Yo πŸ‘Š

4 months ago by UnderpantsWeevil to c/dankmemes

llamapocalypse 132 points 4 months ago

Unless the candidate is a progressive, then the establishment Dems won't endorse them (unless the progressive wins, then suddenly they totally supported the progressive all along)

(no, I'm not saying don't vote, just frustrated by the fucking hypocrisy)

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sik0fewl 125 points 4 months ago

Don’t just vote Democrat, vote in the primaries.

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tidderuuf 48 points 4 months ago

Ya that's a problem I have in my neck of the words. Everyone complains about who is on the General Election ticket and they just shrug their shoulders about voting in the Primary.

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Blibly 24 points 4 months ago

"You mean I have to vote, and then vote again? Ugh, I wasnt even planning to show up to the actual vote. Meh...it'll all work out fine."

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TachyonTele 18 points 4 months ago

If voting day was a holiday it would less of a problem

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MyBrainHurts 0 points 4 months ago

Or it won't and I'll complain online which is even better than voting, right?

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MyBrainHurts 17 points 4 months ago

Exactly. This times a million. We don't vote in primaries and then get all surprised that the Democratic candidates resemble the folks who voted in the primaries.

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DokPsy 14 points 4 months ago

Imo if you don't vote in the primaries, you've forfeited your right to bitch about the candidates on the general ticket

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edible_funk 17 points 4 months ago

Yup, drag the fuckin party left.

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msage 13 points 4 months ago path: 0 24211703 24212004 24217394, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 0
Ensign_Crab 8 points 4 months ago

vote in the primaries.

When the party runs primaries at all, they interfere with them every chance they get. Saying "jUsT vOtE iN tHe PrImArIeS" without acknowledging this paints the results of the party's corruption as the will of the people.

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Endymion_Mallorn 8 points 4 months ago

That would be a nice idea, but what do you do when incumbents run unopposed in the primary

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logi 4 points 4 months ago

Run against them.

(In theory. I wouldn't do that either.)

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llamapocalypse 4 points 4 months ago

I figured that bit was obvious, I was speaking more towards the Dem leadership's hypocrisy. Again, absolutely not saying "don't vote both sides reeeeee"

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sik0fewl 2 points 4 months ago

I was complementing, not contradicting πŸ™‚. I agree.

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Ep1cFac3pa1m 23 points 4 months ago

Yeah didn’t the Democratic Party take credit for some shit Mamdani got done? Seemed pretty shitty since they tried to stop him from getting elected.

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Ensign_Crab 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah didn’t the Democratic Party take credit for some shit Mamdani got done?

They sure tried.

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SailorFuzz 20 points 4 months ago

*cough*

Mamdani

*cough*

Platner

*coughcough*

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llamapocalypse 2 points 4 months ago

those were two of the big ones I had in mind, yeah

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago
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BurgerBaron 1 point 4 months ago
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sunrisepirate 4 points 4 months ago

Make sure you're pressuring the establishment Democrats in your jurisdiction and the people making campaign contributions.

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Folstar 77 points 4 months ago

Gang, this isn't complicated. You fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year. On election day you pick the lesser evil, which hopefully all that fighting you did made much less evil. We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that's the best path forward.

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thisisbutaname 47 points 4 months ago

In other words, voting isn't enough: it's merely the first step. After "your guys" are in power, you should bully them into keeping their promises and doing more

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mattyroses 11 points 4 months ago

Remember when the vote blue no matter who people told us they were gonna move Biden left after he was elected?

Good times.

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architect 6 points 4 months ago

Now they say he’s the most progressive President we ever had. So progressive he lost us abortion.

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

So progressive he broke a strike. So progressive he bragged about record oil production. So progressive he supported a genocide.

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darthelmet 5 points 4 months ago

How do you bully people by guaranteeing your support for them unconditionally?

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thisisbutaname -3 points 4 months ago

You only do that at the booth, and then you are vocal about the issues that matter to you. From social media to marching in the streets and everything in between

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darthelmet 3 points 4 months ago

Ok then what? You yell from the rooftops β€œI strongly disapprove of what you are doing! I will still vote for you, but I’m not happy about it!”

Politician: β€œOk good, you’re still voting for me. Well, back to the fundraising event.”

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Ensign_Crab 2 points 4 months ago

You only do that at the booth, and then you are vocal about the issues that matter to you.

yeah, I do that and I see the results. Constant abuse and accusations of being a trumper from the genocide wing. No change. Like you want.

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asdfasdfasdf 3 points 4 months ago

you should bully them into keeping their promises and doing more

How?

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LostCarcosan 4 points 4 months ago

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silver13 22 points 4 months ago

As an non-american, how this is not crystal clear even for the most hardcore communists is an absolute mystery to me.

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Folstar 7 points 4 months ago

Civics education is bad to nonexistent so they do not learn about the spoiler effect, let alone the inevitable math behind first past the post elections. People vote based on how they think the system ought to function instead of how it actually functions.

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Ensign_Crab -1 points 4 months ago

"If you don't accept genocide like I want, you don't understand how anything works!"

You like the system how it is because you get the results you want.

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mattyroses 6 points 4 months ago

Because the US first past the post system ensures there's only two parties. So unless you can threaten one, you don't have input.

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PhoenixDog 2 points 4 months ago

They don't even have FPTP. They have an electoral college. Basically more states have a larger voting power than others.

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mattyroses 3 points 4 months ago

The US has both. FPTP elections, and the presidency controlled by unequal votes depending on state.

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architect 5 points 4 months ago

Because it’s logically stupid and ushered in fascism.

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Ensign_Crab 5 points 4 months ago

As a non-american, you aren't close enough to notice that the people who say this are taking advantage of the situation and have been for decades.

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plutopos 4 points 4 months ago

As a non-american, here in my country leftists vote for many different parties, each too small to actually pass the threshold

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mattyroses 12 points 4 months ago

Gang, this isn't complicated. You make demands, but declare ahead of time you will not take any action to harm the Dems by not voting for them, and this give up all leverage. Then they continue to lock in GOP policies, that's tye best path forward.

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Folstar -1 points 4 months ago

You fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year

So many sick burns from people who do not read well.

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mattyroses 2 points 4 months ago

Buddy, I read your dumb argument. You're surrendering on the only day that matters and wonder why you never win.

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Ensign_Crab 2 points 4 months ago

Centrists love to pretend that people who don't buy their shitty arguments are just too stupid to understand them.

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mfed1122 2 points 4 months ago

He explicitly said that by declaring ahead of time that you will vote for whatever candidate they have no reason to change their establishment or respond to your "fighting" it. The only point of leverage that you have over them is not voting for them, which deprives them of the power and wealth that they're trying to seek by being elected. So, if you surrender that single point of leverage, then what does your fighting consist of?

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LostCarcosan 1 point 4 months ago

I'd expect more than Reddit level comprehension from people on Lemmy

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Folstar -1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, but here we are with you replying to a snippet of my original point for some reason. That and othering instead of articulating a clear point. It's rough all over.

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commie 10 points 4 months ago

fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year

just to be accused of supporting teh republicans? i mean i'll do it, but lets be honest: the democrat supporters aren't trying to have a good faith discussion about the shortcomings of the party.

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Folstar -3 points 4 months ago

You gotta fight from within. "I've voted Democrat and will continue to support the party, but [insert list of grievances]" plays a lot better than "I do not understand how US election work so I helped get Trump elected, now give me what I want".

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commie 6 points 4 months ago

I voted Democrat but they don't get a blank check from me. I'll support them when they are worth it.

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architect 3 points 4 months ago

Have you actually tried to do that? Like seriously tried? It was nepo babies all the way down when I attempted to β€œfight from within”.

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Folstar 1 point 4 months ago

It seems like the idea is gaining traction. Mamdani's election is a watershed moment.

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Ensign_Crab 3 points 4 months ago

Centrists interpret all criticism as β€œI do not understand how US election work so I helped get Trump elected, now give me what I want” and have never given a shit about how anyone actually voted.

Condescension will never be a substitute for policies people want, charismatic candidates, and a willingness to keep campaign promises. But since centrists don't have any of those, they go with what they have.

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Folstar 1 point 4 months ago

I hate to break it to you, but I'm left of Sanders. Understanding how our election system (poorly) functions is essential if we are ever going to fix it. Knowing is half the battle!

We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that’s the best path forward.

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mattyroses 1 point 4 months ago

Hey, I really don't like how you're murdering people, but I won't stop shopping at your store. I'm going to change it from the inside

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LostCarcosan 0 points 4 months ago

"Hey I don't like that guy raping babies and blowing up school girls, but I'll just stand here and do nothing that could have stopped him, either"

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Folstar 0 points 4 months ago

When has the USA ever not been murdering people? You think not voting against the guy who murders more people is sending a message? Now we're into full on magic-based thinking.

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wpb 10 points 4 months ago

Fellas please, an election is not the time and place to make your voice heard.

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Folstar -2 points 4 months ago

You must have missed this part where you are making your voice heard by picking the least bad option, so here it is again:

On election day you pick the lesser evil, which hopefully all that fighting you did made much less evil.

Or maybe you're confused about how things ought to be versus how they actually are, that too was covered:

We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that’s the best path forward.

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wpb 8 points 4 months ago

On election day you pick the lesser evil

I cannot stomach voting for someone who sent billions to commit genocide with. That is my voice, and my opinion. What should I do with that on election day, you think?

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LostCarcosan -1 points 4 months ago

Good job, the alternative that you and people like you chose by sitting around and doing nothing to prove your superiority is much better! Schoolgirls got bombed! The global markets were disrupted! Elon is a trillionaire! Environmental protections were removed and human lives were valued at 0 by the EPA! Trans people are openly punished and laws are being written to prevent them using public restrooms! Screwworms and measels are returning to the US! The entire planet hates the US (rightfully so and even more than they did before) and historic allies are turning against us! The US openly aligned with Israel and started a war for no reason!

I'm sure glad you couldn't bear the weight of voting, you're an inspirational beacon and the world thanks you for what you didn't do

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Folstar -4 points 4 months ago

Worry less about election day and more about those 364 days.

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logi -6 points 4 months ago

Grow up and do the best thing that the situation allows. To see what the alternative is... [gestures vaguely at the world]

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Ensign_Crab 6 points 4 months ago

You must have missed this part where you are making your voice heard by picking the least bad option

You like the part where the margin between "least bad" and "most bad" keeps narrowing.

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Ensign_Crab 8 points 4 months ago

Get called a trumper 364 days a year by people who love how much like trump the democratic establishment is constantly trying to become.

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Folstar 5 points 4 months ago

Fun story, my second-to-last straw with Reddit was being banned from r/democrats for saying Biden should not seek a second term (too old) and they need to hold a primary. I said this repeatedly starting about a year before the election and was called all manner of terrible things while accumulating loads of up and downvotes. When the time for a primary passed I pivoted my message to: Biden should retire (play up a medical issue) so we have the first female president and she has the incumbent bump for the election. I was banned with the message "Shut up, Biden is going to get a second term. Deal with it [inappropriate language]." twelve days before Biden dropped out.

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Ensign_Crab 3 points 4 months ago

Are they still refusing to admit Mamdani exists?

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mattyroses 6 points 4 months ago

No, now they claim somehow that's proof their VBNMW nonsense works.

Despite Mandami showing it only goes one way

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architect 3 points 4 months ago

The Dems get worse every cycle.

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Amnesigenic -3 points 4 months ago

The best path forward is labor organization leading to a general strike, your vote is as worthless as your opinion

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PhoenixDog 0 points 4 months ago

your vote is as worthless as your opinion

I love your idea of a labour union while openly telling someone's voice is useless.

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Amnesigenic 0 points 4 months ago

My idea of a labor union doesn't involve a rigged voting system, fucking duh

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PotatoPie -4 points 4 months ago

Work to change it, how?

By illegally taking away capital from the people illegally fighting back against that change?

You're not in a democracy, stop solving your problems democratically

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Pollo_Jack 10 points 4 months ago

By backing AOC and other progressives.

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Amnesigenic -2 points 4 months ago

Lol fuck off

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MyVeryRealName -13 points 4 months ago

How is the United States not a democracy?

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Amnesigenic 11 points 4 months ago

Your vote doesn't fucking matter, that's how

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MyVeryRealName -5 points 4 months ago

Is that why Trump won?

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PotatoPie 10 points 4 months ago

(1)In a democracy the people elect a representative of their ideology to govern them in fair elections

(2)Both parties in the US in the 21st century start wars on foreign countries, lie about policies, submit to corrupt lobbying

(3)Both parties in the US are not representative of the people of the US

(4)The US is not a democracy

Which of these is wrong?

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MyVeryRealName -7 points 4 months ago

(4) because both parties are elected to power by voters

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grrgyle 8 points 4 months ago

It's a gradient. Did you get to decide who you're allowed to vote for? Do they represent your actual interests? Do you have a say over what happens in your city or your workplace?

Stuff like that

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MyVeryRealName -1 points 4 months ago

Congress very much decides what happens in cities and workplaces afaik

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InputZero 4 points 4 months ago

The electoral college.

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MyVeryRealName -2 points 4 months ago

Well, most electors are honest about which President they vote for

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TimeNaan 65 points 4 months ago

It's so obvious the person who made this is on the left side of this picture.

Only a lib could give the girl on the right both an anarchy patch and a bernie 2020 hat.

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Ensign_Crab 29 points 4 months ago

It’s so obvious the person who made this is on the left side of this picture.

Anyone who says "blue no matter who" is on the left side of this picture. And on the right politically.

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Pollo_Jack 15 points 4 months ago

I've started saying "Vote blue no matter who" to dems that think progressives can't win.

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mfed1122 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, I can't believe this idea has never hit me before. It's fucking beautiful. AOC for the win, vote blue no matter who, right?

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MyVeryRealName -9 points 4 months ago

I'm a socialist and I support the Democratic party

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Ensign_Crab 12 points 4 months ago

Why? They hate you.

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MyVeryRealName 3 points 4 months ago

Not as much as Republicans would hate me

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DupaCycki 10 points 4 months ago

I'm a starving, homeless, gay, trans woman, and I support the republican party.

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Amnesigenic 4 points 4 months ago

No you're not

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MyVeryRealName -2 points 4 months ago

You would know

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terranoid 16 points 4 months ago

I care about my constituents, even though they're filthy unhoused vape addicted lazy Bernie bros. Fist bump!

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Jtotheb 6 points 4 months ago

I believe in the liberatory power of what would probably be termed anarcho-syndicalism and I would have voted for Bernie. I own a sweater with his name on it.

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architect 3 points 4 months ago

Meh I loved Bernie.

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RumorsOfLove 50 points 4 months ago

Watch out guy,s, new wave of astroturfing incoming!!!

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Zephorah 22 points 4 months ago

Yep. Powered by AI.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 6 points 4 months ago

Ugh

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tidderuuf 5 points 4 months ago

The establishment does not like your comment.

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Ellvix 41 points 4 months ago

"Would you like to be stabbed or punched in the face? If you don't pick one we'll go for the stabbing."

I hate it, but please vote.

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Ensign_Crab 2 points 4 months ago

"Don't punch us in the face"

"YOU WANT STABBING! I totally hate this or whatever by the way, vote facepunch no matter who."

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knife 40 points 4 months ago

I hate this so much

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Fedegenerate 39 points 4 months ago

Or, now here me out, Dems could run a platform people want to vote for?

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ILikeBoobies 22 points 4 months ago

That's the joke. The vote blue no matter who enables fascists, so saying it's what they fear is funny.

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krisevol 6 points 4 months ago

But then how would the billionaire keep their money?

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architect 5 points 4 months ago

No! Fuck you!

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irelephant 38 points 4 months ago
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ZombiFrancis 7 points 4 months ago

It is a bona fide depiction of what right wingers think their opposition is.

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krisevol 5 points 4 months ago

It's not

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yakko 4 points 4 months ago

It would be if I reposted it

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binux 37 points 4 months ago

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UnderpantsWeevil 15 points 4 months ago

Technically, this could move in the opposite direction.

It just never does, for some reason.

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ShaggySnacks 14 points 4 months ago

It's almost like political hierarchies run by the Epstein class and centrists prefer conservatism over progress.

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ragebutt 12 points 4 months ago

How could it in a dichotomy of progressivism vs conservatism? The suppressed side will always be the progressive side because progress will always threaten the elite that are propped up by the current system and the elites will almost always have unequal and overwhelming power relative to everyone else. The system is deeply flawed for you and I, but not for musk, gates, and Zuckerberg and as a result they will fight hard to keep things the same with their disproportionate amount of resources

Especially so when the flawed system is designed to create oligarchs, so even if all 900 or so billionaires died tonight they’d rapidly be replaced (and likely lead to even more wealth concentration once the dust settles)

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mfed1122 2 points 4 months ago

....the reason is that the other side does not "vote red no matter who" which forces the party to run people who represent them

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BlindPenguin 0 points 4 months ago

Extremists get their way, because they infiltrate a party of their choice and slowly move it towards their goals. They don't care if the party they root for is 100% exactly what they want, they just manipulate it and its members long enough until it does. The same could be done by the opposing side, yet somehow they decided to stay at home to "teach the dems a lesson", while waiting for the shining hero to save them all...

People might hate me for this, but i think it's not just the maga cult that is affected by the broken educational system and centuries of exceptionalist propaganda. Political parties don't change by doing nothing.

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UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 4 months ago

The same could be done by the opposing side

It absolutely is being done by the other side. Assuming you're describing the sides of Mossad, the CIA, the FSB, and the Guoanbu.

That said, I think you're seriously underselling the impact of strikes, boycotts, and walk outs. A party exists through it's people, and you can absolutely affect an organization when you form a large enough block that's willing to simply walk away from a corrupt and failing organization. That's a very effective way of bringing management to heel.

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BlindPenguin 0 points 4 months ago

It absolutely is being done by the other side. Assuming you’re describing the sides of Mossad, the CIA, the FSB, and the Guoanbu.

No. Those guys are too busy influencing the Republicans and other right wing parties in the west. Although, i wouldn't be surprised if they used similar tactics, like massive bot nets and online propaganda to discourage the rest of the political spectrum from voting for other options.

That said, I think you’re seriously underselling the impact of strikes, boycotts, and walk outs.

That's part of the democratic process. You can do that, and still vote for the lesser evil. Not because it's right to vote for them, but to minimize suffering and make sure democracy still functions. Even voting for a different party would be preferable over not voting at all, despite your broken election system. At least that would give a statistical indication what people want from the government.

Instead, you now got a government that is actively trying to undermine the election process, builds internment camps for immigrants, which might be extended to political opponents pretty soon, is actively supporting a bunch of nutjobs to take over half the middle east, strips the government from all its money, threatens its allies with military action, destroys what little social security and education you guys had left, and empowers a new generation of feudalists to take over whatever will be left of the US. If it doesn't Balkanize before that...

Meanwhile, your leftists are accusing everyone not supportive of their non-voting strategy to be "genociders", and act surprised as to why they're losing even more ground in the battle.

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Ensign_Crab 0 points 4 months ago

They don’t care if the party they root for is 100% exactly what they want

You got 100% of everything you wanted as soon as the party made sure we didn't have a non-genocidal candidate to vote for. It's frankly disgusting watching the genocide-and-nothing-else wing of the party act like people who don't like murdering Palestinian children are unreasonable in any way.

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zaphod -4 points 4 months ago

Maybe it never happens because the people who say they would vote for the "true" left don't vote?

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Ensign_Crab 3 points 4 months ago

Any excuse to avoid facing how voting for your shitty wing of the party got us here like you wanted.

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 4 months ago

Not until Mamdani is on the ballot. Then they will in a landslide

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ironycanal 2 points 4 months ago

You did kind of tell us not to and its pointless.

We looked at your system and kind of agreed. What are you so fucking upset about?

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ironycanal 2 points 4 months ago

So by you're logic, we'll never get all the way there. So we're safe.

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mfed1122 1 point 4 months ago

Zeno's Democracy

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Uebercomplicated 35 points 4 months ago

The thing about this that really makes me ashamed of the democratic establishment is the depiction of the girl on the right vs on the left. This post is literally trying to marginalize progressives. Just look at lemmy, half the progressives here are cishet conputer programmers and Linux nerds in their 40s. This post is trying to enforce a harmful stereotype to make progressives seem like a smaller, less influencial, more radicalized group. It's already playing into bigotry: the progressive is shown as younger (ageism), with darker skin (racism), more "radical" views, as a drug addict., etc; enforcing the bias that progressives are somehow irresponsible young'uns with unrealistic world-views. Fuck this shit. Never thought I'd see something so obviously bigoted on Lemmy.

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Dead_or_Alive 5 points 4 months ago

This mostly comes down to interpretation of the artists intent.

I think that it was the intent to lean into those stereotypes and emphasize that is what conservatives fear the most… these two groups calmly working together rather than opposing each other. Making it more subtle may not get their point across.

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abigscaryhobo 3 points 4 months ago

That's what I took away from it too. I don't see two different political spectrum people, it's people who have different concerns coming together and going "I care about this, you care about that, we can get to that with time, but we both agree, these assholes are against all of us and they gotta go."

One says "free Palestine, open borders" the other has a pride flag and a "science is real" button. But they both have "no kings" and "eat the rich" which is where they can align and take solidarity with each other against corporations and billionaires.

It's what politics are meant to be. We can debate the finer details after we take care of the people, but the well-being of everyone needs to come first no matter what.

Hell we used to have that. Not that long ago the biggest flip flop for politics was abortion vs gay rights and that was kind of it as far as the big stage "swing items" for a lot of people. But as these politicians ignored the needs of the people they've spun up more bullshit to keep people distracted while continuing to ignore more of the needs and wants of the people.

We have to come together as an American community to give standard of living to everyone and take our needs back from the fat cats absorbing the countries wealth for yachts and data centers.

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

That’s what I took away from it too. I don’t see two different political spectrum people

I see a caricature of the left from a centrist who hates them.

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Ensign_Crab 0 points 4 months ago

If centrists ever stop fighting progressives and not republicans, republicans might have something to fear.

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formation 4 points 4 months ago

I swear the depictions are put together by the right as a way to show how "druggie, blue haired people" are trying to take over, belittle and make them seem small. Its a horrible and incorrect stereotype.

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YiddishMcSquidish 2 points 4 months ago

I mean, you're not wrong about most of it. But I don't code, and am a very irresponsible progressive.

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_lilith 35 points 4 months ago

I'mma vote for the lesser of two evils. What I won't do is fist bump a republican liteᡗᡐ like they didn't torpedo every fucking progressive they could. I remember south carolina, biden was dead in the water and suddenly "centrists consolidated" and he was a fucking front runner.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 32 points 4 months ago

Yay.

Election season.

People telling me to vote blue no matter who like I haven’t been doing that since I was 18.

And I’m fucking old.

Not to mention the arguments. People just mad everywhere.

I love politics and don’t hate this stupid game I’m forced to play and always lose.

What a stupid world.

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plutopos 28 points 4 months ago

Fascists don't fear blue voters. You know what they fear? Shattered teeth

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PhoenixDog 15 points 4 months ago

Bricks.

They fear bricks.

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WraithGear 22 points 4 months ago

No its, vote blue no matter who* only applicable if the said blue candidate is not progressive

and the whole fucking time we are voting in primaries, it’s all β€œprogressive candidates can’t win the election” and astroturfed lies and slander using democratic funds to hurt itself in its own confusion. want my vote? field candidates that i would vote for.

and no kings is performative at best

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forkDestroyer 2 points 4 months ago

want my vote? field candidates that i would vote for.

I hope you still go to the polls and write-in if you don't like either candidate.

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WraithGear 7 points 4 months ago

i voted harris for president, but at this point i am so disgusted with how the democrats are acting that i will vote third party if needed.

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mattyroses 6 points 4 months ago

I do. I want it on record that I won't vote for right wing Democrats.

Funniest part is when Del libs tell me that the left won't vote for a woman - because I voted for De La Cruz.

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TheStrongestBoy 18 points 4 months ago

Get infinite Fetterman’s with this one weird trick.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 11 points 4 months ago

Believing in politicians is a fool’s errand.

Elect people who are scared of you.

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mlg 18 points 4 months ago

Eww reddit content in my lemmy feed

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king_comrade 17 points 4 months ago

More dem slop, they still don't understand why they can't win elections. I'd point it out for them, but they'd just scream 'blue no matter who' instead of listening.

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wpb 6 points 4 months ago

Aha! You clearly love Trump!

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foxwolf 16 points 4 months ago

This makes me want to throw up

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Transform2942 15 points 4 months ago

It benefits the security state for a Dem to take the helm and lull the masses back to sleep with sweet words while continuing 99% of Trump's policies

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Ryanmiller70 14 points 4 months ago

Nah I'm sticking third party. Not like the Dems care about my state anyway or that anyone worth a damn would run in the primaries here.

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TORFdot0 14 points 4 months ago

Fascist fear millennial cringe?

Fascists fear class solidarity

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Mycatiskai 8 points 4 months ago

Nuremberg trials.

The gallows.

Consequences to their actions.

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

These are things that centrist democrats have demonstrated that they are wholly uninterested in pursuing.

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Mycatiskai 2 points 4 months ago

And they must be replaced whole cloth by insurgent left progressive candidates that grassroots organize, refused big dollar donors and door knock directly with the votors and make personal connections with them so bullshit campaign ads and mailers don't work.

Local DSA groups are where the organizing can happen.

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TropicalDingdong 14 points 4 months ago

"ANY BLUE WILL DOβ„’"^*^

*Terms an conditions apply.

ANY BLUE WILL DOβ„’ β€” TERMS AND CONDITIONS

By repeating, accepting, endorsing, or being shamed into the phrase β€œAny Blue Will Do,” you agree to the following Terms and Conditions.

1. Binding Obligation of the Voter

You agree that β€œAny Blue Will Do” creates a total, unconditional, irrevocable, morally compulsory obligation to support any candidate designated by the Democratic Party, its consultants, donors, cable news surrogates, or random accounts with flag emojis.

Support may include voting, donating, volunteering, defending the candidate online, pretending the platform is β€œactually pretty progressive,” and explaining to younger voters why asking for healthcare is helping fascism.

2. Definition of β€œBlue”

For purposes of this Agreement, β€œBlue” means any candidate, officeholder, nominee, former Republican, ex-CIA analyst, prosecutor, donor-friendly mayor, or person who has appeared on a Democratic ballot line.

Notwithstanding the above, β€œBlue” shall not include leftists, socialists, labor candidates, anti-war candidates, or anyone who causes donors to say β€œdeeply concerning.”

3. Institutional Discretion

The Democratic Party reserves the sole, exclusive, perpetual, and non-reviewable right to decide when β€œAny Blue Will Do” applies.

This determination may be made before, during, or after the election; in a closed-door meeting; through a leaked memo; or retroactively after the wrong kind of Democrat wins.

4. Primary Election Exceptions

Although β€œAny Blue Will Do” may appear to imply neutrality among Democrats, nothing shall prevent the Party from promoting, funding, endorsing, defending, or quietly coordinating for any candidate deemed sufficiently Normal.

The Party may intervene against left-wing candidates through endorsements, donor pressure, debate exclusion, ballot challenges, super PACs, whisper campaigns, consultant networks, or sudden concerns about electability.

Such actions shall not violate β€œAny Blue Will Do,” because leftists should have known what the phrase meant.

5. Electability Clause

You agree that β€œelectability” means whatever the Party needs it to mean at the time.

A moderate losing by six points proves the country is center-right.

A leftist losing by six points proves progressive politics are permanently toxic.

A moderate winning narrowly is a mandate for bipartisan austerity.

A leftist winning decisively is a local anomaly.

6. Vote-Shaming Rights Reserved

The Party, its affiliates, surrogates, influencers, and emotionally exhausted liberals reserve the right to shame, scold, guilt, condescend to, or morally indict you for any failure to provide enthusiastic support.

This right survives all prior mistreatment, broken promises, ignored policy demands, abandoned constituencies, donor triangulation, union-busting, war funding, anti-immigrant pivoting, or sabotage of your preferred candidate.

Your obligation to vote blue remains in full force regardless of whether the Party has made any effort to earn your vote.

7. No Reciprocal Duty

Nothing in this Agreement creates any reciprocal obligation on the part of the Democratic Party to support candidates, policies, platforms, movements, voters, unions, tenants, students, debtors, the uninsured, the unhoused, the anti-war left, or anyone who has ever said the word β€œmaterial.”

The voter’s duty is mandatory.

The Party’s duty is aspirational, symbolic, non-binding, means-tested, subject to committee review, and likely dead on arrival in the Senate.

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Any platform, promise, slogan, campaign speech, town hall answer, website bullet point, or β€œwe hear you” statement is non-binding promotional material.

The Party may abandon, dilute, reframe, study, means-test, postpone, sunset, privatize, or blame the parliamentarian for any stated policy objective.

No voter shall infer from campaign rhetoric the existence of an actual commitment.

9. Leftist Candidate Contingency

In the event that a leftist wins a Democratic primary, β€œAny Blue Will Do” may be suspended, modified, inverted, or replaced with:

β€œWe need a serious candidate.”

β€œThis district is more moderate than people think.”

β€œWe have concerns about temperament.”

β€œThey haven’t built relationships.”

β€œThe tweets are problematic.”

β€œThis is not the right time.”

β€œWe need someone who can win.”

The Party may further reserve the right to remain neutral, quietly assist the opponent, withhold funding, or discover a sudden principled objection to party loyalty.

10. Consultant Protection Clause

No provision of this Agreement shall endanger the sacred right of consultants to be paid millions of dollars to lose winnable races while advising candidates to say nothing, offend no donors, avoid popular economic policies, and appear in diners wearing rolled-up sleeves.

Consultant compensation shall not be contingent on winning elections.

11. Donor Supremacy Clause

In the event of a conflict between voters and donors, donors shall prevail.

In the event of a conflict between the platform and donors, donors shall prevail.

In the event of a conflict between democracy and donors, a task force shall be convened after the election.

12. Unity

You agree that β€œunity” means left-wing voters supporting the nominee chosen by the Party.

You further agree that β€œdivision” means left-wing voters asking for anything in return.

Calls for unity may be issued immediately after the Party has spent months calling your candidate unelectable, dangerous, unserious, divisive, unrealistic, toxic, radical, online, or insufficiently grateful.

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You acknowledge that harm reduction is extremely important and shall be invoked whenever the Party requires your vote.

You further acknowledge that harm reduction shall not require the Party to reduce harm when doing so would inconvenience donors, police unions, defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies, fossil fuel interests, private insurers, landlords, or anyone described as a β€œstakeholder.”

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You agree that democracy is on the ballot in every election.

You further agree that democracy may be preserved through ballot access litigation, superdelegate influence, donor consolidation, debate manipulation, primary interference, and stern editorials about the dangers of populism.

Any contradiction shall be resolved in favor of the Party.

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By accepting these Terms, you waive any expectation that your vote, organizing, small-dollar donations, canvassing, or repeated emergency mobilization shall entitle you to policy concessions, appointments, accountability, respect, or basic recognition as part of the coalition.

You may be thanked in fundraising emails.

16. Amendment Rights

The Democratic Party reserves the right to amend these Terms at any time without notice.

Amendments may be announced by think tank memo, anonymous senior aide quote, cable news panel consensus, donor retreat, consultant Substack, or sudden redefinition of what β€œrealistic” means.

Continued existence under Republican threat shall constitute acceptance of all amended Terms.

17. Enforcement

This Agreement shall be enforced exclusively against voters to the left of the nominee.

No enforcement mechanism shall apply to conservative Democrats, corporate Democrats, swing-district moderates, billionaire donors, retired generals, anti-choice incumbents, oil-state senators, police-union candidates, or anyone who says β€œkitchen table issues” while opposing the policies that would help people afford kitchens or tables.

18. Remedies

If you violate this Agreement by withholding support, criticizing the nominee, supporting a primary challenger, asking for concessions, mentioning Gaza, saying β€œuniversal healthcare,” objecting to means-testing, or pointing out that the Party did the opposite of what it demanded from you, remedies may include:

vote-shaming, accusations of privilege, accusations of Russian influence, lectures about 2016, screenshots of Supreme Court decisions, demands that you β€œgrow up,” comparisons to Republicans, and fundraising emails addressed to β€œFriend.”

These remedies apply regardless of whether your criticism is accurate.

19. Entire Agreement

These Terms constitute the entire agreement between the Democratic Party and the voter, superseding all prior hopes, movements, promises, platforms, speeches, donations, canvassing shifts, and moments when you briefly believed this relationship might become less abusive.

By proceeding, you acknowledge that β€œAny Blue Will Do” means any blue will do for you, not for them.

20. Acceptance

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 7 points 4 months ago

I’ve seen less verbose comments from cowbee.

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TropicalDingdong 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah I probably need a better presentation, but as stock its got legs I think.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 1 point 4 months ago

I know you wrote this whole thing yourself because that’s just who you are but it gives off massive ai vibes.

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TropicalDingdong 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah I need to work shop it. Like the point was to be overly verbose, but I don't think the presentation works. I like the idea though even though maybe I didn't stick the landing. Anything in particular that gave off AI vibes? Most of this is just me regurgitating accusations I've made of you. Actually, now thinking about it, I should have slipped an easter egg in there for you to find later.

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Transform2942 6 points 4 months ago

This is a hilarious bit if you actually read contracts

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grimpy 4 points 4 months ago

tl

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0ndead 4 points 4 months ago

Ain’t nobody got time for that

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Bohne93 1 point 4 months ago

Thats a lot of words. Too bad i'm not readin 'em.

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TropicalDingdong 4 points 4 months ago

Working up a gif version

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scbasteve 13 points 4 months ago

Fascists are not scared of being voted out lmao.

With patience, you when. If your stance is unchanging, and you just chip away, taking every little bit of power as you can, constantly angling for a best strategic position, you will win.

Fascist will always have a chance, they're not scared of being out voted. They're scared of the working class digging their asses out of their heads and realizing what's up.

That being said, absolutely still vote.

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Hell_nah_brother 13 points 4 months ago

at GITMO they refuse to show this pic to inmates because it’s considered torture.

Good job OP, you earned your label.

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flandish 12 points 4 months ago

nope. when blue also supports genocide, blue is clearly part of the problem.

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agent_nycto -1 points 4 months ago

Ok who you gonna vote for?

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mattyroses 3 points 4 months ago

De La Cruz

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LodeMike -3 points 4 months ago

Will you still vote?

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flandish 7 points 4 months ago

yep. for the person who fits my goals. never red. blue when they don't support genocide.

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LodeMike 2 points 4 months ago

Good

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

If the candidate is a progressive, will you?

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LodeMike -2 points 4 months ago

I will vote no matter what. Not necessarily for people listed on the ballot.

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Ensign_Crab -2 points 4 months ago

Thank you for admitting that "vote blue no matter who" means "vote only for centrists."

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terranoid 12 points 4 months ago

The virgin Hillary establishment democrat neolib atheist cishet ally versus the chad vape and xanax addicted poly amorous anarcho-socialist non binary zoomer

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rumschlumpel 2 points 4 months ago

Implying the zoomer isn't also atheist?

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terranoid 4 points 4 months ago

Probably, but maybe not as vocally as the cishet ally with a "SCIENCE IS REAL" bumper sticker on her ass.

The chad nonbinary anarcho-socialist knows that science is a real methodology and not a belief system to stand behind, and doesn't need to broadcast it.

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TheDemonBuer 12 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty jaded and cynical about the whole thing at this point, but I also don't have a better idea. Idk, just do whatever you think is right.

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SailorFuzz 3 points 4 months ago

Vote "Someone turns off the simulation" 2028

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canniest_tod 10 points 4 months ago

Fascists are scared of a lot of things, but this isn't one of them. One camp uses a degree of class analysis, while the other is aggressively identitarian and thinks class politics are the hallmark of a bad person who'll abandon marginalized groups.

Both rely chiefly on electoral wins to get the outcome they want. This alliance is a paper tiger.

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crapwittyname 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah, one of the few things fascists don't fear is voting blocs, because they're just interested in seizing power by any means necessary.

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nullspace 10 points 4 months ago

If you want to know why lefties lose you need only look at the comments critical of this post.

It's absolutely valid to be displeased by how center or right-leaning the "left-wing" candidates are. But you have to accept that only supporting your perfect candidate is just going to keep pushing all candidates to the right as they lose.

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mattyroses 10 points 4 months ago

Uh no, declaring you'll vote for any candidate slightly less right wing than Hitler allows all candidates to go right.

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Ensign_Crab 4 points 4 months ago

That's the entire idea behind "no matter who." The intended outcome is two identical nazi parties.

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dltk 9 points 4 months ago

There can be a strategic approach with more nuance than either you or the graphic are expressing. I live overseas but have to vote in California as it was the last state I was resident. I haven't voted for Dems (only independents) since 2008. If my residence were in Ohio or Florida, I would vote blue. Some localities offer the luxury of protest voting without the risk of shooting yourself in the foot. That said, if Democrats can be secure in pragmatists voting for the lesser evil, they have absolutely no reason not to be evil themselves.

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nullspace -1 points 4 months ago

I can respect that take.

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Stamau123 6 points 4 months ago

There's barely any social studies in the country, you'd think we didn't have an electoral college the way people think voting works

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Ensign_Crab 6 points 4 months ago

It’s absolutely valid to be displeased by how center or right-leaning the β€œleft-wing” candidates are.

But you aren't.

But you have to accept that only supporting your perfect candidate

Stop framing a candidate that supports genocide as 'not your perfect candidate' just because any genocide supporter is your perfect candidate.

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nullspace -4 points 4 months ago

I love the genocide argument because the people who withheld their votes got catastrophically worse results for both Palestinians and themselves.

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YiddishMcSquidish 2 points 4 months ago

I absolutely love how this objectively true statement gets ratio'd every single time on here. Like I know 163 children who are so happy people can sniff their own farts in a safe-ish country.

Like their deaths are literally on the hands of the over privileged fuck nuts that claim they're superior by :: checks my notes:: sitting at home and doing fuck all nothing.

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Amnesigenic 0 points 4 months ago

"Objectively true" lol cope

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Amnesigenic -1 points 4 months ago

According to fucking who? Dems also support Israel dumbass

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PhoenixDog -1 points 4 months ago

Remind me, but I don't think Harris and Walz were campaigning on building a resort in Gaza after Trump campaigned on funding Israel.

Like, you can correlate support all you want, but one side was not even close to the other. I also don't think Harris and Walz were going to wage an illegal war on Iran, thus crippling the world economy. But hey, that's just me. I'm sure we're all better off with Trump as President, right?

Your dumbass opinion is the problem. "I'm not going to vote for this person because their healthcare plan doesn't go far enough" while letting the other person win as he completely guts whatever healthcare you have left. So instead of something, you'd rather nothing.

This is why America is fucked, and I just kick my feet up and watch.

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Ensign_Crab -2 points 4 months ago

You act like anyone who opposes your only policy is a nonvoter because you will never listen to anyone not named netanyahu.

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architect 3 points 4 months ago

Or we can complain about candidates without people acting like it’s a whole propaganda campaign.

The people I know that didn’t vote aren’t people I would consider the left, or the person on the right. Most of them liked rfk ffs. They are non political and ignorant. They might stand by social issues but they don’t actually understand or know politics.

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 4 months ago

If you want to know why lefties lose

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formation -1 points 4 months ago

Piss off normie

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PhoenixDog 1 point 4 months ago

Found the person who doesn't vote but bitches about their representation anyway.

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formation -3 points 4 months ago

I live in a MMP country shitbag. I can vote for smaller parties and get representation not your stupid as fuck 2 party system.

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PhoenixDog 1 point 4 months ago

Uhhh... Who wants to tell this idiot I'm not American.

Anyone? It'll be hilarious.

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Amnesigenic -1 points 4 months ago

Your candidates are not merely imperfect, they are monstrous and should be summarily executed

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nullspace -2 points 4 months ago

Now that's an ml response. Did not disappoint.

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

Genocide isn't mere "imperfection" just because you love anyone who commits it.

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Amnesigenic -1 points 4 months ago

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wpb 9 points 4 months ago

If you keep doing something over and over, for decades, and still everything gets worse, then that something isn't working. Feels like something that doesn't need saying, but apparently it does.

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Amnesigenic 9 points 4 months ago

Lol good luck with that

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Bloomcole 8 points 4 months ago

This is a shit meme in many ways?

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ICastFist 8 points 4 months ago

The funniest thing is how 'muricans look at this and say "yes, we're a free democracy"

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munkee 3 points 4 months ago

Can't say I've heard anyone say that for a decade or so, actually.

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YiddishMcSquidish 1 point 4 months ago

Republicans are usually the only people I see echo this.

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LemmyBruceLeeMarvin 8 points 4 months ago

Siri define 'the ratchet effect'

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Amnesigenic 4 points 4 months ago

Downvoted for being right

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LemmyBruceLeeMarvin 8 points 4 months ago

See, Kamala is the 'least harm' candidate because she [checks notes] will literally continue Bidens genocide while pivoting to the right to bring in those mythical undecideds. Slay kween.

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plutopos 3 points 4 months ago

I prefer if the wheel is locked in place than if it goes further (if i understood the reference correctly)

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LemmyBruceLeeMarvin 2 points 4 months ago

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plutopos 1 point 4 months ago

Yeah this. I wish the wheel could be turned to the left, but if it won't, I prefer that it stays still than it moves further to the right

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LemmyBruceLeeMarvin 3 points 4 months ago

So step back and look back 't the last 50 years of American politics and ask yourself: when has it stopped moving to the right

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Leviathan 1 point 4 months ago

Does she?

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Archer 7 points 4 months ago

Oh boy, the Republican consultants here to depress Dem turnout with primary purity tests and doomscrolling have arrived in the comments

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wpb 16 points 4 months ago

Calling wanting a candidate not to enthusiastically support a genocide a purity test is completely disgusting.

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Ensign_Crab 7 points 4 months ago

Centrists will never understand that there are people who don't like genocide.

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Amnesigenic 7 points 4 months ago

Purity testing is a good thing, it keeps shit out of our milk and corrupt assholes out of our elected offices

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Ensign_Crab 7 points 4 months ago

"Purity test" means "I have no standards and I demand you abandon yours."

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parrhesia 2 points 4 months ago

Its like clockwork

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mfed1122 1 point 4 months ago

Oh boy, the Republican consultants are here to convince people to vote blue no matter who. That way, some milquetoast Dem candidate will get annihilated by the Republican candidate again.

See how stupid that makes me sound?

Can you people just once actually engage with counter-arguments rather than trying to sweep people's points under the rug by saying, oh you're a bot, oh you're a shill, oh you're Chinese or Russian or Republican or NSA or FBI or you're the deep state, holy fuck. You sound like someone from /pol/. Protip: refusing to address the argument and instead say that junk makes it look like you have no real argument. I'm starting to think you're the real bot here, bot! Haha see I called you a shill, that means your argument is invalid

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skozzii 7 points 4 months ago

But maybe , just maybe this time let's not force us to go with establishment democrats, let the people actually decide.

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mfed1122 5 points 4 months ago

No Bro, didn't you see? No matter who. If MTG is appointed as our next candidate we gotta vote for her. No matter who bro

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UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 4 months ago

Insert screaming accusations of being a Tankie / Russian Bot / Secret Trump Supporter

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DexiMachina -2 points 4 months ago

We all need to vote in the primaries like it's our job.

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

When the party permits primaries to happen.

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Ensign_Crab 6 points 4 months ago

When we can rely on centrists to vote blue even when the primary winner is one of the progressives they hate almost as much as they hate the idea of a living Palestinian, then they can tell us to vote blue no matter who, and not one fucking second before.

We saw the disgusting racist attacks the centrist wing made against Mamdani. Centrists haven't changed one bit since they formed a PAC to get McCain elected because they didn't want a Black man to be their nominee. Centrists are "vote blue no matter who" only until they don't get 100% of everything they want, then they revert back to "party unity my ass" and campaign for shit like Cuomo.

The message here is the same as always from centrists: Shut up and fall in line because we hate you and always will.

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BenchpressMuyDebil 6 points 4 months ago

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cattywampus 5 points 4 months ago
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daannii 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah so a lot of Israel politicians and Republicans actually run as blue candidates.

That's lazy thinking.

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PP_BOY_ 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah no. You wanna know why so many progressives are getting nominations this cycle? It's because we didn't "vote blue no matter who" last year and the corpocrats are kind of realizing they're gonna have to budge to actually get people to the polls again. Vote for the person you... want to vote for.

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fizzle 4 points 4 months ago

It’s because we didn’t β€œvote blue no matter who” last year

If you want to draw a line from not voting blue to more progressives getting nominations then you have to skip the inconvenient side effect of having a fascist child rapist felon as president who's not going to allow a free election.

Well done.

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PP_BOY_ 3 points 4 months ago

Didn't say it was preferable or even good, but it is the reason the DNC is tepidly allowing outspoken socialists on their ticket when just ten years ago they were collaborating with Trump to take out Sanders. They can sense that corporate support is going away and that their voters wont bother to show up if the candidates are no different than the last guy

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Ensign_Crab 2 points 4 months ago

Didn’t say it was preferable or even good, but it is the reason the DNC is tepidly allowing outspoken socialists on their ticket when just ten years ago they were collaborating with Trump to take out Sanders.

They're not "allowing" anything. They're still doing everything they can to block progressive candidates. It's just stopped working.

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fizzle 1 point 4 months ago

That's not my feeling.

If anything I feel like they don't really have any strategy other than being not-trump.

There's no cohesion or brand or message.

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 4 months ago

It’s because we didn’t β€œvote blue no matter who” last year

You 100% fucking did. That's why Mikie Sherrill and Abigail Spanberger are governors.

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Endymion_Mallorn 4 points 4 months ago

We had a choice between Sherrill and Ciattarelli. I think even in spite of how useless she's been and how she's been handling Delaney Hall, we made the better choice.

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PP_BOY_ 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, 2024, my bad. Spanberger is about as liberal as a Dem can be, she is not some ultraleft savior of the commonwealth btw.

T. Virginian

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trainsrkool 4 points 4 months ago

no thnx, thats how you end up with bluemaga and the uniparty

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MyBrainHurts 6 points 4 months ago

Why am I zero percent surprised that the account calling Ukrainians Nazis also wants to put the Republicans in charge?

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commie 5 points 4 months ago

they never endorsed Republicans

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liking625 3 points 4 months ago

Like giving a free pass to those who through corruption and distance from the people enabled republicans to put a monster at the head of the white house?

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texture 3 points 4 months ago

im upset

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mfed1122 3 points 4 months ago

What a dank meme my fellow left wing ally!!

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StarvingMartist 3 points 4 months ago

Get mean vote green

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resipsaloquitur 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, they’re terrified of Fetterman, Manchin, Schumer, etc.

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Skyrmir -5 points 4 months ago

As opposed to another Cruz, Graham, or McConnell? Yeah Ill even put up with Fetterman.

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resipsaloquitur 7 points 4 months ago

What's the difference?

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Skyrmir 0 points 4 months ago

Changing the majority party means even if there are shit heads, we won't be having votes to make everything worse. The reason Trump gets away with all his shit is because Johnson is there to cover for him in the house and Thune in the Senate. Even Schumer would do a better job than Thune, with a few assholes in the party.

Even if you don't like the shit heads like Fetterman, Manchin or Lieberman, they give the party a majority to put a stop to the rightward ratcheting of our politics. The time to get rid of them is during primaries, that's how you turn the ratchet back.

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resipsaloquitur 3 points 4 months ago

But they don’t. They don’t give the democrats a majority if they keep voting with republicans.

And we saw how Obama sat on his hands for two years while Dems had a supermajority. Then when republicans had control of congress, gee golly gosh, the mean republicans won’t let us have single payer. Now take this health care plan written by The Heritage Institute and like it.

And NAFTA. And the Biden crime bill. And the Clinton welfare reform.

They’re just republicans with blue ties and pride flag pins.

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Ensign_Crab 3 points 4 months ago

As though any centrist wouldn't gleefully vote for any of those as long as they were running against someone who wanted to raise the minimum wage.

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mech 2 points 4 months ago

Who's the Artist?

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king_comrade 10 points 4 months ago

A totally real humanβ„’

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mech 4 points 4 months ago

Ah, Vincent Artistman, doing an art.

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Bloomcole 2 points 4 months ago

Some 12 YO

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mfed1122 1 point 4 months ago

Ain't no way a 12-year-old this artistically gifted would already be drawing something this moronic.

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sleepycapibara 2 points 4 months ago

Who's the artist? If anyone knows

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ZombiFrancis 7 points 4 months ago

AI with edits, or they didn't want to credit themselves.

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SpookyBogMonster 4 points 4 months ago

A fucking robot

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BlackLaZoR 2 points 4 months ago

Future dictator surely approves!

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whosepoopisonmybuttocks 1 point 4 months ago
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Danarchy 0 points 4 months ago

Vote geeen for jelly beans (they taste the best)

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AngryRobot 7 points 4 months ago

You mean Jill Stein, the lich who shambles oit of her crypto every 4 years to spend Russian money and steal votes away from the Democratic candidate?

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commie 5 points 4 months ago

misinformation: jill stein was investigated by the senate and no ties to russian money were found.

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AngryRobot 0 points 4 months ago path: 0 24214121 24214442 24215141 24215603, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 4
commie 6 points 4 months ago

this doesn't show she's ever taken any money from russia.

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commie 4 points 4 months ago

she doesn't steal votes, she earns them.

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AngryRobot 0 points 4 months ago

She's a ducking Russian troll, dude.russia pays her.

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commie 1 point 4 months ago

i've never been able to find any evidence for such a claim.

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Danarchy 1 point 4 months ago

No I just like that flavor of jelly bean and skittle

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agent_nycto 0 points 4 months ago

The people mad at this post, unironically and without any self awareness, also get mad about "both sides ism" and complain that the left isn't a unified front.

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UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 4 months ago

Well, it's slop. I can't blame people for feeling revulsion

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mfed1122 1 point 4 months ago

You've posted so many comments on here that seem completely out of keeping with the post itself. Did you intend the post ironically?

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UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 4 months ago

Definitely intended it to agitate.

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solidheron -1 points 4 months ago

Democrats are alright. Maybe not the national ones but the ones that help out locally

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Bloomcole 4 points 4 months ago

The updated "Hitler did some good things for Germany"

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IPeaceInYourFace -2 points 4 months ago

If voting worked, they wouldn't let you do it.

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PhoenixDog 4 points 4 months ago

The Republicans sure are trying to prevent it right now for November. Because they know it still works.

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UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 4 months ago path: 0 24238485 24239431, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
BlindPenguin 1 point 4 months ago

If voting worked, they would do everything to discourage people from voting. Oh, wait...

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Ensign_Crab -1 points 4 months ago

the genocide wing either doesn't realize or doesn't care that their actions do exactly this. And then they blame the voters they insisted they didn't need when they lose to the other genocidal candidate they're happy with.

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BlindPenguin -1 points 4 months ago

Not voting leads to extremist parties gaining ground, because extremists will always vote for their option. Which in turn leads to people suffering under their policies at best, and at worst to situations like Nazi Germany. Which makes the whole genocide argument look kinda performative.

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Ensign_Crab 1 point 4 months ago

If you want people to vote for you, act like they're people with agency and not just vending machines that dispense votes when you kick them hard enough.

Or keep losing. You seem to like losing.

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UrPartnerInCrime -4 points 4 months ago

Good idea, commenters. Lets keep fighting each other about the perfect candidate for an election that already happened. Surely this will change the situation were in

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Ensign_Crab 2 points 4 months ago

You got your perfect candidate as soon as no one who opposed genocide was running.

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UrPartnerInCrime -2 points 4 months ago

What about someone who opposes genocide but was on the Epstien list? Also perfect by your comment.

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UrPartnerInCrime -2 points 4 months ago

So someone who opposes genocide but agrees with racial segregation and removing homosexual rights is a perfect in your book?

You bigot

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UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 4 months ago

Lets keep fighting each other about the perfect candidate

I genuinely wonder what you think a primary involves.

Like, do all the candidates just hug it out?

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Ensign_Crab 2 points 4 months ago

I genuinely wonder what you think a primary involves.

It involves installing a pro-genocide candidate without asking anyone.

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UrPartnerInCrime 1 point 4 months ago

for an election that already happened

Good job just leaving half a sentence out to fit your narrative. Very cool

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