This is Musk’s “Reichstag Fire” moment for Twitter.

The rate limiting is not because of “extreme manipulation”, but because of piss-poor code that Twitter deployed as part of their change to only allow tweets to be viewed if logged in. Twitter is effectively DDoSing itself right now. But, it creates an opportunity for Musk to create a narrative.

These “temporary” limits will probably remain inevitably, as they provide another benefit to Twitter - they drive Blue subscriptions. Unfortunately, they also repel free users from using the platform entirely, and at a much higher ratio.

Twitter is going to become even more of a cesspool than it already is at an alarming rate. Crazy how many established social media platforms have decided to crumble at the exact same time.

Elon Musk, the latest billionaire owner of the online screaming match known as Twitter, sat slumped at his desk, staring at a wall of monitors blinking with a technicolor smorgasbord of error messages. The reason? He'd just let Twitter's hosting contract with Google lapse because he thought it'd be fun to see if he could migrate it somewhere else. The results? Not so fun.

A comment on Reddit had caught his eye, and he couldn't shake it. "Every now and then Elon must have a moment of clarity. Where it occurs to him 'Maybe I am just stupid?' But then he violently buries the thought."

"Stupid?" he scoffed aloud to his empty office, sending a mini landslide of Mars Rover prototypes tumbling off his desk. "I'm a genius."

He remembered how smart he'd felt when he decided to axe the account verification system, only to reinstate it after a week of high-profile mix-ups that included the Dalai Lama being mistaken for a llama enthusiast.

And the content moderation! Who needs it? Well, as it turned out, everyone. Without it, Twitter had turned into a feral wilderness of conspiracy theories, insult slinging, and more unsolicited pictures of eggplants than a greengrocer's catalog.

And then there was Kanye. "Free Kanye!" he'd declared one afternoon after one too many rocket fuel coffees. But after the notorious rapper had declared war on flannel shirts and clogged up the site with CAPS LOCK tweets, the ban was back on faster than you can say "Kim Kardashian for president."

"Stupid?" he muttered again, watching as Twitter spontaneously DDOS'd itself like a robotic bull in a digital china shop.

There was a pause. Then a grin spread slowly across Elon's face, as if he'd just understood the punchline to a particularly tricky joke. "Naaaah," he laughed, slapping the desk.

He looked at the chaos on the screens, the digital calamity his decisions had wrought, and couldn't help but chuckle. There was something amusing about being this absurdly, cosmically, hilariously brilliant.

"Back to the drawing board," he chuckled, picking up a Mars Rover and making it do little jumps across his desk.

As a former individual who understands the underlying systems, it seems like they botched deployment of a new feature causing issues and cannot figure out how to solve them.

Most of Twitter is and has been in maintenance mode since acquisition (think of 10 man engineering team and 1 left to handle maintenance).

That rate limit is insanely low, even for verified. I’m not verified, but I hit the limit in like 10 minutes of very distracted usage.

Transcription for the blind: Screenshot of a Twitter post from Elon Musk, Twitter handle @elonmusk, that says:

To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits:

• Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
• Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
• New unverified accounts to 300/day

1:01 PM Jul 1, 2023 3.6M Views

-Transcription from a human volunteer. Let me know how I can do better.

I thought this guy was supposed to be stepping down - didn't he even announce the new CEO?

Therefore any company that puts out notices or alerts via Twitter should immediately exit the platform. Running their own server on mastodon would be a better bet

This reeks of him scaling back infrastructure to reduce costs, gets overloaded, and the C-level talent remainings best idea to prop it up is rate limiting.

Pathetic.

Twitter and Reddit both dying at the same time was not what I expected in 2023

Maybe I'm dumb, but this is starting to seem like these Tech CEOs are dumber than we thought.

Why not just make 4000 accounts and have distributed scraping? What are they going to do next? "Unverified Twitter accounts can only be accessed 10 times?"

This is beyond speedrunning enshittification now...

I'm eager to see what twitter users think of this - lots of people are watching, and corpos taking notes.

Edit: He's announced an increased limit but it's hardly generous IMO.

Anyone still on Twitter at this point is getting what they asked for. It's like you drove past every "last restroom for X miles" sign, and now you're in the middle of nowhere and have to piss.

Why are so many people suddenly against Twatter burning? I thought we all wanted that?

I bet the throtteling is not caused by data scraping but by Twitter not paying their Google Cloud bills and therefore now with the new month they got services suspended.

Image Transcription: Twitter Post:

Elon Musk, @elonmusk

To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits

• Verified accounts are limited to reaching 6000 posts/day
• Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
• New unverified accounts to 300/day

^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

The Future

He's impulsive and doesn't know when to shut up. I got the distinct impression that, initially, he was absolutely not serious about buying Twitter. It was a joke/jest. BUT, because his antics affected their stock price he actually got forced into the purchase and now he's desperately trying to figure out how to make the purchase worth what he actually paid, which is fine and all, except he seems to be leading by impulse, not by consensus or logic. He wakes up in the morning, has some random ass idea and implements it without any oversight. Even his new CEO straight up admitted that she is basically a straw man CEO who will offer no friction to anything Elon wants to do.

I see that a lot of people complain about reddit, twitter, and whatever mainstream website completely fuck the consumer, but fail to realize one crucial thing. The only time change happens in mob settings is when the pain of no change is greater than the pain of change. I applaud Elon, spez, and who ever else wishes to put there services behind their paywall whether it’s an API or just simply viewing tweets. Anyone in the know knows that it’s a crock of shit and anyone who isn’t is annoyed to the point where change is preferable. The sooner people figure out posting information, entertainment, and other forms of media/knowledge to the benefit of a company is horrendous the better. Now we have the opportunity to get rid of the corporate greed and basically open-source peoples knowledge from around the globe. Although like with reddit, mob mentality poses a real threat to communities like this one, I trust that you all are normal and level headed individuals who can come to disagreements but still respect eachother (as corny as that sounds). I much prefer it over giving more information to companies who use it to profit off of my content, while I receive nothing.

*Edit: Thank you kind stranger for the reddit gold! Glad you spent real hard cash so I can have reddit premium and reddit coins! The lovely people at reddit will be spending your money sitting on a yacht eating grapes in one hand and lobster in the other. I’m sure they are real thankful too! :) *

That man has got to legitimately be one of the stupidest motherfuckers to ever luck his ass into a pile of money.

Maybe it was just me but Musk has never seemed like someone who actually understood tech. Just a rich guy who buys up other's work and talks a big game. I knew the second I heard he bought Twitter it was going to crash and burn. He's doing it way faster than I thought possible.

Of course he will eventually say this was all on purposes and not that he is crap at business and tech.

Somehow I doubt it's even that. The guy's just a braindead, incompetent moron. I don't think the fucker's even smart enough to realize this is literally the worst possible decision he could've made.

Sometimes the real DDOS are the companies we buy along the way

This isn't mildly infuriating, Musk is being the biggest fedi advocate out there! He's selflessly nuking his own site so he can drive traffic to decentralized alternatives. This is a good thing lol, and should be an important lesson on link rot, and that social media should never be the primary method of communication.

limiting engagement an app that RELIES ON ENGAGEMENT????? IT CAN'T POSSIBLY GET DUMBER THAN THIS???

Time for Mastodon

What did he even think the purpose of APIs were. Data scraping puts unnecessary load on servers only to scrape out majority of the content. It’s funny how he shoots himself in the leg and now complain.

Brilliant move to help sell more ads on the platform: limit how many people will even be able to see those ads

I mean I see why Reddit and Twitter are doing it. We're in a really weird transitional period of the internet right now, for better or for worse. They're doing it to prevent scraping, because why would you read all these garbage tweets to get to the information you need when an ChatGPT can spit out the exact information without fluff? It's taking their content without any funding back to them, effectively stealing their revenue.

So what are these companies to do? Honestly I hope this is birth to a new form of social media, and this benefits the fedi greatly. It will be unsustainable to run large social media companies like theirs who profit off of user data and content. Whereas tons of fedi servers ran by hobbiest, effectively ran out of pocket or by donations, is much more sustainable. They're doing it for community and more pure content that everyone wants without corporate fluff. If ChatGPT scrapes the fedi community, that's okay because the fedi isn't designed to make money so nothing is lost.

Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It's part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism's status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

The specific moment we're in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn't be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

So with Spez having a hard on for Elon and how he runs Twitter, how long until we see this on Reddit? Premium members can view 1000 posts/day and regular members can only view 100 posts/day. Similar rule will apply to comments too.

"Extreme levels of data scraping" my ass. This is probably meant to reduce server costs because Elon put a huge hole in this boat and now he does a very loud "look-what-you-made-me-do" scream. And what on earth would "system manipulation" exactly mean? Sounds like some pseudo-profound bullshit.

Things like Reddit and Twitter are bad for billionaires. It makes it harder for them to exploit you when there is a public place to talk about their bullshit.

"To address extreme levels of failing to pay our bills & firing every competent person at Twitter, we've applied the following temporary limits:"

It must be nice to be able to waste 44 billion dollars and not miss it.

I could live comfortably for the rest of my life on 1/10,000th of what Elon spent.

This truly is a genius level move. If users are using your site, they are contributing to your hosting costs. You don’t want that.

Elon is so damn transparent. I NEVER remembering anything like this happening before Elon. Dude is running this like a moronic mob boss.

"Hey..it'd be a shame if you could only view 600 tweets. I have this Twitter Blue that might be able to help...."

I gave up on Twitter when this turd took over but holy shit...

Between this and reddit going "down" yesterday, the internet just sucks right now.

It must have taken all of Elon's willpower to not make the limits:

• Verified accounts are limited to reading 6969 posts/day
• Unverified accounts to 420 posts/day
• New unverified accounts to 69/day

That has been his goal since he got forced to actually buy it rather than just boosting the stock so he could make a profit, which like most of his antics was really the only goal (publicity and money)

This seems extremely low for all categories. Good for getting people unaddicted though

I think it's important to remember that these companies DID NOT CREATE THIS DATA! They are protecting things that are not theirs.

Almost certainly this isn't anything to do with scraping. Like with Reddit, those with a stake in Twitter stand to benefit from AI and, as far as I know, there's no mass reposting (retweeting?) effort to something like Mastodon.

That would be trivial to block anyway, since it would be easy to identity the service accounts and source IP's of the requests. No need to impact average users.

What's more likely is he hasn't paid the bill for his cloud infrastructure and no longer has the capacity to serve so many users.

IMO, that's what you get when you fire half of your staff.

There’s a golden rule: don’t make big changes on an app on Friday because if it fails people are going to have to work during the weekend.

This asshole made the changes on a Saturday

Great for the fediverse! I suspect that these changes to twitter and reddit are mainly a response to the growing hunger of generative artificial intelligence companies who are hoovering up data, basically for free. Change is never easy, but i'm optimistic that this is the break open source and federated communities needed to start taking off. I hope people can see the value in decentralizing and help support these open source projects financially so that they can really start to scale. The reality is, scaling is expensive, and we all need to help where we can. These Ai companies will not hesitate to suck up federated data also. If we want to live in an ad free world its gonna cost us.

Twitter was great during the big earthquake we had in Japan, because phones weren't working. People sent out tweets for help and got help thanks to twitter.

After this, a lot of municipalites made accounts and now they post emergency info on twitter, but this just fucks everything up.

This is for reading‽‽ That is absolutely insane.

There are rumors that Twitter is having a dispute with its cloud providers, that is why they need to limit bandwidth.

At the risk of sounding tin-foily...

Twitter's financials for server costs have never made sense - the amount of money required to serve the sheer volume of engagement can't possibly have been resolved by ads that Elon is somehow refusing to keep tapping into.

I'd wager that some other interested party engaged in some type of private-public partnership was floating costs for (let's call it "privileged") access to the backend of Twitter -- granting a bottomless pit of funding to keep the platform running no matter the cost.

Once Twitter left the hands of someone deemed trustworthy, that life support doesn't stick around -- leaving Twitter facing complete insolvency by October of this year unless Musk literally does whatever he can to reduce engagement to save on costs.

Twitter loses more money when it has more engagement. If you have 100k users and add a new one, every interaction that additional user makes with tweets viewed by those 100k existing users requires 100k updates pushed to those 100k users' pages. Every like sends an update of +1 like on the tweet to every one of the 100k users. It becomes significantly more expensive per user engagement.

The ads being seen by additional users don't cover that constantly-compounding cost to keep engagements up to date across the platform. Musk isn't being honest about the reasoning (web scraping issues my ass) and is scrambling to buy desperately-needed to keep the platform up past October.

I think this goes to show just how impossible a business model like Twitter's was from the jump and shines a light on the absurdity of it being self-sustaining without a massive source of reliable external funding.

Edit: fixed typo

Hopefully this leads to Twitter not being the public square of the internet anymore at least mainstream wise. The man is doing everything to make the site worse.

This feels like the shit reddit pulled today

And twitter blue dumbasses eat it up. Legit one of them said “he created a problem, and now he’s created a solution”. No, he didn’t say that as a criticism. He was telling people to buy twitter blue.

All official local, national, global government and information/news services should immediately set up Mastodon/Lemmy instances, or at least accounts on established federated instances. It's the only way to insure stability. Musk and his Saudi/RW anti-democratic partners acquired twitter to kill it.

Well it worked for me, deactivated today. First RIF now twitter, what a day.

Lemmy, KBin and Mastodon fullfil all the needs for online news outside of dedicated news sites for me by now, Twitter is something I haven't used directly for months now.

I always held out hope that Musk was going to be the one to destroy Twitter. I’m still hoping that’s his ultimate goal.

To buy Twitter just to destroy that cesspool and Musk will always be the hero we needed

He'll probably get some total write-off when it fails and get $44B returned to him (from the tax payers, of course)

Twitter is like The Producers in that the owner seems like he's trying to destroy and also they've introduced nazis.

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I admire the pettiness to buy the platform that is bullying you then running it into the ground lmao

My pet theory...... Though I don't believe it.

Musk and u/spez are playing 4-dimensional chess. The end goal is to increase freedom and user choice. By slowly destroying their respective platforms, people are driven to the fediverse, the idea of centralised platforms is tainted, power is shifted back to the user and long term everyone is better off.

It is a nice thought experiment.....

He fired the worlds biggest experts on the technology at Twitter and thought he could do it better with a skeleton staff. Now the dead body rots. The skeleton is there. It smells musky, and the site has died.

I Got it!

This is real?

What's funny is that people who paid for this shit also get rate limited

The sad part is that all the Musk evangelists (and there are a lot of them) will happily pay for a 'verified' account if they happen to exceed the limit.

Bye Twitter ✌️

That just makes people want to use Twitter less, won't it? Unless there's some grand strategist-levels Masterplan behind this that I'm simply too stupid to fathom? I already use less of Twitter since he owned it, and I may even just cut it off now. It's such a shame too because it's one way for content creators to reach out to their community aside from Discord... I personally use Twitter a lot to notify people when I'm going live, etc. but with this change there might not even be a point anymore because I absolutely refuse to sign up for Twitter Blue.

I am a dull and simple lad, but I've held a belief ever since Musk purchased Twitter he did it to wreck the platform. I'm still undecided if he's just looking to liquidate its assets, or drive off reasonable users so he can turn it into his personal soapbox.

I tried to rate limit myself, but I never hit it. I don’t think the is so much a policy as an engineering fuckup (maybe some combo of losing the Google cloud compute and the limiting of viewing without being logged in)

This is an attempt of someone shortsighted trying to play the long run. If you think bots are the reason for this, you are wrong. Limits are carefully chosen so that they severely hinder non-paying users. Musk is neither good at solving issues nor is he good at planning things. This is his attempt to force more people to buy Twitter Blue.

If you are running a bot or 7, paying 8$ is nothing.

That's so dumb lol. Reading 600 tweets is like an hour of scrolling. What's the point in running a communication platform if people can't even get the message.

I'm sure that there are people that will pay $8/month for the Blue Accout to have unrestricted access to Twitter. Enough to see other social to do the same

I'm sure the advertisers are going to love that.

Looks like his S3 or whatever cloud db service he's using for Tw*tter's bill came up

He sure is an instable genius!

I don't know if I could do a worse job running Twitter if I tried

Let me get this straight… paying verified members have limits on how many tweets they can read

I'm quite shocked Elon would implement a policy that is counter to the purpose of twitter... As controversial as it is, doomscrolling is probably twitter's biggest busines

Incompetent Narcissism is the term I've used for Musk and others who think they are brilliant, but in reality just aren't. But, they have an insatiable desire to be seen as brilliant and the easiest way to do that is to have crazy ideas that, because they are crazy, others don't have. Sometimes those ideas pan out and they are seen as brilliant ... and that really resonates for them. Most of the time those crazy ideas absolutely fail ... they externalize the cause in those cases. The real damage comes when these Incompetent Narcissists have the money and/or power/influence to make it happen. Musk and Trump are prime examples of this.

This only makes sense when you understand that he’s intentionally trying to destroy Twitter.

I've never had an interest in twitter. Just not something I could see the point of myself. But it sure is popcorn inducing watching Musk speedrun it into the ground.

Quite curious with the timing of it all, it's like a period of change where most things turn to the worse for apparently no reason.

How to limit your ad revenue in one step

My completely unfounded and speculative pet theory is that when casual punters tried to read Reddit using their favourite 3rd Party app, and couldn’t, they went to use Twitter instead.

Since Twitter has been haemorrhaging regular users all year, and trying to cut costs, their diminished infrastructure couldn’t handle it, causing Elon to panic and release his policy change.

Musk never wanted to buy Twitter. So he's going to run it into the ground but never say it was his fault, Twitter just had an unsustainable business model.

BlueSky and Meta's Twitter clone will likely be what most people will migrate to. Haven't seen or heard as much about people going to Mastodon though.

He's just a nutjob. Sorry, but that's what it is. A prime example for "the typical CEO".

I don't get why anyone would still hype this guy.

Imagine paying 40billion dollars on a company to just sink it, and being like "oh well still rich lol"

Ah well. Very happy with Mastodon now.

first Reddit, now Twitter? What's next? Facebook? Tiktok? I hope it's both.

just don't look there. it's not worth your attention.

The more i read this the funnier it gets. Holy fuck twitter you really found a way to go even lower.

Let’s hope so. Perhaps something similar will rise?

Such a sad, bitter, incompetent manager.

It’s on fucking purpose?? I can’t even open Twitter because somehow I exceed the rate limit when I launch the app

Supposedly there is some bug that makes clients send out a ton of requests Some ppl say its because twitter requires to log in to show anything so the requests fail and retry https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639474671754723

I’m curious if Musk has the same rules for himself.

Musk tries to pull a "The producers" on Twitter, betting big that Twitter will go bankrupt and then it doesn't. In fact the (short term) gains look so good that reddit tries copying it. Musk is like: "I have to ruin this before the entire tech industry copies me!"

I love it. I want him to kill it. I despise the cesspool of hate that is twitter today. Cant wait for a twitter movie/docuseries "Where did we go wrong?". Same goes for Reddit

How fast can one really read 6000 post ? Assuming you read 100 post a minute, is that 1 hour of usage before getting cut off for the day? I dont really have a feeling how many posts a normal twitter user would go through in a minute.

The thing is he's not trying to do that because he actually thinks he's doing a good job.

I mean look on the bright side: he's encouraging Twitter users to touch grass

Assuming said data scraping is a real concern for both Twitter and Reddit, are Fediverse servers at similar risk from scrapers and various automated API hits? I don't really know enough about networks to answer.

Who cares, people will just eventualy switch to a better platform ( Mastodon )

Bye bye Twitter.

Yo for real, what's up with all these social media sites literally shooting themselves in the foot as we speak?.

Youtube planning to antagonize adblock users and limiting video watching, Reddit killing itself with bureocracy style and now Twitter doing this shit. Hopefully shit sites like TikTok or Facebook jump on the wagon too.

so his master plan is to attract all the rats onboard and sink the ship? ya okay

It's not cunning or malice. It's hubris and incompetence.

twitter seems to use aws - wont they be getting charged per request? I know i get hammered by bots that costs me a load of coin

Good fucking riddance.

Elon Musk don't make the worst decisions known to man challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (GONE WRONG)

What world is Elon living in that he thinks this is a good idea

Or at least that's what he'll claim as it comes crashing down around him

I thought the end goal is to no more Twitter. And I'm here for it.

Awwww so saaaaaaaaaaad. Sorry i can't feel anything about this lol

He’s doing gods work

"temporary"

Nothing that promotes Mastodon/Fediverse is infuriating.

It's been a really suspect timeline of Russia's invasion of Ukraine being met with global backing of Ukraine largely on Twitter, Musk's meeting with Putin, Musk's buyout of Twitter, and subsequent evisceration of the site.

Speaking as someone who never really plugged into Twitter much in the first place: the notion that tweets have any sort of real value and that putting caps on consuming them is a meaningful control measure is the funniest fucking thing. Like no doubt he I actually trying to ruin it, that's happening. But this is clearly supposed to elicit some kind of reaction, and I just can't imagine feeling like, "oh, no, this only 600?" 600 of what? Brainfarts? Serious ideas that, if they were written by serious people would be in a long form medium? It's like saying "you can go to the grocery store but you can only buy 60 chew toys for your dog per day". Like, okay, I wasn't going to do that anyway and I think it's funny that you thought I was going to, or that I'd care about this new limitation.

I think he's just that much of an attention whore, creating drama where it doesn't exist.

More like incredibly amusing.

Elon will probably change these numbers after he sees the bounce rate…. Problem is you can’t get around the bots scraping for information.

Elon Musk is my idol, as he is killing twitter rn

Sometimes the real DDOS are the companies we buy along the way

Mastodon for the win!

Speaking as someone who never really plugged into Twitter much in the first place: the notion that tweets have any sort of real value and that putting caps on consuming them is a meaningful control measure is the funniest fucking thing. Like no doubt he I actually trying to ruin it, that's happening. But this is clearly supposed to elicit some kind of reaction, and I just can't imagine feeling like, "oh, no, this only 600?" 600 of what? Brainfarts? Serious ideas that, if they were written by serious people would be in a long form medium? It's like saying "you can go to the grocery store but you can only buy 60 chew toys for your dog per day". Like, okay, I wasn't going to do that anyway and I think it's funny that you thought I was going to, or that I'd care about this new limitation.

And this is bad why?

Thanksfully I only read 20 or so tweets a day, so I am safe..

Looks like he’s changed his mind pffft what a derk

I keep hitting the limit by scrolling down. This is stupid.

Well good thing there are alternatives out there that are growing like Bluesky and Mastadon

Who would even read 300 a day?

Nevertheless, Twitter has fucking died. 😆

Needs more JPEG

What the hell, this is just stupid.

Is it possible to use our applicable data retrieval tools and host the data separately, so Elon can't hoard it all?

Have they never heard of using Cloudflare's free tier?

Let's put limits on how many things you can view at the same time as putting a sign up gate to see anything. How do you think your platform got any users to begin with? It's almost like he has no idea how anything he's making decisions on actually works but that would be an unfair assumption? /s

Wonder what mental gymnastics the fanboys/chuds are doing to spin this into “yes, Mr. Musk you are so smart, please piss on me next”?

The funny thing about Twitter for me is that I think I have a Twitter account and it's kind of like floating out there since 2010 or so. I never bothered with it. It was so tedious for me. I'm actually surprised about all this Twitter news now. I never actually could "get" Twitter as a social media platform. So, I don't know. I dislike the man. I can't remember my password. If it goes away I guess my internet security is better off.

Yeah, I first heard about that new policy yesterday. It's dumb

Anyone know the timeline for BLUESKY? ♥️

As a non Twitter user... reading 300/600 tweets a day seems like more than plenty. I mean the times I've poke around I see what maybe 60 or so tweets then move on to browsing another platform.

And me not knowing any better this somewhat seems to make sense if you have bots that are scraping all the data for intelligence to use for advertising or AI development etc.

Shouldn't those bots have to pay since they are making money off data and let the individual users keep a free account?

To be honest, I barely use Twitter anymore. Today I installed the patch to hide ADS too, just because.

Are paying members gonna get some sort of proration for the bullshit Musk sold them. This whole thing is beyond hilarious.

Why? Who reads over 6000 tweets a day?

After dropping third party support I only read more and more questionable decisions by Musk in the news.

I think he got this.

must get money to pay cloud service, man.

Twitter doesn't want to pay the Google Cloud bill lol

Juli 1

The limits are so low as well. Imagine paying for Twitter blue and getting rate limited still.

Didn't twitter just default on a massive google cloud bill on the first of July? This is pure speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me if the rate limiting is a direct consequence of them having to massively scale back infra because of getting kicked from Google cloud

F Musk & Twitter. They can both rot in hell.

Speaking as someone who never really plugged into Twitter much in the first place: the notion that tweets have any sort of real value and that putting caps on consuming them is a meaningful control measure is the funniest fucking thing. Like no doubt he I actually trying to ruin it, that's happening. But this is clearly supposed to elicit some kind of reaction, and I just can't imagine feeling like, "oh, no, this only 600?" 600 of what? Brainfarts? Serious ideas that, if they were written by serious people would be in a long form medium? It's like saying "you can go to the grocery store but you can only buy 60 chew toys for your dog per day". Like, okay, I wasn't going to do that anyway and I think it's funny that you thought I was going to, or that I'd care about this new limitation.

hello I'm from the future. Elon musk has fulfilled your prophecy.

I was late in adopting twitter and now find myself wondering if its even worth using at all...

what. the fuck.

Well, it certainly paves the way nicely for the BlueSky launch. People will be more than ready to leave in droves once that's available. This is the only way to guarantee mass adoption for what is essentially twitter 2.0? You gotta well and truly kill the old platform.

Seriously who needs to post 300 things in a day?

And it only cost $44 billion.

billionaires gonna bill

Until there is a viable Twitter competitor, this will continue and people will keep using it.

There needs to be one that scales. Mastodon had its chance and it's clear people don't want it. Maybe the answer is Bluesky, but that's not going to happen unless they open up their doors.

I can't believe I'm rooting for Meta, but their Threads app might work out and it will be better once it syncs with ActivityPub.

Admittedly I've kept out of the loop on this whole Musk Twitter fiasco. Could anyone ELI5 why Musk is trying to tank Twitter?

Sounds like the same thing Spez was discussing as the “reason” for the changes

That's backwards. Not wasting your limited time on this planet on a social media site should be the premium feature. I mean, you could do it for free too but almost nobody does.

Man, no one is trying to run anything into the ground. They are just probing to see how far they can stretch their userbases. And, personally, I think they can go as far as they want. Social media has become an addiction for people and they will justify anything and everything to get their fix .

EDIT: What I mean is that people will accept everything and still continue to use the platforms because they are ingrained into their daily lives. Do you disagree? Need I remind you how vehemently some people defended Reddit's decisions recently?

The app seems to be rate limiting but via a web browser i’m not having any issues.

Fascists see a community threatening their power, they send in the oligarchs to destroy it. This was always the plan. Same with Reddit. Fediverse is where it's at. We all saw how the attempted Freenode coup went. That garbage human wasn't fooling anyone for even a second. Dude never had a chance.

There will always be people using that dumpster fire

What exactly is he trying to fix? I am losing the point.

I hope it goes up in flames.

Good.

Honestly I think theyre working on a huge upgrade. Think an all in one website where you chat, browse ,buy ,etc...
Its the way they do it in asia

Who is reading more than 300 tweets a day?

That would be the most incredible thing if Elon’s plan was just to destroy Twitter from the inside. Pipe dream I know.

Undeniable?

I deny this.

He's trying to make something new

He's impulsive and doesn't know when to shut up. I got the distinct impression that, initially, he was absolutely not serious about buying Twitter. It was a joke/jest. BUT, because his antics affected their stock price he actually got forced into the purchase and now he's desperately trying to figure out how to make the purchase worth what he actually paid, which is fine and all, except he seems to be leading by impulse, not by consensus or logic. He wakes up in the morning, has some random ass idea and implements it without any oversight. Even his new CEO straight up admitted that she is basically a straw man CEO who will offer no friction to anything Elon wants to do.

Speaking as someone who never really plugged into Twitter much in the first place: the notion that tweets have any sort of real value and that putting caps on consuming them is a meaningful control measure is the funniest fucking thing. Like no doubt he I actually trying to ruin it, that's happening. But this is clearly supposed to elicit some kind of reaction, and I just can't imagine feeling like, "oh, no, this only 600?" 600 of what? Brainfarts? Serious ideas that, if they were written by serious people would be in a long form medium? It's like saying "you can go to the grocery store but you can only buy 60 chew toys for your dog per day". Like, okay, I wasn't going to do that anyway and I think it's funny that you thought I was going to, or that I'd care about this new limitation.

That would be the most incredible thing if Elon’s plan was just to destroy Twitter from the inside. Pipe dream I know.

That would be the most incredible thing if Elon’s plan was just to destroy Twitter from the inside. Pipe dream I know.

I only use twitter to share gameplays and screenshots from my PS4 :) I don't care what elon decides to do.

If Musk destroys Twitter, I will hang his portrait right next to Papa Stalin's in my room. Twitter delenda est.

Can someone explain to me how this is a bad thing? Honestly asking. To me, it just seems like a decent way to reduce bot activity.

Update: Ok, good points.

I still believe Musk is trying to make a better place, yes he is making mistakes but inevitably Twitter will become a better place. For reddit however I kind of don't know. It's another thing kiling 3rd apps was actually inevitable. After all like Spez said the apps were printing money for their devs. The best solution was to talk with the Devs and come up with a suitable solution aka price of api

Elon bad!

• Omg
• This is fake
• This is fake
• This can't be real
• This is some onion-level stuff
• Fuck- this is some Reddit level stuff
• No
• Fake
• Can't be real
• AUGGHHHH

I'm glad I don't use Twitter and I'm moving away from Reddit now.

Omg This is fake This is fake This can't be real This is some onion-level stuff Fuck- this is some Reddit level stuff No Fake Can't be real AUGGHHHH

I'm glad I don't use Twitter and I'm moving away from Reddit now.

Omg This is fake This is fake This can't be real This is some onion-level stuff Fuck- this is some Reddit level stuff No Fake Can't be real AUGGHHHH

I'm glad I don't use Twitter and I'm moving away from Reddit now.

I believe he is doing a great job. If you can do better buy your own company. Also he is running several other companies.

• Omg
• This is fake
• This is fake
• This can't be real
• This is some onion-level stuff
• Fuck- this is some Reddit level stuff
• No
• Fake
• Can't be real
• AUGGHHHH

I'm glad I don't use Twitter and I'm moving away from Reddit now.