If you're a web dev, and you implement this, just know you won't receive my web traffic. Ill go live with the other robots and we will start our own internet with blackjack and hookers.

That means if Google’s verification system gets widely adopted, browsing the web could become a headache.

Using a phone to scan a QR code in order to access a website on my desktop is a headache even if it has no dependencies in particular.

Ignoring the de-Googled phones for a sec: I assume if you're using a desktop, then the QR shows up and you have to drag out your phone to scan it in the camera app that then prompts to open the google play store. Dumb, but possible for people who have a phone with Android. What about those that don't? Would you need a google account?

Now if it's all on phone (using Chrome or Firefox or whatever) and pops up a QR code, you can't scan it... but the browser would have to open the play store directly and thats a huge security no-no. The browser shouldn't even know I have the Play Store.

I have a feeling the hundreds of us that are de-Googled ad just going to stop using these sites all together.

This is awesome news for scammers:

1. Fake page will say "you need to scan this qr code to verify you're human"
2. Users normally dismisses this shit, but it has become normal nowadays, take out the phone to scan it
3. Qr code opens a page on totallynotascam.com that say "you need to install this totally safe APK on your device for verification 😉"
4. APK passes the new useless developer "verification" as the scammer either used a hacked dev account or just paid $25 with a stolen id + stolen credit card
5. User see the message "APK verified by Google play protect" and would totally believe the bullshit, giving all the possible permissions to the app

Once this is implemented, Google will have finally succeeded in closing the entire fucking internet. That is, assuming this will become anywhere successful and smaller websites will be using it as well.

Wtf

A lot of Android bot devices simulate (or even ARE) a full phone with a legit Play Store and other Google services.

This requirement is enforced vendor lock in. Nothing more.

Wait wait wait. To prove you’re human you have to read something designed for computers to read?

I won't install an app to access a fucking website.

And any service that uses it can fuck off.

"Google's next-gen reCAPTCHA system could spell trouble for any website that implements it as no de-Googled phone user will care to use it"

Would this pass in EU? Seems anti competition. Do we need another movement like stop chat control to mobilize people?

Then I'll just not use the services that use it, very stupid, as this shouldn't be necessary

It turns out reCAPCHA has been a privacy nightmare from the beginning: from silently monitoring user activity in the background, to sending payment information to Google; in order for an AI to assess the data, and return a risk-score to the website. But that apparently wasn't bold enough, and now an effective 2FA is required, which provides additional telemetry to Google (but not to the website or app: which is obviously the privacy concern). So get ready to 2FA with Google upon registration, login, updating your cart, and payment; or to skip the hassle, you should just let an approved "shopping assistant" make purchases for you ("that drive a projected 25% increase in average order value"). I don't even own a modern Android or iOS device, so how am I supposed to solve these?

This is evil. Fuck it. I want nothing to do with these cunts anymore. I'm degoogling this year.

Monopoly, anybody?

Naaaahhh, this is just good old fashioned American freedoms

There is a fucking huge market for non Google non iPhone come on somebody get the fuck on it

This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human.

How is this going to work if you're browsing the internet on your phone??

It SHOULD spell bad news for the people that use this verification method because it just means they lose those customers.

I was wondering how they would screw the new Motorola phones coming out since they couldn't do the whole "factory operating system has been tampered with" mode of whining and being little bitches.

Glad to see their engineers came up with another way to fuck us! Thanks google!

Time to degoogle for good, then.

So more Linux phones?

We need to move away from Google. Just make them obselete.

I would never scan a qr code to verify that I'm not a bot. I'd simply close the page

Uhhhh. What if I'm not using a Google device? Is just the entire internet going to be gated behind Android?

Then I will de-whatever else uses their shit

At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human.

What is that supposed to mean? What QR code? Just any? I'm supposed to find some QR code laying around and scan it? Or will the webpage display a QR and I'm supposed to scan it with my phone using a mirror or something?

Surely this would be nearly impossible for visually impaired people, which makes me question the ability for governments to implement this on their websites.

I know about screen reader software for visual impairment, but to expect a blind person use a separate device with a camera to take a “photo” of a QR code on another screen is beyond comprehension. Well, at least it would be in the normal timeline.

I guess I’ll have to switch to a dumb phone out of spite now.

I've scanned 4 QR codes in my life. 2 were not what I was told they would be.

I will never scan a QR code again.

Verify by qr = insta hacked

cool. guess I won't be using any of the things that use it.

🤷 oh well.

This requirement will kick in the moment the system suspects suspicious activity. At that point, reCAPTCHA will forgo the old image puzzles and require you to scan a QR code with your smartphone to prove you’re human. Although this will stop an autonomous bot in its tracks, it also adds another step to verification. But the problem runs a little deeper than the annoyance of a single additional step.

I didn't see what the spec of this new recaptcha is but my first thought is an android emulator and a free google account combined with whatever bot/LLM wants to pass through is probably going to be what happens.

Fuck that. One of the biggest offenders of web scraping and bot traffic wants to force us all to install their spyware just to verify that we're human when there have already been much simpler ways to do this without that bullshit captcha for years...

Embrace

Extend

Extinguish <- Google is here with Android as an open platform

Fucking assholes

Yeah, don't use Google. We will dwell in an alternative Web and soon it really will be illegal...

I think I will just install Ubuntu Touch on my phones in a few months. Feels like it's just time to abandon ship.

A push to undermine our freedom of choice of ROMs, services, and providers.

What about the ~40% of Americans with an iPhone??

I wonder if GrapheneOS's sandboxed google play services will work?

Will forcing a page to desktop mode do anything?

if legit users fail Google’s captcha, then site owners will stop using Google for captcha

What stops a bot to just run an android emulator to scan any prompted qr?

This would only track if we read the small letter of the proposal. That this only work on android devices which have verified identify signed within their account. Meaning that android would require id verification, aka upload your id to google.

So wait a moment. How can the browser even check if play services are installed? And scanning a QR code is just accessing the camera, what does that have to do with Play Services?

There's already the app published and it has already blatantly fake reviews

Gonna have to switch to Tor browsing completely then.

How likely is this to affect Linux phones?

Honestly. It's terrible, but i might actually have to give Apple money for my next phone.

I'm just done with Android at this point.

We had a good run, but it's over.

So now Chinese who managed to bypass the firewall cannot access western sites behind Google's new Captcha-wall?

Wow, great job, Google. 🙄

(I mean unless they managed to import a Googled-phone into China too)

Whatever this is for, guess I'm not going to use it anymore.

Google has every incentive to break reCAPTCHA competitors and/or use botnets to spam anything not protected by reCAPTCHA.

LOL, just as I started using an /e/os phone

So, is this the replacement for WEI by what some of the comments here are suggesting?

I was thinking if it would be possible to to patch the version number to years in the future to try and stop the dodgy update.

No clue if such a thing would work just idle thoughts really.

Of course, what else is new 🫩

Who is still scanning QR codes? I thought after the nambla stuff people loss interest in scanning a weblink.

Captcha in general are annoying to customers there is no point having them today too be fair. I would consider bot visits these days as potential costumers seeing how they can buy stuff online now. If your blocking your sites because your afraid they are scraping and using it for training. Then you are just blocking the small timers likely those people who wants to democratized AI like Deepseek. While the biggest culprit like Google's web crawlers have free rain to train on your data. Those who are determined will would just pass that to captcha farm.