Hegseth declares, 'I only speak American' to room full of foreign leaders
7 months ago by fossilesque to c/nottheonion
the worsest
...I think they're quoting 'the fifth Element' up there.
And nazi, he speaks nazi too. That sieg heil in the photo didn't happen by coincidence.
It's an accurate snapshot of the American executive branch right now... the moron MAGA President asleep at the wheel, the moron MAGA underlings putting on full display their idiotic rendition of fascism.
Whilst spending untold billions on military gear for ice to violate our constitutional rights.
Yeah, Putin's favorite circus trope.
When he starts getting in his feelings about not being able to take over Ukraine I bet how bad he's managed to fuck up our government is salve for his wounds.
their idiotic rendition of fascism
All renditions of fascism are idiotic.
Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla tres idiomas? Trilingüe.
Sabes cómo se llama uno que habla dos? Bilingüe.
Sabes como se llama uno que habla un sólo idioma? Americano. Se llama americano.
This fucking moron made himself the punchline of the joke that we invented to mock those like him.
Then I cried some more.
Why is there a ü in the answers?
Edit: Thanks for explaining everyone. I have no idea how I missed that my whole life. I had no idea. It could be because I'm in Western Hemisphere but not sure.
English does the same with most vowels, it's called diaeresis though the only place I commonly see it is in the New Yorker (funnily enough googling what it is called led me to a New Yorker article about it.
I mean at this point it seems that English doesn't do this, but maybe at one point it saw limited use.
Except "naïve", that still happens. But English is nothing if not wildly inconsistent.
It distinguishes the consonantal u from the vowel u.
@bdonvr@thelemmy.club explained it very well in their comment. To add, in Spanish, the letter "g" when followed by either an "i" or an "e" will be pronounced in three different ways depending on whether you add an "u" in between, and if that "u" has a diaeresis on it. If you add the dieresis, it means you have to pronounce the "u". Think of "pingüino" (penguin in english). In order to say the "u" in the word, we add the diaeresis that says the reader that they have to say the "u". In Spanish, "guillotina", "pingüino" and "ginebra" you will read the sillabe with a "g" and an "i" differently on each of those words.
Spanish has tons of grammar rules. It's hard to learn them all, but when you do, it makes extremely easy to know how to say a word when you read it. Even where to put the accent (even if there is no tilde in the word).
Spanish orthography (which is not really grammar) is still very simple and logical compared to the mess we have in English, where spelling was largely frozen before the Great Vowel Shift happened. It was a perfectly decent West Germanic language until Norman French forced itself onto Anglo-Saxon and left us with a weird mish-mash of Germanic and Romance features.
Because that changes how it is pronounced
Let's say- Penguin
In spanish it is Pingüino
"Pingüino" is pronounced "pinguino" ("gui" just like in english)
While "pinguino" would be something like "pingeeno"
And without the diaresis, the silent u is there because gi on its own would have a soft g like English "gee" rather than a hard g like "ghee."
That's an easy to understand answer. I got it now! ;)
Shitgeth = puta merda.
I wonder what his mom thinks of him turning into such a huge douchey asshole.
Is she surprised, or did she see it coming? Maybe he's always been so. He's the kid who made new rules for games and cried when the other kids wouldn't follow his rules.
“You are an abuser of women – that is the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego,” Penelope Hegseth wrote in the email obtained by the New York Times.
“You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth,” she added, advising her son to “get some help and take an honest look at yourself”.
Hegseth's father was a basketball coach for high schools across Minnesota before retiring in 2019; his mother is an executive business coach who has taught with the Minnesota Excellence in Public Service (MEPS) Series, a fellowship and leadership program for Republican and center-right women.
She'd probably say "You've always been a disappointment to this family. You should've gone to war with Iran last year."
“Boromir would have invaded Iran and Iraq”
Boromir would have called it a war
Depends on whether she's opining privately or publicly.
Privately she's said some pretty awful things about him that are absolutely deserved. But in public, she recanted and lined up behind him, which is really disappointing. She could have been helpful to stopping his appointment but now she's party not only to murders happening globally, but the deaths of American reservists who shouldn't be at war in the first place.
turning into 🫠
his own command when he was in the nat guard deemed him a security threat, that should tell you a red flag.
Or use big words when we don't want them to understand.
Not sure if this is common knowledge among English speaking countries, but we in non English speaking countries use English when we don't want our small kids to understand what we're saying. 🫣
I think we'll be able to tell when they do. Guess that's a good time to start learning sign language lol.
Joking aside, I've come to understand that speaking a language in front of your kids that they can't understand isn't really a nice thing to do. Makes them feel excluded, and isn't really cool to do to an adult so shouldn't be cool to do to a child either.
Better to talk openly or just wait until you're alone. 👍 For all the parents out there.
Honestly, the way they’re speaking. I’m fine with them calling it “american”.
I'm not a native English speaker, but I've always been confused by breaking up sentences like this. My understanding is that if one sentence doesn't make senses on its own, it shouldn't be standalone, but rather an introductory to the other one.
looks like a punctuation error to me. I would have written it this way:
Honestly—the way they’re speaking—I’m fine with them calling it ‘“american.”
You could separate the interjection with commas or parentheses too. the em dashes give some extra emphasis, while commas make it blend in a bit better.
It's not really simplified. Hegseth's English, like Hegseth, is simple-minded, which is a different thing.
He just wants to appeal to the collection of people who do like that sort of thing being said.
I remember an incident a bit back where the White House Press Secretary said "your mom" to a journalist's question, followed up by Trump's communications director saying the same thing. Those are not people who are going to let that idly slip, much less at the same time --- their full-time job is using speech to politically influence people.
https://www.independent.co.uk/...
Trump announced Thursday that he will soon meet with Putin in Budapest, Hungary, to discuss an end to the war in Ukraine. The choice has raised questions, because Putin is wanted by the International Criminal Court. However, Hungary appears unlikely to cooperate with the warrant and is in the process of leaving the court, the Associated Press reports.
When HuffPost asked the White House who chose the location for the meeting, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt replied, “Your mom did.” White House Communications Director Steven Cheung also followed up with, “Your mom,” the outlet reports.
Governed by high schoolers.
I mean, it's politicking.
There is a segment of the population that considers Trump to sound authentic, not pretentious, academic, or egg-heady. He sounds like the people they talk to.
What I'm less concerned about is Trump in particular doing it and more about it becoming the new norm. If politicians decide that it works, the world might see a lot more insults, dishonesty, and such.
My hope was "Trump leaves office, this gets toned down". But...it might not. And it might spread to other places, if they find that it works in the US.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...
Democrats try a new tone: Less scripted, more cursing, Trumpier insults
Party leaders are swearing more, recording more direct-to-camera videos and trying to project an authenticity many voters have come to associate with Trump.
There are gentler forms of this. For example, I remember an interview with a senior British translator (this was pre-Brexit) working at the European Commission who said that they'd made a conscious decision not to codify an "EU English", because they were concerned about the political impact of European Union politicians sounding different from the public --- more distant, elite. "Sound like the people who you want votes from" isn't new. But...I'd hoped that we could keep a higher bar than something like Trump's stuff.
But, well, we live in a new era in terms of media, where social media is how a lot of people communicate. It's gonna have effects. Fifty years from now, I suppose we'll see what norms have been established.
He sounds like the people they talk to.
That many people are working in dementia wards?
If politicians decide that it works, the world might see a lot more insults, dishonesty, and such.
Republicans have been competing in emulating Trump since 2017.
When HuffPost asked the White House who chose the location for the meeting, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt replied, “Your mom did.”
I'm torn by this. On one hand she's despicable, on the other hand such a well delivered, completely unexpected "your mom" really gets me.
They go so far to avoid the dreaded, "I don't know."
Colbert was the funniest conservative comedian but I stopped liking him after he switched parties.
I’m not sure if this is a joke or if you actually think he was a conservative on the Colbert show
Edit: oh wait it’s you, you got me
This user is well known as a lighthearted troll, but I have heard others say this unironically IRL.
No, entire demographics were and are that dumb.
That is why we are in this creek in this canoe, with no paddle.
We have the dumbest leaders ever," one person commented. "What a weird thing to be proud of," a second person added"
this is some concise journalism. they didnt bother to even note if the people they were quoting were posting on twitter or a facebook thread in any way. just said "some dude said this".
the irish star is a dirt rag tabloid, this isnt a source worth posting. surely other platforms are reporting on this
Those leaders are far right bootlickers.
Including the president elect of Chile (oh god please nonono... bah he doesn't have the congress.)
"Don't worry: We will make sure to use only small words for you"
I'm not a very fluent speaker of asshole, but I'll try. I think this little man said that his severe lack of
- education
- basic decency
did not allow him to
- speak any other language than the one he was born with
- know that this language is called "English", and an "American" language does not exist
- realise this was a flaw rather than a badge of honour proudly to be worn in a diplomatic context.
Slight disagreement on there not being an american language. We actually have a bunch of native languages, one of which was used to help code communications during WWII.
You're the best kind of correct - technically correct.
And yet, if you happened to be a speaker of Navajo, Sioux or Algonquin, you'd say just that. You wouldn't say "I speak American", just like a speaker of Flemish, Albanian or Finnish would not say "I speak (Indo-)European". It's a description of the geographic origin or the broader language family, but not a category useful to indicate any specific language like Drunk Pete is trying to do here.
I spoke language once.
Add a cactus in each of their asses and we might be getting somewhere
Urethral meatus cactus
A cholla would be better.
People forget he was a fox news host. Ain't no learnin been done here
and Celtic, Greek, Dutch, Turkish, various Indian/South Asian languages and Arabic.
Not to mention the "French" and "German" you mention were actually Saxon and Norman which became those languages.
aryan, bugger, coffee, doodle, horde, kiosk, lackey, mammoth, ottoman, pillar, quiver, sofa, turquoise, yogurt.
I was curious, as well, and discovered we weren't the first.
Turkish origin words (baklava is common).
Here's a list of lists for various Indian languages (guru is common).
and Celtic, Greek, Dutch, Turkish, various Indian/South Asian languages and Arabic.
Yeah, but those are all small-volume loan words. And some of the Turkish ones listed were pass-throughs of Arabic or Persian words.
Not to mention the “French” and “German” you mention were actually Saxon and Norman which became those languages.
There was also a bit of a Norse influence on early English, both lexicon and grammar. And there's some evidence of a few Celtic grammatical constructs having been picked up in early English too, such as the "Do" in "Do you still beat your wife?" which has no Germanic or Romance parallels.
English is the most duct-taped together language,
I'm sorry, but if you truly believe that, then you must have a very limited knowledge of the languages of the world. English is not very unusual in this regard.
My personal favourite, which goes much, much further in the duct taping department by taking essentially the entire grammar from one language and a majority of the vocabulary from another, together with uncountable other influences, would be Maltese.
But there are many others, not least all the world's creole languages.
And Viking/Danish. And Celtic.
Viking/Danish
Norse. And it's more similar to modern Icelandic than anything else, perhaps most closely followed by (distant second place) Norwegian.
Or all of the "loaner" words
The term "America" was coined for south america.
The english then called the northern continent "North America" because they were lazy.
The words in English of Latin origin, except for some technical terms from when Latin was the academic lingua franca, came in via Norman French. And there are no Latin-derived grammatical features in English that didn't pass through Norman French.
a majority still oppose war with Iran and… you know… raping children
Yeah, I see, that's why that majority stopped a pedophile president from having the control of the country, or stopped his clique of rarely sober religious nationalists from starting said war.
lmao you're living in a fantasy if you think Americans have the capability to stop the government through instant, direct action
The only power we have is withholding our labor, and convincing people of the necessity of that when they're brainwashed by capitalism is not an overnight or even over-4-years affair
Hadn't said you need to necessarily do it instantly and directly, you invented it yourself just so you have something to be snippy about. Deliberate work over time is also good.
Doesn't matter though, you're not doing either. Or you're so ineffective it's indistinguishable from not doing anything.
I’m sorry, I don’t agree with you. I’m from California and we are sitting over here just as aghast as any European nation you could name and larger than some.
We sent 54 electoral votes for Harris to Washington. You want to show me a European nation that did more than that to stop Trump?
I understand Americans as a whole have a responsibility. But this guy was trying to make a specific play-by-play call about how Americans are reacting to this back home and I see no logic in sitting quietly and agreeing with that.
What a bell end
imagine him thinking he has to speak LATIN in latin america. hes a mean drunk.
They speak Mexican!
This is a nationalistic move. To remove the washington regime away from other english speaking countries and brand itself as something larger. It makes the washington regime seem entitled to landgrabs. It makes washingtonlings feel superior to other english speakers.
It is as stupid as nationalism is stupid, but nationalism is great for ruling people.
That's so many languages!!
It's actually down to two reasons. Firstly California is probably the first part of North America to see continuous permanent settlement by humans, possibly including Non-Sapien genus Homo but that's still up for debate. Mostly because everything further north was a frozen shithole on par with Svalbard.
Secondly the various tribes of the West and especially in California were able to actually recover somewhat from the wave of plague the Spannish unleashed. Mostly because between the Sonora, Mojave, and Great Basin it meant that it took centuries for Europeans to get into California. Though the Russians may have been fucking around Oregon if a rather well traveled Native American from out east is to be believed. Sorry I can't remember the dudes name or his tribe I think he was from Arkansas.
Though the Russians may have been fucking around Oregon if a rather well traveled Native American from out east is to be believed.
The Russians were in Alaska, Oregon and parts of northern California in the 19th century. I'm not sure about Washington. They left examples of Russian architecture in Mendocino and Humboldt Bay, and a few place names such as Sebastopol in Sonoma County. Mainly fur trappers, though they did a bit of logging and fishing too. If your Native American source is implying far earlier contact, that might also be true but I don't know of any evidence to support it.
It's basically just his word for it. But he was in pretty constant contact with white people so I can assume he knew what he was looking at, this would've happened in the 1700s. As for what these possibly Russians were doing? Sounds like a slave raid by all accounts possibly out of Vladivostok or a similar port city, which basically garuntees that this was very illegal, also at best you'd probably get some landing sites and whatnot but I suspect that those have either been destroyed or are obscured at this point.
Once upon a time we had a deep state. We replaced it with a dumb state. D'OH
He only speaks War Crime.
Next executive order: English is henceforth called American.
Easy now, henceforth is a pretty big word.
The literal dumbest people run everything.
Before or after the French took over in 1066?
England? Well there was Cornish and Manx. Cornish went extinct in the 18th century but the last monoglot speaker died in the 17th century.
I am not counting Welsh since that is in Wales... And Scots Gaelic is in Scotland, its own country.
The Scots and Irish keep Gaelic alive just to piss off the British.
Except the orthography, which works but is still conceptually insane.
Oh it garnered remarks, all right.
Sadly, that's all it garnered. The US has a three-branch government symbolically only, and our only real power as a people is local.
Our system was never designed to handle parties. Breaks the whole thing
It was designed to handle one party: rich, white landowners. That's very plain in our founding documents, and why the power of the people is so tightly constrained. And it wasn't long after that found that Washington himself set our military on our own discontented farmers.
The fact they are or idolize nazis is old news.
“American Exceptionalism” is his religion.
Actually he only speaks Douche.
Not beating the being stupid allegations...
If I was religious I'd be really nervous about the Book of Revelation type shit happening right now.
That's what they are pushing so that people have no long term incentive to improve things.
The truly wacko religious types are always doomsday cultists.
I knew it lol I was waiting for it. I give it 6 months until the national language has been renamed to "American" through a illegal executive order
"Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen." -Donald Trump
Is this the 'American' he speaks?
Yes. Yes it is. And that sums everything up perfectly.
Covfefe?
If you haven't seen it before this is a highlights reel of bandit Keith in a spoof dubbing from yugioh abridged https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBbodtKylqs
Edit: Shorter clip of the best scene - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2UoU0rUX0
What's "American"? Was he educated in a different country? I had English classes in the US.
English?!? What!? He's not from England!
Spoken like the pair of Trucknutz he is.
This reminds me of the time I saw a slab car in South Florida that made their own giant car nuts with soccer balls. You could see the hexagons through the epoxy and paint.
Goddamn fucking asshole always make McNamara look very tolerable in comparison.
The foreign leaders all raised two middle fingers to the speaker and said "we speak it too"
Dumbfuck
This whole administration is really giving that scene from Harold and Kumar vibes and I hate it. Or, really any scene with him in it lol.
These people are all sociopaths, so they have no idea how to behave and speak normally. They think they know what to say so that we'll never guess how weird they really are, but they're STUPID, too, so they really don't understand, and end up saying all sorts of inappropriate nonsense.
lol. This guys such a pussy.
He says „i am an idiot“ without saying „i am an idiot“.
Shields to Hide More Corruption! The war on drugs is a complete waste.
Is he SPEAKING English?
What is "American"???
As a citizen of that nation, "fuck if I know" about covers it. There is a large chunk of Americana that I just don't understand nor have good feels about. The nation since my childhood, has felt dilapidated and disappointing.
They are circling the Christian drain.
Just a few generations left now. I wonder what will replace it.
Mostly just grunting I believe.
I swear I can never take government seriously. They are wilding out
He really is that stupid, and all that alcohol doesn't make him (or anyone) smarter.
"American" isn't a language, you christofascist dipshit
What does “American” sound like?
sounds like a mouth full of tiny orange cock evidently.
ok, Hegseth is a dick, but showing that picture is disingenuous. look... Nazi's everywhere....
He’s a dick but also a fascist so…I don’t know what’s disingenuous about it?
The position of his hand in that photo and him being a Fascists seem more like coincidence rather than being related.
There are non-NAZI, valid in that situation, arm and hand movements which yield still photos that look the same as a Heil Hitler, for example waving for people to "cool down" (arm to the front and slightly to the side moving up and down, hand open, palm down).
(This for example does not apply to the actual video of Musk's NAZI salute, since a NAZI salute is the only arm and hand movement that matches what was shown in that video of Musk - in the face of that whole video the universe of alternative explanations is zero)
So this still of Hegseth with his hand in that position does not logically prove the guy is a NAZI or even a Fascist because there are other entirelly valid non-NAZI hand movements that would yield such a still.
Now, if that was a video of the entire thing and it was the same whole movement as Musk did, that's a whole different story.
It's what Hegseth says (including in this specific instance) and his actions that prove that he's at the very least a Fascist, not this single shot photograph.
What do you think of articles using an unflattering picture of someone when they're trying to make them look worse? Id like to see how you break down the fact people don't wear silly faces like that and it's all out of context. This goes deeper than people realize.
This goes deeper than people realize.
I totally agree.
For me the use of cherry picked photos like that is a big red flag about the absence of Journalistic integrity of that publication and that shit (as well as a lot of other slimy Propaganda techniques) is all over the place, especially (but not only) in the Press in Anglo-Saxon countries.
I follow the Principle that people should be judged by their actions, and Principles apply to everybody indepently of their political color, so I abhor misportraying of a situation by people closer to me politically just as much as I abhor it when done by people far from me politically - if you put your principles aside for some political colors but not others, then they're not really principled and instead you just have principle-sounding slogans you use in politics.
And to address your first part, I do analyse any shocking pictures in the same way and with the same skepticism (the bigger the claim the bigger the proof required) - for many it's not hard to figure out alternative explanations which have a high probability. You can tell if it's a true skeptical analysis like I try to do or just denialism like many people do for political ends by 2 things:
- Do they do it always to "protect" one political side but never a different political one?
- Do they use low probability possibilities to dismiss high probability ones? For example, claiming that Musk was doing a "from my heart to you" movement rather than a "NAZI salute" when he did his salute, TWICE, in the Republican party conference - in terms of probability based on context, his past comments and even the details of the salute, the "NAZI salute" was a much higher probability explanation than any other explanations put forward by people who seemed more driven by liking him than anything else.
I agree with all that, I guess I just don't see it as a problem!
Fair enough.
Personally I think that his actions and words provide so much and so ample proof against the man that misportraying a picture of him adds nothing to the proof against him whilst introducing doubt on the character of the critics that would use forms of deceit such as that misportraying.
In other words, it's a net loss rather than a net gain.
Further, as a Principle I'm just against all forms of misportrayal of a person and situation, no matter what the political color of those involved - if I was only against it when it was done to attack people I dislike, then it wouldn't be a Principle, it would just be me doing some performative-Morality.
now do the same for this photo
There are quite a lot of reasons for showing such displeasure, maybe a comment from somebody else at the same time or even just finding a bit of cartilage or bone in the bacon (I myself might very well do such a face if I was eating a bacon sandwich and there as cartilage or a bone in the bacon).
Also it's quite possible that bacon sandwich was simply a bad bacon sandwich.
It's also possible that Ed, being an upper middle class wanker like Blair, had never eaten a bacon sandwich before and didn't like it (which is weird, since even ultra posh upper class English wankers would have been exposed to fried bacon at some point in their lives, if only when eating a Full English Breakfast) or was secretly a vegetarian or vegan.
The very purposeful fake outrage against the Labour Party and Ed Milliband around that created by the British Tabloids during an election campaign has nothing to do with the reality of what was really going on and all to do with the style of British politics and the stupidity of a large fraction of the British electorate (as proven not that many years later by the Leave Referendum campaign and subsequent results).
The picture and the context around it says a lot more about Britons than it says about Ed Milliband.
Ugh.
Literally the first comment I read today and it's this dumb shit. Not a great start.
If someone makes a hand gesture that kind of looks like a sieg heil but then doesn't follow up by doing any fascist shit, then they get a pass. That isn't the case with Hegseth or Musk.
Take your troll shit elsewhere. It isn't working here.
Oh this card. Sure, we're fascists, buttery males!
Fuck off.
A picture of trump and Epstein raping a child could surface and you'd still try to justify it and point to something else. "But but but but"
🤡
it was the picture used in the article.
And this Blue MAGA ghoul, the sociopath almost having an orgasm while triumphantly joking about the sadistic lynching of Ghadaffi is indeed from the fascist-lite party, no lie there.
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Its "I only speak english and bad english" you uncultured fuck
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