The most male and female reasons to be admitted to the hospital
a year ago by The Picard Maneuver to c/dataisbeautiful
That does appear to be the case. Almost all of the pregnancy visits aren't done in hospital. They are clinic visits and clinical post hospital appointments. And almost all of the male admissions are trauma admissions through the ER.
And to be honest, men do have a higher rate of trauma admissions than women. While women are a bit more often admitted for medical issues. But, often have medical issues they also see a doctor for.
I disagree. It does show the contrast of what most women deal with when compared directly to the male category. And while pregnancy is specific to female (at birth), it is culturally significant because it is so prevalent.
Yes of course, that's why I said it was important. But this table is about gender disparities in specific reasons for admittance. If the ratio can't possibly be anything but 100%, what does that tell me about anything other than the self-evidently obvious?
You might as well tell me water is wet or the sky blue. Very true and both those facts are important, but neither is exactly new or surprising information.
I suppose it tells you that there is no male equivalent. I do think it’s interesting that there are so many fewer types of admission skewed toward women that fit the criteria of being skewed by 80% or more, especially when you consider the prominence of pregnancy related types.
I do also think it would be more interesting to see something like the top 15 admission types for men and top 15 for women without the 80% threshold requirement to get a wider spread of women-skewed admissions.
It doesn't compare directly to the male category because there is no male category listed.
Quite a bit of interesting information on display to be sure, but with 20% of the chart displaying information that excludes one of the two things being compared, it's not a good representation of what the title suggests.
On a chart showing male female disparity for types of cancer, ovarian and testicular would be just as irrelevant as the bottom fifth of this admissions chart.
In that last sentence of my comment, I was referring to a hypothetical cancer chart, as a comparison to the chart of this post and the inherent uselessness of including information that cannot be experienced by everyone.
Yeah this is a super pointless list because it's obvious they cherry picked data points to make the graph look dramatic.
This is why I hate this whole issue. For decades we use male and man and female and woman interchangeably. But now theres all sorts of people just waiting to pounce with "Well, actually....". And then, if you do say male, its fine. But if you say female, you get "Oh, look. Another incel saying female!!".
Seems like its not about communicating effectively, and more about just shitting all over things people say for worthless internet points. We all know what you meant. And it was a good point. But here we are, side stepping into this mess instead of staying focused on your point. Its all just so silly.
As a cyclist I both love and hate how many separate ones there are
Part of my job is fitting people with custom bracing in the trauma ward. I realized this wasn't the US because there were so many cyclists, and it was lacking an atv category.
In my state the trauma ward has an ATV season. Also, I'm surprised there wasn't a subcategory for pool injuries, or at least a category for slip and falls. Are swimming pools not very popular in the UK?
General slip-and-fall doesn't seem like it would be highly gendered.
The amount of falls I'm guessing is fairly similar, but older women are a lot more likely to end up in the trauma ward from it. For one there are just more old women than old men in my area and they are far more likely to have osteoporosis.
Do you find pool injuries are overwhelmingly one sex?
I generally see a lot more young men and boys from injuries from the pool. More rough housing, diving, and running around on wet concrete.
We just go to the local puddle during the rainy season, typically between January and December.
And at the opposite end of the spectrum, how many elements for pregnancy there are as well! (And no specific Delivery, but Outcome of Delivery. Do people in US not usually give birth in a hospital?)
Edit: Not US but England
In the US the hospital is most common but there is a growing movement for alternative birth methods, birthing centers, at home births, being strapped to a wall and having crystals shot at you until your baby just sort of materializes, etc
I know a number of home-birthed people, including myself, and I could not describe a single parent of theirs as being anti-science. Also this graph is from English hospital admissions so cost/bills would never ever enter the equation.
Amethysts and essential oils. Men know there is only one essential oil.... WD40.
This chart is for people in England.
Explains the lack of gunshots compared to stabbings.
lol, someone downvoted your candid opinion.
this chart is for anyone interested in charts, don't gatekeep charts!
This is NHS England data, so not likely to be affected by whether people in the US usually give birth in a hospital.
Birth centers are incredibly common now. And home births are preferred among certain people, like anti-vaxers and sovereign citizens
Seriously. As a downhill biker I count at least 5 lines for me:
Cyclist, Object Collision Cyclist, Other Cyclist, Non Collision Accident Assault, Sharp object (my shins and calves are constantly being torn up by my fucking pedals. fuck those grip screws) Struck by sports equipment
And how many admissions compared to motorcycles there are.
Looks like women are too busy with all that sex stuff to get out on their motorbikes.
At least the horsegirl population vastly outnumbers the horseboys...
The men who aren't getting involved in motorcycle accidents are getting them pregnant. It's just natural selection.
at least 1000 entries.
Females have arses too…
I live in a town which has a hospital that supports a large geographical area and as such is a major employer in the town. Many of my friends work there.
It’s always men.
hi, husband here
i am the arse
You’re saying that it’s apparently a male only issue if you think it should be on the men’s side.
Would it be surprising, no, but it’s probably gonna be a pretty even split.
Fake news.
the gays are trying their hardest and will keep trying to impregnate their partners but the government keeps tying to stop them for some reason.
Because pregnant men would be pretty OP.
Brand new sentence.
Huh.
Horse girls are a bigger part of the horse riding population than I thought
My girlfriend's sister has a horse and I refuse to go near it. It's a two ton object being operated by a pea of a brain, he once got into a panic because his friend was behind him and he couldn't see him, so he ran around the field madly until he collided with a stationary tree. Oh and he's scared of blue wheelbarrows, just blue ones, wheelbarrows of any other colour or apparently acceptable.
He has already stood on her foot once.
Horses are fucking creepy.
Right? They walk around on single fingers and are born with weird tentacles over their hooves
two ton
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Sorry, that was an arrogant way of phrasing it.
What the hell kind of breed is two tons? The heaviest ones I know get up to about one ton, but those are big, heavy working horses, not the average riding horse.
Most horses won't be even a single ton. There are a few breeds of working horses that do get up to a ton, but most regular riding horses are a half ton, on average.
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Our icelandic horse has also stood on my foot once, but she's only about 300kg (600lbs) and didn't put much of it on that foot before I shooed her off.
Also, she's super calm about damn near everything.
First encounter with a motorised shear? Eyes wide open for a few seconds, then she's already out of fucks to give.
Shenanigans trying to craft a costume for her result in a piece of cloth suddenly covering her eyes? Eh, my humans will know what they're doing. Actually, can I eat that? Nope, apparently not. Lame.
The worst she'll do when something actually does scare her is stand up straight, refuse to move closer and rarely attempt to put a little more distance. She might unexpectedly sidestep a weird object on the roadside, but not so rapidly as to dismount my wife, and she's never run away in a panic that I know of.
And if you scratch her right, she basically melts. Scratch her ears, she'll relax her lower lip like she's losing control of her face muscles. Scratch her butt, she'll lean into it. Back away, she'll follow. It's the only case I've ever seen of a horse happily walking backwards.
Just by asking what breed such a horse could possibly be, you've exemplified more horse related knowledge than most people possess. Two tons is pretty obviously a guess by someone that doesn't know a lot about horses or other animals of similar size.
Not much different to how most people would be wrong when estimating the weight of a building, the volume of the ocean, or the quantity of trees on the planet. If it's something unfamiliar to you, you can't be expected to be accurate.
You know what, you're right. I didn't consider the perspective of people less familiar with the topic. I don't consider myself particularly knowledgeable, but that doesn't mean my knowledge is fundamental or ubiquitous.
Consider yourself lucky. We were digging the ground with shovels near a horse park where they had a competition. A river separates the two areas.
They asked us to stop because the horses were freaking out.
Maybe they include elephants in the "horse" category?
In the lord of the rings a lot of the extras on horses are women with fake beards because of this
This is embarrassing to men. You're suppose to walk off those sorts of injuries.
Indeed, I walked off my incidental pregnancy.
Men don't do well on two wheels.
Considering how overwhelmingly male every biker group I've seen is I'd say it's more that
Yeah. That and pregnancy. Don't even get me started on riding a motorcycle while pregnant. Might as well just ride that bike down to the morgue.
Okay but what if I turned a coffin into a motorcycle? Does the bad luck even out or am I just taunting Death?
I don't know, but it would look pretty badass
Most fun things are.
less the bicycles, unless I read the numbers incorrectly because I couldn't be bothered to spend longer
People taking too much muscle relaxants.
Maybe Botox?
Huffing paint?
My interpretation was drugs which are CNS depressants or paralytics. A benzo overdose presumably falls into this category, maybe also opioids. It can't include alcohol though, because people drinking until paralytic is not an overwhelmingly female phenomenon (I believe it is currently pretty even)
Shoot from the hip with no explanation....
Not seeing anything inherently wrong with the data viz (obviously not talking about the veracity of the data itself or its geographic/linguistic scope as that's another matter).
Would you elaborate what you mean?
if you are going to bring up comparisons based on sex, you pollute the data including things that ONLY can possibly effect one sex. what good is it to compare how much post pregnancy care effects women vs men? or to have half the comparisons divvy all the different ways you can classify a motor cycle accident, where there is the same outcome for all of them.
I assume it is based on data of people being admitted to hospitals, as titled. So my guess is this is more about how the medical system breaks the data down, and they selected for the highest disparities of reported sex.
seems to point to men getting hurt based on high risk behavior or professional expectation. but women seem to be arriving for biological functions.
though honestly if you consider child birth both a high risk behavior and and societal expectation then the comparison is valid, but more clarity on the why it’s like this would help.
Probably less than 1000 cases
For now. I'll see if I can fix that this weekend. Do you think multiple visits by the same person for the same issue count as one or multiple?
I don't know how their dataset is filtered, but I suspect it should count as multiple.
If they rerun the analysis next year and I see the figure pop up, I'll know whose sacrifice to honour.
I think they should be separate. Like if a woman gives birth twice in one year (ow) that would be two visits.
Can width of bars be changed based on number of visits? The pregnancy related ones probably skew the data. I know pie charts are terrible but could they be useful in this case?
Yes. It's shown on the right, and ought to have bee sorted by that.
Also, notice the bottom text, that it excludes all cases where neither gender is more than 80%, so only extreme differences are shown.
It's carefully chosen to show some point, which might be interesting in some context, but not really interesting by itself without context.
Trans men? But there aren't that many I think.
Since the pregnancy is at 100%, I believe it's afab vs amab
Maybe a trans woman who was AMAB but had bottom surgery?
Wouldn’t be capable of pregnancy but might need a gynecologist?
This is all my guess - I don’t know much about these topics.
you usually see a gynecologist for pap smears once a year, but there might be one willing to do prostate exams for post-op trans women ... usually trans affirming gynecologists are for pro-op trans men
maybe post-op trans women would see a gynecologist, just not sure what for
edit: looking it up, a gynecologist is recommended for post-op trans women, looks like a gynecologist can even function as a primary care doctor!
Common reasons to go include treating granulation, checking for yeast infections and STIs, and performing pelvic exams which might catch potential cancers.
The full title of that entry is actually "Obstetric and gynaecological devices associated with adverse incidents", so maybe some of the men are actually the OB/GYN themselves that are getting injured in the course of their work? The raw number is only 19 cases, so I could see that being plausible
Alternatively, with so few cases, could it be intersex people who are still categorised as male under whatever criteria this is using? 1.7% seems a touch high for that, but maybe things go wrong more often for said intersex people
Edit: wait, 90 of the cases are 0-year-olds. I'm definitely going with injuries to babies during difficult births / C-sections / similar
No. May my organs be of good use to someone more intelligent and useful.
Because men cannot give birth, they engage in other types of high-risk activities, such as riding a motorcycle.
Seriously though, what's a procreative management?
IUD's
Don't mix those up with IED's. Believe me.
Probably hurts about the same.
Just dont drive drunk...
Did you actually mix up contracteptives and driving undert the influence?
I would never!
Vasectomy I guess for guys, having your tubes tied for women.
Because men cannot give birth
some can :3
I thought there’d be more “remove foreign object from up bum”.
That might be unisex.
The full data set (easily found on leobenedictus.substack.com) includes "Foreign body entering into or through eye or natural orifice". It's pretty evenly split, only leaning towards men by a few percentage points
Are those "prophylactic surgery"?
Mental note: stop brandishing scimitar while motorcycling.
The women have an unfair advantage. They get classes on the subject.
Doctors concluded this leads to hysteria
Only the ones who knew how to duck.
Why ride in a tank and fight at a distance if you could wear a tank and ride a motorbike at breakneck speed to close into melee range? For the Khan and the Emperor!
Well it's side effects. So a lot of people don't know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it's actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
wondering why that would be a primarily "female reason" for admission, then - wouldn't drugs that impact breathing or muscles be administered or accessible to men as well?
Someone else suggested date rape drugs, that seems like a possibility - but is it typical for date rape drugged victims to end up in the hospital such that "agents acting on muscles and breathing" becomes the reason for admission? Just doesn't make sense, tbh
Well it's probably side effects from prescription drugs. So a lot of people don't know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it's actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
To be fair, white males are the default of humanity...
/s (damn humanity and their conceited blindspots!!)
Allergic reaction to substances (agents) causing paralysis, asphyxiation, shock, etc
Someone above explained it better, but women are more likely to have unwanted and even dangerous side effects from medications because most meds were only ever properly tested on white men.
The men just rub a little dirt in their lungs
Because guys are too fucking dumb to go to the hospital for something like not being able to breathe. I'm sure the statistic couldn't breathe, tried to walk it off, regained consciousness the next morning in a ditch next to road, just went home, is probably just as full of guys as the other statistic was full of girls.
the psychiatric one is interesting.
i seeked out care because i knew what was going on with me was not normal. when i was there, i saw one women in the holding area, and one man having a break with secuirty around him. when i was admitted to the psych ward on the floor without maximum security, id say that biologically born males out numbered biologically born females
Howevever, i have been the hospital for other things, and everytime i have gone to the ER, it's been someone who identifies as a female 99% of the time who i see is waiting to goto the psych hold. so its interesting to see that reflected in the statistics.
This is for being admitted to the hospital though, not counselling. Inpatient psychiatric care is pretty serious stuff.
I think this is the source, also better image quality (in Boost at least it looks super compressed).
Ok, so what I am hearing is that I can significantly reduce the risk of motorcycle injuries by not being a man? Like how far do I need to go here, because if its just dressing in drag, it may be just the supporting data I will need to convince my wife to let me have a motorcycle "just one more time"
From this data, it would seem that being not a man increases the likelihood of horse accidents though.
Ok ok, so I lose 1 horse power in favour of some ending in RR... Deal!
dont tell me who to love, dad!
unlike you, the lawnmover loves me to bits!
The thing with lawnmowers is most commonly it's either they reached in to clear a blockage or it's a ride on lawnmower that rolled. Seriously rolling a lawnmower is super deasly (same goes for ATVs)
It's a bit surprising to me that mowing the lawn is a male thing, my assumption is that it would be stereotyped to women because it is a maintenance task and for some reason women are stereotyped as the ones doing those.
P.S. "stereotype" seems like the wrong word here but can't think of anything better
So… gynecological devices has some amount of males?
Men are dumb and put things in wrong places.
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Or maybe they’re just safer when they ride. “Cyclist, object collision” sounds like it’s basically always the cyclist’s fault given the other available categories, like someone riding too fast and hitting a stationary object.
There's twice as many non-collision accidents as all the collision categories combined. People just wiping out, which definitely sounds like too fast for the turn, showboating, etc. Not that women can't do all that - it just feels like much more stereotypically male behavior.
Perhaps they do but in a more sensible manner.
I'd be super curious to see how much of that is food delivery bikers. In my city, they are everywhere but I'm not dude I've ever seen a woman doing it. But in terms of reckless cycling, those delivery folks are way over represented (which makes sense, their income depends on speed.)
People don't cycle that much overall, due to perception and poor infrastructure, but yeah it's also skewed by gender. My impression is that the public perception of poor safety is something that most people are exposed to, but weighs more heavily on women.
They're expendable for the glory of our car-centric society
Looks like it's cancer prevention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophylactic_surgery
tube tying?
meanwhile vasectomy is an outpatient procedure so not as many hospital visits?
Repairing butthole after rough anal?
This you?
It was right up his alley. Was trying to open the package and couldn't figure out how to get it apart. Decided I needed to level up to the BFK (big fucking knife). The packaging (and the knife) won that battle, but I eventually won the war when I realized the packaging was threaded on my return from the ER. Could have just twisted it. Derp
The amount of lawnmower injuries...
It reminded me of 1000 Ways To Die
Interesting, especially with the numbers on the right. Good chart.
I expected more foreign object in rectum
Possibly for breast cancer? Men can get breast cancer, it's just not as common
Maybe vasectomy clips count?
I have a hard time believing that not a single trans man has been to the hospital for a pregnancy.
I have an easy time believing that it rounds to 100.0 at 3 sig figs 1dp though
Would 99.9% really have been that confusing?
It's not about it being confusing, everything is only displayed to at most one decimal place. If the number is 99.95 or higher it is 100 at that precision.
It's using "gender" as people used to 10+ years ago, as a synonym for "sex." They never got the memo. (1) It's clearly labeled male and female, which aren't genders, (2) there's only two categories instead of dozens as there would be for gender
Assault and two wheels. Things dudes should strive to avoid.
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On the one hand, all the pregnancy-related items are of course very important -- but they're not particularly illuminating on a list like this. If there was a "Testicular Torsion" item marked as 100% male, that wouldn't really tell me much here either.
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