Crypto really is the astrology of white guys isn't it.
Crypto really is the astrology of white guys isn't it.
To my understanding white isn't really a race.

We kind of just like... pick and choose who ever we want to consider white.

I suspect if I went around saying Russians are white people like Americans like South Africans, and like French people. Many people would give me the: 🤨
Finally. These are some of my favorite kind of white girls.

I prefer dark hair but I am a sucker for pale skin.
I remember when in my undergrad almost my entire class spent their entire second year learning about blockchain and attending events related to it, and I was proud of myself for playing videogames all day instead. Nobody even talks about blockchain anymore. It's a waste of compute, and most things built on top of it are a grift. There must be some useful cases, but none I can think of. Maybe someone with more experience in Industry can.
This might be controversial but hear me out:
The idea of an international independent currency that can be made use of anonymously and therefore not controlled by anyone is a great idea.
Most smaller coins are just scams, reimplementing the same protocols that earlier schemes did and eventually adopting a clear pump & dump characteristic.
However, I personally believe that bigger coins like etherium that don't fold as quickly and stick around are genuinely a good idea.
Moreover, there's use cases where transactions are tracked for different systems, for example tracking an interconnected energy grid and usage of households.
And then you also have to consider that block-chains themselves can just be used to keep a fulsome record of something, with the main goal of decentralizing control over that record. I'm sure there will be quite a few use cases for it that make more sense and it's quite a shame the stigma of crypto got attached to it.
If you wanna learn more about how block chains are actually researched, you have to dive into academic publications, but then you will find out scientists have a very different vision for this technology which is way more useful. And for the sake of actual science, I hope they don't get buried under the stigma of crypto, because oftentimes these are just very smart people with lots of passion for something that they genuinely see value in.
First of all, it's not guaranteed that it'll say "not controlled by anyone". For example the arms race of something like bitcoin mining leads to mining becoming unprofitable to anyone not building massive mining farms. The efficiency of mining leads to bigger control over the proof of work so there's a natural centralization of control happening with proof of work. And proof of stake isn't saving anyone either because that just opens the door to a different kind of centralization of control. Give it another 50 years and currencies like etherium will also be centralized. With all of the negatives and none of the benefits of centralization.
And that's the other point, I don't think an internationally independent currency is that great of an idea. At least I don't think it's better than a currency with a central authority. For example central authorities manage the inflation (or in case of crypto currencies the deflation) of the currency to keep is stable and usable. Central authority also keeps oversight of illegal activities, the lack of that oversight is why crypto is popular with the black market. You also get certain consumer-protections which you're unlikely to get with crypto because there's no authority to enforce them, for example if your account gets hacked or stolen you're fucked while banks would freeze your account and reverse transactions. And of course there's taxation, which I can't imagine how that would even happen with crypto.
I'm not saying blockchain itself is a useless technology, but I have don't believe it's usable as a currency. I also have some serious reservations in its use elsewhere because I have a hard time imagining where it would be better than a traditional database solution.
Yeah, Blockchain is really the prime example of a solution looking for a problem. Everything you can do with Blockchain can be easier done using less ressources with other techniques. It sounds fine on paper, and as you said there might be some esoteric use for it someday in the future.
If the blockchain already exists and used the resources yes it was horrible. But what really is the argument to say it's bad to use the one already generated. You don't have to use any more resources to make it. Essentially copy paste of a prime number that was already found right? Maybe I don't understand how they work well enough
Proud to be ignorant and play video games rather than learn. Perhaps if you actually got an education you’d know better.
You missed the context that they were proud to avoid learning about a technology that ended up being a waste of time. I imagine they would have preferred going to class and learning about something real, it sounds like they just skipped the blockchain stuff. They're flexing about being more prescient than most of his peers (and professors!), and they're not wrong. 90% of strategy is knowing what not to do.
The Manosphere/alpha/beta/sigma BS is the real astrology for guys. Crypto is not a pseudo science its just gambling.
Yeah I agree the manosphere is more analogous to astrology, but I’m also guessing there’s a much higher percentage of manosphere believers that never actually go on dates to even discuss their ideas and culty beliefs, compared to any blockchain based technology, which almost all actively dating douchebags participate in and no doubt talked about on actual dates.
The amount of times I've asked a crypto bro to tell me exactly what The Blockchain is and them being able to actually lucidly explain it is exactly 0, in my experience.
I know there's science somewhere in there, but the loudest enthusiasts I've come across treat it like magic.
it's not magic, it's just really boring and stupid if you explain it well.
it's just a decentralized authentication network built on cryptography algorithms. but i guess if you don't know what any of those words mean it seems mysterious. you need a baseline understanding of networking and cryptography, and well, very few people have that.
and people attribute financial value to each bitcoin (or whatever coin), which is just a piece of code you uniquely possess when it is in your 'wallet'.
It's really not that interesting unless you're specifically into cryptography, and then it's like, kind of interesting for 20 minutes. I remember when "the blockchain" first came out people were talking about lots of potential uses (secure online voting was the only one that comes to mind) besides scamming people and selling illegal stuff, but of course none of those ever materialized.
This made me look up astrology crypto and I tremendously regret it
We've both been wronged.
A friend set me up on a date with a coworker of him. then she spent about 20 minutes drawing my astral chart. She had notes, books and even an iPad app.
Eventually she concluded we were not compatible, while I concluded the same thing about 20 seconds in.
Yeah, I ain't putting up with that either. People can have their beliefs, but getting my head screwed on straight was a hard fought, lifelong journey. I cannot go back.
Bro dodged a bullet 💀
And wtf, what's that shit of judging a person you don't ever know just because of some crazy cards bs.
I'm a woman, I have no patience for pseudoscience.
I'm a Gemini actually
Just what a Gemini would say!
have you ever had anyone argue with you about your star sign?
I have, it was wild. They insisted my DOB was wrong and I was totally a Capricorn. They also argued with me that my job was awful and unfulfilling, despite me saying I enjoyed it. That was also bizarre.
I'm okay
It's tough having no patience for pseudoscience in 2026
That's how anyone should be!
I like to think of astrology as a fine grained personality shorthand like Meyers Briggs.
the magical star-assigned fixed personality is dumb. what's useful is being able to tell Becky to stop being such a Capricorn and come out and party, even if she is a cancer or whatever. it's just a memey way to reference behavioral traits if your friend group already knows what they mean. i don't know how to explain this any better
I like to think of personality tests like Meyers Briggs as pseudoscientific nonsense like astrology
Early in our dating, my wife had me take the enneagram test. I got a 2, she’s a 9. I told her I found a page detailing relationships between 2’s and 9’s and some of the strengths and weaknesses we’d navigate as a couple.
As I was reading it she kept saying, at first, “That makes sense!” Or “Yeah I can see that.” There were a few that were kind of out there. But she kept listening.
Eventually I revealed to her that I was ACTUALLY reading a page detailing relationships between a dragon and a sheep, our respective Chinese Zodiac signs. And that I was using this to support my argument that personality tests are astrology for educated people.
Still ended up getting laid, though not that day. 😅
because they are
nobody takes them seriously other than teenagers and other emotionally immature folks.
Personally I do find it interesting, when people do tell their Myers-Briggs -test results, since it can tell about, what sort of a person they want to be. But it is not scientific in the slightest.
It's clearly pseudoscientific nonsense. But it's easier to say "I'm a pisces" instead of "I'm feeling hesitant about the future of our relationship, Sarah" if she is into that. The value is in being able to reference loose personality archetypes without having to spend a paragraph describing someone.
But being a Pisces doesn't mean anything, does it? It could both mean being someone who is afraid of risks and someone who is bold and takes chances.
How is it easier?
The problem is that you're not really referencing "loose personality archetypes" in these sorts of conversations, they're being assigned to you, relatively arbitrarily. It doesn't matter if I'm serious and thoughtful, but because I was born on the third moon after the pomegranate harvest, I'm the joker of the group.
You forgot the part about how it's determined by giant balls of gas millions of light years away that aren't actually arranged in neat patterns, but are actually incredibly far from one another and only look like patterns from our specific position in the universe
That argument falls flat to me simply because there are 13 zodiac signs, not 12, and ancient (and modern) astrologers simply ignore the 13th one (Ophiuchus) for convenience.
If you are going to claim the stars have influence over our personalities, at least be consistent with how you “read” said stars.
Not to mention, there is zero evidence that astrology works.
Also, at the time most of the zodiac and star chart arrangements were plotted out, the Earth had an entirely different north star than it does now. So your modern star sign would not even be consistent with the ancient charts and star signs, yet somehow all the same definitions and assumptions are supposed to apply.
I can appreciate that view point as long as we are in agreement that there is no real science behind it. I can totally see how people use “I’m such a Pisces” to describe themselves as sensitive and emotional. I just wish they would say “I’m sensitive and emotional” instead, lol.
That's such a Gemini thing to say.
The stars. Keep up with the conversation!
according to some folks, taking responsibility for your behavior is a shitty thing to do.
yeah but you get laid more if you agree to blame nebulous abstract concepts for personal and social grievances.
or blame their parents.... that always works too.
I will choose to make fun of it at every chance. Fortunately my girlfriend doesn't mind, so I can also still get laid.
I have a pretty large, coed friend group, and roughly 50% of the women are into astrology, while none of the men are. Personally, I could never date someone who took astrology seriously. Fortunately, unlike this meme tries to paint them, there are many women who don't take astrology seriously.
my wife "believed" in astrology before and while we were first dating. she used it as an easy way to weed out which guys couldn't get over themselves over a trivial difference in perspective and figure out how to compromise.
turns out we would both read the astrology section of the newspaper growing up and giggle about how wrong it was. she just figured out a way to use it to find the right people.
Oh this is definitely the case. When I was younger, I was definitely the kind of guy to publicly ridicule things like astrology, and I learned that would make me no friends. Today I'd much rather surround myself with people who act kind to each other and accept each other. Y'all are totally on that same page.
yup. my idiot brother consciously made it his personality to dislike everything. he still can't figure out why he doesn't have friends. i've tried explaining how you build closer relationships over stuff you like rather than stuff you dislike. he doesn't like that.
Or just don't try to get laid with stupid people.
Dated a girl and, while we were walking through the park, she points up at the sky. "Oh look, Chemtrails". I absolutely bust up laughing, because I assume I've accidentally stepped into a relationship with a conspiracy theorist. She looks incredibly confused. I explain what chemtrails are. She gets even more confused. We whip out our phones for a minute. She says, "Omg I meant contrails"
She's a lawyer at a white shoe firm now and makes, like, twice as much as I do in IT. Also, absolutely incredible in the sack.
First day of uni. Having lunch with 3 people.
"Hey do any of you watch my little pony?"
I burst out laughing. Turns out guy was super serious. He was convincing enough that he managed to get me to watch half of friendship is magic before I decided i would never talk to him again.
LOL that's a fantastic story.
There are more stupid people than non-stupid people.
Getting laid is a numbers game. You vastly reduce your chances if you start getting picky.
But maybe, just maybe, and I know I'm talking crazy here, but maybe if you weed out the ones that aren't worthwhile your quality will go up.
for a lot of people being picky means they will never get laid. and that's fine, if you can accept that.
but they don't. they are enraged by the lack of 'quality' people available to them. and offended by the abundance of low quality people available to them.
the idea you can 'raise your standards' and get 'better results', in dating/mating, is mostly cope. Especially when you start looking at the statistics. truth is people really should lower them, and well, humble themselves. because most folks aren't nearly as 'hot' as they perceive themselves to be.
it's also highly subjective. I attract a lot of very desirable women, but they aren't desirable to me due to my own biases and lifestyle preferences. Just yesterday I got like half dozen likes from women on Hinge, but they all worked in finance or pharma, so I rejected them because for me working in those industries means 'low quality' just like believe in astrology. But if I wanted to get laid? Yeah I should get over that bias, those type of women really like me, even though I hate them. And I only developed this bias due to my younger years... repeatedly trying to date them and running into the same miserable issues again and again.
Them being stupid makes em hotter. They fuck like they got smth to prove
Oh sorry, only 43% of women aged 18-49, I guess 43% is nowhere near half. I suppose if you're a granny chaser then it is indeed only a quarter. If you're into LGBT folks, it actually goes above 50% (over 60% for LGBT women).
Since my own dating pool and most of my friendships are smack dab in the middle of that 18-49 demographic, I can tell you it's easily around half of women around that age who believe in astrology, tarot or something else similar here in Estonia, so it's not US specific either. Including a lot of otherwise very intelligent women. A master's degree in a STEM field for example does not discourage one from believing in astrology by any means.
Or perhaps you just don't know enough women?
Oh and men aren't all innocent either. A fifth of men aged 18-49 believe in astrology or similar superstitions too. Less than half as many as women, but still a significant amount.
We really need to distinguish between "stupid" opinions and "stupid" people.
Very smart people can hold very stupid opinions in some aspects and the average person will certainly hold some stupid ass opinions not necessarily restricted to "spirituality".
My uncle was top of his class but fell for every mlm he encounterd, my dad is a capable businessman but believes a cut up onion in the window will get all viruses out of the air. I have so many examples like that.
So half of women aren't stupid but probably 100% of all people hold at least one stupid "believe" i think.
Then yeah, they're stupid. Any problem?
And 100% of gamers have pressed the randomize button to at the start of a game to see if it's something they can identify with.
Consulting Tarot has as much to do with thinking it's scientifically real as flipping a coin has to do with making objective decisions.
Astrology and personality tests that get sold to businesses and a ton of other "fake" things all work the same way: they propose things that are frequently or universally true and then invite people to look at in what ways they agree with them or how they fit current situations.
Calling these things fake is the same as saying the personal reflections of people aren't real.
Half of everyone really. The average person is a fucking moron.
I don't disagree, but it's twice as common among women. That's why there's a stereotype in the first place.
Yeah, and the women who believe in astrology are dumb.
But there are men who don't believe in it but have some other crackpot/spiritual nonsense to fill in that 30% gap.
I use Arch btw.
Associating operating systems/kernels with sexuality, hmmmmm... What would you assign to these?
edit: made list numbered
Straight
Femboys
Straight dude who thinks acting gay would get him invited to girl sleepovers.
A pansexual who's also Aromatic.
The straight guy who's into grannies.
The guy who thinks they have a type, but their type would never date them.
8.Aeroace but would set you up with their friend
The gay who only wants to top
Old grandad gay. Someone who wasn't shy boning dudes back when they would've been executed for it.
12 The kinda gay who would only hangout with people over 40.
The bisexual who didn't care exploring further cause they live in conservative environment(relatable)
The guy who thinks applying nailpolish makes him gay.
Hmmm, you are missing a few... also, PureDarwin is basically MacOS (you described "femboy") with stereotypical linux userland (you described "gay"), I wonder how you got "straight" from that...
GreenteaOS too!
At a glance: is this another ReactOS but with .js files in the repo? Why the fuck?
I'm straight, been married 32 years, and my wife hates astrology. There's no dilemma.
Hating astrology is such a leo thing
I did see a Gatorade recall today so there very well could be mercury in Gatorade
Mercury is in retrograde, Mars and Saturn coloring apparently was not screened for... So they got flagged
i roll my eyes at astrology but generally don't mind a little "folk wisdom" if it helps people deal with the world, though of course it often doesn't actually really help and just obscures the real reasons behind things.
kinda similar to how i think a sincere belief in religion might actually help someone in many cases, but can also veil the world and make it less accessible.
in the same vein is also folk or traditional medicine. i bet there are good insights in there, but also just a lot of bs. difficult to sift for gold.
how do you feel when it actively makes the world a worse place?
because a lot of these folks believe in anti-vaccination and other crazy stuff that is actively harming other people and themselves.
then it's harmful and should probably be stopped. ideally you'd have empirically verified folk wisdom, but then it isn't folk wisdom anymore, just science.
I don't know if the website has been updated recently, but http://www.whatstheharm.net/astrology.html has a pretty good record of the harm various pseudosciences have caused.
This site needs a page on the harm caused by not using HTTPS
One could build a similar site about all the harm medicine has caused also, (and I'm sure there is one out there). That doesn't stop anyone from seeing a doctor when they are sick.
Anything can be used in a harmful way to cause ill to others. All it takes is the want to and a bit of creativity and a slick story.
I mean, every single of these entries isn't caused by astrology but by other nonsense.
People fled because there was a warning of a cyclone, not because they believed in astrology.
Numerology is not astrology. People believing in witches is not astrology. Scammers will use anything including astrology.
And if those are the only examples, it really is less harmful then people make out.
the problem is people are willing to commit violence for beliefs.
not so much empirically verified science.
Yeah man, I hear about those roving gangs of astrology girlies murdering people like all the time
I don't think astrology begets antivax beliefs, though they do both fall under the woo-woo alternative health/spirituality umbrella. I know people who are into one or the other but not necessarily both.
it doesn't.
but woo-woo beliefs are infiltrating every aspect of life, including places where they do not belong, like public health and the justice system. and that's problematic for everyone.
In a college classroom with only women, we did a student survey that asked how many believe in astrology. It was 50%.
I'm curious how that boils down in a coed institution, or a research 1 school or something.
Of all the non-scientific things to believe in, astrology is one of the weirdest. Especially if you’re talking about ancient astrology, come on now… the sky has changed significantly in eg 2000 years, how could you make any conclusions based on that? Or the figures drawn from groups of stars, constellations, that are not even remotely close to each other if you look from another viewpoint?
But I guess it’s even worse… I guess most people talk about their magazine horoscopes, that aren’t even written by actual astrologers :(
As has been pointed out many times the configuration of the solar system today is completely different to the configuration of the solar system on this date precisely 365 days ago, because the orbit of the Earth has very little to do with all the other planets. So even if the locations of random astronomical objects, but not others because they don't count obviously, have an impact on my personality why are all libras the same, how does that work?
This was foretold! “Today, you might run into a kind stranger asking you a question that you maybe answer with a touch of silliness.”
Well… their photons do reach our planet after sometimes thousands of lightyears’ travel… I will call that impressive.
Or he could find a woman who's not superstitious, or go gay.
You just decide. Everybody knows it's a choice
I upvoted, hoping you were sarcastic.
Fake it 'til you make it ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Top or bottom, depends how you are feeling.
It's a vers. Switches are between dominant and submissive
Conversion therapy
I've heard that a huge percentage of people have latent homosexual/ bisexual/pansexual leanings. So just lean into it I guess.
Hmm?
What does that even mean in this context, "latent"?
You mean "unexplored"? If I'm a "latent" homosexual, it just means I'm homosexual, no? So if by "go" you mean "be true to myself", then fine, I guess?
But if I'm bi, or straight, I can't just turn off my attraction to the opposite sex to "go gay".
Please correct me if I'm wrong, non-straight, non-gay people! Is it possible to just flip your attractions off? Sincerely, cis straight male who's earnestly trying to be as woke as possible and educate myself to be accurate and inclusive.
the gays seem even more into astrology…
I used to be a bit of a dick about astrology. I still think it's nonsense, but now I kinda view it as a structure for people to explore their own emotions and as a kind of authority struct to get people to treat those emotions as valid. Ultimately I feel like its no different than me sharing emo song lyrics with an "omg they understand me frfr" type message. Maybe the astrology believer isn't upset because Venus is in retrograde or whatever, but they are upset their emotions are valid. I don't gain anything from being a wet blanket about scientific accuracy in that situation, and they feel like I am invalidating their emotions if I choose to be that scientifically accurate wet blanket. Plus, retrograde is a dope word and I'm not sure if I'd know it if not for the crystal girls I've dated
yes. they want to feel their emotions are valid. even if they aren't. Astrology and other theoretical systems also take the locus of control out of their own authority and place it in a higher authority to which they are subjected.
and therein lies the problem. not every emotion is valid. some emotions are invalid. but if you aren't responsible for the causes of your emotions... you're not responsible for figuring out which ones are valid or invalid. they are something that happens to you, not something you control.
and happy well-adjusted folks... learn to figure out which is which, and unhappy folks... can't or won't do this. and a huge part of therapeutic processes is ... learning to identify and assess your own emotional states and whether or not to act on them.
Explains why I'm horribly unhappy I have Alexithymia.
Don't believe in astrology though.
(Edit: also emotions can't be "valid" or "invalid" they're just the source of your motivations really.)
Emotions can be based in reality. Or they can be based in false perceptions of reality.
That's what makes them valid or invalid.
Your fear of the boogeyman in the closet is invalid. Your fear of the drunk driver weaving around you on the highway is valid.
Of course, if you don't believe reality exists, or that reality is entirely derivation of your emotions, then yeah, you should be very very afraid and you should invest in anti-boogeyman man traps to put in your closet so he can't get you at night.
But of course, most of us would consider people who believe in boogeymen to be delusional. Delusion is a symptom of psychological problems. And delusional folks think it's everyone else who is insane for not seeing the Boogeyman.
people have lots and lots of emotions that are not based in external reality, many are based in fictions they make up in their heads. but of course, being able to recognize and admit that... is not a capability many folks develop. many folks never question their emotions at all.
Theres a not so secret third option, don't date folks that believe in such nonsense.
Nobody said anything about dating
Pretending to believe in astrology to get laid is kind of rapey by today’s standards.
I just hit them with the "Oh wow that's crazy yeah I don't really know much about all of that tbh".
what if you believe but you don't believe as much as the other person?
Save yourself time and don't lie about who you are.
This is also job application advice. If you never smile in real life but you pretend to act bubbly for an entire interview: your ass better bubble like a pro if you're hired.
But ymmv
It's like when you are drunk, but not as much as the other person.
If the guy doesn’t believe as much it’s rape but if the woman doesnt believe as much it’s not.
We have been married for 46 years now. Despite the fact she was into astrology and I listened intensely to her about it in the beginning. It is called learning everything about each other. And if anyone was "rapey", it was her. These days she laughs and says it was the rebellious catholic upbringing in her, (I still call her a recovering Catholic). And that I was oblivious to all the hints she was dropping in front of me.
It all just one of the many shared memories we have together. I wouldn't give any of them up for life itself.
even if i were male and straight, I don't think i could ever respect astrology...
but moreover, it's creepy as fuck for someone to pretend a change in their beliefs just for sex. that's kinda literally false pretense for sex. i know I'd never convince a jury of it, but as far as I'm concerned in my personal life, imagining doing such a thing fills me with revulsion and it crosses the line into sexual assault territory.
you realize it's incredibly common for folks to do this? of any gender?
i broke up with most of my exes because they false presented themselves to me. they saw absolutely nothing wrong with it, and to them I was the one who was awful and terrible for not 'loving and accepting them for who they really are'. i had one ex who specific said 'you'd have never dated me if i had told you the truth'.
was I sexually assaulted by those women? who deliberately lied to me to have sex and engage in a relationship with me?
I don't think very many people would consider what they did as sexual assault.
yes, i do in fact realize that it's incredibly common for folks to be shitty human beings. i have elected to not be like them. because they are shitty. "everyone's doing it" does not make it right.
furthermore, literally all the rest of my post after the first sentence, set aside purposefully with two line breaks, intentionally did not specify or even mention gender. so I'm not sure why you brought it up as it were relevant.
above and beyond standard social contract expectations,
i shall additionally, PERSONALLY decline to perform acts that feel wrong to me,
irrespective of others' opinions.
Well, IME people who talk like you, who boast about how truthful and honest they are, are the same ones who lied.
Weird how that works out, isn't it?
Almost as if folks who boast about how honest and great they are, typically aren't either of those things. And their need to boast is projection/overcompensation for their true behaviors.
The difference is most of them don't believe in any of it. It's just entertaining to them. Find ten people who say like astrology and ask them to make base a life deciding event on it all 10 of them will make the decision on factors outside of astrology.
An easy way to tell, if they ask what month you were born in, they don't believe in astrology... As the months don't line up with the stars.
And then you have people like my own mom who judges, and forms whole opinions about, people based on their astrology signs.
Even if some sort of behaviour completely contradicts their supposed astral sign, she'll make it fit.
were you conceived in an orgy
sounds like a good plot for a movie
Solution: date an astronomer
astrology believers is about 30% of the population. a few billion folks
astronomers are about 0.00016% of the population. (there are only 12,500 globally)
I went on a couple of dates with someone who had a Astronomy PhD, but worked in marketing. Not sure that counts. She did not believe in astrology, but made fun of me for working in research rather than industry.
There's much more interest in science than there are careers in it.
I teach scuba and underwater photography at a major university as a side gig. I have dozens of former students with advanced degrees in aquatic biology who now work in retail.
Yeah, but how many of them come from a family where they were never expected to work or pay their own bills?
At least in my experience of a handful of folks in Marine Biology research... every single one of them.
Working low/minimal wage work isn't so bad if your folks are loaded and you'll just inherent their wealth. It's just a waiting game.
How fucking many? Where the fuck is it 30%? The US? Source?
I'm an expert in this field. i went from atheist YouTube in 2008 to what the trillbillies call "spooky pussy" in 2009 and i have remained in the spooky pussy camp since then, I don't regret it.
well, i regret it a little
what is a trillbilly and what is a spooky pussy?
isnt chapo behind bars?
So what does any of this mean to those out of the loop?
it means that the transition from evangelical child to edgy teen atheist to normal functional adult puts you at a crossroads much like the dichotomy presented in this meme. when i was 19 years old i did indeed have to choose whether to mock spiritual people, or "wrong" people in general. it was in fact a pretty witch who convinced me not to do this, and as a result i spent the next 10 years learning how to be normal to people who do not share one iota of my relationship with truth. Nearly 20 years later i do still enjoy talking to witches, in fact i can't resist it. i maintain a staunch secular humanism, which serves as a narrative anchor for anyone who wants to manipulate me with their magic spells.
I see this wall of text and wonder why "Nearly" is capitalized but no other words are. It's like reverse German. 😆
The learning dictionaries available on F-Droid don't behave as intelligently as Google's stuff. As a result I guess I look like an idiot to the sort of people I would have been.
it was in fact a pretty witch who convinced me not to do this, and as a result i spent the next 10 years learning how to be normal to people
Oh man story of my life. Woah. It often makes me think of the saying...
“As he received his trophy, the plucky quarterback unfolded the story of how he ‘came back’. He said ‘They say behind every great man there’s a woman. While I’m not a great man, there’s a great woman behind me.’”
From my perspective, the Witch in my story doesn't want to talk to me anymore. None the less words cannot express my gratitude for her setting me on the path I am on now. I still feel like I owe her an apology letter. 🤔
tl:dr Males 13-25 stop "teasing" or "joking" rudely with girls and women. You will most likely regret it. Dearly.
The things we'll do for the promise of sex.
Star racism is still racism. I don't make fun of it, I simply reject it as esoteric bigotry.
I mean the word you want is prejudice but sure star racism is a lot catchier and race is a construct anyways.
Prejudice is much too generic imho.
"Races" in racism are (socially constructed, as you said) classes assigned from conception/birth, which racists believe to have class-specific inherited (often behavioural) traits.
The only functional difference between (classical) racism and the (star) racism of astrology is that one claims inheritance via genetics, the other inheritance via "vibes" from star formations.
Yeah, it's deterministic sorting. That's what racism is too. The idea you must possess/lack inherent traits based on your race, for astrology it's your DOB.
MTBI fans also have a lot of this. The websites play into it by pretending some personality combinations are rare, or that any of it is set and doesn't actually change every time you take one of the damn tests, or that you can't force results. So you have the INTJs who definitely think they're better than and smarter than everyone else, or the ENTJs who are categorized as "visionaries" so they're totally going to become a corporate CEO once they're done working on their dad's construction crew. If there are subforums, you'll get to watch people fight over their self-labeled categories.
Also to further your point, there are notable periods of the eastern zodiac where people either try to get pregnant or avoid getting pregnant just because of the good or bad luck attributed to some years. Japan also has an actual word for blood type discrimination (avoiding or not hiring AB or B blood types) called bura-hara.
Yeah, this is what bothers me about it too. It really seems like it's just a low stakes, socially acceptable way to be a bigot.
I ditched someone when she attributed something to her star sign, because I have no interest in a relationship with someone stupid
Astrology, tarot, any religion whatsoever
I'm not going to be able to respect them, and no relationship works without respect
I ditched someone when she attributed something to her star sign, because I have no interest in a relationship with someone stupid
I've just always seen this as a lack of personal accountability, and that's a massive turnoff for me.
Like, no Becky, you're not being a bitch because you're a cancer, but you are a cancer because you're such a bitch.
Honestly while I'm secular myself, this stance would lead to me politely refusing a second date.
Yes astrology is daft, but most of the things you and I believe are daft too or at least only locally true and culturally constructed rather than globally true. I don't care if someone is religious or secular, what I do care is to what extent they believe humanity can know unfiltered truth in the first place. This is a much more important and useful axis in my view than whether they are religious or secular.
In my view no human can know direct truth, they are forced to rely exclusively on the unreliable narrator of their senses and for this reason I don't trust people who make excessively confident claims about the nature of reality at all, whether religious or secular ones.
So when you buy a coffee do you lecture the cashier about how 'culturally constructed' money is, or do you just pay them?
This isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is. I could just as well ask the fedora fanclub how they respond to someone saying 'bless you' when they sneeze. The point is there are local truths and there are global truths, and you don't have undistorted access to the latter. None of us are playing with a full deck.
To use your own example of fiat money, we all know it's a society-wide fiction but it is kept up willingly and enthusiastically for the reason there'd be a very non-fictional economic meltdown if we didn't do that. We are pretending a small-t truth is a capital-T Truth for practical reasons alone. The danger comes when we forget we're doing that and mistake our aggregate belief for reality itself in my opinion.
I cannot stand people who think they are personally exempt from this kind of thing; people who insist their imperfect senses give them full and perfect access to objective truth. These kind of people are dangerous whether they're religious or secular, I would much rather date a superstitious person who was aware most of what they believe is vague and wooly than someone who calls themselves a rationalist and makes these massive sweeping metaphysical judgements about things.
I'm sure that sounded clever in your head
because like half of all women are into astrology
like 45% of them is the latest stat. Only 20% of men believe in it
for me, it's probably 1/3 women who is into it, and they get really really angry with you if you don't take them seriously when they start lecturing you about it.
IME women and men who are into astrology refuse to take accountability for their actions/choices, pathologically.
because like half of all women are into astrology
In the same way that half of all men are into video games, sure.
they get really really angry with you if you don’t take them seriously when they start lecturing you about it
I've definitely had girls explain it to me. And I've stepped in it when I teased one too hard, because she just read me as an obnoxious prick (which... in my early 20s... she wasn't wrong).
But I see astrology get the same treatment as veganism. You mention, in passing, that you're into a thing. People line up around the block to heckle you and argue with you and scream slurs at you. And for some reason this doesn't really change you opinion on The Thing You're Into. It just changes your opinion on dating or on talking to anyone outside your insulated The Thing community.
The way people treat vegans and vegetarians is so weird.
If someone doesn't smoke you don't smoke with them. If they don't drink you don't drink with them. If they abstain from sex you don't have sex with them. If they don't like sports you don't go to the game with them.
If they don't eat meat they're just an asshole.
One of my favorite scenes that I saw David Spade in was in Grandma's Boy. The main group ended up going to a vegan restaurant and when they realize it, they made jokes about it to the waiter (David Spade). Then the waiter goes off on the group.
If they don’t eat meat they’re just an asshole.
mostly because the vegans we typically run into are militant vegans. you know, assholes. if you're worrying about what someone else is eating and your primary concern isn't that they get enough to eat, you're doing it wrong.
It's not a hobby though. Or a personal preference like veganism, it's a belief system based on an incredibly unimaginative fairy tail.
Somebody may very into collecting Yu-Gi-Oh cards but they would quite rightfully be called crazy if they started to insist that they really had magic powers. There is quite an important distinction between an interesting hobby that you kind of suspension of disbelief, believe in, versus an actual astrology theolog who insists that it's all real.
If they are into getting nerdy with charts and tables, there might be a chance to hook them up with Dungeons and Dragons... 🤔
nah, not really. ive been there more times than i can count. it happens.
people believe in all kinds of crazy shit. its up to you if you can look past someones beliefs for a casual fling or something more serious.
i tend to not openly judge others for something that makes their life more bearable. life sucks, its confusing, and shitty, more often than it is rewarding or enjoyable. people never know what to expect, so they search for patterns to predict a better outcome for themselves, or at least a way to soften the blow of a potentially shitty outcome. some people like astrology, some people like drugs, god, the universal conciousness, whatever. pick your passion.
cant judge someone for being human, when you're a human yourself. we all believe in something absolutely insane, and we all want to fuck each other.
plus, it can be fun to imagine that the stars aligned just for us, on this night....isnt it? even if it isnt true. its a beautiful illusion, and it can be appreciated when you suspend your disbelief until the morning light washes away the night, and all its constellations. and replaces it with bad breath, bed head, and a hangover in a strangers apartment.
life is easier when you dont take it seriously.
some people like astrology, some people like drugs, god, the universal conciousness, whatever. pick your passion.
Now hold on... One of these things is actually real though, and has very direct effects on your consciousness. It's insane to include drugs in there.
you can judge people for holding belief systems that are constructed for them to avoid personal accountability for themselves.
which is what astrology and other alt beliefs are for most of these folks. a way to explain away their problems rather than take responsibility for them.
sounds like the plot of a manga. teenagers of various zodiac birthdates come together to avert a solar system disaster with the power or friendship and shared trauma.
Most of the insane women that are crazy enough to spend time with me are, at the very least, in to horoscopes/tarot, so I maintain a base level knowledge on the subject.
They find it charming when I use I Ching to consult the Oracle when they can't decide what they want for dinner.
I do kinda think there's a through-line between people into horoscopes and people who never want to make a decision.
Glad my partner isn't into it, but I am a decent enough actor to have gone along with it with past partners
they really do like it when you play the part they want you to play.
and then they complain nobody is 'real' or 'honest' with them...
That is such a Leo thing to say
So it is. I grabbed the first result, sorry.

As long as they make fun of you for having an MBTI phase, then all is well in love and peace
Why not learn embroidery/crossstitching. Calming and fun.
Heh something I would try. I mean I've thought about making clothes (recycling old stuff) since I know how to use a sewing machine, home-ec class. I have serious damage on my hands from chemicals, fingers getting pinched, -_- skateboarding, power tools, etc. My left hand shakes all the time and the thumb clicks moving it. So putting together Gundam models works out since I mostly only use my right hand, which at least doesn't shake but I don't have the mobility like I used to.
I'd rather not. That's a turnoff to me.
Imagine you had to date a pool of people who tend to systematically deny the validity of your experiences or perspective. You have a way of referring to your experiences in a way that
Would you latch on to it as a way of filtering out dates?
I don't have to imagine that. I experience it.
In my case it's not astrology though, it's growing up poor. And the folks I meet who didn't grow up that way systematically deny my experiences and perspective as ignorant and stupid (or mentally ill), because poor people are ignorant and stupid in their eyes and they can't ever be anything other than that.
I think my favorite reaction is when I get lectured about how my parents should have never have had me. That's always a trip. Like I'm suppose to go back in time and stop my parents from fucking, to appease some stranger I just met? Shit's wild.
This will filter out anyone who denies the validity of anything.
A rather free love friend of a friend was trying to fuck guys from every sign of the zodiac, and she hadn't gotten to Cancer yet. As an amateur astronomer now, and a child who was raised by a lunatic into all sorts of woo, I declined on principle.
Look, have your fun. But woo is a relationship red flag for me. You cannot remind me of my mother if you want me turned on. I haven't gotten laid countless times. I don't need or want sex that badly. I desire someone I can trust to keep a firm grasp on reality.
I never make fun of it I just roll my eyes and move on.
The reason I have trouble getting laid is my neuroticism and pickiness. When I find someone smart, atheist, similar sense of humor, into video games & tech, politically aligned with me, and there is mutual physical attraction, I end up acting like a crazy person and blow it all up.
If at least 1 of those boxes is not checked (except the mutual physical attraction bit of course) I usually feel pretty meh about the person but I usually keep my cool and can get laid. However, then I usually don't pursue a relationship with them beyond that.
Recently found someone that I am pretty sure checked all those boxes, so had a mental breakdown and scared them off. Kind of want to buy some rope and/or find a nice tall bridge these days.
Honestly self-awareness is the first step to change, and what's painful is you will become aware before you become able to act on self-improvement, but that's how it works. I also think those who have trouble with relationships imagine that others are always having a great time but that's certainly not the case. Prove to yourself that you're better than you perceive yourself to be, ignore your self talk when you say it won't happen, and keep pushing. Get help if you're serious about those thoughts, because nobody should have to fight that battle alone
I mean, with the person I recently met and was into significantly, they've specifically told me they aren't into me. Though they certainly acted like they were for a while before. And then later we got momentarily drunkenly intimate but they've since stated it meant nothing. I've also since made a pretty big ass of myself because of the roller coaster of emotions and they're pretty cold towards me now.
The dating pool where I live is also unfortunately quite small in terms of people I'd be willing to even be with even in a city. Living in a red state is hell.
it sounds like you're just really egotistical and you need someone to be a mirror image of yourself before you find them remotely interesting.
also like you hate yourself, so yeah, you'd self sabotage the second you met someone like yourself, and by definition, neither of you can emotionally regulate so it's doomed anyway.
I don't want to date dumb people, religious people (but I repeat myself), rightwingers and centrists (but I repeat myself again twice more), we need to have a rapport through humor, and I want to be able to share video games as a hobby with a future partner. I think these are reasonable desires.
everything thinks their dating preferences are reasonable. no matter how absurd or statistically self-defeating they may be.
FWIW I've dated 100s of people, and only like 2 of them liked video games. So for me it's just not worth trying to find that because it's statistically impossible.
Some things you just have to compromise on, I also really like tall women, but statistically dating women over 5'9" eliminates 95% of women, and the average height of whom I have dated is 5'6". The amount of women 5'9" or taller I've dated is also 2, and both of them hated video games. Median height is 5'4".
So I'm not going to find anyone to date if I want a woman who is 5'10" and likes video games. They just don't exist in a statistically relevant amount.
astrology is all fun and games until your birthday is on a holiday
there are plenty of pro-astrology folks on fediverse.
Irrespective of its truthfulness, astrology is really cool! I love learning about it. I also really like alchemy. It's kinda like looking at someone's fanfic AU. Of course 17th century guys were inventing cute lil alphabets, pretending they belonged to angels, and writing lil secret notes. Of course someone looked up at the sky and then invented a whole magic system about how the pictures affect our lives. Humans never change.
In fact things like Tarot and astrology can be used to ascribe meaning to some of the ways in which we behave - like, you can't tell the future objectively from it, but you can figure things out about your own current feelings based on what you gravitate to and what the results make you think about.
Have you tried Yijing / I Ching yet? It is amazing!
I know in an earlier comment I said I dislike it, but I guess I just dislike people taking it way way way too seriously. It is pretty interesting and tarot cards and stuff and they're fun to learn about from a perspective. It's just the aspect of it being absolute truth or something I find a little perturbing.
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I'm pretty indifferent to astrology these days, but I have spent enough time studying the basics of how it works that I think anyone criticizing it should also at least have a basic enough understanding of it that they can criticize the thing itself rather than the stereotype of the thing.
If you're going to attack something for being stupid, it's a good idea to not be stupid yourself.
They aren't saying astrology these days is too polarized or something. They're saying the basic premise behind astrology itself is nonsensical. It's like expecting an atheist to read the Bible.
I was raised without religion. Decided I was atheist as soon as I came across the word as a kid.
I've read large parts of the Christian Bible, in a "know thy enemy" sort of way.
Also, reading the Bible is one way atheists come to be atheists.
That said, I have zero interest in learning more about astrology. Yes, it's completely nonsensical, and not worth anyone's time pursuing. There's nothing behind it. The "basics of how it works" is that it obviously doesn't work at all. It's complete bullshit.
No, it's like an atheist criticizing the Bible by saying things that are untrue about the Bible. If you care enough about something to be informed enough to make a credible critique, that's fine. But if you're just going to harbor and further perpetuate false stereotypes about a thing, maybe just stay in your lane and a, "Hey I don't know about that stuff and I don't care," is all you need.
But atheists never claim "Abraham had two dads", and anti-astrology people don't say "Geminis like jalapeños".
Ah right, because atheists and anti-astrologists are never guilty of error or logical fallacy? Oh wait.
I was going to say that astrology is actually cool, but then I realized what they meant by astrology.
While I can't call it scientific, there is a lot of interesting symbolism in traditional astrology, especially in its relations to real scientific discoveries. Western/modern astrology doesn't even include the 13th sign.
Sure, sweetie. Tell me more about it while we make our way to bed?
Not all women are into astrology, but all the people who are into astrology are women.
Actually, they're a very specific and weird subset of women. They almost always have these traits:
I've yet to meet an astrology fan who didn't have at least 80% of these.
Every straight simp.
Just fuck off with your stupid shit
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In the same way I feel bad for all the women out that had to put up with conversations about crypto for the last decade, the astrology for dudes
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