It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas.
Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated "crime fighting" excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They've needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.
They'll make up whatever excuses they need either way so it doesn't really make a difference.
It'll be interesting to see the contrast with the political response to this assassination compared to the Democratic Minnesota lawmaker that was assassinated a couple months ago
I get the distinct feeling conservatives won't be nearly as silent about this one
Except they haven't needed an excuse to date. I'm sick of this boogyman. Punch back, they haven't been pulling any punches.
It will be like the Iraq war.
Saudi Arabia was responsible, but we're going to attack Iraq instead.
I get the attempt at dark humor but honestly, damn, for me, that's a no.
This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you're too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you... Then, for the greater good, good riddance
Don't get me wrong, he got what he advocated for, I'm certainly not crying or really feeling anything about his death but huh, I guess dude FAFO'ed. I just don't find the "good guy with a gun" comment appropriate here that's all even if a small sliver of me goes "yeah, kinda, yeah" because more than likely that guy is very much not a good guy, probably very mentally ill.
Just my thoughts.
From the bits I saw of the alleged shooter getting arrested, to me it looks like the guy was planning on getting caught. Balding old white men who can shoot like that don't strike me as the type who run away.
EDIT: Waiting for confirmation on whether the actual suspect is caught or not.
I completely understand, and I actually wish that I could share your perspective. Unfortunately for my "empathy for all" perspective, I couldn't help but smile when I read that he got shot. Because my mind directly went to the "oh, this is gonna alleviate so much suffering" POV
I haven't read about, and am not interested in the shooter.
My opinion is only that the world is better off without Charlie Kirk, nothing else at this point.
what/who you are and advocate for causes these things
"If someone tries to assassinate you, it's because you deserve it", in other words.
Seems like a pretty dangerous stance to take.
We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. That's the context that every discussion of Kirk's death should begin with.
I don't know. This is only going to cause MAGA to ramp up their fascism, and give them a better excuse to enact further violence on us, the citizens.
wHo CoUlD hAvE sEeN tHiS cOmInG?!?!
The ramp up was always going to happen anyway. Everyone knows that appeasement doesn't work on Nazis.
They didn't need this. They were going to do it regardless. They might use this as an excuse, sure, but it wont' be the reason.
Fascist do not "need" a reason to remove rights from people.
They need exactly zero excuse other than brown people existing to ramp up their fascism and enact violence on Americans.
Any politician that completely supports Trump is fair game at this point. Things will not return to normal by talking. If you dont wanna live in a dictatorship wake the fuck up. If you live in the US (i luckily dont) then learn how to use a gun, because its gonna get much much worse than the way it is right now.
Yes, as long as people are willing to resort to murder in support of their ideology.
I just have to ask, is it because another human being was shot or were you one of the people celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden?
Humor?
I've now heard these things in reference to Americans from non-americans:
- Why aren't you doing something about the rising fascist republicans?
And now:
- Americans are fucked up for doing something against a prominent fascist government supporter
I'm not sure which you want anymore.
There's more than one person outside of America.
I have mercy for those that aren't actively trying to harm and take advantage of those worse off than themselves.
The fascist and their enablers can eat a bullet so we can have a better tomorrow.
You got to admit if you didn't want to get shot, visiting a US school was a bad idea.
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Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Reminder that this is Kirk's stance on guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVc9l6pjxtI
Unfettered 2A is worth the gun deaths according to Charlie Idiot here.
ETA: holy shit, saw a clip and damn, that dude is dead.
Trump ordered flags at half mast until Sunday. So this piece of shit got what he quite literally asked for and it’s a national tragedy, but innocent children killed in schools on a weekly basis get “nothing we can do about it, thoughts an prayers 🤷♂️.” Fucking clownshow.
My non-mod opinion on this:
Trump is posting Kirk is dead.
Not going to celebrate, just noting:
"I can't stand the word 'empathy', I think it's a made up New Age term." - Charlie Kirk
He was sitting at what he calls the "prove me wrong" table, answering questions about gun violence.
I think someone managed it.
Oh, so this is the school shooting that Conservatives suddenly give two shits about?
My water heater started leaking over the weekend. It was only seven years old, but I suppose since the warranty was six years, I shouldn't complain? Anyway, I installed my new water heater today, so I can shower again. This one has a 12-year warranty, it might out live me.
I just took a shower, I feel great. I'll be going for a walk around sunset. It's been a good day.
There's so many layers of irony to this event. You can't make this shit up.
A man, who made a career downplaying gun violence and advocating against empathy for its victims, was shot while giving a talk about his favorite topic under a tent that said "Prove me wrong", on a college campus in a state that just lifted its ban on weapons on college campuses. His own quotes can be endlessly used to shut down any outrage at his ironic demise.
Charlie Kirk's final moments were spent being definitively and completely proven wrong.
If this wasn't going to used as an excuse to ban Trans people from owning firearms and for further violence against the opposition, it would be hilarious.
Former President Barack Obama stressed that "this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy."
With all due respect sir, if our democracy were functioning for all of the people instead of just for the rich, people wouldn’t feel the need to vote with the ammo box.
Charlie Kirk Says Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment
He deserves the same empathy and compassion he gave to other victims of gun violence.
Trump ally Charlie Kirk was shot at an event in Utah on Wednesday, a source familiar with the matter says.
The extent of Kirk’s injuries were not immediately clear.
trump asked for prayers. They’re going full Christian nationalist with their responses.
Kristi Noem: The secretary of Department of Homeland Security said, “Byron and I are lifting up Charlie, Erika, and their family in our prayers right now.”
Pete Hegseth: “An incredible Christian, American, and human being. May the healing hand of Jesus Christ be upon him,” the secretary of the Department of Defense said in a post on X.
Mike Johnson: The House Speaker asked to pray “for our good friend, Charlie Kirk,” in a post on social media.
Dan Bongino: The deputy FBI director said, “I don’t have the words. God help Charlie and his family.”
Nazis are so goddamn weird.
Audience member: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
Kirk: “Too many.”
The same audience member went on say the number is five, and proceeded to ask if Kirk knows how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years.
Kirk: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”
Seconds later, the sound of a pop is heard and the crowd screams as Kirk gets shot and recoils in his seat.
Remember: The vast majority of mass attacks in the US have no connection to transgender people. From January 2013 to the present, of the more than 5,700 mass shootings in America (defined as four or more victims shot and killed), five shooters were confirmed as transgender, said Mark Bryant, founding executive director of the Gun Violence Archive.
Can we all appreciate the irony that Charlie Kirk was shot debating about gun violence?
Kirk gets shot and all the Republicrats: Political Assasination!1!1! 3 Dems get shot and one killed and the shooter has a hitlist: Meh…
Now THAT’S how you shoot a Nazi. Take note, loser who missed trump
Interesting reflection of Lemmy demographics that I haven't seen much "But he has a wife and kids, we shouldn't be celebrating his death uwu" rhetoric. Apparently even the most staunch centrists here acknowledge the harm Toiler Paper USA has done to the US populace.
There's some insane laundering of his legacy going on now over on Reddit and through American news outlets though, as if he didn't call Paul Pelosi's attacker a "patriot" or dismiss school shootings as a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment. MSNBC even fired a political analyst over calling him "divisive."
I'm not one of those people who blame every ill of the world on the "neoliberal cucks" or whatever, but damn if they don't have a point regarding the corporate capture of the United States news media currently.
Magats: declare war on liberal America, send in military to accupy blue cities, have brownshirts asaault and deport non whites, even when they are US citizens.
Magats: gets surprised when someone shoots back.
If Mamdani would have been shot today instead of this melon headed fuck, he would have cheered.
Republican Senate Leader John Thune of South Dakota: “There is no place in our country for political violence. Period, full stop.”
Says the asshole who's party advocate for political violence every fucking day.
He didn't believe in empathy, so I'm going to honour him by not having empathy for him. He was in a position of authority and power and advocated for gun violence over the lives of kids, saying the deaths in school shootings are "worth it". I can only sympathise for his poor children though. Jesus!!
I don't live in America but I heard 3 kids are currently in critical condition after a school/mass shooting. It's weird how this got way more media coverage
Its in moments like these that I really appreciate non corporate social media. Everywhere outside the fediverse all I see is people freaking out, acting like this is the first shooting to ever happen in the united states. Even supposed leftists are just like "I don't agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs".
They seem to have forgotten that people get killed over way dumber shit all the time. Personally I care about all the other shootings a lot more than this one. Especially the school shooting in Colorado that happened the same afternoon, which is being mostly ignored.
There are even lots of comments that condemn anyone making light of his death, or even just making comments about his politics. This dissent they condemn is almost nowhere to be found though, because algorithms bury it all straight to the bottom. The only opinion allowed to be seen is "I'm horrified look at me".
Coming back to a place where a real discussion can be had makes me realize just how important this project really is. We need more spaces that we truly own.
Trump blames harsh language for Kirk's death
Trump posted a video that appeared to be filmed in the Oval Office Wednesday evening on Truth Social, blaming Kirk's death on harsh political rhetoric.
He said "violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree."
He added: "For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now."
U.S. terror experts have warned of rising threats from so-called stochastic terrorism, in which sometimes unstable individuals are inspired to violence by hate speech and scenarios they see online and hear echoed by public figures.
Whaaaaattt??? I am so totally shocked to hear this accusation coming from Trump.
After the FBI has already apparently arrested and released 2 suspects... That's another great thing about firing every FBI agent that was qualified to do their job in retaliation for Jan 6th. You never quite know what's incompetence vs conspiracy these days.
I was getting tired of all the bad news
University officials said the shot appeared to come from a nearby campus building roughly 200 yards (180 m) from the event area; local media identified the location as the Losee Center rooftop.
Helluva shot then
So what did everyone have for lunch?
I'm somewhat surprised that the Trump Administration went this far to distract from the Epstein files.
Somehow I think the reaction to this will be totally different than it was when a gunman killed Melissa Hortman and wounded John Hoffman.
You sure about that?
They detained this man in connection to the crime, however he has since been released. Which is incredibly peculiar considering he and I were watching the sopranos together at the time of the incident. I can’t remember who my sopranos buddy was at the time.
Good riddance to a monster. I feel sorry for his kids though.
I'll admit, I jumped up and down like a schoolgirl when I heard. I'll gladly celebrate the death of fascists.
Change my mind 😂
I find the demands from the far right to have empathy for Kirk so distasteful... I see them dive into their favourite victim role so quickly and all the woe is us and the "See, the left is dangerous" stupid rhetoric.
Kirk himself said that empathy was destroying the world, why do we need to feel empathy for that asshole now?! Like always the right only cares when it affects them...
I'm soooo tired about the nonsense from the far right.
This attack is only going to galvanize the far right, so I sure hope that the shooter turns out to be right wing. If he's left wing, I fear for the lives of many of us. The nazis are trigger happy.
Hope the shill money was worth it, you fucking mutant
A moment of silence on the floor of the US House of Representatives over Charlie Kirk’s killing has turned into a shouting match between Republicans and Democrats.
The commotion began when Republican representative Lauren Boebert rose after the moment of prayer to ask that the House also say a prayer for Kirk, according to multiple lawmakers who were on the floor during the incident, Axios reports.
Democrats then shouted “what about the kids in Colorado”, referring to a school shooting in Colorado that also occurred on Wednesday afternoon. Boebert responded that she was about to reference that tragedy before she was interrupted, the report continues.
Republican representative Anna Paulina Luna, who worked as Kirk’s director of Hispanic engagement at Turning Point USA, then stood up and yelled at Democrats: “You caused this!”
That prompted a raucous Democratic response, with Democratic representative Jahana Hayes, a leader on the gun violence prevention task force, shouting: “Pass some gun laws!”
Footage of the commotion from C-Span can be seen here on Instagram.
Source: Guardian.com live updates feed, https://www.theguardian.com/...
One less Nazi on earth. I hope everyone has a good day.
Looks like the person they detained was released. The shooter got away and is still at large.
Charlie Kirk: Charlie Kirk Says Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment
They immediately detained people who confronted Charlie at the event (as they were more democratic), but obviously were not the shooter.
The FBI says there is a massive manhunt for the shooter and are asking for any help they can get.
The Right IMMEDIATELY blamed democrats and the "radical left" are calling for our murders and a civil war, without any scrap of evidence to prove their claims.
The shooter was a ghost, some videos show a black figure on a roof 142 yards from the tent, well blended in and in all black. There is also video of the shooter running off the roof immediately after the shooting and got lost in the chaos. It's been over 18 hours and no suspect has been caught.
Just before this event, Charlie voiced concerns over other right wing conservatives not aligning with his ideals and voicing concern over Israel. He was wearing body amour at this event and the shooter knew it. Extra security was brought in for this event.
The most logical explanations for this shooting would be:
Another right wing radical taking out a voice they feel is hurting their cause for the movement and to cause chaos in the political spectrum.
A political assassination carried out by Donald Trump and his team to start a war with democrats and start a real war within on anyone that doesn't agree with them. AKA False Flag.
It's just too clean a getaway and too good of a shot for any other explanation considering the angle of the shot, the elevation change, the crowd, and the heightened security.
Did anyone notice the rainbow today?
Really Kirk? On Suicide Prevention day?
Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."
Play stupid games, win stupid prices...
There's a lot of conservatives seemingly gearing up for war saying shit like "The left doesn't understand what they've unleashed."
Conservatives get to kill who they want and the moment someone kills one of them they want to murder the left.
(At least that's what the bot-like conservative social media looks like.)
Photo of the new alleged suspect:
This guy doesn't look like an expert marksman, but I guess looks can be deceiving.
Cartridges with "transgender and anti-fascist" writing on them were found.
Oh, were they? That's super convenient. Almost thoughtful of the shooter to leave that kind of evidence behind but evade capture.
A lot of people seem to be writing on gun cartridges these days. Kind of a new trend I guess?
Very confused how we ended up here, but started here:
He is apparently dead now.
Christmas came early this year 😆
“Democratic societies will always have political disagreements, but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence,” she said on social media.
Well its not a democracy anymore you little fuckwits, so the time for polite discourse is over im afraid. You gotta reap what you sow.
Wow I almost feel sorry for the guy. Words shouldn't ever be met with violence. But if you act like a complete cunt for years don't be surprised when you get fucked.
Left-wing streamer Kyle Kulinski says Charlie Kirk was feuding with nazis to his political right before he was killed.
Right-wing pundit Clayton Morris shares rumor that Charlie Kirk was concerned Israel was going to kill him, and that he was wearing body armor when he was shot.
Taking bets on how long before Nazi In Chief claims this as a direct attack on the conservative ethnostate and wants martial law and removing firearms from citizens?
It really says something about what a POS you are when you get shot dead and everyone's reaction is to point and laugh.
You know the universe loves irony when Charlie Kirt gets killed in a school shooting.
Sucks for his wife and kid(s) but otherwise nothing of value was lost. He made his silver spewing hate and oppression.
Quoting Charlie Kirk himself, these actions are prudent and rational
Here’s the video. Pop.
Hey, be respectful. This man really put his neck out for his beliefs. He offered himself as tribute to the 2nd amendment, and we should admire his conviction. The proper way to celebrate would be to honour his wishes and show zero empathy. It's the least we can do for him.
It's a rare man that has the courage to rationalize senseless violence in defense of unrestricted access to deadly weapons, and it is even rarer to literally make that the hill you die on. He showed us all by example how you truly live your creed.
Some people I know are taking a dangerous amount of glee in this. Not dangerous in a "Oh he wasn't that bad of a guy how dare you be happy about it" kind of way, but in a "You know people can see what you're writing, right?" kind of way. The sort of stuff that would get you banned from sites or fired from your jobs.
By all means, be happy about it if you want to be, I know there are some specific minority groups out there that are cheering the house down at Kirk's death, but be smart about it. Then again I probably don't need to tell anyone on Lemmy this since privacy and anonymity are pretty key elements of the community.
And nothing of value was lost
"So we need a bigger distraction. Like Horst Wessel meets Reichstag fire." I wonder if someday we'll find out Trump ordered it.
Or maybe it's just chickens coming home to roost.
Or most likely of all, far-right faction fighting.
“Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America in the last 10 years?” a person asks. “Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk responds right before he is shot.
Shooter fired from a building 200 yards away and managed to give him the most stunningly ironic last words. It honestly seems contrived.
And apparently he’d been in contact with the trump administration, through frequent calls and texts with Vance, all through trump’s campaign and presidency. Wonder how they’ll deal with a seemingly immensely important person leaving so suddenly.
Advocated for guns on campus and 2A and died for his cause, so props for that.
So what you doing this weekend?
Stealing this from mastodon:
No one can say he didn't believe in what he (hate) preached, I guess.
I don't think this is good! But at least he did.
So, can we call reaping what you sew getting "Charlie Kirked" now? Watching the media and Trump already canonizing this guy as a martyr is sickening. Seriously. "Oh... he got young people into politics... he was a cultural icon... what a tragedy..." Like, never mind that this piece of trash was just another bigoted mouthpiece for the establishment literally poisoning America. I don't have any sympathy at all for him or the rest of his ilk. Fuck 'em all but six.
“gun deaths and school shootings are incredibly unfortunate but a necessary thing to help ensure our gun freedoms “ - Charlie Kirk
Glad that he is dead, time to party 😄 He got what he wanted, so no need to feel sorry for him.
Someone dial Whine One One!
I just want to point out some things since everyone is assuming it was a leftist shooter:
- No one knows who the shooter actually is.
- Most leftist reactions I've seen to Kirk have been to laugh at his stupidity, not get murderously angry at him.
- No political message has appeared yet, like the one Luigi put on the bullets he used. Which if you're a leftist shooter, come on you gotta at least do that homage.
- The shooter killed him with one shot from a distance and got out without being caught.
- I've never met a leftist who knows how to shoot a gun, nevermind one with that level of skill. If it was a leftist, I'm surprised they couldn't catch them by now by simply arresting the one leftist who knows how to shoot at long distance.
Can't help but find the smug PROVE ME WRONG banner wrapping around the canopy extremely funny.
Busy today and I agree with most of the comments. Zero sympathy for a neo-Nazi who supported the violent MAGAts and wished violence on people who disagreed with him.
Who wants to take bets that the guy who shot him is a right-wing guy?
I get the strong feeling that this shooting was done by a professional.
- 1 single shot from over two hundred yards away
- shooter escapes like a ghost, and it doesn't seem like the police have found any evidence he was even there.
- a separate person seemingly providing a distraction so the shooter can get away and the police just let him go.
Makes me wonder a few things
- was this a false flag? (seems most likely) - especially when you consider the context of trump wanting to send military into US cities and the Republicans voting against releasing the epstein docs on the same day. This shooting was an absolutely fantastic distraction and could easily be used by trump to promote his usage of military against US cities.
- was this sponsored by someone
- was this another country?
- if the shooter escaped so easily, how likely is it that he does this again somewhere else?
Nurse friend of mine saw the closeup. She said
"It was a gusher. Given we have 5 pints of blood in our vascular system, he probably lost at least 1-2 before they got to him. Anymore video of what occurred next? At least enough for a bad brain injury"
Looks like he dead.
Wait...he was just 31!?
In other interesting SLC news, I hit every green light on the way to the grocery store this afternoon. Bought stuff to make chili.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Oh thank goodness, was anyone else hurt?
10/10 Assassination
To achieve the extirpation of Nazi tyranny there are no lengths of violence to which we will not go. - Winston Churchill
thoughts & prayers
Considering some of his comments over the years, I'm torn whether this is ironic, appropriate, or hilarious.
I just can't decide.
Get fucked, you fascist puke.
I'd like to buy the shooter a blunt
Give Nazis the boot.
I'm super not stoked on this event, I know that makes me a big softy or whatever but I'm not gonna be the one celebrating blood and death and mayhem regardless of who it is.....BUT Charlie Kirk is was one of the leading big mouths pushing political discourse to this point. He's been helping fill the tinderbox and somebody just dropped a lit match into his lap.
I just hope to God they don't try to spin this into a store-brand Reichstag Fire moment since they can't get any big reaction from the Nat'l Guard presence.
Huh. I swear I had a tiny violin here somewhere. Maybe my dog ate it.
Your lifestyle determines your deathstyle.
His death was officially announced. Anyways…
So yesterday was the 9/11 anniversary. There was also a school shooting on the same day this piece of human garbage was rightfully shot in the jugular. I read and scour the news every day and use Google News as an aggregator. So does my wife. You had to scroll down about 10-15 stories to even get to the school shooting, and I swear... I didn't see much coverage about 9/11 at all. Not like they usually do every year. But here we are with Charlie Kirk's stupid fucking face plastered everywhere as if he is someone to be admired. 9/11 and the aftermath of the war on terror DESTROYED this country. As far as I am concerned, the terrorists fucking won. All progress made up to that point began to faulter and collapse as the divisions between people beating the drums of war in that time and those that didn't want to necessarily go to war or a multifront full scale war grew further and further. That was the straw that broke the camel's back leading us to now, where a bigoted, misogynistic, homophobic, piece of shit like Charlie Kirk even makes the fucking headlines. What a fucking time to be alive.
Lmao. Also, lol.
Confirmed. He's dead. No way he would have survived
what a surprising turn of events from the usual cycle of bad news
I hear theres a toasty spot in hell next to Reagan waiting for him
This is what the second amendment was for. Theofascism has no place here.
Well damn...
Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA, was in critical condition at a Utah hospital Wednesday after being shot at a college event
and
A university spokesperson said they do not have a suspect in custody. The school previously said in an alert that police had a suspect detained.
Whoever the identity of the assassin is, they are clearly a good marksman. According to reports, they made that shot about 600 feet away from the rooftop of a nearby building. While Kirk was stationary most of the time, they landed a clean kill to the jugular with just one bullet and then made a quick getaway. That's Lee Harvey Oswald levels of accuracy. While I wouldn't estimate that the assassin was a hired professional. They likely have seasoned experience with firearms or possibly military or police training.
Why TF would you release this news and not include the picture?
remember when sitting republican congressmen turned the attempted assassination of Nancy Pelosi into a joke? like actually making jokes about it? they're so good at condemning political violence
Was it those damn vaccines or 5G?
Seeing reports of the shot being from 200 yards so this was either a professional hit or a very practiced home grown crazy.
He who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind.
This is tragic, but not for the obvious reasons. Despite him being a hateful man who added nothing of value to this world, his death will do the same. ITT there are a lot of people who Kirk has negatively impacted. While I don’t blame anybody for how they feel, no one should be cheering or dancing about somebody’s death. But here we are.
What concerns me most is that his death will not make things better for anybody. If anything, I worry that it’ll make things much worse. Those people who followed Kirk will now feel more emboldened in their ideology, and view Kirk as a martyr. Trump and his ilk will probably lash out with more bullshit EOs or enforcement of their illegal policing of innocent people.
Celebrate while you can, as we certainly live in interesting times.
I expected a megathread when Israel bombed Qatar, not when some white-wing guy got shot.
People really like a personal story over geopolitics, eh.
Unfortunately he won't be the only one to die because of this.
Someone on reddit found the t shirt, definitely the same kind. It has a flag and eagle with "land of the free, home of the brave".
It also is listed in numerous places as a "disabled veterans national foundation" shirt.
Under the circumstances, could be relevant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/317271063419
Update: seems to be a gift for donating to that organization. https://www.dvnf.org/freegift15/
Of course the usual caveats - don't assume this person actually donated to them, or even is the actual shooter. But yeah, this all may be a clue why they're so slow to tell us what they know about the shooter, given that it increasingly looks like it doesn't support the narrative they led with.
Time for the Marines to invade Utah right?
Chairman Trump did it, martial law incomming 3... 2...
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The GOP is going to rule from so far away now. They already were doing fewer and fewer town halls. Now that they think they'll be in the crosshair, we may never see them in person again.
For some reason my coworkers are upset about this, don't see why
per AP:
JUST IN: Person suspected in fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk now in custody, FBI director says
Well this is going to be interesting all things Patel.
Just the inspiration I need to go out and get a burger to celebrate.
Not a doctor but, arterial spray from the neck indicates a hit to the Carotid Artery.
Supplies 50% of the blood to the brain.
Basically near 100% chance of a stroke. Very high probability of death.
If no death, the odds of him not being a vegetable are low.
If no vegetable, odds of him wiping his ass again are low.
Weapon found, lots of surveillance footage recovered, including images of the shooter (not released).
When the GOP blames the left all I can say is, "The one who smelt, it dealt."
NSFW video of Charlie kirk getting shoot. I have liked tow videos form different perspectives
backup https://videy.co/v/?id=ZUYuSYaw1 backup https://www.viddler.com/Gt8YRW
Original video form twitter
Other perspective
backup https://videy.co/v/?id=pbNofRMh1
Original video form rumble. com/v6yr82c-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event.html
The Mormons of Utah already hate our government, if Pedo-pig decided to send in his jack-boots, I'm curious to see how they would respond.
Apparently reports from Utah are coming in saying he died
The weather has been beautiful lately. Is it autumn yet?
I needed this good news today! 🎉
From: https://sofrep.com/...
From the audio, I would speculate that a suppressed weapon was used to shoot Kirk from his left at a fairly low trajectory. It does not appear that a hollow-point round was used, as this would have likely caused more damage at the entrance site, which was the left side of Kirk’s neck.
SOF personnel I have spoken with regarding the shooting estimate the shot may have been taken from roughly 200 meters away.
Good, he got what was coming to him. He fucked around and now he found out.
I‘m in dire need of a matching small face meme. Shitposters assemble!
Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. Then Trump posts "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!" Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hasn't officially been declared dead, why is Trump saying that Charlie Kirk is dead. I'm calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated, and this will be trump's reischtag fire. Buckle up.
Reap what you sow.
You have to celebrate the holidays as they come.
act stupid win stupid prizes, right?
Charlie Kirk fatally shot at campus event; 'person of interest' released: Live updates
Patel said the FBI has released a person of interest in the shooting death of Kirk, less than two hours after he announced publicly that the bureau had that person in custody.
"The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement," Patel said in a post on X at 7:59 p.m. ET. "Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency."
So where did that 200 yards estimate come from?
Interesting.
Is Trump going to invade Utah now?
Oh no, that sucks. Anyways…
My guess is the shooter is a disgruntled right-wing vet and that is why they haven't caught him yet, they know who he is, and they don't want to catch him and reveal the truth. If they reveal who he is, we can research his past. So, they're going to let him go.
We're well and truly into the Troubles now,.
Wouldn't surprise me if this gives trump the martial law excuse he has been gunning for.. Wonder if he was an unknowing participant / sacrificial lamb for a false flag to get this done and had no idea that they would throw him under the bus
I'm getting Reichtag Fire vibes
Unrelated spelling question: Is it "jilted lover" or "gilted lover".
neat
That's interesting. Now what's for dinner?
Get fucked loser
Turdpublicans suffering consequences for being complicit with malice and racism?
Good.
I have to admit for a moment when I saw people commenting he was probably dead, I was glad. But after watching that video, I honestly feel like a piece of shit. Even if this somehow leads to something good. Which it probably won't. Blowing someone's throat out with a gun is just so viscerally awful.
Eat shit, Charlie Kunt.
Who the fuck was Charlie Kirk? He sounds like a space captain or something
Anyone have a video link that isnt on mastodon? Those don’t work
I was kinda hoping to never see the word "Megathread" again. Does it really need to be said?
As for the news, well it seemed like this guy was kinda willing this happen. I mean I put out there I don't care for a word, this guy seemed to put out there that gun violence was OK. Oh well.
I just found out about the death of Charlie Kirk. The only reason I found out is because I read the Atlantic weekly on Mondays. I live in Finland, where nobody knows and nobody would care if they did. Finland is great.
Someone interacted so what the heck. I have been watching broadcast tv and its not bad except for the commercials. Half of them are like what the am new radio station have. BUY GOLD!!!! Another though is hawking this book about charlie kirk. barf.
Oh my gosh! Is he okay??
Shoutout to his family 🥴
Yeesh, I'm sorry but the only thing this accomplishes is turning him into some kind of a martyr.
To be clear, fuck this guy, he's absolutely vile and a terrible person, but there will always be a million others waiting and ready to take his place and get rich spouting this hateful ignorant bullshit. No matter what happens to him, this doesn't solve anything. We cannot start normalizing assassination attempts.
Did he deserve to die? I don't think it's fair to say that. He was a bad person and had a lot of bad influence over way too many people.
But even if he was reprehensible, killing him will not do anyone any good. It will just be used for further radicalization. Not that they need any excuse.
starting to think this was planned pretext, so he could be their martyr like Ernst vom Rath was to Kristallnacht. Also distracting from Epstein files blocked again, Russia invading NATO country and Israel bombing Qatar. It was too professionally done and this is too convenient for them all....
The most interesting thing about people like him getting killed is that the it exposes just how morally bankrupt this country is at its core. There's no morals, no values, no principles, no accountability, no self awareness, and no consistency among the populace. Social media has really fried everybody's brain.
Can't fuck with ngas saying this a good thing 🙅♂️
To those who want to be flippant, this is not the time. The response will be terrible and become a setback that'll last generations.
I just wanna say, even if this guy turns out to be antifa or whatever, fuck him. He stole the headlines from Trump-Epstein and made a ridiculous oligarch bootlicker like Charlie Kirk seem sympathetic. He didn't do this to defend Trump's victims, he did it to get attention. If he dies before getting captured, piss on his grave.
Hopefully though he's some right winger who thought Kirk was too far left. Unlikely, but if it does happen then watch how fast this drops from the headlines.
Edit: I'm now increasingly convinced this is not a leftist. Ignore this post and thread.
Calling Charlie Kirk a Nazi while celebrating his death. The irony. This whole thread should be locked.
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"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights" - Charlie Kirk, 2023
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