That's a badass cape cloak.
That's a badass cape cloak.
We really need to bring back cloak-wearing...
If it compiles too fast, you don't have time to properly savour it.
I guess tiling WM users never need to edit an image, eh?
The total is zero, the Force is in balance. All is well
Oh. I didn't even notice the Dr Pepper. ... Also... I did not know there was any correlation between Dr Pepper and gentoo. I stopped my Dr Pepper addiction 5 years before I used gentoo. ... I was on 4L a day for months, and didn't realise I had a problem until I drank 9L in 24hr.
+1 for "-1 for non Lenovo machine". [... unless it's like tuxedo or system76 or something like that or some pure custom job on a different architecture]
Genuine question: is that cloak yours and how did you make it?
This is a random internet image for shitposts and giggles. I considered the face to be obscured enough for the guy to be sufficiently anonymous, though he deserves fame and fortune for his awesomeness.
Had gentoo as my daily driver for years, then it turned out that I was worse at optimizing my system than the debian guys who create distros professionally, so I just... stopped.
Spent too much time fiddling with gentoo because it was fun, now I'm on fedora because it just works and is modern enough.
(The amount of time spent fixing my system once I discovered "breakmygentoo" we probably shouldn't talk about)
Meh...use what you use, don't judge others for what they use... unless it's windows, fuck those guys.
yeah I've tried just about all of them and at the end of the day it really boils down to "how do you like to install your shit". a DE/WM is probably more important than the distro at this point as you're going to get similar performance no matter what you're on.
I use NixOS only because for me personally it makes dev work slightly easier than other distros. that's it really. Some people want to constantly tinker, some people just want to install and forget about it for a year and have it stay out of their way. It's all about personal taste and how you want to install stuff really. I know a guy that uses Bazzite for everything not just gaming and he loves it. it works for him. My dad uses Slackware and will never use anything else, he loves it. If I had the time I'd probably switch to Gentoo but NixOS works for me right now. Like I said the DE/WM is more important.
All that being said if you use GNOME then I'm worried for your well being. /s
I LOVE keeping my configs in source control. I add something to my laptop in my shared config, it also adds it to my work desktop and my travel box. I need it just on the prime laptop? there's a spot for that too. Stuff that's not needed every day? nix-shell -p it. I even setup some shared nix-shell project folders so if i need something like yt-dlp, nix-shell in the directory pulls down a specific python, installs the latest yt-dlp, ffmpeg and deno, even leaves me a shellhook reminder of what the command line is. when I close that shell, it's all gone.
yeah nix shells are awesome. I use a few suckless things to the point I have my own #suckless nix development shell. Just load that up whenever I need to change or build someting and i'm good to go. for my other dev things I just use flakes which makes it just as easy. all I have to do is CD into a project directory and then my environment is instantly setup. CD out and it's gone. All that on top of my system config being in a repo I can reinstall my system on any PC within minutes.
Really NixOS is the end game of Linux Distros. Once you finally figure it out you'll never distro hop again.
I'm not sure that I'm what anyone would call "experienced". But I've used it for a long time. And people wetting their pants over one or another distribution seems like a total waste of time. they're all very similar.
I'm very much not happy to be associated with the community depicted in meme - i sincerely hope most of them are just taking the piss out of themselves.
I think even if there were quadruple the user base it's not going to materially change the number of developers making decent linux native programs. So you either use open source stuff. or webapps and wine stuff like that. Size of userbase is pretty irrelevant to me.
Distros are a matter of taste, and you shouldn‘t judge someone over it. But a bit of friendly fun-poking is alright (e.g. „NixOS user spend all night configuring their PC“). Insults directed directly at a person are never OK. And there are of course distros that are objectively bad (like Ubuntu), and you can criticize their creators, and maybe try to convince the users to choose something else (that‘s where Mint is from, kind of), but you cannot. hate. on. them.
The experienced linux nerds argue about DEs, not distros.
So true lmao. I have been using Linux for 4 years. Recently three of my friends have switched, each went for a distro I would never go for myself, nor recommend to anyone. Yet I was just happy for them and hopeful for FOSS.
Saying this as a person who once said systemd is bloat, proprietary drivers are backdoors, Firefox is bloated spyware, use only FSF approved distros.
I'm actually hoping the Windoze losers stay away....last thing we need is a flood of "make it more like windows" requests.. Ugh..
Yes - they should stay in another subculture, far away.
Ideally they'll also be locked behind a paywall, safely protected by shit like "HP sure start" so that they don't accidentally open some dangerous csv file in anything other than excel.
Eh. You just give them a little shake and they go quiet pretty quickly.
Same conclusion for me. Been using Linux for years, Mint is the only distro I've used that #JustWorks in my experience.
I use LMDE as my personal laptop, it's rock stable.
LMDE tries to give you the Mint experience on a Debian base. It's Debian for people who like Mint, I guess.
Iirc LMDE uses a btrfs naming scheme that is incompatible with Timeshift for example, and it removes some standard Mint features. The last time I tried LMDE is was basically Debian with cinnamon (and green theme), but what is the Mint experience?
After 20 plus years of Linux I also really love using mint on any machine with a screen. My servers are all Debian based but my desktop and laptop are mint it just works
Also, not sure how using arch is equal to the picture, not sure if that's supposed to be a trans girl, an e girl, or something else. Using arch is more like a mechanic with a car that breaks down every time they change anything.
I'm in an organization that helps people install Linux on their devices, and we collectively decided to install Linux Mint. I never used it myself, and to me, the distribution doesn't matter too much.
However, I was negatively surprised that Linux Mint decided to mix closed-source proprietary software together with open-source software: http://packages.linuxmint.com/search.php?release=alfa§ion=import&keyword=
They also advertise them in top positions on their package installers, which also doesn't show the packages licenses anywhere. To me advertising them and mixing them like they are the same is bad... They also don't offer ways to filter them out... So... while I still install LM for others, I'm not a fan....
I don't care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
I'm not a purist, I want people to be informed users, not just sheep that get fed whatever corporations want them to eat. If they still choose to use closed source software, then that is fine.
I don’t care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
More often, it's not applications, per se -- it's things like video codecs and drivers.
And there is no open-source alternative, because the only way to decode that proprietary video format or run that proprietary wifi module is to use their proprietary software to do it. So you either have user-friendly distros that include the availability of those things for the 'it just works' experience, or you have open-source purist distros where you can be proud of being purely open source, but some of your video files won't play, and your wifi doesn't work.
CachyOS user

I was thinking more fashionable and "stand-outy".
Real hipsters, real performative hipsters, use arch.
Don't take those memes seriously, I think the only bad thing I'd have about CachyOS is that it's probably getting popularity as a trend, which doesn't reflect on the distro itself.
In my particular personal opinion it seems like a good choice if you already know what you're doing, since it's mostly just Arch with a nice installer, which I consider to be a solid choice with good support.
I’m mostly just asking because I figured the meme was based in something.
I’m no experienced software guy, mostly just a guy who isn’t dangerously stupid, but I’ve been having a good time so far. Or rather, a boring time because the only thing I had to really do was edit the fstab so my other drive would auto-mount. Otherwise it’s delightfully unexciting.
The image in the comment mostly just feels hipster to me, and that would fit jumping on a currently trendy distro that's also technically Arch. I don't know if there's more to it, it's just a vibe thing for me.
As a Debian user... Yes
So Linux Mint Debian Edition would just be a middle-aged person?
Lemme zoom in here just a wee bit on this here whatchycallit... Meme? Oh fiddlesticks, I don't have me glasses... There they are... Oh! Hee hee haa haa you young fellers are drole.
I use Debian.
TIL I'm a geriatric baby. (LMDE)
The real life Benjamin Button
Fairly accurate. SUSE is more like an IT guy forced to wear a suit to work that is not tailored well.
This guy is Kali Linux or Qubes/Whonix/TailsOS:

Cachy is pretty good and just works for a lot of stuff
Cachyos is Arch for people who want to use their computers
Arch is for people who yearn to control the parasympathetic nervous system with iron chains
Not that surprising. It advertises itself as a gaming first distro and is very stable out of the box. It would be either that or bazzite for the top spot.
Using steam statistics is going to bias your data toward gaming-oriented distros.
Cis straight male Arch user checking in. There's all kinds of us, everyone is welcome to wear what they like and feel what they feel.
Ask for help and help you shall have. (It'll just... it'll be someone giving you a link to a wiki page, or the wiki page, or saying "check the wiki", BUT YOU WILL BE HELPED BECAUSE THE WIKI IS GO(O)D!)
Migrating my workflow to NixOS right now, and it’s really made me realize just how good Arch Wiki is. NixOS and Nix are a bit disjointed in terms of documentation and learning resources. But Arch Wiki usually helps me gain intuition for which software does what and what traits I’m able to configure.
Non-Arch-Linux Linux users should absolutely consider the Arch Wiki when troubleshooting or learning about the Linux ecosystem! I’m not sure there’s a better broadly-applicable resource out there.
Arch wiki is awesome, I've been using Debian and Debian-derivatives for 10+ years and Debian's documentation is frankly embarassing compared to Arch's. There's some good stuff like Debian Administrator's Handbook (outdated tho) and the upgrade instructions for each stable release, but a lot of the Debian wiki information is outdated and riddled with dead links.
There's dozens of us! Represent!

Beautiful
Me, running CachyOS, and eschewing the socks:

Give it time...
Nah. I'm good.
Hell yeah! Programming socks are overrated.
Yes, they are.
Kneel before the barefoot-programming aristocracy!
Linux Mint as the baby makes no sense. That would actually be CachyOS or MX Linux at this point.
::: spoiler edit
I didn't interpret the age of the people matching the user of the distro. I matched the person in the graphic as the perceived maturity of the project itself... not the user. This is why I say to me Linux Mint doesn't make sense as the baby... MX Linux and CachyOS have been adopted more recently than before.
:::
Maybe zorin OS. I think that mint is still popular with new Linux users though.
So far in my experience cachy just works a bit more than mint
Hey I'm not that old!
1995 was 10 years ago right?
It's pretty underrated, it's like Mint or Pop but with KDE (and therefore better) and better optimization if you buy their hardware.
Feels like maybe that represents SUSE but...not OpenSUSE. Tumbleweed is legit and the community is super chill and dope.
yeah I feel personally attacked lmao
I use OpenSuse, Fedora, and Arch.
This meme is too accurate
The combination of those three people in the meme would be... Interesting
So you're a trans Fedora wearer with a triple neckbeard?
Hey, don't blow my cover
It me. I am Happy baby.
Ummm actually, it's pronounced acktually
I too am new to Linux and love mint
I love Mint because I put my geriatric, non-techie dad on it 6 or 7 years ago and he's only asked me for help 3 times. And þe second time was because he bought a new (used) laptop and wanted Linux Mint on it instead of þe Windows it came wiþ.
Nice
Hey, how did you take a picture of me 🤨
What about bazzite?
Furry.
(It's me I use Bazzite)
I consider Bazzite fedora but that changes nothing to what you said
In the context of the meme, Fedora+Arch is more accurate
Just add some cat ear headphones
I think we NixOS users get grouped in with Arch. Same socks, different colors.
And the even more glorious, guix
As a NixOS user, what are some things I would like about Guix? The webpage mostly covers features already present in NixOS, so I'm curious how they diverge.
Thanks for the breakdown. Those are some good arguments in favor of it I hadn't heard. Nix lang can leave some things to be desired, especially in the error handling/debugging department.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I see are legs that have never completed a single squat.
garters
I recently decided to set up CachyOS after a long break from Linux. I was kind of astounded at the experience of using an Arch-derivative. I went back to Debian the same day. Sometimes shit just works fine even though it worked fine 20 years ago.
It's lonely out there being an arch user and a butch dyke 😔
Where Slackware?? WHERE SLACKWARE??!!
Six feet under
Great song.
I always felt that the default package situation for Ubuntu was far better than Debian's. Like, no, I don't want to set a root password and then manually install sudo or doas after and then add myself to the relevant group and then remove the root password...
Where NixOS?
Can confirm. Run OpenSUSE and my neckfolds run for days.
debian 16 estradiol
I think this is a better representation of Debian (the beard is important). https://commons.wikimedia.org/...
What about us distrohoppers? Just schizos?
Old neck beard with trans socks.
That would explain a lot about me...
squirrel
Nah. Mint users aren't babies, they're the most everyman user. You probably won't find them on a linuxmemes page because they installed it out of frustration with co-pilot and don't want to know what an operating system is.
Ubuntu is accurate. Arch is accurate and also how dare you. Fedora is slander. That's linus torvalds' distro you're dissing. Debian… Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine. If its installed on something its your set it and forget it machine. The webserver that serves your neocities ass looking website. or your company's email server. Its not for old people, its for old machines. Or machines that plan on growing old.
rest like a baby
Piss your pants and wake up crying several times per night?
Linux mint user here, I'm using it because I can't be bothered to spend my precious few spare time on fixing things my OS decided to break. I want something that just works, and mint fits the bill, and comes out of the box with most of the things set up how I like.
Debian… Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine
All of my personal machines run Debian.
EDIT: Well...I have Termux installed on an Android device as well. I guess that could be considered a Linux distro.
Specifically, Debian is for when you're sick of Canonical's bullshit but don't want to learn another package manager or start dealing with rolling releases.
Also, Raspberry Pi OS is Debian, too, and that's literally for children.
Gonna go out on a limb and say nobody uses debian on a personal machine.
Sending this comment from a Debian desktop system. And it's running oldstable, because that's how I roll!
I was a mint user, a year later I am a void user and am trying other distros on other machines and plan on trying more OSes. First thing I did was learn to customize my cursor with custom icons I had from windows which took me days because I didn't know how to use the terminal. I somehow used flatpak wrong???
I am sure it is different for long term users but it was a good start and fun learning experience. I mean don't get me wrong I am still dumb but a bit less.
@TheGingerNut @cannedtuna ZorinOS user detected
Gentoo gang where?
In a cave with a box of scraps and a thousand yard stare.
They were still trying to piece together the camera.
I look like a fat version of the bottom left but use Ubuntu
I run top
Idk about the mega neckbeard for opensuse. Every one I've met has been the most normal and least annoying. It just works and allegedly has some very nice convienence features.
Also the arch user could just as easily be copied to nixos.
Yeah, SUSE is a very competent server distro, basically RHEL/Alma/Rocky for Germans. Neckbeard maybe for Tumbleweed, but that still feels too normie compared to Arch, Void etc.
See this makes me feel like I should be using arch, but I'm an idiot whos practically slobering all over the keyboard. I just want my pretty ui and for inkscape and my browser to work and to not have to worry about things unless I'm choosing to tinker
If I have to use the terminal for an prolonged period of time I might cry. I almost got void fully installed and working, but I just wanted my new replacement laptop up and running after my old one broke, so I gave up 🥹
I almost got void fully installed and working
I just wanted my new replacement laptop up
I gave up 🥹
Did you use the XFCE version? I did so (XFCE musl*) on an old machine, had a bit of trouble with the partitioning at first (had to try the live image a second time because new changes weren't working) but ultimately worked fine. Seems to run fine, then again I wanted XFCE anyway. Install octoxbps and you can use that for installing/updating software as well.
Though post-install I did notice some dependencies being missing when installing some software, and packaging seems weak (like no optional dependencies like Arch has). So I haven't committed to it on my main machine**, though I guess I can test it to see Void's long-term updating experience (though the live image being from ~6-months ago probably says enough).
* because I am actually interested in this for compilation, and it actually is a use-case for an old machine
** outdated Arch... a bit of friction with my non-fiber internet, legacy GPU (1050Ti) drivers on AUR is a no-go for me
not accurate
source: transfem opensuse user
well...
source: overweight bearded nerd with glasses using opensuse
how many years more i have to use mint until i rejuvenate?
Add all the windows refugees with Zorin flooding forums with easily searchable questions and the gaming refugees with nobara complaining their community supported software isn't as full featured or polished as software produced by a multi-billion dollar company.
I can confirm that with a fresh Zorin install to replace windows 10, I am/will be one of the described persons. So far my qwant searches and AI searches have kept me off the forums, but I know the day will come.
It happens. I remember back in 2008 having quite the time learning about Linux with zero awareness of anything. I remember being kinda shocked there was a whole OS that wasn't windows or Mac and it was free.
Arch does piss me off less than most distros.
Wait….
Arch is what i want to be, openSuse is who i am.
Obligatory not an arch user, but I have been thinking of potentially getting thigh highs if I can find purple and white stripped ones. Closest I got is a couple of pairs of soccer/football socks that I recently got, but I kinda wanna change that.
Behind suse
Actually, yes (I use Arch-nya-desu, btw >w<)
Where are Void and Alpine? Or Slackware and Gentoo.
The higher the socks the downer the foo'
Can confirm. I'm an Ubuntu child and soon going to become a Debian old man.
I'm forced to use Ubuntu (an old version too, 22.04) because the app I use for about 70% of my computer time doesn't support anything else. I've tried newer versions of ubuntu and other distros and have gotten it to a mostly working state after a lot of work, but the issues are too much and I also loose all customer support since I'm not using the officially supported distro and version. I'll never go back to Windows but I feel jailed in more than I did before, and there's just no other option.
So what does that image look like?
Im trying to imagine what software is so obscure no one has updated it or ported to another distro, but is important and good enough that you use it for 70% of your comluter time.
Even (often, especily) extremely old programming languages and stuff are still maintained by someone
Probably shit like NinjaRMM
They only support Ubuntu for their rdesktop app, Someone pulled it kicking and screaming into nixpkgs, i built a flake around it. It's stable, but the day they release a breaking change, I'm at the mercy of an unpaid, unnamed package maintainer to make it work again or take a stab at it myself. Or run it in wine, or run it in a windows VM. or build it out an ubuntu docker and x11 forward it back.
Yeah but even then a VM isnt crazy terrible for those. I had a job where i was running my pc through 4 different vms before i could reach the users PC (which was running on a VM)
Also wine
Yeah, I had a Windows VM for them, it was the ultimate in compatibility, but it was another thing to deal with on admin/updates. Ubuntu docker images with maintainers bridges the gap in all ways except maybe a little sketch on supply chain security
Distrobox?
This is me as an opensuse user
I rarely have to troubleshoot. The only issues I've run into lately is the package manager (pacman) refusing to download an updated package. Refreshing the mirrors or a quick internet search is usually enough to fix that.
From my experience, the only times troubleshooting is needed is if you tinker with things or use programs outside of the package manager.
As far as I can tell, the first thing you have to do as an Arch user is convince yourself that you're smarter than the package maintainer.
I update weekly ish and very rarely have issues. And if I do it's the usual suspects hyprland, pw, proton and video drivers.
You can either lock these and make them not update as frequently or use more stable software instead.
I personally like the troubleshooting because it means I'm learning something so that helps.
[ps. preface warning: dangerous whimsy here... rtfm... don't dive in eager and blind and then "break" your system and come blame me.]
Debian user here. I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update. How do u folks deal with that?
I don't [switch]. Instead I [(having already thoroughly read through all the documentation several times)]
wget https://github.com/bedrocklinux/bedrocklinux-userland/releases/download/0.7.31/bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh chmod +x bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh./bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.shbrl fetch archsudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo pacman -Syu.... And more likely I'd do brl fetch void ; brl fetch gentoo ; brl fetch -r ceres -n ceres devuan ; brl fetch artix. But ^ that's for if "I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update."
Could also do frequent brl copy arch arch-fallback-(date) or some such, so then if something goes wrong with an upgrade, you could just carry on unperturbed, or even disable the stratum that had something go wrong, or even delete it, and brl rename arch-fallback-20260806 arch, and carry on with your day, sure it'll resolve the upgrade properly next time tomorrow. ;)
But of course, this is a bit overkill, like starting a huge complex science and production logistics project just to crack a nut.
But it is my honest answer of how I deal with that. ;)
Can confirm, am baby.
What does LXTq get me?
I installed Debian on a VM just to test out a Necesse Lan server for the home/family.... I did not like it.
Baby.
I thought the triple neckbeards use BSD?
Plan9 or 9Front lol
Yeah I noticed that is why I removed my comment.
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