I thought that name was already taken by the chasm in between his ears.

"Gulf of this will bring down the price of eggs"

I know it's not deliberate, but phrases like 'spineless pussies' are why women don't feel welcome on lemmy.

Is lemmy truly a left-leaning platform? Or is it yet another tech-bro circlejerk that cares more about the aesthetics of inclusivity? You all can't have your cake and it eat it too.

Hijacking this to plug contributing to OSM. Improving your local area is very rewarding and can pair well with some youtube binging. Take a look at your city and see if there are things you're interested in working on.

I love the app MagicEarth for turn by turn navigation GPS. It uses OSM!

Ios: https://apps.apple.com/app/id1007331679 https://apps.apple.com/app/id934850257

Also fun fact the official apple maps app is mostly based on OSM.

OpenStreetMap also needs to deal with this kind of thing. In this case, several people already tried to add it to the map in some form of other, but generally not as something to actually be shown. There is a looong discussion about it here https://community.openstreetmap.org/... . General opinion is that it is (or will be) "the official name that the US says it has". In OSM you can invent tags for anything, so an object can have many names. Done like this, anyone using the data can still choose to give precedence to any "official US names that are not in common use yet". Later it may be upgraded ased on if it becomes a common alternative name, just in the US, or maybe beyond. All those options can have their own special tag. And only very motivated data users will ever show it to map users. But if you do a search for Gulf of America, you will be able to find it.

is there anything android auto compatible?

Give it negative reviews

Why? Google does this everywhere because naming is completely arbitrary and it makes sense to be up to date with current nomenclature. Poland changed name of Kaliningrad (Russian exclave that we border) to Królewiec (what it was called when it was part of Poland) in a similar manner to troll Russians and Google updated our maps as well. Apple didn’t in either case so you have options.

The rest of the world obviously will not follow suit, but foreign companies selling maps in the US will have to comply, so it is just another exception that need to be handled. Naming and boundary disputes between countries have existed for years, and map makers just make enough versions to satisfy every country.

They all bend the knee. Just wait until the persecution of political opposition becomes a thing.

California should just change Gulf of California to Gulf of Mexico

Ultimate pettiness, show of power, or misdirection from other, more concerning news.
Could be all at of those or something entirely different, but it sure is pathetic.

It's misdirection and makes any laws or regulations specifically mentioning the Gulf of Mexico no longer apply since "tHeRe iSnT a gULf oF mExIcO."

incapable of actually fixing

Or making them worse. He just upped taxes on the lower classes and gave the rich tax breaks... again.

politicians are incapable of actually fixing any of our problems.

They're not incapable, they just don't care. They're your problems after all, not theirs.

Politicians are more than capable of solving our problems. They’re paid not to.

There's little point in doing so, other than the feel-good moment. Google, and all other mapping companies, ultimately take their data from official sources. This differs per country, so users of maps from outside of the US will continue to see Gulf of Mexico, but complaining that it is wrong will only be ignored because they're following the data from the official US government source.

They never fix bugs in maps. Some places IRL even got renamed, because it was easier than fixing the name in google maps.

Same problem in toronto.... We have a building called the SkyDome, but everyone misspells it Robbers Center....

And what about taking a nice drive down Jean Baptiste Pointe du Sable Lake Shore Drive?

Huh, I didn't know the Sears Tower was renamed to Willis. Though the Sears Tower never comes up in conversations for me, I'll surely only ever know it as Sears. So yeah, that's a great point you make

Oh so it'll become a shibboleth like how the capital of Ohio is pronounced and spelled "central ohio" if you're at the rare intersection of cool and ohioan

I support this.

But we should probably at least have a conversation with Mexico about it, since something like half of their country borders it. IDK, I failed geography.

"Don't be evil"

What about we be evil anyway?

Sadly though this was never going to be avoided, sure they're leaning hard into conservative cult nonsense, but they were still on a downword optics trajectory. Its impossible not to have this happen in capitalism, it will always be inevitable that enshitifcation happens to milk profit from anywhere it can, and that will always look bad.

Wildly, people still think that about working at Apple, for now. I do see that changing slowly too though.

Open Street Maps needs more contributors!

Been playing the StreetComplete game, which is very much Pokemon Go but helping OSM data.

If this was a different admin, it was an international agreement and the name change was to refer to the continent, I'd be on board. As it stands, this looks like the sort of BS power play the CCP does with the South China Sea.

Most of them can't even place their own damn country on a map.

I disagree on the Pluto stance because it being classified as a dwarf planet makes sense for various reasons and isn’t about the ego of a racist megalomaniac.

If you want Pluto to be a planet, have the definition of "planet" changed so that Pluto would fall within that definition.

Only hot and or under aged immigrants are acceptable. Specially if they have big natural boobs because that means new Americans with big natural boobs. I think penis-wise probably they might consider 8" and longer but must be very girthy. What do I know, I'm not a rapist politician. I could be totally wrong.

One of my favorite lines from early on in trumps rise to cult leader was "Conservatives would let Trump shit in their mouth just to watch liberals become disgusted"

The gulf of mexico vs gulf of america thread on the Open Street Map forum is interesting and worth a read.

https://community.openstreetmap.org/...

Yes. The United States Board on Geographic Names is the group within the Department of the Interior which handles these matters. They are a part of the executive branch. I suspect that you can follow a chain of delegated authorities through that board, up the civil service hierarchy, landing on the desk of the President.

This is an example of the system not accounting for, or being ambivalent about, the election of someone to that office with a fascist ideology.

I'm sitting on moving off proton, hell I still have 80% of my stuff on Gmail too

What are going to use for email now?

Given Colbert took the absurdity of conservatism in the US and cranked it up to 11... I'm not surprised it's becoming reality now.

That's an interesting theory, we may just test that out.

But I suspect that ten years from now, it's name will be whatever it's been saying on the maps. Just ask New Yorkers (sorry, I mean new Amsterdamers).

They’ll regex those bug reports so fast it won’t even matter.

Trump would be okay with that because it's still a fuck you to the left coast.

Someone was saying they want to rename it to work around the laws preventing drilling in the Gulf. It sounds really stupid, but that is on par for this shit show of an administration.

They're on this stupid renaming kick. Renaming all the "woke" names back to the "original" white slavers and racists these places originally honored. There are few enough brain cells and energy in government and this is what Trump is making them waste it on. Gulf of THE AmericaS would make sense but obviously the intent is to claim it as the US's.

I'm trying to work out who this is for. Presumably his fan club will approve, but I don't think it was something that even they were particularly asking for.

You misunderstand, that’s exactly the point. Giving you something to talk about, while rights are eroded elsewhere.

Except they’re waiting on bended knees aren’t they? They’ve show who their daddy is by announcing it.

Google made an issue of this by officially commenting rather than silently conducting business as usual (which would be changing the name when the govt source does).

They're trying to have their cake and eat it, I guess? Theoretically this would appease X viewers and Trump (who would move onto the next trending controversy), while stating that they are following usual procedure?

This is a good reminder and sanity check. Things this big are rarely easy to change.

Yeah, I'm with you.

This timeline took a serious nosedive somewhere around 2010. I'm no longer sure think we're pulling out of it...

Anytime I hear someone complain about cancel culture I bring up freedom fries.

HK and Tibet are part of China in all maps. Did you mean Taiwan?

I don't think it's gonna work as well because people could afford to eat Big Macs everyday back then. No joke, the economic situation is so dire I'm saving up to treat myself and my boyfriend to a fancy dinner date....

The dinner is at fucking Waffle House

It’s not the same. Google is a US company.

It makes sense that it would use the GNIS, a system of the USGS, to put names on places.

It hasn’t changed here yet, but I figure when it does, Google will reflect the change.

https://www.usgs.gov/...

They did (in Russia). There's no hypocrisy here. Just blanket compliance with local authority.

The maps look different when viewed in different regions, this becomes apparent whenever there's contested territory, like crimea, the China sea, Gaza. We only see the maps that our local government approves.

The United States of Northern Mexico?

Google added that the name Gulf of Mexico will remain displayed for users in Mexico. Users in other countries will see both names, the company said.

Yeah. "Both Names" for other countries is a bit lame but better than just Gulf of America everywhere.

The Denali / McKinley thing is pretty awful though. I hadn't realised Trump had changed that too.

why would that be Google's concern

There is absolutely nothing that is too stupid for republicans.

If the US had an actually functional political system they wouldn't get anywhere near power. They're all crazy and they don't care about anything that actually matters to people. But because there's only two parties they just go "biden bad" and everyone votes for them.

That doesn't make much sense, since Baja California was named California before the US-State which even belonged to Mexico back in the days.

If anything Trump is going to change California to Ivankia or Putinstan, but I guess at that point California will rather rejoin Mexico.

They never wasted any time thinking about that, I fear

Google, or rather Alphabet, is an American company. Trump is the president of America, the most powerful country militarily and economically. Alphabet is also subject to American laws and is currently under an anti-trust lawsuit with America. What makes you think Google can stand up against the US?

Fearful, or in agreement with?

Google owns Waze

You know Google owns Waze right?

It'll warn you but not redirect you.

Continuing to call it the gulf of mexico will piss him off more

I'm ready to call the United States North Mexico or the Unincorporated British Colony of the Indies

True. This is how it is with [Arabian|Persian] Gulf.

Because the president should have no say in naming geographic locations that have long agreed upon names. And it’s a waste of money to have to replace all the maps and books with updated names.

There’s also no reason for Google to change anything. The US government has no power to make Google use this new name instead of the widely agreed upon name.

It’s a nod to the fact that if Trump says jump google will say “how high?” And no one with any sense likes that bigot.

Because it's a corporation bending over to the whims of a government trying to erase the name of a geographic place.

Geolocation is done by IP address if nothing else is available. It's not exact, but if, for example, you use a US-based internet provider, all their customer IP exit points will already be marked as US-based, and any access from one of those to a Google service will get the new name.

Technically correct

yeah, America was a continent long before US was a thing. Which makes the "MAGA" slogan hilarious, as if he's governing for the other countries in America too.

Yes but thry changed their own name, not the name of some other bit of the world that isn't anything to do with them.

Middle English usage of Turkye or Turkeye is found in The Book of the Duchess (written in 1369–1372) to refer to Anatolia or the Ottoman Empire.[45] The modern spelling Turkey dates back to at least 1719.[46] The bird called turkey was named as such due to trade of guineafowl from Turkey to England.[36] The name Turkey has been used in international treaties referring to the Ottoman Empire.[47] With the Treaty of Alexandropol, the name Türkiye entered international documents for the first time. In the treaty signed with Afghanistan in 1921, the expression Devlet-i Âliyye-i Türkiyye ("Sublime Turkish State") was used, likened to the Ottoman Empire's name.

Türkiye had historical usage and precedent; “the Gulf of America” does not. Admittedly, Erdoğan was probably motivated by the same base nativist urges. But there’s something substantially different in saying “we want our nation to be called this” versus “we want to rename international territory.”

One is propaganda made up by right wing nerds and one is the president of fucking america if you didnt catch how silly you were being right now

Nobody calls it that though. No one who is actually left-wing thought that calling them blacklist / white list was offensive.

We?