there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi:

40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs

16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks

both are into linux

!unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org

Accurate.

There are some lost kids wandering around complaining about their moms...

I dunno how they found it into here.

Not 40, but also don't want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization, whether that be by selling my data for profit, training an LLM with my data, or contributing to an inescapable network effect that can be increasingly monetized by various means.

The modern social media platform is not designed to foster positive interactions, but rather to maximize shareholder value.

Fuck that. I don't regret it. We built the world wide web from nothing for everyone and had it fucking stolen by rich assholes who put our community resources WE developed behind ads and paywalls. Unlike those uncreative hacks we have the talent to take it back.

Come now, at least half of Mastodon/*key users are genderqueer twentysomethings who are mind-bogglingly good with computers.

I don't regret it. I only regret letting the corporations stake their claim without greater pushback.

Unfortunately as a younger gen z i need to supplement my Fediversing with traditional social media unless i want to have humor of a previous generation and get obliterated at school. I wish there was a greater variety of people on here

I'm 22 but i kinda like the vibes of here.

I would say I like it here, imo the format and overall technology is perfect. I am always impressed by how little battery and data voyager uses compared to all the other bloated apps on my phone.

Having said that, I am disappointed that even without feeds and algorithms, it has become a lot more rage inducing and depressing then I would have hoped for.

There is just so many things that affect my life in a negative way being shown here, can’t a guy get a little ignorant bliss about nerdy topics? Or long, deep discussions comparing the philosophies of niche hobbies?

If we unite, we can regret it again.

And 30+ year old people who enjoyed the good times while they lasted and are now nostalgic?

i'm 39 and haven't built shit but the regret is real

Lemmy feels very gen z ish though.

Did we build the world wide web or did we just shitpost for the lulz for decades without realizing we gave all the benefits of our shitposting to Mark Zuckerberg?

Yes, bow to me, the grand architect of geocities Dragon Ball Z pages.

Wait I'm considered young here even though I'm in my late 30s?

Honestly really glad, I'm tired of reading teenager opinions everywhere on the Internet

I didn't build it, but I was raised by it. I was so hopeful when I was younger.

I personally blame the iPhone. Shit all started going downhill from then

Does it count as building the web if I worked manufacturing the AOL disks that plagued everyone's mailbox?

Hey no fair! I'm 30, I grew up on the Internet and hate what it became

I just wanted my Geocities page back.

Also for people with severe superiority complexes

My take is that the fediverse is nice because it's still in its pre-enshittification phase. Give it time.

I think there's two general kinds of people on the fediverse: Those who believe in whatever freedom, security, privacy, whatever, and the rest of us that came from somewhere else that went off the deep end of enshittification.

I’m about half that age, and I’ve met at least a couple grads and undergrad students on here that I assumed were also in their 20s…

It was supposed to make everything better, we were sure of it.

We were horribly wrong. Sorry.

I'm 39, thank you very much.

As a call center employee, the most inexplicably difficult part of my job is asking an older person to navigate to our website. When I give them the 9 letter address, it almost always results in a google search for them and the ordeal of having them try to pick out our website from the sponsored results brings joy to advertisers everywhere.

The people who built the web aren't the ones responsible for its' consolidation.

Never thought I would say we need to decentralize the Internet

In our defense, corporations ruined the world wide web. It still has so much potential if they weren't involved.

Hell yeah, my geocities Nine Inch Nails fan site helped build the Internet

Not quite. I went here initially because I got permabanned on reddit. But I now realize reddit is a shithole so I like it here. I do wish there were more active niche communities and I really wish you could comment while on VPN, which you cant for some reason

I felt my back in this post.

"I was there, Gandalf."

You rang?

Finally someone who at least knows the difference between the WWW and the Internet...

Wanna see us do it again? 💪 let's do this, team

People on here think too highly of themselves and the Fediverse. The overwhelming majority of people here don't know the basics of programming and of the few that do, the vast majority of them don't make any contributions. Even to those who do contribute, comparing themselves or the Fediverse WWW and the people who built it rather arrogant, no?

At the end of the day, the Fediverse would be better off going through a reality check. It's a niche alternative to mainstream social media that trades content for privacy. The tech is neat and the idea behind it is noble, but that's about it. It's not going to revolutionize the internet any time soon.

we wrote the rules of the internet, and while some were In-jokes about life on 4Chan, a lot of them are just plain truisms. But the language makes Gen Z have the buttpains, so here we are...

Love to be made to feel young in my mid thirties lol

well I feel seen

Software developers, of all people, should be used to the idea of complex projects not turning out quite the way they envisioned them. We're still building the World Wide Web, and the Fediverse is part of it. I don't even think we can call it a proper 1.0 version until every person has access to it, and we're still quite a ways out from that. After we hit that milestone, there will still be an avalanche of maintenance and QoL improvement work to do. I don't think the Web is something we'll finish building anytime soon, if ever.

Can’t relate. I just wanted off Reddit. Every top post and comment was a reposted top post or comment. Now it’s mostly bots… Anyways where are the 30s peeps at?

I would like to deny this, but I can't.

Got my start in the 14.4 days.

Mario teaches typing and the Oregon Trail on 5.2499" disks were just a dream.

Damn bro I'm not 40 yet. We age fast enough, don't rush it lol

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I'm not yet even close to 40, yet I still believe I am one of the "people who built the World Wide Web", in the sense that I've been posting to it for more than 20 years (there are still old forum posts online that I wrote at the age of 10), i.e. before it was something the general public did a lot.

I'm on the one hand proud of how much it has grown and how much more popular it has become; and on the other hand, worried that this has caused governments around the world to pay a lot more attention to it and limit our freedom on it through age verification laws and similar...

Only it’s being overrun by a bunch of teenaged idealists that insult anyone that disagrees with them.

I always thought it was like a mosaic of people pretending to be a mosaic of other people. /s

How dare you accuse me of contributing anything other than shitposts to the world wide web.

I'm 38 I'll have you know.

...turning 39 in a few months.

im over 50 and lee is way older than I. Granted www was just being born when I was in college.

Who invented the modern computer look and feel - the sick sad history of computer-aided collaboration: What they wanted and how it went:
https://www.quora.com/...

I didn’t do anything. I just went along for the ride. I love using tech other people made to help me do shit. I think I just like problem solving efficiently.

I feel seent.

Maybe mastodon but the lemmy / piefed / mbin instances seem to be a much younger user base.

🔘I’m in this meme and I don’t like it

(Sorry for everything.)

fediverse is basically internet as god intended.

Bitch I'm 36 and here on this Lemmy ish to meet the women who will give birth to my first through sixth wives. I have plans for seven onwards. Illuminati shit, y'know? But what I do for the CIA is I easily discredit myself by shaking a loose vestibule of fecal matter from my pant leg before providing education on any number of fun subjects like how MKULTRA was our initial enlightenment program that went and evolved its memetic ass into Star Gate by adding a larger counterintelligence role to the project and this has since and perpetuatively splintered into the modern Anonymous whatchsmacallit or whatever the kids are rizzing their pants about today, and then I follow that completely true series of facts with a rendition of the arts:

8=====D

I make more money than you doing this. Anyways, have a nice day! I have d-tier sex crimes to go boast about. Toodles!

Yeah this one Cuts deep

HOW DO YOU KKOW MY AGE?! fuck. i'm in.

Hello, it’s me, Al Gore

Im sorry but I did not contribute to this in any meaningful way.

That's my people.

see you on Reticulum!

for 40+ people who built the WWW then sold it to the enshitifiers, which they now regret

Wow

♬ Well I'm an old blues man
And I thiiink that you understand
I've been singin' the blues ever since the world began ♬

That’s fair

I've been on here since I was 16 lol

I like the Web.

I don't like all of the websites out there and avoid using some, but I think that that was always going to be the case.

I guess that maybe it's a little surprising that there was the degree of consolidation that there was among the broader population into use of some specific websites. But...well, network effect applies to social media, so you'd expect at least some natural tendency in that direction.

considers

I guess that the degree of shift to social media as a whole is surprising to me. Like, most really important websites are social media websites. But, well, I'd always used social media myself, even prior to the term being coined, so the idea that others might want to use it doesn't seem that strange. BBSes, Usenet. I wasn't a user of The WELL, but there's another influential forum.

And a shift to Web-based social media was predicted. Those of us who were around probably remember use of the term "Web 2.0":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0

Web 2.0 (also known as participative, participatory,[1] web and social web)[2] refers to websites that emphasize user-generated content, ease of use, participatory culture, and interoperability (i.e., compatibility with other products, systems, and devices) for end users.

The term was coined by Darcy DiNucci in 1999[3] and later popularized by Tim O'Reilly and Dale Dougherty at the first Web 2.0 Conference in 2004.[4][5][6] Although the term mimics the numbering of software versions, it does not denote a formal change in the nature of the World Wide Web;[7] the term merely describes a general change that occurred during this period as interactive websites proliferated and came to overshadow the older, more static websites of the original Web.[2]

A Web 2.0 website allows users to interact and collaborate through social media dialogue as creators of user-generated content in a virtual community. This contrasts the first generation of Web 1.0-era websites where people were limited to passively viewing content. Examples of Web 2.0 features include social networking sites or social media sites (e.g., Facebook), blogs, wikis, folksonomies ("tagging" keywords on websites and links), video sharing sites (e.g., YouTube), image sharing sites (e.g., Flickr), hosted services, Web applications ("apps"), collaborative consumption platforms, and mashup applications.

Whether Web 2.0 is substantially different from prior Web technologies has been challenged by World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, who describes the term as jargon.[8] His original vision of the Web was "a collaborative medium, a place where we [could] all meet and read and write".[9][10] On the other hand, the term Semantic Web (sometimes referred to as Web 3.0)[11] was coined by Berners-Lee to refer to a web of content where the meaning can be processed by machines.[12]

By Berners-Lee's statement there, he always expected the Web to have a social aspect.

Why'd you have to call me out like that?

true.

As per usual, something was used for greed that wasn’t initially meant to. They couldn’t for see it

I'm in this image and I don't like it

There is nothing here for you. You may leave at any time.

If by build you mean a Thursday board power user, sure.

Lemmy is under 25 and over 45 absolutely no in between

I hope he’s not speaking for me cuse I ain’t 40 and I’ll hold on till like last mastodon

The people who built the web don't regret it tho, lol. Try harder.

My only problem with it is that it's federated.

Yeah. A bunch of old out of touch uncs with no personality outside of nostalgia for old internet platforms they got banned from, racism and misogyny.

With inflated egos about how much they actually mattered (seriously, built the world wide web).

Such a healthy platform that won't just slowly shrivel up and die.