no full-size DisplayPort (and I mean proper DisplayPort, not an "HDMI" plug into a DisplayPort interface), or the lack of a hardware switch to fully disable power to all onboard radio and modem devices.
the_crotch 1 point 3 months ago
So mad that my modern laptop doesn't have a DIMM port, how am I supposed to use my 1992 era keyboard?
Endymion_Mallorn 9 points 3 months ago
You mean DIN, not DIMM. DIMM is RAM. DIN is PS/2 and others. As far as how I use my old boards and trackballs, PS/2 to USB-A 1.0.
The_Decryptor 1 point 3 months ago
USB-A is the common standard. Most devices are made with USB-A compatibility. Most portable media are USB-A.
Well, per spec the client devices are supposed to have B ports (e.g. printers, scanners, external hard drives, etc. are all B), thumb stick are outliers in that they use A.
Well they used to at least, all the ones I've seen recently are A/C. A is legacy at this point.
freeman 2 points 3 months ago
They had female B ports and you usually connected them to the PC with a male B to male A cable.
Thumbstics forego the cable for easo of carrying so they provide what the cable would, USB A male for the host.
MutantTailThing 112 points 3 months ago
Hey remember that tried and true universal plug-in that literally works on everything and everybody loves? Lets not have that anymore.
red_bull_of_juarez 115 points 3 months ago
I know Apple is terrible with usability, but I also think USB-C is now the one that works everywhere. All my last USB stick purchases had USB-A and C, just so that I don't have to run away in tears. I can even use them with smartphones and those never had USB-A.
fartsparkles 21 points 3 months ago
USB-C is over 11 years old.
Cethin 22 points 3 months ago
And? Is there something newer that's a standard? If not, it's the new one.
Also, it's only recently become the de facto standard. Yes, it's older than that, but it didn't become the standard until maybe five years ago. So much was still being made for USB-A, and some things still are. Anything older than ~5 years ago has good odds of being A.
RamenJunkie 7 points 3 months ago
People do not replace accessories and specialized external hardware nearly as often as companies think they do.
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farmgineer 17 points 3 months ago
my home computer has no USB-C and I can't afford to upgrade because gestures broadly.
farmgineer 2 points 3 months ago
I have a USB-C hub with USB-A ports that plugs into my work PC. I had a hard time trying to find the opposite, though I haven't looked in ages; it honestly has come up exactly once in the last few years when I needed to borrow my wife's sd card reader (or dig my old laptop out of the closet and play the updates game).
Honytawk 13 points 3 months ago
Both USB-C and USB-A have their pros and cons.
USB-C has a lot more bandwidth and power draw.
USB-A is sturdier and cheaper.
For things like a mouse or keyboard, having more bandwidth or power draw are useless, but being cheaper and sturdier are not.
One can not replace the other entirely. Apple just wants to milk everyone by forcing them to buy all their peripherals again.
mnemonicmonkeys 2 points 3 months ago
I think the only holdouts are Raspberry Pi. For some reason they still don't have a USB-C option for the nano
Turret3857 45 points 3 months ago
"all my recent flash drives have had both ports so I can use them with usb a or usb c!"
"WHAT SO I SHOULD JUST TOSS ALL MY OLD HARDWARE?"
no one said that. youre just saying shit. you can still use your usb-a flash drives.
wonderingwanderer 18 points 3 months ago
"SO YOU HATE WAFFLES?"
"That's a whole new sentence. Wtf is you talkin about?"
Honytawk 2 points 3 months ago
So now we need to buy dongles for something that should be standard on a computer?
Next thing we'll need a dongle for the power button, because Apple decided that shouting "POWER ON APPLE" is the better way to turn on a laptop.
Scipitie 13 points 3 months ago
No - but you can get a A to C adapter if you expect that you'll bring it to someone who might only have USB C.
And from my perspective: if I expect other to being me data id expect from myself to bring such an adapter. That way I'd both parties try to remember chances are one of them have. :)
ahornsirup 6 points 3 months ago
No? Just get an adapter?
luluberlue 2 points 3 months ago
I'll just laugh at you with my 256GB "slow" USB 3 flash drive if you ever need any boot utility like memtest or gparted then.
Who use those? Well simply people who actualy maintain computers.
ArcaneSlime 2 points 3 months ago
Me. Linux distros (either install media or straight live boot disks like Tails), moving files larger than like fucking 2gb without relying on spyware or self hosting a cloud service, redundant backups of your most important files, rescue disks, and MORE! Only $16.99 for a limited time while supplies last see comment for details.
Tabula_stercore 58 points 3 months ago
Remember folks, apple onyl has usb c because they were forced to
mnemonicmonkeys 3 points 3 months ago
Malicious compliance
Footer1998 34 points 3 months ago
fuck apple but you're kinda mistaken here, if you're talking about just iphone, maybe you're right - but they had usb c (actually thunderbolt) on macbook and ipad before any legal rulings, macbooks before there was even any hint of legislation iirc.
Footer1998 18 points 3 months ago
used to be, not anymore though, thunderbolt uses the same ports as USB C and is compatible with USB C, you can think of thunderbolt as enhanced USB C
tetris11 0 points 3 months ago
is it thunderbolt emulated through software on the USB pin stack? or is it really thunderbolt pins offering a USB connector, emulating USB protocols on the thunderbolt stack?
GamingChairModel 3 points 3 months ago
Macbooks have had Thunderbolt 3 (the protocol) over USB-C (the physical form factor) since about 2015. The Thunderbolt 3 protocol became incorporated into the USB 4 standard in 2019 (and is implemented on the physical USB-C port).
Earlier versions of Thunderbolt were proprietary standards jointly controlled by Apple and Intel, but implemented over Mini-DisplayPort connectors. They were phased out in new devices starting in around 2015.
StuffYouFear 2 points 3 months ago
They may be talking about micro usb 3.0 that was basically usb-c before the physical plug was developed. It was a micro usb with a really stupid additional plug bonded to it to make it high power and I think gave extra data lanes. Lighting plug was probably apples counter to that ungodly sin upto the tech universe. https://en.wikipedia.org/...
Footer1998 2 points 3 months ago
yeah i have an external ssd that uses that weird clamshell connector, you can actually just plug in a regular micro B and it works with usb 2.0 speeds
lightning was basically a better version of the micro-b connector, it debuted with the iPhone 5 in 2012, it had a few advantages over micro-B including a reversible connector. back when it came out apple users complained because all the accessories used the old 30-pin connector so they weren't compatible, so apple pledged to not change the iPhone connector again for a long time, iirc 10 years? i think that's why iPhones were still using lightning until 2023 despite having usb C on the macbook since 2016
rabidhamster 3 points 3 months ago
Yeah, the hate on lightning kinda reminds me of the hate on FireWire. It's like, the only alternative at the time was USB 1.0, which was 8mbs. Even in the late early 00s, that could have meant hours to sync your phone iPod.
protogen420 4 points 3 months ago
wrong, apple ones arent the real ones
ZILtoid1991 1 point 3 months ago
Apple doesn't have users, it has cultists.
irelephant -2 points 3 months ago
A macbook is a real computer.
irelephant 1 point 2 months ago
What does macos restrict?
SaharaMaleikuhm 33 points 3 months ago
Americucks and their Apple.
Ostrichgrif 24 points 3 months ago
Can't be an American story because Huawei is banned in the USA 🥹
Starduster75 4 points 3 months ago
Tell me about it, I worked there once. What a cult! They are essentially the Nike of computers.
atomicbocks 29 points 3 months ago
I guess we forgot how to email…
Axolotl_cpp 1 point 3 months ago
What service do you use?
Footer1998 31 points 3 months ago
i'm not seeing a problem here
Matriks404 17 points 3 months ago
I just have USB-C to USB-A adapter, for this kind of problems, and the reverse adapter as well.
driving_crooner 12 points 3 months ago
I have an email account for this kind of problems
Angryhumanoid 16 points 3 months ago
They make A to C adapters.
thebestaquaman 3 points 3 months ago
Because after, what, ...40? years of internet, the most convenient way to move a large file between two computers on the same network is, usually, to put it on a physical drive and move it. That, or upload it to cloud storage, then have the other person download it.
It's unfathomable to me that we still don't have a universally accepted and implemented protocol/utility for "send this file over wifi to this other machine on the same network". I'm aware that there are plenty of ways to do this, but the fact that it's typically easier to upload a 10 GB file to cloud storage for the person next to you to download it (or move it via a flash drive) is easier than just sending it directly. It boggles my mind that sending files over the local network isn't some extremely simple cross-platform feature that any machine can access through a utility as accessible as connecting to the wifi-network.
Just to reiterate: I'm very aware that this is easily possible for anyone with a little tech-backround. My point is that it isn't the go-to method for most people, and I just can't understand why...
Zorsith 3 points 3 months ago
There are security concerns with bending a device over and spreading it wide open to wireless signal.
The wired ethernet methods do exist but are locked down to trigger vendor lock in and make bank for hp/lexmark/etc in support contracts
thebestaquaman 1 point 3 months ago
There are security concerns with bending a device over and spreading it wide open to wireless signal.
I think my confusion / bafflement is built a bit on the fact that we're able to do this with the internet. I'm constantly receiving massive amounts of data over wireless signal from all around the globe, and it's generally regarded as safe to do so. How hard could it be to set up pretty much the exact same thing with a standardised interface / protocol over local wifi?
mnemonicmonkeys 2 points 3 months ago
I think the main reason is priorities.
USB is standardised. File structures are also standardized (if you ignore different storage formats like ntfs, FAT32, etc). Everything that USB drives have to deal with is solved and standardized.
Meanwhile, network specs are continually changing due to security concerns. If you have 2 devices connected, you need to have a secure way for those 2 devices to verify that they're the correct devices. That's not as big of a concern for USB drives, because if a bad actor has physical access to a computer you generally have bigger problems to deal with.
Plus, hardware vendors like murkying the waters by pushing for their internal implementations when possible, preventing standardization across the entire industry
thebestaquaman 1 point 3 months ago
I absolutely see the security side of it, but I would assume that could be solved quite easily by having some kind of "on/off" switch combined with only allowing manually verified connections.
I mean, we basically have this for bluetooth, where I can connect to pretty much any bluetooth device, and just confirm or deny the connection request. It surprises me that some similar protocol hasn't been invented for wifi, where I could see other machines on the network (like you can see nearby bluetooth devices), and send a connection request that the owner of that device can accept or deny. Any machine connected to the internet is already "wide open" in the sense that it's constantly receiving loads of wireless data from all across the globe. We've been able to standardise that in a "safe enough" way, I don't see how doing the same thing over a local network could be any more difficult.
NickwithaC 5 points 3 months ago
And every Mac user I know carries one without a hint of irony.
Jankatarch 4 points 3 months ago
I just dislike how easy to bend and break it looks.
Mycatiskai 14 points 3 months ago
This is why you get a adapter stick that has C to micro, C to A, C to Thunder, and a card reader.
chiliedogg 13 points 3 months ago
I do have a 2-ended USB drive with A and C and it's glorious.
rockerface 4 points 3 months ago
Perfect for Pride month
hirihit640 3 points 3 months ago
C to Thunder? aren't they the same connector? unless you're talking about lightning
Regrettable_incident 2 points 3 months ago
Thunder and lightening, very very frightening.
Mycatiskai 1 point 2 months ago
Sure, the closest I get to Apple products is that my partner uses them for work. I haven't had one since iPhone 4.
lka1988 2 points 3 months ago
Emotionally insecure.
But yes. My wife was an Apple girl for a long time. She just bought herself a used Pixel 9Pro XL (identical to mine) to use with Graphene OS, and gave me the green light to wipe her Macbook for Linux.
rumba 10 points 3 months ago
I'm honestly kinda shocked we've not managed to bridge the airdrop gap.
Quickshare is hit or miss
Wetransfer wasn't bad but didn't like corporate networks.
Dropbox and Bitwarden send are OK, but you have to email/sms links.
We should have blue tooth beacons and 900mhz Halow by now.
CrabAndBroom 25 points 3 months ago
I use LocalSend. It apparently works on Macs too but I've never tried that. Windows/Linux seems to work fine though!
muusemuuse 2 points 3 months ago
That makes sense. AirDrop rapidly switches the wifi radio between the network the device is connected to and the adhoc network of the sending device. It’s effectively running at half speed with a clever trick.
Airdrops only problem is the proprietary nature of it but it’s a good solution that works very well. In the PC market, they still can’t get Bluetooth right. They never got Miracast right either. Microsoft half-asses everything they try which turns apples cool idea into the only way to do something.
nicerdicer 12 points 3 months ago
There is a way to share files across and between all platforms (Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android, Linux):
As long as you are in the same network as the recipient you can share everything across this app. There are no limitations in file type or size. I use this app constantly to send files from phone to laptop or PC, and I can highly recommend it. It's free.
The recipient doesn't even need the app, as you can provide a qr code that can be scanned by the recipient from your phone to start the download of the shared file(s).
Yerbouti 4 points 3 months ago
I just send a link to a public folder in my Nextcloud. You can also add huge files to your email with the Nextcloud plugin in Thunderbird. Still have to send a link but best option for me so far.
rumba 1 point 3 months ago
Not a bad idea. Nextcloud interface was just so damn slow last time I tried it. 7th gen intel running containers, everything else is fine, nextcound was taking 10 seconds to finish loading a page :(
Resonosity 10 points 3 months ago
This is why I have a Framework laptop with modular ports.
I can change which ports my laptop has, and on which side it has them, at will. No struggle
captainlezbian 6 points 3 months ago
Getting a flash drive with both a and c on it was a great investment
irelephant 5 points 3 months ago
It's a shame email doesn't exist
lessthanluigi 2 points 2 months ago
Anon is Obsolete Absolute
Jankatarch 1 point a month ago
Wouldn't email also work?
diabetic_porcupine 0 points 3 months ago
napkin2020 -2 points 3 months ago
Huawei isn't really competitive with their laptops though. To be fair, it's pretty much impossible to win Apple with laptop.
Phoenix3875 11 points 3 months ago
It's complicated.
Now there's the "pure" HarmonyOS (previously known as HarmonyOS NEXT) that most recent Huawei phones now have preinstalled (at least as an option for foreign markets). It doesn't have AOSP or Linux kernel and thus no compatibility. It just runs native apps (HAP).
Then, historically there's also a commercial version based on AOSP but removed Google services. You could buy it in a store back then, and it's compatible with Android apps that don't require Google services (up to a certain version?) Most Chinese apps don't rely on Google services in the first place.
There's also the open source version OpenHarmony. It was never commercially available. It uses the Linux kernel without AOSP. I believe part of it was used for the pure HarmonyOS development. It's said that the micro-kernel architecture was preserved for the pure HarmonyOS, which is quite interesting.
Tabula_stercore 5 points 3 months ago
It's a fucking retarded way of using Bluetooth filesharing
Footer1998 12 points 3 months ago
disabled people catching strays as per usual
spicehoarder 18 points 3 months ago
There really is no better proof for stolen artwork than a hallucinated signature
Aneorthisio -7 points 3 months ago
Obviously, if the goal had been to present it as anything other than AI, the watermark wouldn’t be there.
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