The claim that people would like him if he was not a republican is one of the stupider pieces of cope they’ve come up with.

From their perspective, it makes sense. They hate Democrats because they're Democrats. And if one of them switches sides to become a Republican, they'll suddenly find excuses for them, forgive everything they've ever done, and support them no matter what.

They're so baked in tribalism that they can't understand disliking a politician for any other reason. So they think of course things would be reversed if he was part of the other tribe. They, of course, would instantly hate him if he became a Democrat.

It's also a self-report that they like him only because he's a republican.

It's not just cope. It's that these people are so surrealistically stupid and lack all sense of curiosity that many legitimately don't know a fucking thing about the guy they voted to be the most powerful figure on the planet. So they think we must be acting unreasonable to hate him so much.

I mean a common phrase among them leading up to 2016 was "he'll run it like a business" because they were entirely unaware that the dipshit has driven every business venture he's ever attempted into the ground except for real estate because a monkey could be successful at real estate if it inherits a bunch of its daddy's money and real estate.

They don't even know who he is.

If anything, Biden Derangement Syndrome was absolutely a thing. MAGAts were so incredibly panicked about Biden when he was an entirely milquetoast, middle-of-the road Democrat. Do even they argue that Trump is just another Republican? I can’t see how anyone could.

For them, it is. So they assume it is for everyone.

It's more that these morons actually behave this way. They trust anyone with an "(R)" at the end of their name.

The Democratic Party has its Gavin Newsoms and Joe Manchins and Michael Bloombergs and Anthony Weiners aplenty.

No shortage of Democrats on the Lolita Express. No shortage of liberal billionaires hungry for another war in the Middle East, another trillion dollar data center spend on public land, or another Bay of Pigs on Cuba.

None of Trump's politics are unique to Trump. We've got shitty little fascists crawling all over the country, from the bluest cities of Washington and Minnesota to the reddest oil fields of Texas and Wyoming. If anything, the latest wave of Silicon Valley "Network State" fucks have been more concentrated in liberal districts. And their money has produced a wave of horrifyingly bad liberal politicians who are as much responsible for the Obama->Trump party slump as any QAnon club.

It's easier on their hamster brains that way. Means they don't have to worry about doing any homework.

Ironically, when it comes to actual sports, they'll get on some Good Willing Hunting shit and go ultra deep into player stats and coaching strategies. Probably the only time I've ever heard one not sound like a complete idiot.

Well tbf, he got a stroke and basically that's how he turned conservative

Pennsylvania has a Democrat ogre

Two, really. Fetterman's the one that keeps showing up on reactionary news media to talk shit. But Shapiro's been taking his own turn as an avowed Zionist, a corporate sleaze, and a reactionary fearmonger whenever he's had the opportunity.

Political brain rot is believing people dislike Trump solely because he's a Republican.

That's the fundamental problem with American politics. Too many people treat it like team sports: I have to defend my side no matter what.

No, you don't.

You don't owe a political party your loyalty. Parties are tools, not identities. If your own side does something wrong, or even something you consider objectively immoral, you should be willing to say so. Blind partisanship isn't a virtue; it's the abandonment of independent judgment.

Not even Hakeem Jeffries or Ken Martin like democrats!

He’s the archetype of the 80s movie developer who wants to tear down the old skate rink or whatever.

For you. I see Dems constantly glazing Obama. Who, while not as bad as trump, was pretty fucking bad in a "it's like Bush never left" kind of way. Affiliation is all that matters to a stunning number of people.

How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy

He only made it through the Republican primary because the Democrats helped him through it.

The punchline of the last decade has been how neoliberals and reactionaries within the liberal party laid the foundation for a Permanent Republican Majority. Even now, they're more interested in beating back an insurgent popular progressive movement than ousting fascists in their own backyards.

A different take: If he was a Democrat, would he have the same opinions? If he existed as current, he would not be a democrat, but maybe his experiences were caused him to develop in other directions.

If Trump espoused democratic values, and was for things like universal healthcare, higher wages, privacy and personal autonomy, hadn't been a sex pest, wasn't a grifter and on and on and on... then no, I might not despise him.

Not that Jason above was in any way being sincere in the question.

Remember when Al Fra ken had to resign for giving too much tongue on a kiss and for screwing up his hover hands when posing for photos?

Remember when Howard Dean's career was ended over making a weird screech in a victory speech?

1. It puts legitimacy behind their statements. You are no longer discussing with an internet no-name weirdo, the person you are writing with has a name and face.
2. They weild authority in the field or bear respect assigned to them and are thus using it...or simply used to writing under their name due to that.
3. They're one of "I have nothing to hide" folks. And I don't mean surveilence apologists - I mean folk who have such weirdly strong ego (without being egoists. At least most of the time) that their belief in who they are is unshakeable. They tend to rawdog the world.

Some combination of the three above is most common in my perspective.

There's really no guarantee that people are using their real name and photo in most cases. People tying their presence to their work or something is different, but I generally never assume I'm talking to the person being presented to me. Some people also just don't care, don't realize there could be consequences, or they signed up when the internet was a different place (thinking twitter would be more like Facebook or MySpace where it might make some sense to use your real name).

They stood up and said Hillary was acceptable. And now here we are.

Aw my two favorite things. "bOtH SiDeS": Congratulations, you found a way to insert that where it absolutely made no sense. Then we have "I kNoW ExAcTlY hOw AlL pOsSiBlE tImElInEs WoUlD hAvE gOnE!!1"

They exist, because we allowed them to.

I would rather have George Bush back than more Trump. Not that I think he was any good at all.

mittens romney?

Quick reminder that a significant chunk of the MAGA base that isn’t wildly misinformed love him for exactly the reasons you just mentioned. Republican vitriol loves that he spews hated. They delight in how his policies make the right people hurt.

I never watched The Apprentice, but I saw ads for it and I figured he was just playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss.

Believe it or not, I always took it as the opposite. The first time Trump wanted to run he was laughed out of the primary. He had a long history as a narcissistic con man to anyone in the northeast and there’s no way he’d be elected. The entire point of “The Apprentice” was to rebuild his image.

Maybe some people took it as playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss, but he was toned down from reality. His narcissism was toned down, he acted mostly morally, less of an asshole, he appeared to know something about business. They even played down his need to plaster his name in gold everywhere. His entire image was much more palatable than the previous two decades of headlines

Unfortunately it succeeded

Above all else, Donald Trump is a useful idiot. More powerful people have been using him for a lot longer than he's been president.

He'll go along with whatever, as long as he gets attention/money. He's crass, so if he was a Democrat president, he'd still be an asshole, but he would have gone along with the liberal policies.

But it would never happen because Democrats are held to a higher standard and, as an idiot, the only way he can make himself stand out is through bigotry, which doesn't fly for liberal voters. DEFINITELY flies for conservatives though.

I still think it's possible that in 2016 they told him they were signing him up to play the President in a mockumentary. And that they still haven't told him otherwise.

Copypasted from another comment There is a pile of shit in the picture, so if you were to stretch the meaning of the term "shitpost" perhaps it could count? 🤔

he shouldve just gone into pro wrestling instead of politics. would have been an all time manager

as long as he paid his taxes and would be held accountable for any fraud he commits.

When he was campaigning the first time he bragged that the irs did not have the ability to untangle his businesses enough to prove anything ….. somehow people thought that was a good thing?

There is a pile of shit in the picture, so if you were to stretch the meaning of the term "shitpost" perhaps it could count? 🤔

It's got Trump's picture in it. That's pretty shitty.

i think we lemmites should do our due diligence and start shitposting on c/politics

I keep saying someone needs to make a politicalshitpost community.

I would suggest that his logic is, in fact, based in the notion that his personal interest must be placed above Party, Country, and Principles.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

- George Washington, being absolutely correct about how political parties are a bad thing.

Probably on the fat drug.

But did you vote D or R the last election?

That's all very interesting, but seems like you may have Australia Derangement Syndrome.

Anyone know what's up with this?

Bot spamming every thread with dumb Australia facts.

I would love it if you made actual posts about this stuff.

c/LostLemtards