Stop bringing your phone in the shower: How steam can ruin 'waterproof' phones
22 days ago by muelltonne to c/technology
I do it all the time. Before smart phones were a thing I had a water proof shower radio. Now I use the phone for the same thing. Mostly listening to news or a podcast or something. Sometime it's a Nebula video, but in the shower I'd just be listening to it like a podcast anyway. Before phones were waterproof I used to use a waterproof Bluetooth speaker.
I've never had steam cause a problem, but then again my showers aren't long, aren't very hot and my phone is kept pretty high up and out of the way.
my showers aren’t long
So, why... oh, forget it.
Everyone uses their phones while eating or pooping. Those activities don't take long either. I choose to listen to something while showering.
It's ok if you don't understand it or do it yourself, but some people take their phone into the shower. It is a thing.
I like to sometimes take a break from my phone while pooping and read a product label, like the olden times
Would recommend every now and then
"Everyone" does not use their phone while eating or pooping. I make an effort to engage with mine as little as possible, in a perfect world checking it when I wake up when I get home and before bed. For me the phone is a weird mix of useful tool and addictive drug, almost impossible to drop entirely but very much worth limiting access to. Constant stimulation is certainly a choice you can make, but probably not a healthy one. I view what you're doing the same way you might view someone saying they always drink a beer in the shower.
or pooping
Those activities don't take long
That's a strange assumption here
Pooping takes forever 🥺 and please don't say fiber. There's no room left for more 💀
Like a few other commenters, I had never even thought that taking your phone into the shower was a thing until I saw this post.
Just... why? Why risk it? Your average smart phone is anywhere from $500 to over $1000, so what's so important that you're deliberately exposing it to water and the risk of dropping it (especially if you're using shampoo, conditioner, soap or any other bathroom product designed to act as a cleaning agent)? Surely whatever it is can wait however long it is you're showering for?
Personally, I wouldn't want a friend/relative/whatever phoning me or answering the phone if they were in the shower or using the bathroom.
I can understand one of the other comments about using it to listen to podcasts/music/videos/etc., and at least in that case the phone is presumably far enough away (and not being regularly accessed) that it's at lower risk. Fair enough -- I sometimes do that whilst washing dishes. Still, I think I'd struggle trying to listen to something whilst actively showering -- too much other noise.
Put a bluetooth speaker in the shower instead of your phone; it's not like you can work the screen with wet hands anyway.
SInce my speaker stopped working, I've taken to putting the phone in a plastic baggie hanging from the curtain rod between the curtains.
The speaker on my Pixel 7 is plenty loud, but so is the water in the shower.
I also listen to podcasts, which are usually mixed quieter than music, and require more volume to pick up quieter consonants.
Just let them masturbate in peace will ya
Not the person you replied to but I can hear it just fine....but I would rather not hear music at all than to hear it muffled through a shower curtain and a waterfall.
Speaker's gotta be IN the shower or I'm singing my own songs
The shower is the one place where I can have some peace and switch off. No news, no noise, no immediate crises that need solving. Just listen to the running water, enjoy for a bit, feel a little bit more relaxed and clean afterwards. A phone would achieve the exact opposite.
I read my daily web fiction in the shower while I wake up. My iPhone 10 is still going strong after all these years of steam. Hell, it’s been dropped several times.
Yeah it’s a little weird, but we’ve all gotta cope in this world
I had a "waterproof" e reader that was sitting in the bathroom directly opposite the shower for a week, the battery got fucked up and the case popped off
Doesn't sound like that's related
Meh. I started doing this with my iPod 10 ish years ago, continued it with an Android that had no IP rating, and still do it with an IP-rated flagship. Over daily showers all that time I have yet to drop or have one fail. I have also used them in the rain on occasion. If something happens I will consider a 1 in 3,000 occurence not bad.
Same. I like to listen to music or podcasts in the shower sometimes. I'm not standing in the water with my phone but sometimes it gets wet because I change sometime. I've never had an issue
Who the fuck pays 500 bucks for a phone? It's a fucking phone. You gotta make phone calls and get spied by Google and everything, that's all I see.
It's fine, my screens need conditioner
In case you don't actually know anybody under the age of about 35, the next time you are riding a bus or are a passenger in a car, start watching other drivers and see how many of them literally cannot put their phones down. Like even if they aren't actually looking at them while they drive, which is like a solid 30% of all drivers, another significant chunk is holding the phone even when not in use. The shower is not even a high bar at this point.
Wouldn't advise them to do that if they rent a car in Norway. The fine is about $1100 if they're caught, plus three points on the license.
We have fines and demerit points where I live, but they don't seem to be enforced often. Our cops are too busy...uh, I don't actually even know, but we sure pay them a lot (as an organization). Traffic enforcement seems to have gone down quite significantly in the past few years.
Laughs in South Australia.
$592 + Victims of Crime levy = $700 fine if you're caught using your phone while driving or stopped at a intersection (inc. red light)
You're only allowed to use a phone mounted in a cradle for Audio calls and GPS navigation. (Uber, etc is a grey area)
Don't use your phone while driving. Just don't do it.
How else am I going to clean the phone after using it while I shit?
Obviously you do what 99.99999999% of people do. Nothing. Never clean it. Ever. From the day you buy it. At most you wipe the screen with some water. Maybe windex.
Source: Repaired cell phones for years.
To listen to music. Have you never tried that? It's awesome.
Came here to say just that. I'm a grown ass man, I just take me in the showed.
To be honest, that's a very expensive solution to feed what sounds like an internet addiction. I have a Pixel 8 Pro too, and it's still in as-new condition. I'll keep it till it breaks by itself
Cool. I'm very happy for you.
Of all addictions to have it could be worse. But it's actually the opposite. I love long warm showers - something about the water hitting my back whilst sitting on a stool that feels very relaxing. I have video essays going whilst I do that.
It's not about you I guess mate.
Plenty of people do it though.
The neat thing is you don't have to read everything that doesn't necessarily affect you.
Probably the same people who drink beer in their shower.
Wait, are the !showerthoughts@lemmy.world people really posting from the shower?!
Can't see mirror due to steam so need to use the phone selfie cam ofc :>
But that isn't in the shower, it's in the bathroom.
I didn't know people did that
same, i would think people put it in a ziplock bag with water abosrbent packs at the least.
Phone is the new heroin. Haven't you heard?
Yes. YouTube.
Literally, i put on like a podcast or 10min science video or something to listen to while i shower. Gotta be dopamine maxing
Your username kills me. I literally just watch that episode yesterday 🤣🤣
Me.
Not often, because I like bathing and using phone is wasting your water relaxation time. But, I do use it sometimes when I want music or am in the middle of something and also need or want to take a shower or bath.
Phone reading in the bath is amazing.
To be clear, I also have always strived for completely waterproof cases.
Obsessed people
I will set some music, but I also don't have a humidity problem in my bathroom.
Who the hell takes their phone into the shower?
I do listen to music in the shower, lmao
I take my waterproof Bluetooth speaker inside the shower, and leave my phone in the other room
Even if I didn’t have a speaker, you don’t need to have your phone in the shower with you to be able to hear it
I have a marsboy, and it is on the sink, not in the shower. But then again, I also leave the door open and the exhaust on, so the mirror doesn't fog. But I honestly wouldn't take anything with a screen in there.
However, I did have a airpod fall out of my left ear and it dropped in the toilet. Due to its "sleek design" it took me a good five minutes to retrieve it. Kept it separated from activation and tried it out over a few hours. Surprisingly, it still works.
But it does remind me of a coworker who had an iPod Touch and bragged that he had found the perfect pocket: his breast pocket. That same day, he destroyed in when it fell in the toilet.
I cheered him up by sending him the IT Crowd episode where Moss did the same thing with his cell phone.
Yeah, disgusting that you need constant media and disgusting that you spend that much time in the shower.
It takes me about 20 minutes to shower, shave, brush my teeth, and dress, but in all fairness, I pick out my clothes before I go to bed.
I think it's pretty common to take a wank in the shower, but I suppose others use it for music or radios
Pretty common? I guess if you want clogged drains.
Why should it clog anything?
Dear lord, talk to a plumber. Ejaculate becomes more vicous when heat is applied. Your shower drain probably looks like the president's arteries. And it sticks to hair. You are going to have an embarrassing discussion with the plumber, buddy.
I've been doing this for around 10 years, have very hot, steamy showers and never had a problem 🤷
Started with the Samsung Galaxy S7, one of the earlier water resistant phones, and I've been doing it ever since, across maybe 5 phones, almost every day. You'll be fine. If you are worried about drops, just use a decent case.
As for why, others have said, it's to keep listening to my YouTube video essays and similar. Stuff that doesn't need to be seen to be appreciated.
It has varied. I used to keep them 1-2 years when they used to improve a lot year-to-year. The last 2 phones I've had 3 years each.
After I'm done with it, I hand my phone over to my brother, who runs it into the ground over the course of the next 3 or so years, until it's almost unusably slow. My brother does the shower thing too, but less often. Maybe 30% of the time and less steamy.
It's possible that there could be gradual, over time damage. Rust growing until it forms a short. But that's not been my experience.
Ultimately, it's up to you if you want to take the risk, but given how I treated mine, if you even did this half as often as I did, you're probably fine.
I didn't mention this above, but I sometimes also used the phone inside the shower. Clicking the next video or checking a message notification. Maybe 1 in 8 days.
I've also sometimes washed the crud off the phone under the sink, rather than my normal approach with isopropyl alcohol. The worst I'd get is a notification saying I couldn't charge for a bit, or the speaker sounding funny for half an hour or so.
You might call me crazy, but I don't like to baby my stuff. I paid for water resistance, I'm going to make use of it.
I am the same way, and I didn’t know it would upset so many people lol. And it’s not a phone addiction thing either, I’m just having a comfy relaxing time in the shower and that may include having some entertainment.
Always wild concept to me. People bringing their $1000 electronics into an environment not made for them. Like come on, how long are you in the shower, do you really need to be entertained while washing your body?
Tech addiction is tough. When people don't like their environment they try to escape it and unfortunately the black mirror is there waiting for them. It's not productive but it provides comfort.
Honestly. Been doing brief 1 hour no tech time at home now and it's crazy how many times my girlfriend and I will do something, finish a conversation, etc, and then just go "well fuck" because we both sat at a computer or in a phone usage spot out of habit.
you can find plenty of phones for $100-$400
Plenty of new phones in say the US for $100? LOL Sureee.
you don't need new phones, and I personally have purchased new phones (horrible carrier locked smartphones) for about $20 about 3 years ago.
Back before smartphones, when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it, there was a rumor going around. Kids with friends in Japan were hearing that people over there had waterproof cellphones and would be talking while in the shower. We were super jealous, not for shower talking, but for the feature. I’d think ICP rated phones today should be able to handle some humidity.
There are Insane Clown Posse rated phones!? I need one of those because I keep killing mine because I spill Faygo on it.
when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it,
This sentence fragment really threw me for a loop lol... It took a minute, but I got there eventually.
That's where all the best ideas come from!
I've done it before. Time-constrained, watching something interesting.
These days I'll shower with a resistant earbud in, listening to music. I shower early/late and don't want the music to wake my partner. (probably less likely than the shower itself, but that's how i roll)
Notthst I'm cheating with other women (seriously who can be bothered) my phone is locked with my fingerprint. As much as we share a lot in life I have not given her copies of my fingerprints so she couldn't unlock the phone anyway. In theory she knows the passcode but since she asks me for it every single time she needs to use my phone I'm recently confident she doesn't retain it.
My last partner and I had fingerprints on each other's devices just for convenience sake, mostly so that we can text on each other's behalf while the other was driving or in case of an emergency situation.
I would argue doing this right takes way more Trust than just keeping the boundaries up , and that I wouldn't prescribe it for most couples.
Nah hold on.
Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?
If I had to give that shit up then I want the damn feature. Otherwise waterproof speakers exist and we never had to give up anything.
the one person who downvoted this loves corporate abuse and spending money on dumb shit.
Every few years? Brave of you to assume that after owning them for 6 months or so I haven't sent all of my wireless earbuds through the wash because I didn't feel them in the pocket when doing laundry.
Now I'm using over ear wireless headphones because I can't mistakenly wash a huge set of cans.
Side note: I can wash your mom's huge set of cans
Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?
Because said waterproofing was for accidental, rare incidents of exposure, such that you have enough time to yank it somewhere safe before water penetrated.
Waterproofing was never meant for intentional, repeated, or extended exposure to extreme environments. That’s what waterproof cases are for. You know, the kind that allow your phone to go intentionally into water.
I listen to The Daily podcast or audiobooks. The phone goes into a little 3D printed holder to keep it dry and redirect the sound. I’ve done this for years with multiple phones, never any issues.
Even though modern iPhones are “waterproof” I like to keep it as dry as possible. The touchscreen stops working reliably if it gets wet, and the speakers can get blocked by water droplets and reduces the volume.
It’s also worth noting that living in the PNW requires using the bathroom fan to keep the moisture down. The bathroom never gets that steamy, which I’m sure drastically changes the moisture exposure equation.
In the bathroom in general, I can understand. Even without a fan, the steam rarely reaches countertop height, so putting it on the countertop or the lid of the toilet or something else low still makes sense if you are in the shower.
My issue lies in having it IN the shower, and having it taking the moisture straight in the teeth. Like… why?? It’s not like it is impossible to hear from next to the shower, well out of the way of said moisture.
Why? Mostly, so I can control it if an episode ends but also for max volume over the shower sounds. When I travel and don’t have a good place for it, I will use a nearby toilet or counter.
Same. Geez Lemmy really gets up on a pedestal about this.
I hate hearing my own thoughts and everything's depressing right now. Listening to music instead of my own thoughts is considered a plus.
I mean I do bring the phone into the bathroom to listen to music, but I use it with a bluetooth speaker and it stays on the sink. Why would you even bring it inside the shower? Capacitive touch screens work like shit when wet.
I have a stand opposite where it stays dry. My shower is fairly big and I put it where the shampoo and conditioner is and it's where the wall is ... I'd never keep it wet.
I don't touch the screen. I just listen to things. I could just leave it on the counter.
if you can't be alone with your own thoughts you need therapy. not an insult. if you can't stand what kind of person you are to the point that your thoughts are toxic, talk to someone. seriously.
I've been to therapy, many times ... yes, I'm suffering, yes I'm trying to improve and no it isn't easy and I'm going through something rough really right now.
I have a lot of friends around me and no one to turn to but yeah, I'm not looking for an online consult right now (as in I'm not holding you or any other Lemmy socially hostage about this). I just can't bear my own thoughts right now.
[edit] thanks though from across the Internet, I do appreciate it [/edit]
A lot of people in Japan supposedly, at least that's what someone told me once. Apparently JDM smartphones had waterproofing way before others because of that.
My thoughts too.
Do people not understand how electronics react to water?
I’m surprised Nokia never made a sauna-proof phone
I go for hour-long walks around my neighborhood every day. The number of people who walk staring at their phones is surprising to me.
I have brought my phone into the bathroom (not shower) exactly twice, in my entire life.. and both times it was because I was expecting a vitally important call, and could not wait for the call to come before getting in the shower.
I can not imagine the necessity of regularly taking your phone into the goddamn shower itself
No, I dont walk around my house with my phone in my pocket.
And so at work?
Someone saw the movie Jexi.
I've never even heard of the word Jexi.
Its a movie about AI phone. The dude takes into the shower with him. Pretty hilarious movie.
Ive brought my phone into the shower for decades and it has not caused any problems ever.
I mean i kinda get it i take fifteen minute showers but ill put on a video helps me keep time too so i know how long i been in there. I also don't take super hot showers so there's no steam, idk maybe yeah if i had the shower all the way hot it'd be a problem but i take a nice hot shower and there's not much steam idk
Tbf, since I have done this some 2-3 times:
Some special shampoos require you to be sitting there for like 10 minutes until it does its thing. I thought it was safe since water was no longer coming out of the shower, I didn't consider the high humidity environment.
Washing and rinsing doesn't take that long. I usually shave or clean the shower while I wait, and even that doesn't take long enough sometimes
Some hair dyes can have you standing there for 10 or 20 minutes.
Sometimes just enjoying the steam is nice. It's taking a lot of Blood Sweat and Tears to build a modern world, we are fortunate to have hot safe water on top. I'm going to spend my time and money standing under the boiling shower head and enjoy myself for far longer than everyone else is going to decide is reasonable, I'm going to keep reading and listening while I do so.
'special shampoo'
is that your code for jackin' it in the shower?
Feels so awkward to jack off in the shower. I much prefer doing it sitting in the toilet.
When I say special shampoo I mean it. Like the one time my dog got fleas so I used anti-flea dog shampoo just in case. It took forever.
I find it meditative... washing the nooks, rinsing, etc. I do, sometimes, run music outside on a counter with a door open.
In the actual shower, where the water is? Who does that?
Me. I have a phone mount installed in the shower. I need my dopamine receptors to be constantly stimulated from artificial sources, or I can't accomplish basic tasks like cleaning/showering/cooking. Executive Dysfunction is a bitch.
People with normal dopamine levels just can't relate, so I get a lot of flack and am often called lazy. Which is annoying as hell because I genuinely want to be a functioning adult, but my stubborn brain just refuses to let me accomplish anything without external stimulation. It's torture being labeled something you're not, just because someone can't understand what it's like when your brain won't make the reward chemicals on its own. But it is what it is.
Also BTW I've been doing this for a decade and only once has a phone actually died on me from water damage. So I don't worry about it. I'm clumsy so I always have an insurance plan for my phones regardless...
Stimulants like Adderall, PEA, Octodrine, and Propylhexedrine are a half decent band-aid, but they raise my blood pressure and make me feel "tweaky" so I don't want to take them every day. They feel like they're slowly killing me. I mean imagine taking meth every single day. That's what it feels like for me. Unfortunately since tolerance builds rapidly, I have to take massive doses for it to continue working, further compounding the problem.
So I try not to take stims more than a few times a month, because even once a week is too much for me. It sucks ass that there's no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.
Man adderall gave me psychosis that landed me in a mental hospital. I’m also a non functional adult and I’m trying to unfuck my document situation here in Hell America. I do agree that yeah; stimulants are bad especially if you are like me. Who is prone to bouts of insanity because on stims you really can’t really control your own thoughts anymore. It’s a terrifying experience and honestly it’s not that that uncommon to have ADD or ADHD and be a bit psychotic. Especially worse with the OCD that I used to have with it. But you know at least I had a super friendly dog and grandparents to take care of me and a Nintendo Switch. I got over it eventually but I never wanna go through that experience ever again. Though I do appreciate having the ability to sleep for an entire year essentially through a winter. Being in a dark room also helped a lot. It kinda feels like a fever dream when I remember it now though. I should probably go back on anti psychotics after my most recent break with stimulants. Shame I don’t have money or health insurance.
It sucks ass that there’s no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.
There is exciting research being done in metabolic psychiatry looking at ADHD in fat adapted people. There is a ongoing study (https://doi.org/10.1186/ISRCTN62698625) but there is a good expectation they will see sustained results, this is inline with Dr. Georgia Ede's metabolic strategy in Change your Diet Change your mind. The study authors gave a interview 2 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAbqXcSAzg , so maybe we will see the results published soon.
infographic of change your diet, change your mind
TLDR - metabolism and brain energy appear to be the core of many psychiatric conditions, so its worth trying a fat burning metabolism for 30 days and see if it improves your ADHD.
Can we just take a moment to say, it is insane to me that the general public would prescribe drugs onto a neurospicy person just so that they felt normal about their predisposition and judgmental about everyone else's in how they use their assistive technology?
Sometimes I want to have a wank and a wash immediately after
I do, setting it in the corner makes the acoustics great for playing music
You have showers with water?
Why people so judgmental. I'm sure y'all do shit others find more weird than having your phone in the shower.
I floss and brush in the shower. I just get so impatient standing at the sink for so long. Shower is relaxing, though, so I do a much better job in there.
Add me to the list of people who just learned that anybody takes their phone into the shower regularly.
From reading the comments though, it seems to be a mix of phone/stimulation-addicted people and people who aren't. But I'm skeptical of those who claim they aren't.
I used to have a perfectly working system with a waterproof bag-thing for the phone and a bluetooth speaker somewhere outside of the shower so I could watch youtube videos while just chilling in the shower.
Also had one of those long 1920s cigarette holders so I could smoke a joint in there. I made a good time out of it.
one of those long 1920s cigarette holders so I could smoke a joint
You son of a bitch, I'm in.
Hop on loser, we're gonna take a shower.
mfg this one broke the code at last
I have always enjoyed quiet showers. I dont need to consume content during every activity.
I wish I had your brain. I feel like unless I have a constant stream of information coming into my brain, I might go insane.
It’s awful, and unhealthy, and I’m trying to figure out how to escape this paranoid insanity, but it’s what I’ve got until I can figure out the fix. Reminds me, need to schedule my next therapist appointment.
Exercise:
Set a timer for 1 minute.
Sit down and do nothing.
Do that every day. After a while, you'll adjust and it wont be painful. Then do 2 minutes. Then do 5. Then do 15. Every day.
Here's what happened:
You've lived your entire life in a bowl of cocaine. You were born into it. When your parents wanted a break, they gave you some coke. When you were good, they gave you some coke. After you completed your homework, you were allowed a little coke. When you grew up, if you feel tired, or feel like you don't want to do something, you can have a little nose candy to recharge.
If you want to stop using so much cocaine, you can't just go cold turkey. You need to start by being able to survive one minute at a time without it.
It's easy to just remove the bowl of cocaine and not use cocaine. But that's not going to help you practice choosing not to do cocaine when it is available.
The only way to get better is to stop consuming content! Choose a weekend, tell your friends you will be out of touch, and turn off your phone for a couple of days (if you can't do that, just shut off WIFI and data so you can still text/call). It really won't be as bad as you think, and you might even like it - but you will have to do stuff to occupy your hands. Cook, walk, read easy books, exercise, etc.
Belive me, I’ve tried. I’m an asssitant scoutmaster for my kids troop, and we camp about monthly in the summer. So, I’ve got lots of phone free weekends behind me. I’m also got kids in sports too, so go to games and meets.
I’m taking steps but I still have work to do.
Don't take big steps. Take small ones.
In the running world, there's this thing called "Couch-to-5k". Its a progran that can literally take you from square one - the couch - to a non-stop 5k run. Its all about small gains and slow incremental progress.
A few small conscious efforts to disconnect from your phone every day, even for 15 mins at a time, will slowly add up to bigger and bigger gains over time. If you can break the impulse to check your phone by disrupting the immediate availability of your phone, you might be able to get the ball rolling pretty quickly.
Taking steps is already something. Take back those minutes when you can!
unless I have a constant stream of information coming into my brain, I might go insane
I felt the same way. It's an upbringing thing, and I'm not sure it was due to being raised poor by parents always jobbing -- dad was employed for 5 different jobs at one point. I gotta be working.
My wife was raised by parents with job security and lived in one house her entire childhood. Parents were home at 4 and then 5, and knew (and taught) healthy disagreement over contentious issues. Her whole family is a breath of fresh air vs the raccoons my family must resemble.
She took me on a vacation, like the first one I ever had. It was to the Dominican, just some resort (occidental in punta cana). I asked what our plans were while we were there, because I gotta have that calendar full.
"Nothing," she said.
"Nothing?"
"Nothing."
And we did, largely, nothing. 10 days, beach chairs and impeccable waiters at beck and call. We saw the whales and did a snorkel, and we went to the Amelia supermarket for snacks...
But really we sat and watched the ocean. We talked like spouses should, holding hands and breathing easily. There was no work, no issues, no jobs; and, above all the cost of going and staying, the big thing a trip like that did was to get us away from the churn and swirl and rumbling gnawing stress of western life.
You may not realize it, but you need some downtime: real downtime.
Don't go anywhere fancy, but turn the phone over and just be for a sec. Be you, be present, be interactive, be observant; and just breathe.
I found it life-changing. We don't go to fancy places very often, but we do reserve some time to be ourselves like that, and it's a very good thing.
Maybe it'll help for you too? Either way, I hope you find that balance and sanctuary too, so you can exist for just a calming moment without the fear of missing out on the trivia-stream.
There is two people in this thread
people who read "bringing your phone in the shower" as having the phone in the same room as the shower.
everyone else who seems to think that people are putting their phones directly under the shower nozzle.
Fucking Christ, so phone fiends can't even take 2-5 minutes to wash themselves with out getting their stimulation?
Civilization can't survive this.
If you can't take a bath without your phone you might have a problem.
I am sorry, one song? 1, uno? That is crazy for me. I am all for quick showers but unless you are like a Pink Floyd fan I would be running like crazy to finish a shower in less than 5min, unless you don't wash your hair every day which I do but I know for some types of hair people don't.
Trying to race songs is how I got much better at having quick showers. I did pick long ones like Green Grass and High Tides or Through the Fire and Flames, and it took a while to be able to beat them.
First about a minute for the water to heat up and water rinse for the whole body. Short hair, but it's like 30 seconds for shampoo, scrub, rinse, then another 30 seconds for face lather, scrub, and rinse. Then lather up a washcloth, scrub pits and groin, rinse, about 1 minute total. That still leaves two extra minutes for a 5 minute shower to shave your ass or whatever, and the two songs I listed are over 5 minutes (Over 9 for GGHT, over 7 for TFF).
If you want a 5 minute song, Muse - Uprising is 5:04. Though if you can follow the schedule I laid out above, you could shower to Toxicity and have 30 seconds of song or so after you get out of your shower.
I'll give it a try for my next shower because it does sound a bit tight and I didn't progress beyond being able to shower beyond being able to finish before TFF, but I think it's doable.
Some people have very short, or no hair.
I mean, I do both of those things.
Have the same phone for 6 years now, bring it into the shower most days, and have not had any issues.
Maybe steam has a non-zero effect but it's pretty damn close to zero..
This thread is a great reminder that Lemmy users do not represent the general public. I put a phone mount in the shower so I don't have to pause a podcast or whatever to take a shower, it's nice. I don't really love showers and struggle to stop what I'm doing to change direction, so it's one less barrier to entry. My partner and some friends who have used my shower have also appreciated it.
Well according to lemmy you are a phone addicted psychopath
Yeah but how else can I exchange shower nudes ?
Why not just use a bluetooth speaker, and leave the phone outside the bathroom? That way, if it breaks, then it's not as expensive to replace as a phone, and the audio quality is generally better than what a phone's speakers can put out.
Not in that sense, man. I'm trying to say that humans have developed an independence from cell phones. Many simple things, like going for a walk or other things, all depend on cell phones, thus creating addictions to screens and making them stronger. I'm not saying you're going to smoke your cell phone like it's a cigarette. I'm just arguing that screen addiction, whether for a short or long time, can damage your brain, making many simple things in your daily life difficult to do without a cell phone.
What about golden showers? Asking for a friend Krasnov
Maybe some of y'all shower too long.
Interesting. I got a cheap Xiaomi smartwatch a few months ago and the manual straight up says that the water resistance is good enough for basic swimming but don't bring it into a sauna or hot shower for this exact reason. (I avoid submerging it in general because I bought it secondhand and if it was refurbished that can mess up the waterproofing.)
I have been wearing my Huawei smartwatch everywhere for years. Shower, jacuzzi, surfing, etc. No problems so far.
My mi band 3 survived more than one Ocean swim. Gave it to my mum, still works. The pixel watch i replaced it with is dead, without any swimming.
I never knew there were this many people who bring phones in the shower. Where is this world going.... People chase dopamine even while showering
Y'all need to also stop taking it to take a shit. I deal with my intrusive thoughts just like you but c'mon now. Just stop the addiction at least when in the oval office. Even more so while IN PUBLIC RESTROOMS. Just stop. You're already taking the nature call. Other callers can wait.
ITT: who the fuck brings their phone in the shower?
And they’re right.
I've had this same phone since Covid, and bring it into the shower every day for podcasts, music, or YouTube videos.
Still works great! It might need charge in the evening after heavy use, but what 6 year old phone wouldn't?
i use mine when i take a shower to play music that i can use to time how long it takes. i do not have it in the shower stall with me just hooked up to a bluetooth speaker on a shelf above the toilet next to the stall. the phone itself is laid on the lavatory counter about a meter from the shower and covered by the clothes i removed prior to getting wet so it doesnt get any water at all on it
Why don't these shower-phone people just get a much cheaper and more durable waterproof speaker? I get wanting music or a podcast or whatever but I can't imagine how I would watch a video with all the soap and water everywhere
This is precisely why I waited until they released a watch and explicitly stated it is waterproof.
Guess I'll go back to putting it in a sandwich bag lol
Won't help with the heat but at least with the rest
I don't even keep my phone in my pocket when exercising because of the humidity from sweating. If I'm hiking it either goes in my pack or in a ziplock to protect it.
I haven't found that to be a problem if I put it screen side in. Except for the sweat on the screen. I've had sweat on the camera side get into the camera. I like to have it convenient to snap a picture quickly, like if there's some wildlife.
I brong it in to doomscroll whilst pooping before i shower. So its already in the room with me. But never had an issue so far.
Waterproof ≠ Heatproof, and it also doesn't guarantee chemicals and other impurities won't wreck your phone. I took my old phone into the ocean a few times because we didn't have lockers on the beach and no rental car to leave stuff in. It was rated waterproof and it survived, but it didn't want to charge for quite a while and getting the salt and sand out of the usb-c port was tedious.
My fitness watch is as happy in the pool swimming laps as it is anywhere else. I do take it off in the shower though because I don't want to clean soap scum off it or have water trapped between the watch and my wrist. It sounds like I may be inadvertently saving the battery!
Waterproof ≠ Heatproof
Also Waterproof ≠ Waterproof. Found that out the hard way with my pixel, I was taking some pictures by the pool, it went in the water, broken and no warranty for liquid damage.
My phone was $800, I think. Of COURSE I'm not taking it in to the shower!! 😧 I don’t even take it into the bathroom.
If one is this ignorant and addicted to the damn thing, plug it while you take a shower. The phone will be happy.
It’s dumb that people think water resistance and water proof are the same thing.
the first one - the LG Prada - released in 2007.
Wait what? Has Apple successfully stolen LG's valor? I could have sworn it was the iPhone in 2007.
I'm actually kind of shocked that I wasn't aware of this phone.
Edit: you know, I've never been a huge fan of Apple or Steve Jobs, and I know he pretty much stole every idea they ever had... But for some reason I always gave them credit with the iPhone.
Apparently he stole that too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada
The LG Prada was announced shortly before Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced the iPhone on 9 January 2007.[10][11][12] After the release of the iPhone the head of the LG Mobile Handset R&D Center was quoted saying he believed Apple had stolen the idea from the Prada after it was announced as part of the iF Design Award, where it won a prize in March 2007.[13][14]
The rumor is that the whole iPhone concept was actually the idea of one unnamed engineer at apple who worked on it in his spare time; apparently he had the idea at the same time as the folks at IG, probably it was kind of a natural evolution of the earlier devices. (You have to consider that the thing that made the iPhone such a success, the "app store", was not available from the beginning. The first devices had no official way of adding any software, but people quickly found hacks and added a debian-like package management to it. From there the first custom applications spawned and only then Apple understood the potential of opening the platform to third-party developers.)
Regarding the engineer, apparently he was fired by his supervisor for spending time on this "stupid" idea; but back in the day, Apple had the policy that everyone who was fired had to report to Jobs one last time, and then he showed him what he was working on and Jobs took it from there.
Who's taking showers so hot that steam comes off? A quick web search says showers should be colder than 40°, maybe up to 42.5°. Phones start thermal throttling when battery temp reaches 45°. So shower water is hotter than the recommended operating temperature of 0 °C to 35 °C, but not hotter than what the phone itself can get.
The manual says sudden changes in temperature such as the sauna may damage the water resistance.
May doesn't mean will. Mind you that the manual also says installing unofficial apps voids your warranty. I wouldn't be worried unless someone actually tests this and finds that it does cause harm.
Edit: Did I say something wrong? I don't understand the downvotes
I take showers that are predominantly 95-100% hot water.
I have very oily skin and the hot water actually clears my pores and I have less breakouts this way.
so yeah...people do take showers where steam comes off. in fact, in the winter even after I dry off, my body steam will rise from my skin for a solid 5 minutes afterwards.
the real problem here is people taking their phones in the shower with them. gross. the thing covered in fecal matter, and all sorts of other germs/microbes? and then you let other people touch it? I bet your phone is likely dirtier than your toilet seat or your outdoor shoes, and you take it in the shower with you, to what, "shower" with it??
put it down. leave it on do not disturb. and enjoy a shower disconnected from the world.
the real problem here is people taking their phones in the shower with them. gross. the thing covered in fecal matter, and all sorts of other germs/microbes?
Wait... why's it a problem? You're actually convincing me that taking it into the shower is a good thing because people can clean it off! Lol
People used to say this about having phones.
Lol what the actual fuck
Steam (i.e. the gas form of water) comes from boiling water and is mostly invisible, the clouds of vapour you see in the shower aren't "steam". I know people say that anyway, it's not the worst thing ever, but some people might be interested to learn there's a difference.
OK fair and I learned something today. But I think you'll even admit that's exceptionally pedantic.....
Temperature is an average. On average the water molecules won't be at boiling temp, but occasionally some of them will be and they will evaporate, and the hotter the water is, the closer that average is to the boiling point, the more it'll happen. Earth's entire water cycle hinges on the fact that water doesn't need to be boiling to evaporate.
You're totally right, I don't think we're disagreeing. Water evaporates at room temperature (and pressure) but it's not the same thing as steam. Water vapour is a mixture of tiny liquid droplets with air, steam (in the sense I'm using the word) is a gas form of water and only forms above 100°C (at standard pressure, a few degrees lower if you're e.g. up a mountain).
Why are you so down voted? People should remember this from high school. If you have steam in your shower youll be in hospital haha. You get water vapour in a shower.
Now I cant take this article seriously because the author hasn't understood the difference. Maybe its anecdotal but ive taken my phone into the shower for youTube since they started being ip68
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steam
1: a vapor arising from a heated substance
It doesn't have to be actually boiling to be steam.
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Why in the world would I bring the phone in the shower?
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