Wdym? Scientists usually don't get paid to publish. The person you replied to, probably meant academic publishing as in:

1. Scientist does research and compiles manuscript, usually via public money, even in shithole countries like the US
2. Scientist submits manuscript to for profit journal
3. Journal outsources proofreading to other scientists, who do it for free
4. Manuscript is accepted or revised on scientists time and money
5. Scientist pays for publishing
6. For Profit journal either charges extra for "open" publication or charges scientist and other scientists for access, usually by agreements with the respective library
7. Profit! (On the journals part)

Where is the split of compensation? For patents there is, but for academic publishing usually not.

You are missing the point, it's not about education, but publishing. Read about Elsevier, and how Aaron Swartz died

Styrofoam and diesel are great for toppling governments. Douse the rich!

Don't actually eat anyone, cannabalism is likely to lead to prion folding diseases. Which is a terrible way to die.

Wealth cap or bust. No one should ever be able to make 1 billion. I think there should be forced divestments after 1 bil and you're barred from the stock market for 5 years. Plus☝🏻, if you use any money to build anything whether it be a building or a business, said billionaire is not allowed to earn more than a total of 1 million/yr.

The majority of people don’t like to lead. It’s simply easier and more comfortable to follow. Less conflict. Less confrontation. Less stress.

Leading requires initiative, the capacity to be confrontational, to step outside the box. It’s rather opposite of what is known as the bandwagon effect. Most people cannot do any of that without feeling extremely self conscious or anxious. Or, without being obnoxious and off-putting. You not only have to be able to function separate, you have to do it without annoying the fuck out of those around you.

Effective leadership also requires the capacity for some degree of speed. Some problems cannot wait for debate due to safety.

The bandwagon effect is a fun bit of study. What’s even better is the majority of people believe it doesn’t hold sway over them when the data shows that it absolutely does, something like 70-80%. It’s why, in part, so much money is thrown at AI and bots on social media, especially pre elections.

This appears to be a long but solid definition of it, with some easy bullet points: https://www.researchprospect.com/...

There’s also a reverse bandwagon effect, for, you know, the cool people.

There needs to be a little killing first, to set the tone. I like your ideas, but there is no way in this world or any other that the rich assholes would allow you to assemble a committee like that. They would literally carpet bomb it before allowing it.

The French Revolution was succesful. What the king & nobles did before that was much, much worse.

It just wasn't a socialist revolution. The bourgeoisie won.

It also didn't happen just like that, it took 10 years - Wikipedia calls it "a period of political and societal change". I think it's fair to say it wasn't completely unplanned.

Nobody talks about what came next.

Most of the monarchies and aristocrats in Europe fell / lost all real power / reformed themselves to avoid losing their heads?

Humanity actually successfully implemented a decentralized egalitarian socialist society without dictatorships in 1936 Spain, which bore out that Anarchist political theory is the most viable long-term solution we have to achieving freedom for all while also ensuring everyone is able to live a fulfilling life by providing free housing, food, transportation and healthcare.

We need to figure out why humans are so quick to all clump up as one submissive blob, who follows the will of whoever claims to have power.

because people like when decisions are made for them, and they don't have to think to make those decisions for themselves.

It's like you invented democracy with extra sauce 😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Rfk has peen dibs

In case anyone didn't know the answer is business as in business has the government by the balls.

Yup. Government has businesses by the balls.

But corruption exists.

Therefore the goverment only ever really pulls small businesses and normal people by the balls, while the big businesses and uber rich (money heavyweights) get to pull the government by the tongue. Sometimes even the balls as well.

Just as Supply Side Jesus intended.

State governments issue business licenses. This is how we will kill Citizen's United.

Hawaii first, Montana next.

Yes! Exact same here. Its so dumb it sounds made up. A random company comes along and just gets to sell what was once free.

Well, he tweets many times a day, many posts like this:

...Seems like a "Tech Bro" type to me. He's just engagement farming; I don't care what he says, there nothing valid about that.

In fact, I'd wager some of those posts are automated.

I think twitter also might still give blue check marks to "important" people it's just available for anyone to buy now

The messenger matters.

Would you care about anything I was saying if I was a bot?

Or a Musk/Theil bootlicker?

Especially on this topic. Nodding heads about the loss of the internet to engagement chum on Twitter is the opposite of poetic.

they can still impersonate you. the checkmark has lost its meaning when everybody has it.

They’ve already broadcast their intentions to push cloud compute for home use. These data centers train AI - but chips are improving rapidly. Amazon and others have already stated they plan to use these for cloud compute services as they become obsolete for bleeding edge AI. Microsoft has a low local resource client to cloud version of Windows they are releasing. They want all compute to be subscription based and it will definitely lack any real privacy protections as long as they can keep corporate capture of congress.

Honestly ddg has also gotten worse (as it’s bing in a condom), it’s just that Google has shit itself even harder

I started noticing ddg search with the "" operator is wonky. Also ecosia seems to have a lot of sponsored results?

Yeah that's what I meant

Library implies consent that was not there and access to the public that was not there.

Except these people are turning around and burningdown the libraries once they've read all the books.

Large amounts of data were pirated, which is apparently legal if you're training an AI. Source: Meta lawsuit

But reading and learning from a library, then writing and selling your own book based on that is NOT stealing.

It could be argued that these AIs are not actually learning but collecting and rearranging. That's still stealing in my book, especially if it happens on a massive industrial scale and by a megacorp instead of a person.

But reading and learning from a library, then writing and selling your own book based on that is NOT stealing. It’s the wrong argument.

A powerful argument if one cannot tell the difference between a person and a product.

Because they can. It really is just a cartell. Especially institutions pay a fortune for bundled access.

"- Or not, I am not a lawyer, what do I know."
(This answer was generated by 10000 liters of fresh water and the energy equivalent of a quarter nuclear power plant)

I'd love to see lawsuits force Microsoft and Nvidia and OpenAI to open source everything they had AI touch 😁

GPL absolutely should cover shit like this. Training an LLM on your code makes it definitionally a derivative work, therefore it must be licensed under GPL too (with limited fair use exceptions which shouldn't apply here). The problem is that the US government is not willing to enforce this at all, because it is owned by the same billionaires as the AI companies.

Are those people so detached that they think industry is people writing emails to each other?

I meant it more as a general thing - I should have said "we" instead.

They actually seem pretty chill about it here in New Zealand. My dad and I had one ISP notice in the early 2000s, but I've downloaded absolutely shitloads since and we haven't heard a peep.

Nowadays I tend to use Usenet anyway; the speed of even the healthiest torrents pales in comparison.

TL;DR version: Those intrusive thoughts of "obliterating everything they love" can be tempting, but there are better alternatives. "Vote blue no matter what" could change to something better, more pro-working class, something fool-proof, something even the dumbest person can understand what it's about, because right now, I don't think I'm lying when I say that more than half of the entire world doesn't even know what "red vs blue" really means. They know it's politics, but, if you asked them what they think each means... Holy Toledo.

I have lost people to both democrat and republican presidents already, but I'd still choose a democrat, don't get me wrong on that. It's just that you still deserve so, so much better than what you currently have in that party.

Long version, for the chads with big dicks:

Those intrusive thoughts feel tempting because we keep seeing the top 1% happily sacrificing millions of innocent lives for their own pleasure, which is a reason I have a profound hate for bodyguards and anyone who works in the manufacture of weapons, bombs, bullets... Everything related to destruction. Whoever is giving the metal the shape, engineering the design, or even the janitor cleaning the office of those engineers so they can feel comfortably happy while designing the next drone that will blow the heads of some poor Muslim children... I have to say that "obliterating everything they love" is still not a good choice.

I think putting them in jail permanently is enough of a message. Forgiving their children and family members that can prove to be genuinely different is also an important message. Killing them would make us look too barbaric, which puts the reputation at risk, and therefor the trust, even if it happens 200+ years later. We'd just have to be consistent and keep hardening the law. It has to be done en masse too; a massive wave around the world of people taking the power and using it to put all these corrupt assholes in the worst cells possible. No Pablo Escobar/Ghislaine Maxwell vacation jail bullshit.

I don't think we will be able to stop the angriest people from passionately assassinating some of these assholes before we do that, but I won't stop them nor argue against them either, because I have personally lost family members in Lebanon and here in Mexico to these monsters, let alone all the innocent people throughout history, everywhere. I hate it. All that potential art and talent wasted just to please one boring psychopath asshole nobody likes, but is rich enough (because he exploited and killed others to enrich themselves) to feed us or not. We don't really need to keep suffering to create good art either as many think. We have enough History and drama to create an endless amount of content that'd keep us entertained and happy.

The voting blue no matter what, I hope it's innocent deep down, but so far, I think only a small number of democrats are actually decent people, imo. The majority are under AIPAC's command, they cannot even condemn the genocide in Gaza. They don't want to stop funding Israel either, so. Instead of "voting blue no matter what," I think the message should be more keen to something for the people, not some "blind support and loyalty to the party" nonsense.

"Vote for people, not parties."

"Loyalty to the people, not the party."

"People first, parties second."

"Represent us or lose us."

"Vote for the policies and actions, not because the candidate has a D next to their name."

I don't know, anything but a 1984-esque one like "vote blue no matter who." I wish people used one that focused on Humanity, on the people, not some dick-measuring contests.

It's just my fantasy, it won't happen, but whatever. I say that because I am sure the majority of the world, and I mean this: more than 60%, easily, of the entire planet, doesn't even know what "red vs blue" even really means, honestly. Like, they know it's about politics, but if you asked them what they think they mean... Oh, brother. A lot of people genuinely believe "communism and socialism are exactly the same thing and they both mean being lazy, being dirt poor all the time, and introducing homeless people in your home. Nothing else."

I am sure a lot of them are loyal to the red or blue party just because "it's their favorite color." Fuck that shit. Use a slogan that is fool-proof. One that even the dumbest motherfucker can understand what's it's about, and it's about Class Consciousness, about the Working Class, about the People, about being paid a livable wage, being paid what you're truly worth, that people deserve to see themselves at their full potential before they die, etc. Not some party, not some oligarchs, not Chuck Schumer and his stupid glasses. I have lost people to both democrat and republican presidents already, but I'd still choose a democrat, don't get me wrong on that. It's just that you still deserve so, so much better than what you currently have in that party.

Don't be a conformist; the Jeffrey Epstein Class worked so hard the past decades to turn us into conformists who are slowly normalizing this way of living. I hope we manage to flip that shit over and remove those broken psychopath weirdos.

Indeed, the courts have shockingly given a pass to torrenting down unauthorized copies to the LLM companies, versus how they destroyed some lives of private individuals for similar behavior...

Ok. Fine. Sure.

Not sure though what this has to do with llm companies making money. Since they write their own code and llms are trained on data.... Like wikipedia.

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Reddit is a bad example because it's still readable without an account and almost uncensored outside politics. You can also still query Reddit explicitly reasonably fine by adding "Reddit" to your search in DuckDuckGo or Google.
Reddit's enshittification is in the optional buyable reactions (which make posts and comments way more visible than voting is able to), their automated moderation, and making automated moderation for sub mods harder.
Using it as a library is what didn't get enshittified.

It's presented as friendly but yeah it's actually incredibly hostile and predatory

Oh, they provide sources. At least, some of them do. It's just that the sources don't always back them up. It's going to gin up sources whether it's correct or not, because that's what it's programmed to do.

Oh yea 25 years ago search engines were amazing

It's not the same. The ability to converse about a topic is pretty dope. Compared to ring to find relevant information about a very unique case for instance.

So only profitable things have value?

Why corporate? Open source LLMs also use this data (even more so) and imo will eventually win over current market loss leaders.

If you truly believe information should be free and accessible to all then LLMs - which are just intelligent interface to our collective compressed information - are a good thing.

Yeah the sword of damocles is real here but I think a lot of capable people are under selling themselves and could easily find fit when let go. The market should grow due to new tooling so if anything senior experience is a major boon in an expanding market.

The real risk is allowing billionaires to monopolize the market and seems like people are conflating this with LLMs as a technology. It's ludites all over again.