Moderators Across Social Media Struggle to Contain Celebrations of UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Assassination

2 years ago by misk to c/technology

While Reddit mods and admin try to keep up with the site's "no violence" terms of use, Facebook and LinkedIn is reacting with tens of thousands of laughing emojis.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod 434 points 2 years ago

It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.

It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.

People really hate insurance companies.

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sunzu2 185 points 2 years ago
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TimeSquirrel 111 points 2 years ago

You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 61 points 2 years ago
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pennomi 12 points 2 years ago
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user224 32 points 2 years ago

It is almost never a question of whether it's possible or not. You WILL make a mistake. It's just a question of how much effort you're worth as an individual.

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granolabar 21 points 2 years ago

right, don't make it easy for them. plus they got prolly got half a country to put on the list now.

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paraphrand 4 points 2 years ago

No, they said we already knew about that and didn’t give it another thought.

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rockSlayer 17 points 2 years ago

They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.

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avidamoeba 4 points 2 years ago

☝️

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Ledivin 10 points 2 years ago

lol @ thinking reddit is anonymous

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sunzu2 8 points 2 years ago
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5in1k 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah if they fuck with me they will find for sure.

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Wildly_Utilize 1 point 2 years ago
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wreckedcarzz 5 points 2 years ago

Help, I'm now physically inside my system, but it's kinda hard to read the screen at this angle. Plus I've got to reach out for keyboard input...

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yetAnotherUser 2 points 2 years ago

No you don't??

Just use an on-screen keyboard smh

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NotBillMurray 82 points 2 years ago

LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I've ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 46 points 2 years ago

I used to work for a big data company that tracked shares to various social networks and the frequency with which people share porn to LinkedIn was remarkably high.

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CosmicTurtle0 29 points 2 years ago

What?! How?! So I can learn to avoid it!

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TheBrideWoreCrimson 5 points 2 years ago

Maybe it was only-secretaries dot com.

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DragonTypeWyvern 2 points 2 years ago

I need a direct link to be sure

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Kyrgizion 21 points 2 years ago

People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country's worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles... nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.

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homesweethomeMrL 244 points 2 years ago

“United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s final KD ratio (7,652,103:1) lands him among the all time greats,” a thread deleted by r/interestingasfuck moderators said.

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moody 156 points 2 years ago

By definition, none of the kills are his. They're all assists.

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ExcessShiv 93 points 2 years ago

Still pretty impressive ratio though

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DragonTypeWyvern 41 points 2 years ago

KDA is perfectly valid, some classes just don't do any work themselves.

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joel_feila 43 points 2 years ago

I would pay for that to be his grave stone

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jagged_circle 35 points 2 years ago

It only costs one bottle of spray paint

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Confused_Emus 14 points 2 years ago

They’re gonna have to put this dipshit’s grave on private property.

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58008 207 points 2 years ago

What I like about this moment is that the people who ought to be fearful are indeed the ones who are fearful. I mean shit, Elon is posting Tweets about how great CEOs are actually, health insurance companies are removing pages from their websites that identify leadership, it's a lovely little pocket of schadenfreude where we can all take a breath and prepare for the next 4 years.

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Blackmist 86 points 2 years ago

I like the idea that they've got billions of dollars, but will have to live in a windowless bunker eating beans.

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surph_ninja 18 points 2 years ago

They couldn’t even hunker down in their mansions for two weeks of Covid lockdown.

They like to fantasize about it, but the reality of living like that will hit them fast.

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boogiebored 3 points 2 years ago

This is because they are not self sufficient, at all. They are parasites.

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infinite_ass 4 points 2 years ago

Boot them from our nice society, in other words

We could deny them the right to buy and sell too. Just everybody refuses.

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sunzu2 60 points 2 years ago
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surph_ninja 13 points 2 years ago

I hope there’s a copycat to reinforce the lesson very soon, or they’ll write this off as a one off.

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sean 3 points 2 years ago

For the sake of my neighbors and their loved ones and their neighbors and loved ones, please stop permitting people to rule over them

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jagged_circle 12 points 2 years ago

Ive got bullets with words on them and bullets without. But I'm all outta bullets without words on them

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ByteOnBikes 186 points 2 years ago

He didn't really get "assassinated". He just got denied his critical-life benefits.

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TheFogan 78 points 2 years ago

Pre-existing condition, lead poisoning in a boomer.

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GreatBlueHeron 64 points 2 years ago

This isn't a generational thing. For a start, he's technically Gen X, not a boomer. And secondly, I'm older than him and I'm just as happy about that as everyone else.

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DragonTypeWyvern 8 points 2 years ago

(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)

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GreatBlueHeron 18 points 2 years ago

Which is really really sad. When I was younger I used to think we just need these old people to age out of the system and my generation can do things better. We seem to be doing significantly worse.

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btaf45 3 points 2 years ago

(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)

That's really sad because the younger someone is the more they are going to be fucked by the long term effects of Donald Trainwreck's enshitification of everything. Nuclear proliferation from the new world disorder, global warming, hyperinflation of the national debt due to gigantic tax cuts for the billionaire elites, hollowing out democracy, normalization of corruption, normalization of routine dishonesty, huge economic inefficiencies that comes with wealth inequality, removal of previous rights like abortion, vast increase in government incompetency, etc

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granolabar -4 points 2 years ago

While boomer is deff age, when people refer to it online it largely mind sent reference... that parasite pest leeching on working people and feel entitled to do it, indigent when exposed.

You know the type...

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raynethackery 18 points 2 years ago

He was actually GenX.

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frostysauce 10 points 2 years ago

You've seen pictures of him right? Just how fucking young do you think boomers are?

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DragonTypeWyvern -8 points 2 years ago

Boomer, n. "A privileged asshole who keeps fucking things up for everyone else."

If that doesn't apply to you, they're not insulting you.

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frostysauce 4 points 2 years ago

You can't just make up a definition of a word.

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jaybone 3 points 2 years ago

Everyone older than me is a boomer.

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shiftymccool 3 points 2 years ago

Everyone younger than me is a zoomer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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sunzu2 17 points 2 years ago
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AngryCommieKender 9 points 2 years ago

Sympathy witheld until forms can be obtained that prove that the bullet holes were not a pre existing condition.

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TheBrideWoreCrimson 3 points 2 years ago

Most humans are born with orifices, I think that counts.

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shortwavesurfer 160 points 2 years ago

This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.

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ininewcrow 123 points 2 years ago

When society gets to the point where you will die if you don't do anything .... or you will die if you do something ....

Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don't do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.

If you're going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.

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shortwavesurfer 69 points 2 years ago

I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 68 points 2 years ago

Hopefully it doesn't come to that, and he just never gets caught.

If he does, it's gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.

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shortwavesurfer 20 points 2 years ago

Except the government will probably make GoFundMe freeze the funds for the campaign.

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underisk 17 points 2 years ago

if this dude gets found he won't make it to trial.

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Drusas 14 points 2 years ago

Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.

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avidamoeba 5 points 2 years ago

Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He'll be a hero either way, the question is how much.

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pdxfed 11 points 2 years ago

Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it's barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.

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DemBoSain 40 points 2 years ago

Does he have a Patreon?

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shortwavesurfer 42 points 2 years ago

Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.

Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn't really have any time to enjoy it.

Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.

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nomous 11 points 2 years ago path: 0 13830621 13830777 13831004 13833147, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 3
shortwavesurfer 1 point 2 years ago

Indeed he is. Did you read the SI?

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daddy32 9 points 2 years ago

Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.

This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.

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Grimy 5 points 2 years ago

We need a black market gofundme so we can crowd source hits to keep up.

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shortwavesurfer 5 points 2 years ago

I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don't have enough people who hate them.

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sunzu2 11 points 2 years ago
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grue 15 points 2 years ago

TBF, we don't know that. Might've been a paid hitman.

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TipRing 48 points 2 years ago

The professional killer was the one who died.

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shortwavesurfer 23 points 2 years ago

According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that's the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.

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Aztechnology 40 points 2 years ago
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FauxPseudo 3 points 2 years ago

His DNA doesn't need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It's how they caught the BTK Killer.

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Ledivin 34 points 2 years ago

Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.

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shortwavesurfer 12 points 2 years ago

No, not that I'm aware of.

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Josey_Wales 9 points 2 years ago

Does he have an OnlyFans?

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shortwavesurfer 2 points 2 years ago

Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.

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boogiebored 1 point 2 years ago

Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?

This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.

The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.

This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell

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shortwavesurfer 1 point 2 years ago

Jim bell ftw

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Lettuceeatlettuce 149 points 2 years ago

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RobotToaster 142 points 2 years ago

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floofloof 66 points 2 years ago

Silly tardigrade's playing on the wrong side of the bridge. Do they teach nothing at tardigrade music school?

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ylph 24 points 2 years ago

He's playing Penderecki

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Rubisco 22 points 2 years ago

TIL. Thank you!

but the piece that truly brought him to international attention was Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima (see threnody and atomic bombing of Hiroshima), written in 1960 for 52 string instruments. In it, he makes use of extended instrumental techniques (for example, playing behind the bridge, bowing on the tailpiece).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Penderecki

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ylph 9 points 2 years ago

The Threnody is definitely his most famous, but he has used that technique in some of his solo compositions for cello as well - example

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floofloof 11 points 2 years ago

Threnody to the Victims of Health Insurance Companies.

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foggenbooty 5 points 2 years ago

It's also not even a violin.

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floofloof 7 points 2 years ago

It's hard to tell. It looks deep like a cello, but the bridge doesn't look quite high enough. Maybe at the tardigrade scale stringed instruments are made a little differently.

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GaMEChld 2 points 2 years ago

🐻

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Zak 140 points 2 years ago

I couldn't help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.

I don't want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.

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captain_aggravated 61 points 2 years ago

Finding out after you've fucked around isn't terror.

Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. This guy's a vigilante.

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sunzu2 10 points 2 years ago
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Netrunner 1 point 2 years ago
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sunzu2 0 points 2 years ago
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gaael 39 points 2 years ago

In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.

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barsoap 1 point 2 years ago

You just reminded me of a movie and let's just say I highly recommend it.

On yet another front, the Greek resistance would kill Nazis. In retaliation, Nazis would kill whole villages. Enraged, more Greeks would join the resistance and kill more Nazis. Net result: Towards the end pretty much every Greek was in the resistance and Greece was the only (IIRC, or at least the first or something) country to free itself from Nazi occupation. (Then they became a dictatorship different story).

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Deceptichum 31 points 2 years ago
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ricecake 22 points 2 years ago

No, it's terror. It's just that that isn't always the negative we've tended to think it is.

Typically we've been citizens in a country on the "power" side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it's bad.

This time we're on the other side of the power dynamic, so it's seemingly.... Good.

The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.

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supersquirrel 9 points 2 years ago

This is a direct consequence of "the war on terror" attempting to redefine the military strategy of asymmetrical warfare as terrorism and inherently immoral.

To sell the bullshit "war on terror" the easiest way to make the US seem righteous was to degrade the public's sense of why people violently resist and reduce it to the act of violently resisting an organized traditional military is immoral unless the thing resisting is also a traditional organized military.

I am glad that narrative is breaking down though as the distortion of how and why violent conflicts occur is dangerously blinding to a basic understanding of the world.

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btaf45 3 points 2 years ago

Killing people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time is always wrong.

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100_kg_90_de_belin 7 points 2 years ago

Marx once said that proletarians won't embellish the terror once it's their turn.

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Zak -3 points 2 years ago

Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.

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in4aPenny 3 points 2 years ago

Good thing there's only 2066 of them. 2065 now.

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dessimbelackis 23 points 2 years ago

Just a light drizzle of terror

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winterayars 14 points 2 years ago

Technically they didn't fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It's just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.

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DarkFuture 119 points 2 years ago

EAT. THE. RICH.

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Dremor 35 points 2 years ago

Too much fat, it'd be unhealthy.

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nshibj 36 points 2 years ago

Separate the fat. Make soap with it. Sell it to the rich.

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ivanafterall 13 points 2 years ago

Tell them the soap removes toxins and you'll make a killing. Heh.

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Infinite 3 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't that be two killings?

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stinky 26 points 2 years ago

COMPOST. THE. RICH.

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Rakonat 12 points 2 years ago

Turn the rich into soap and clean this society up!

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Rekonok 3 points 2 years ago

They not that much just take a bite and give it to the next

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peopleproblems 119 points 2 years ago

You know what's pretty neat about this?

It's not mob justice. Mob justice is when people get together and come up with bad ideas. This is an individual that the public has now rallied around.

While we only see comments from a select few number of people in this country (relative to it's size of 350m) it seems that democracy is voicing itself. I know a lot of people who were initially shocked, but then quickly came to the conclusion that FAFO is a real thing.

And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 46 points 2 years ago

And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.

Hopefully more of the FO part comes out of the woodwork.

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Excrubulent 34 points 2 years ago

"Mob justice" is a boogeyman invented to distract you from the fact that the cops and the state give you no justice at all.

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MisterFrog 19 points 2 years ago

It's not even mob justice, it's vigilante justice. It just so happens in this case practically everyone is pretty happy about it having happened.

The mob never called for this CEO's death, we're just not sad he was killed. Even if in general most of us wouldn't actively call for people to be killed.

If it makes CEOs afraid, then fantastic, a nice happy side-bonus.

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Excrubulent 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, and that's all true, but in the comment I replied to was room for the implication that "mob justice" is a problem somehow.

We're told it would be chaos, some great threat to society, but like, the only examples of mobs that I can think of doing any real damage are groups whose immediate aims were supported by the ruling class. Lynchings in the US south were openly permitted and encouraged by the entrenched white supremacist police state. Witch burnings were encouraged by the state to disenfranchise women from power over their own bodies, and they laid the foundations for capitalism.

Then those horrific examples of state oppression are presented to us as examples of the horrors that await if we were to ever stop bowing to that same state and take matters into our own hands.

Even if the person making the comment didn't intend to reinforce that notion, it's a default assumption for many people and I didn't want it to stand unchallenged.

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zbyte64 23 points 2 years ago

This guy is probably gonna get folk songs in TikTok by now

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granolabar 21 points 2 years ago

We don't know the implications of this. But there got to be something big coming our way.

Ruling class will not have their lieutenant punished like this in a broad day light with out lashing out.

They already despise as is, they gonna step up brutality imho screw here, screw there.

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Passerby6497 29 points 2 years ago

That's just going to pour gas on the fire. The less people have to lose, the more likely they're going to take matters into their own hands.

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SreudianFlip 16 points 2 years ago

History is rhyming again.

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granolabar 13 points 2 years ago

You aint wrong but ruling class can'[t accept one of their officers being gunned down by what appears to be a pleb with vendetta and he get away with it while rest of us cheer him on as a hero.

This is about power, and the the people with power feeling insecure.

Time will tell. I expect things to get worse before/if they ever get better for the working class.

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SaharaMaleikuhm 4 points 2 years ago

Not a lot of finding out so far though.

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kambusha 4 points 2 years ago

Fuck Around, Find Out?

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popekingjoe 2 points 2 years ago

You got it.

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NauticalNoodle 3 points 2 years ago

Is karma.

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uriel238 117 points 2 years ago

I'm telling ya, this is the beginning of A Christmas Carol. The ghost of Thompson needs to visit his colleagues and warn them you too, shall die, and no-one will mourn you and the people will celebrate in the streets. And all your friends will tear into your assets like vultures into carrion.

Heck, replace the ghosts with mobsters and use a trick of time rather than supernatural spirits, and you have a 21st century version of the story.

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peopleproblems 23 points 2 years ago

Dude

I love it.

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JasonDJ 14 points 2 years ago

Get Bill Murray and Bobcat Goldthwait. We're doing this.

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Machinist 104 points 2 years ago

Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.

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btaf45 19 points 2 years ago

Fuck the media for treating this murder as super important. This is something that only wealthy elites care about.

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Honytawk 16 points 2 years ago

But if the media didn't blew it up so much, we wouldn't get all these memes.

Its the Streisand in full effect.

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Jarix -3 points 2 years ago

Im only respond to your words: that only wealthy elites care about. Pedant warning. By responding you are agreeing to a very narrow discussion. Thank you for engaging this point of contention if you choose to do so.

This is inaccurate. my proof is that I know people who are unhappy with the mob mentality around murder being okay. People who dont even make as much as i do, and while i consider myself poor, i recognize im above my areas minimum wage. Additonally I am not a wealthy elite and care about this to the degree that it could be a problem for us non elites if things go badly

I personally midly concerned about what problems this might be showing us. Im not in a position to address or research them and dont claim that what i can see might happen is going to happen. Im opposed to people basing significant hardline stances on unproven and or untested assumptions and predictions. But I do see, without much difficulty or effort, how mobs and pitchforks are rarely proven to be acting on good faith rationality.

So all im asking here is for you to contemplate why you were comfortable making such an easily arguable word choice and if you could be more precise in the future when you really are passionate about an argument you are making.

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btaf45 1 point 2 years ago

Okay but why is the media treating this as more important than every other murder? It's not. That's what people are mad about. If anything, it is less important, since the motivation is something that not a threat to the general public.

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Jarix -1 points 2 years ago

You have violated the terms you agreed to

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Buttons 91 points 2 years ago

On the 4th of July, American's don't celebrate that British soldiers were killed, we celebrate the society we won in the process.

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jagged_circle 27 points 2 years ago

You think the "shot heard round the world" didn't hit someone?

We have to start somewhere and celebrate the early battles as well as the war's outcome

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redisdead 7 points 2 years ago

I mean back in the day, there's a solid chance that shot was way off target.

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verdantOrange 13 points 2 years ago
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btaf45 9 points 2 years ago

When the war was still going on, they probably did celebrate the number of enemy killed.

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DancingBear 91 points 2 years ago
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surph_ninja 15 points 2 years ago

‘We have to wait for elections to attempt to fix anything’ is just something we’ve been brainwashed to believe.

Enough people deciding they want change immediately makes it happen. Especially when those at the reigns fear immediate backlash.

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Alph4d0g 15 points 2 years ago

Elections are theater as long as corporate campaign funding exists.

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winterayars 15 points 2 years ago

Elections were the deal. We'd vote for representatives and abide by their decisions rather than, y'know, killing people in the streets to change society.

When elections can't change society, though. When the deal is broken, it's back to the old ways.

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surph_ninja 13 points 2 years ago

Yep. The social contract has been destroyed. Time to stop holding up our end of it.

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zephorah 3 points 2 years ago path: 0 13838597 13861706, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Odd_so_Star_so_Odd 3 points 2 years ago

Yea we feast on their money while they get to serve it up voluntarily to stay clear of the guillotine.

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DancingBear 1 point 2 years ago
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Kolanaki 81 points 2 years ago

Thank fuck Lemmy isn't owned by corporate interests that need other corporate interests to advertise on them or it'd be happening here, too.

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Deceptichum 25 points 2 years ago
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NickwithaC 41 points 2 years ago

This is the top post on all of Lemmy right now and it's in a .world community.

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antidenialistbot 14 points 2 years ago
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madcaesar 17 points 2 years ago

I think we've all been conditioned to clutch pearls at the news like this.

But ironically Trump has removed any and all decorum. Even when he was shot, people gave no shits, because he's a piece of shit that gives no shits.

So here we are. There's still some that want to "virtue signal" because violence and hate is never the answer! Meanwhile people are being ground into desperation, so your pearl clutching can get fucked.

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FlyingSquid -18 points 2 years ago

And the sense of entitlement people on a FREE WEBSITE is ridiculous. How many of the people complaining about .world censorship help pay for the sever?

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sgnl 10 points 2 years ago

The positions you take lately, and the arguments you make lately are increasingly disappointing.

No one owes .world anything... If those in control make questionable decisions, they are going to be called out regardless of aggressive moderation, it's all federated, kinda the point.

"Can't take he heat, get out of the kitchen..." and all that jazz...

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expr 7 points 2 years ago

Not sure why you're out here defending hugely unpopular behavior.

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eugenevdebs 3 points 2 years ago

I don't pay for .world nor it's micromanaging moderators and admins. Never have, never would for such a place.

Next time I get a bit of extra cash I will donate to my instance however.

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cro_magnon_gilf -3 points 2 years ago

Can't complain if you're gonna play the same game for the other side...

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Deceptichum 2 points 2 years ago
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db2 79 points 2 years ago

Something something and I'm tired of pretending it isn't, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he has had young children who couldn't understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.

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apfelwoiSchoppen 167 points 2 years ago

Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.

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TheTechnician27 81 points 2 years ago

I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they'll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.

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zbyte64 34 points 2 years ago

These execs are scared their own children will ask them to explain what they do for a living. Doubt they raise their kids as much as they pay someone else to do it. That being said, Elmo's kids are stuck on a compound. That's definitely going to mess them up.

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Drusas 18 points 2 years ago

They're already teenagers. The damage has been done, but hopefully this act will help them decide not to follow in their father's footsteps.

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sunzu2 8 points 2 years ago
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Ledivin 11 points 2 years ago

Money doesn't fix trauma, and childhood trauma is rarely fully healed. The kids did nothing wrong, and you should feel bad for them.

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HubertManne 27 points 2 years ago

yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.

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iAmTheTot 7 points 2 years ago

They aren't theoretical, he did have children.

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sunzu2 13 points 2 years ago
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HubertManne 1 point 2 years ago

Well I did not know so until this moment for me it was theoretical. It does not matter but now I know.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 15 points 2 years ago

Don't forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who've lost children.

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uberdroog 13 points 2 years ago

Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht...

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_cryptagion 13 points 2 years ago
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Toneswirly 78 points 2 years ago

Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.

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nondescripthandle 78 points 2 years ago

The shot heard round the boardroom

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chunkystyles 31 points 2 years ago

Plural. Hopefully.

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zbyte64 15 points 2 years ago

But that might actually solve climate change

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granolabar 13 points 2 years ago

oil execs don't even pretend to be one of us... they roll around with full security detail...

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Ottomade 73 points 2 years ago

It's bi-partisan too. Which makes this infinitely more insane

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tabular 64 points 2 years ago

One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.

A rule for arbitrarily deleting any post on an ill-defined idea that some topics are not political. Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?

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Passerby6497 45 points 2 years ago

One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.

That is such a stupid rule, because everything is politics.

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orrk -58 points 2 years ago

that's some literal communist thinking there mate.

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LePoisson 38 points 2 years ago

I don't think you know the definition of the words "literal" and "communism" if that's what you think.

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orrk 0 points 2 years ago

I guess the idea of material reality isn't part of communism, good to know.

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spujb 28 points 2 years ago

i don’t know if you noticed what site you are on, most people here are at the very least friendly with the notion of communism even if you were right about this

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DragonTypeWyvern 19 points 2 years ago

And they aren't right, to be clear.

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orrk 2 points 2 years ago

they may be friendly with the notion of communism, but apparently don't know much about communist ideology, because according to dialectical materialism, yes everything is political, from where you work, what you have/use, the food on your plate, and even the thoughts you think are all inherently tied to politics as politics is the ordering of society, and society is a core and indispensable part of the human condition

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KairuByte 17 points 2 years ago

Can you list something non political?

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Birch 2 points 2 years ago

Your mom!

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DragonTypeWyvern -6 points 2 years ago

Broccoli.

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dragonfucker -14 points 2 years ago

Anarchism. Anarchism is just people working together to topple unjust states with violence if need be. No need for voting or governments or corporations to get involved.

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Lemminary 2 points 2 years ago

How?

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orrk 1 point 2 years ago

material conditions mean everything, every action you take, every opportunity you have, every thing you buy, literally all of it, is influenced by politics.

Politics is simply the organization of society, and as a human without society you have nothing, you would have to slave away for years just to make a standard no°2 pencil, and even that is influenced by politics because it takes a society to raise a person.

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can 21 points 2 years ago

Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?

No one who thinks that hard is still moderating at reddit.

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sunzu2 6 points 2 years ago
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cm0002 58 points 2 years ago

Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won't as it's now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you've seen The First 48)

But if he does, it's going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn't heard of JURY NULLIFICATION

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krashmo 39 points 2 years ago

48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time

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BigDiction 37 points 2 years ago

First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.

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Grimy 16 points 2 years ago

At this point, I don't even think they want to catch him anymore. He's already being talked about as a hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.

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sudo 7 points 2 years ago

If they catch him they will kill him.

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spirinolas 6 points 2 years ago

Exactly. There's no way they'll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he's dead. The "how" they'll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They'll come up with something, mark my words.

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TheEighthDoctor 2 points 2 years ago

He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there

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Chekhovs_Gun 3 points 2 years ago

And then they'll kill him while waiting for a trial.

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TheEighthDoctor 5 points 2 years ago

But the world would know it was murder and not "resisting arrest"

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Sam_Bass 55 points 2 years ago

Well, the news is now out that these corporate fatcats are not as untouchable as they think

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Shadywack 48 points 2 years ago

Good, the spineless hand wringing bootlicking fucking scumbags are losing. Wonderful to see.

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Anarki_ 47 points 2 years ago

I think this is as funny as the next person but realistically what will change?

Won't they just elect another scumbag and keep going?

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newDayRocks 61 points 2 years ago

At least some health insurance companies are temporarily easing up on denials or pausing shitty policies like limiting anthensia coverage during surgery.

That alone could save a few hundred lives, even if just for a little while.

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LandedGentry 11 points 2 years ago
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btaf45 1 point 2 years ago

What a deranged thing to attempt by BCBS.

It was Anthem.

Edit:

My bad. Anthem is BCBS.

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wabafee 43 points 2 years ago

I think it's a precedent, CEOs actually have something to fear aside from their job. Which usually fails upward with a good serverance package. This is also a sign that the Government and the laws of the land no longer works for the people. It's a good and a bad thing either way. Personally I think it's a huge mistake we made companies as a person. I think this is were the root cause is. Since it disconnects the accountability of the people working especially the higher ups.

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lennivelkant 39 points 2 years ago

Hard to predict.

This act broke the taboo against violence and shattered the perception of powerlessness. Turns out there is something you can do against these assholes, and it's not as unpopular an option as you might have expected.

It may inspire imitation, emboldening other pissed victims. It may scare the other CEOs into treading more carefully. It might embolden progressive politicians to challenge the status quo, now that they see how popular that can be.

Or it might end up a big ball of hot air that doesn't do anything. Like I said, hard to predict.

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Pyr_Pressure 28 points 2 years ago

Nothing will change unless it becomes a recurring and common thing.

How many people can actually pull off a successful assassination of a wealthy person? Not many, especially now that security is going to go up.

Nothing will change, but at least that one guy got some revenge.

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100_kg_90_de_belin 27 points 2 years ago

The assassination reminded us that they are not some sort of incorporeal beings, but that they can be killed.

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Scrollone 16 points 2 years ago

Not if something also happens to the next one and the following one and so on.

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ericbomb 5 points 2 years ago

I mean that's a fair thought.

But even by USA capitalist standards, this specific man was a monster who in a just world wouldn't be allowed to be in charge of anything. The world is slightly better off without such a greedy and heartless man in it.

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frayedpickles 1 point 2 years ago

Yes, your advocating for killing the entire board of directors is the right move. Another route would be to kill off all of the large institutional investors like fidelity, JP Morgan etc who put that board in place. But that's about where the buck stops. Sadly those people are better at being faceless so it's harder, but it would also work for all public companies (for example Boeing, or John Deere, or all of the other more notably evil companies lately)

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stevedice 1 point 2 years ago

Well, if you don't wanna celebrate a monster dying just for the sake of it, we can look at it from an environnent perspective, taking that pos out did more for the environnent than Green Peace has in the last 10 years.

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Bishma 44 points 2 years ago

I'm not celebrating, I just think we should have a massive "Enjoy hell, Brian" wake, on the scale of Boston after the Red Sox won the world series for the first time in 80-something years. But nationwide.

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jabathekek 31 points 2 years ago

Kind of like being anywhere in Scotland when Margaret Thatcher died.

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Katana314 43 points 2 years ago

I've been pretty impressed that the shooter has so far evaded police. I can only imagine that there have been at least one or two incidents thus far where people, be it cops or witnesses, had a clear opportunity to take actions that would lead to his immediate capture, but decided not to.

From what I know, cops often rely on the cooperation of the public to resolve crimes, but they may not be getting any on this one.

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sdcSpade 42 points 2 years ago

Why contain it? Let it spill over to the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.

  • Bob Page, 2052
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granolabar 46 points 2 years ago

Let it spill over to the schools and churches,

That's what the regime wants, whoever executed topic of the current discussion knew that they could tap this raw anger.

Note how witness was left alone... if he killed the witness, this would be a different story.

Clean murder of a corporate parasite, galvanized the public. Zero tears shed, people are celebrating.

There is a lesson for the elites in this... but they won't learn it. They will regroup and oppression will get worse. They will use full force of the state against working people.

This is just the start.

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peopleproblems 16 points 2 years ago

And they will somehow think that they escape unscathed.

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ninekeysdown 16 points 2 years ago

Yeap, the more they squeeze the more people will have less to loose. Now that it’s been done once people see it’s possible. People see how it’s being celebrated. Hopefully this will replace shoot shootings. Because politicians don’t care about dead kids but they’ll as hell care about CEOs being merc’d. Maybe we’ll get some meaningful reforms out of this and change some business practices too.

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peopleproblems 4 points 2 years ago

I just want to say I haven't seen "merc'd" used quite so eloquently before, well done.

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RangerJosie 38 points 2 years ago
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jatone 24 points 2 years ago
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RangerJosie 54 points 2 years ago

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jatone 4 points 2 years ago

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zbyte64 36 points 2 years ago

News@lemmy.world deleted a spicy post from a couple days ago. The fediverse isn't immune but it definitely fares better.

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skillissuer 38 points 2 years ago

LW is worst at this, they also banned piracy community early on

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curbstickle 24 points 2 years ago

Because they did not, and still dont, know the laws associated. And rather than actually consult a lawyer, they became armchair experts.

I am not surprised by the LW mods. Its expected.

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granolabar 6 points 2 years ago

I am pretty sure .world is paid by the people connected to media/politcal establishment hence why we get a lot of modding similar to reddit.

Although, reddit lost control of asylum, i never seen so much raw hate.

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solrize 4 points 2 years ago

They banned talking about the wrong kind of cat food, for Pete's sake. I'm still not over that one.

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frostysauce 2 points 2 years ago

And I'll proudly wear my ban from there.

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Windex007 34 points 2 years ago

Why the fuck would the moderators care about how much work it is to remove the posts.

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TVA 37 points 2 years ago

One of the mods said (in the article) that to their knowledge it's mostly the paid admins removing it not the unpaid moderators.

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Windex007 39 points 2 years ago

The quote I was referencing is this:

“People - Please don't make the life of your mods a living hell. Anything that is celebrating violence is going to get taken down - if not from us, then from reddit. I think all the mods understand that there is a high level of frustration and antipathy towards insurance and insurance execs, but we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good. We are a public group of medical professionals, we still need to act like that.”

The line about making their lives a living hell?

If you ever feel the need to type that in reference to your volunteer Reddit moderation... Stand up, go outside.

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piecat 26 points 2 years ago

Imagine letting an unpaid position on social media "make life hell"

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homesweethomeMrL 12 points 2 years ago

Well, first of all fuck reddit, but secondly: if you appreciate actual human moderation in any significant sense - it's hard work.

Getting paid to do it is rare (again - fuck reddit, they should get off of there) but on any site that's actually trying to honestly build or host a community it takes time to check the reports, message the people, log the entry all that shit. It's a huge pain in the ass when something blows up, which is why neither you or I will likely ever be mods. When it's the scale of reddit it's bound to be a lot of scrambling until shit cools off again.

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Windex007 1 point 2 years ago

To be honest, I actually don't really appreciate human moderation, so that's probably biasing my position.

I can block communities. I can block users. I can set word filters.

If I block someone, I never have to hear from them again. If a moderator does, they'll be back with a new account, and then I DO have to hear from them.

I'd far prefer a "federated" and crowdsourced mechanism to layer onto an extremely lightly moderated foundational layer.

If someone, or someones, want to curate a filter list that aligns with my sensibilities, awesome, I'll opt in. I'll contribute. If I bump into unresolvable issues with other filter curators I'll fork the filter.

I don't need or want a tiny subset of users working full time for free getting burnt out or going on power trip crusades.

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sunzu2 1 point 2 years ago
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Shdwdrgn 9 points 2 years ago

If someone is directly responsible for the deaths of millions of people and the courts hold the position that corporate profits outweigh human life, then yeah eventually someone is going to take matters into their own hands. The real question is, will this become a trend? For example, would anyone really be upset if all the would-be school shooters look at this as an example of how their frustrations could be used to make a real difference in the world? Imagine if CEOs were suddenly afraid of real-world consequences when their greed hurts people?

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sunzu2 14 points 2 years ago
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Fermion 5 points 2 years ago

If the admins feel like mods aren't doing enough to keep a sub within reddits guidelines, they may remove mods or even ban the subreddit entirely.

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eran_morad 22 points 2 years ago
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fl42v 17 points 2 years ago

Who would've guessed reddit mods couldn't grow a pair even if presented with a ball-growing pill

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skillissuer 35 points 2 years ago

In fact, a moderator from a subreddit we hadn’t reached out to for comment reached out because they heard we were contacting moderators to speak about this. They said every instance they were aware of of the surveillance video of Thompson’s death being removed had not been moderators—who, as a reminder, are unpaid volunteers—but Reddit’s paid administrator team that enforces the sitewide terms of use.

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fl42v 4 points 2 years ago

Sure, I've read both that and r/nursing parts; but I'm talking about those volunteers who do remove that stuff. I mean, yeah, promoting violence bad, and so on, but maybe the twatwaffles who refuse to build a proper universal healthcare system need to see that ppl support the shooter, and not the attempts of the community to censor itself?

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 16 points 2 years ago

Good. Let the celebration continue.

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zbyte64 15 points 2 years ago

Shareholders can't stop talking about this one trick to make their stocks go up.

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Milksteaks 5 points 2 years ago

UHC cuts costs by $13 million, find out why CEOs hate this one simple trick

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lambalicious 14 points 2 years ago

Mods should be joining in on the celebration instead, in particular unpaid / community ones like Reddi's.

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Aatube 7 points 2 years ago path: 0 13830795 13831374, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
cupcakezealot 13 points 2 years ago

just wait until tr*mp kills section 230

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HubertManne 13 points 2 years ago

unsuccessfully.

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reksas 12 points 2 years ago

first shot of the revolution

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bender223 9 points 2 years ago

GOOD! #good

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daggermoon 7 points 2 years ago

Is anything remotely likely to change as a result of this on a systemic level or otherwise?

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Test_Tickles 47 points 2 years ago

Maybe some future school shooter wannabe will notice that they barely even report on school shootings anymore, and Uvalde even reelected the piece of shit sheriff that let all those kids die. Maybe they will see this shooter being treated like some kind of hero, and decide to hunt Billionaires or CEOs instead.
After enough of those, the world will be drastically improved, or the surviving billionaires will finally bring about some real gun control legislation.

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Glasgow 27 points 2 years ago

Elons carrying his kids around as human shields so there’s that.

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infinite_ass 1 point 2 years ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but Elon did nothing to compare with what Brian did.

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Glasgow 5 points 2 years ago

Elon has really helped ramped up the societal breakdown by messing with the x algorithm. People are losing the plot.

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infinite_ass 0 points 2 years ago

That's pretty far from causing the suffering and death of thousands, right?

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djsoren19 20 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure, but locals tagged "Deny, Defend, Depose" near me. If nothing else, seems there'll be good branding made of it.

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LovableSidekick 6 points 2 years ago

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess nope. What do I win?

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superkret 6 points 2 years ago

TIL Reddit has paid employees, for what they call the "modcoc team".

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Dremor 5 points 2 years ago

Went to the post, posted a laughing emoji. I'm French.

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jordanlund 4 points 2 years ago

The poor News mods here are looking forward to mundane Spam removals at this point.

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frostysauce 5 points 2 years ago

Fuck 'em.

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harmsy 3 points 2 years ago

Insurance companies hate this one weird trick! Find out more at spamwebsite.tk!

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SmilingSolaris 2 points 2 years ago

How about mundane spelling mistake bans?

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bizarroland 3 points 2 years ago

My only concern is that I hope this doesn't become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 53 points 2 years ago

If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.

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sunzu2 22 points 2 years ago
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FaceDeer 30 points 2 years ago

Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?

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frostysauce 8 points 2 years ago

I think you're underestimating the amount of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" out there.

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Wahots 2 points 2 years ago

Over half the country voted for trump, the man who will make everything worse and who appeals to people's most base instincts. Some of the worst mass shootings were under Trump.

I don't think violence will necessarily be contained to Democrats and old style Republicans. The new right likes corruption, which includes POS health insurance companies.

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MeekerThanBeaker 20 points 2 years ago

But how...? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it's the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I'm sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as "the enemy of my enemy" type deal.

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sunzu2 25 points 2 years ago
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gsfraley 23 points 2 years ago

Yeah, even the MAGA people I know are like "aight, cool"

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KingThrillgore 8 points 2 years ago

Until Fox News tells them otherwise.

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skillissuer 7 points 2 years ago

united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?

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pivot_root 2 points 2 years ago

They united the people against them. That's living up to half the name, I guess.

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KingThrillgore 3 points 2 years ago

Why contain it? S'cool.

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Guilherme 2 points 2 years ago

Serious? People are reacting with laughing emojis? Really?

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

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DancingBear -1 points 2 years ago
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General_Effort -13 points 2 years ago

.world is in the EU. The same laws that apply to inciting hate or violence against "The Jews" or "The Blacks" also apply to "The CEOs". And the same laws that apply to Facebook also apply to lemmy.

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LovableSidekick -25 points 2 years ago

Everybody who sees the hitman as a social justice vigilante is gonna report back here when we find out it was some personal bullshit, right?

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spacesatan 20 points 2 years ago

Oh no, stop, don't do the right thing for the wrong reason

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Kit 10 points 2 years ago

What "personal bullshit" would lead to Deny, Depose, Defend?

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SparrowHawk 6 points 2 years ago

Yes it was fucking personal. Maybe he lost someone because of the company. Either way social justice IS personal, for all of us. Wether you believe it or not, injustice affects all of us

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Squirrelanna 3 points 2 years ago

What do you mean? I hope it was personal too. I'm already experiencing the catharsis vicariously.

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frayedpickles 2 points 2 years ago

If it turns out he was a shareholder disappointed with his latest dividend, yes I would be sad. That's my line.

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